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A94294 A discourse of the right of the Church in a Christian state: by Herbert Thorndike. Thorndike, Herbert, 1598-1672. 1649 (1649) Wing T1045; Thomason E1232_1; ESTC R203741 232,634 531

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in_o egypt_n beside_o that_o of_o alexandria_n before_o the_o time_n of_o demetrius_n beside_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v p._n 142_o 143._o stand_n more_o probable_a by_o the_o emperor_n adrian's_n epistle_n relate_v by_o vopiscus_n in_o the_o life_n of_o saturninus_n illi_fw-la qui_fw-la serapin_n colunt_fw-la christiani_n sunt_fw-la et_fw-la devoti_fw-la sunt_fw-la serapi_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la christi_fw-la episcopos_fw-la dicunt_fw-la nemo_fw-la illic_fw-la archisynagogus_fw-la judaeorum_fw-la nemo_fw-la samarites_fw-la nemo_fw-la christianorum_fw-la presbyter_n non_fw-la mathematicus_fw-la non_fw-la aruspex_fw-la non_fw-la aliptes_fw-la here_o he_o name_v bishop_n at_o alexandria_n to_o wit_n such_o as_o resort_v thither_o from_o other_o city_n of_o egypt_n and_o though_o a_o man_n will_v be_v so_o contentious_a as_o to_o stand_v in_o it_o that_o the_o name_n episcopus_fw-la may_v then_o be_v common_a to_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n both_o yet_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o 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appoint_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o gate_n that_o be_v in_o all_o thy_o city_n say_v the_o law_n deut._n xvi_o 18._o join_v together_o judge_n and_o officer_n in_o divers_a other_o place_n num._n xi_o 16._o deut._n i._n 15_o 16._o these_o officer_n the_o greek_a translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o sometime_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o vulgar_a latin_a doctores_fw-la for_o what_o reason_n i_o do_v not_o see_v that_o any_o man_n have_v declare_v by_o the_o talmud_n doctor_n they_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o seem_v to_o import_v appparitores_fw-la synagogae_fw-la which_o maimoni_n describe_v to_o be_v young_a man_n that_o have_v not_o attain_v the_o year_n and_o knowledge_n of_o doctor_n and_o the_o punishment_n of_o scourge_v he_o say_v be_v execute_v by_o these_o he_o report_v also_o a_o old_a say_n of_o their_o talmud_n doctor_n that_o the_o reason_n why_o samuel_n son_n will_v not_o ride_v circuit_n as_o their_o father_n do_v be_v because_o they_o will_v inflame_v the_o fee_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v their_o minister_n or_o apparitor_n and_o scribe_n or_o clerk_n and_o buxtorfe_n in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d report_v another_o of_o their_o say_n that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o destruction_n of_o jerusalem_n the_o wise_a be_v embase_v to_o the_o learning_n of_o apparitor_n and_o apparitor_n to_o that_o of_o clerk_n so_o then_o they_o be_v next_o under_o their_o wise_a man_n or_o doctor_n but_o above_o scribe_n or_o clerk_n by_o this_o account_n but_o see_v there_o be_v no_o more_o difference_n between_o they_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o sometime_o it_o be_v not_o consider_v maimoni_fw-la in_o the_o title_n of_o learning_n the_o law_n show_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v every_o where_o schoolmaster_n appoint_v to_o teach_v young_a child_n to_o read_v of_o the_o condition_n of_o who_o he_o write_v there_o at_o large_a cap._n iii_o these_o be_v they_o who_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a mean_v by_o doctores_fw-la as_o appear_v by_o the_o suppose_a s._n ambrose_n upon_o 1_o cor._n xii_o 25._o who_o will_v have_v those_o who_o s._n paul_n there_o call_v doctor_n to_o be_v the_o very_a same_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v the_o very_a same_o that_o the_o lxx_o mean_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o jew_n say_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o tribe_n of_o simeon_n and_o that_o so_o the_o prophecy_n of_o jacob_n be_v fulfil_v divide_v they_o in_o jacob_n and_o scatter_v they_o in_o israel_n the_o levite_n be_v disperse_v throughout_o all_o the_o tribe_n to_o take_v tithe_n at_o the_o barn_n door_n and_o the_o simeonites_n to_o teach_v to_o write_v and_o read_v s._n hierome_n tradit_fw-la heb._n in_o genesin_n jarchi_n in_o gen._n xlix_o 7._o and_o indeed_o the_o name_n by_o which_o the_o scripture_n call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o original_a of_o it_o be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o scripture_n as_o how_o shall_v any_o language_n be_v all_o find_v in_o so_o small_a a_o volume_n yet_o in_o the_o jew_n writing_n and_o also_o in_o the_o syriack_n testament_n the_o word_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v derive_v signify_v contract_n as_o coloss_n ii_o 14._o so_o that_o by_o their_o name_n they_o must_v be_v such_o as_o write_v contract_n that_o be_v clerk_n or_o notary_n therefore_o if_o the_o judge_n and_o doctor_n of_o the_o jew_n consistory_n be_v correspondent_a to_o the_o presbyter_n of_o christian_a church_n which_o by_o many_o argument_n have_v be_v declare_v then_o the_o apparitor_n and_o notary_n of_o the_o same_o must_v by_o consequence_n be_v answerable_a to_o our_o deacon_n and_o so_o epiphanius_n in_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o ebionite_n make_v the_o bishop_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n of_o the_o christian_n to_o be_v the_o same_o that_o among_o the_o jew_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v ruler_n of_o synagogue_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n for_o as_o the_o deacon_n be_v wont_a to_o minister_v a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o service_n in_o the_o church_n so_o still_o the_o service_n in_o the_o synagogue_n be_v perform_v by_o he_o who_o still_o they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o minister_n of_o the_o synagogue_n to_o this_o iii_o chapter_n i_o must_v add_v two_o consideration_n the_o one_o be_v of_o the_o scope_n of_o that_o little_a piece_n of_o the_o right_n of_o the_o people_n in_o the_o church_n which_o the_o learned_a blondell_n have_v late_o add_v to_o grotius_n his_o book_n de_fw-fr imperio_fw-la summarum_fw-la patestatum_fw-la in_o sacris_fw-la which_o be_v in_o brief_a to_o derive_v the_o right_n and_o title_n of_o lay_v elder_n from_o the_o people_n and_o from_o that_o interest_n which_o by_o the_o scripture_n it_o appear_v that_o they_o have_v from_o the_o beginning_n under_o the_o apostle_n in_o church_n matter_n whereby_o he_o have_v give_v we_o cause_n to_o cry_v aloud_o victory_n as_o quit_v the_o reason_n and_o ground_n upon_o which_o 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become_v free_a with_o his_o christianity_n but_o that_o he_o must_v not_o think_v himself_o free_a by_o his_o christianity_n and_o upon_o this_o ground_n common_a to_o all_o state_n it_o be_v verify_v that_o christian_a state_n have_v as_o much_o right_n in_o christianity_n as_o those_o state_n that_o be_v not_o christian_a have_v in_o that_o religion_n which_o they_o profess_v another_o ground_n there_o be_v peculiar_a to_o christianity_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n declare_v to_o be_v this_o that_o christianity_n be_v receive_v and_o maintain_v by_o the_o sovereign_a power_n of_o the_o gentile_n to_o who_o god_n appoint_v the_o gospel_n to_o be_v preach_v of_o which_o afterward_o that_o when_o the_o world_n be_v come_v into_o the_o church_n that_o be_v when_o state_n profess_v christianity_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v expect_v that_o person_n of_o great_a quality_n in_o the_o state_n submit_v to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n unless_o the_o coactive_a power_n of_o the_o state_n enforce_v it_o as_o it_o be_v say_v p._n 168._o depend_v upon_o that_o which_o i_o say_v afore_o that_o the_o profession_n of_o religion_n be_v common_a to_o all_o nation_n insomuch_o that_o he_o deserve_v not_o the_o benefit_n of_o civil_a society_n that_o renounce_v it_o for_o if_o the_o profession_n of_o religion_n in_o general_a be_v requisite_a for_o all_o they_o that_o will_v enjoy_v civil_a society_n with_o any_o civil_a nation_n then_o be_v the_o communion_n of_o that_o religion_n which_o the_o state_n wherein_o a_o man_n live_v profess_v a_o temporal_a privilege_n to_o all_o that_o enjoy_v it_o in_o as_o much_o as_o thereby_o they_o be_v repute_v to_o have_v that_o communion_n with_o god_n which_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o state_n must_v needs_o be_v repute_v to_o have_v because_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o state_n must_v needs_o be_v repute_v to_o be_v true_a and_o this_o reputation_n be_v so_o necessary_a in_o civil_a society_n that_o no_o man_n esteem_v it_o 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