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A76800 The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations. Blackwood, Christopher. 1644 (1644) Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842 101,204 126

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the_o cloud_n and_o sea_n and_o yet_o there_o be_v no_o water_n for_o they_o go_v through_o the_o sea_n on_o dry_a land_n therefore_o that_o baptism_n be_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o rain_n from_o from_o heaven_n as_o appear_v by_o compare_v psal_n 76.17.18_o the_o cloud_n pour_v out_o water_n the_o voice_n of_o thy_o thunder_n be_v in_o the_o heaven_n the_o lightning_n lighten_v the_o world_n etc._n etc._n with_o exod._n 14.21_o 22._o answ_n 1._o then_o the_o holy_a ghost_n will_v not_o have_v use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v never_o use_v in_o scripture_n for_o the_o sprinkle_n but_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v always_o use_v in_o scripture_n for_o sprinkle_v so_o the_o apostle_n
ancient_a father_n extant_a that_o i_o know_v of_o who_o be_v not_o spurious_a yet_o be_v it_o never_o mention_v in_o his_o genuine_a work_n though_o he_o oft_o speak_v of_o baptism_n indeed_o in_o the_o suppositious_a book_n which_o be_v call_v quaestion_n &_o responsiones_fw-la ad_fw-la orthadoxos_n it_o be_v once_o mention_v in_o these_o word_n if_o infant_n die_v have_v neither_o praise_n nor_o blame_v by_o their_o work_n what_o difference_n in_o the_o resurrection_n betwixt_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptise_v of_o some_o and_o have_v do_v nothing_o and_o those_o that_o be_v not_o baptise_a and_o likewise_o have_v do_v nothing_o to_o which_o the_o answer_n give_v be_v the_o baptise_a obtain_v the_o go_n d_o thing_n that_o come_v by_o baptism_n the_o other_o not_o moreover_o they_o be_v worthy_a of_o the_o good_a thing_n that_o come_v by_o baptism_n by_o their_o faith_n th●t_o offer_v they_o to_o baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o answer_v the_o whole_a book_n though_o it_o go_v under_o ju●tins_n name_n be_v forge_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o 16._o and_o 17._o question_n also_o 139_o 14●_n where_o he_o have_v th●●e_a word_n subsistence_n person_n trinity_n unity_n which_o s●ulptotus_n in_o ana●●_n justini_n cap._n 11._o say_v he_o be_v ignorant_a of_o in_o his_o former_a writing_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v necessitate_v long_o after_o to_o use_v these_o word_n moreover_o sculptetus_n add_v these_o word_n i_o think_v no_o man_n will_v doubt_v that_o this_o treatise_n have_v creep_v into_o the_o number_n of_o justins_n writing_n for_o qu●st_n 112._o the_o angel_n that_o speak_v to_o jacob_n and_o moses_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o create_a angel_n but_o in_o the_o disputation_n with_o tripho_n the_o jew_n which_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v his_o own_o that_o angel_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n again_o in_o the_o 82._o and_o 86._o question_n origen_n be_v cite_v for_o the_o exposition_n of_o certain_a hebrew_n name_n when_o 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deliver_v and_o speak_v of_o we_o and_o receive_v that_o they_o can_v so_o live_v they_o be_v bring_v of_o we_o where_o there_o be_v water_n and_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n pag._n 73._o editio_fw-la commelini_fw-la this_o book_n by_o all_o man_n confession_n be_v his_o own_o for_o which_o he_o suffer_v death_n also_o pag_n 76._o he_o say_v moreover_o we_o after_o this_o w●shing_a do_v bring_v the_o believer_n now_o join_v to_o we_o to_o the_o brethren_n as_o they_o be_v call_v where_o they_o be_v gather_v together_o to_o common_a prayer_n and_o supplication_n both_o for_o themselves_o and_o the_o party_n baptize_v or_o enlighten_v and_o for_o all_o other_o and_o mark_v it_o in_o this_o apology_n he_o set_v down_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n both_o for_o word_n prayer_n and_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o that_o ex_fw-la professo_fw-la this_o be_v all_o that_o i_o can_v find_v upon_o a_o diligent_a search_n for_o baptise_v infant_n in_o justine_n ma●_n so_o tha●_n it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o world_n in_o his_o time_n and_o but_o once_o name_v in_o one_o book_n which_o most_o falf●ly_o be_v attribute_v to_o he_o and_o the_o contrary_a practice_n we_o see_v in_o the_o true_a writing_n of_o justin●_n and_o this_o that_o i_o have_v speak_v i_o challenge_v any_o man_n to_o gainsaiy_v if_o he_o can_v and_o therefore_o i_o wonder_v how_o mr._n m._n can_v use_v such_o a_o confident_a assertion_n as_o he_o do_v when_o he_o say_v this_o privilege_n of_o baptise_v of_o such_o infant_n 3._o mr._n m._n pag._n 3._o the_o christian_n church_n have_v be_v in_o possession_n of_o for_o the_o space_n of_o 1500._o year_n and_o upward_o and_o for_o the_o confirmation_n hereof_o he_o bring_v a_o quota●●_n out_o of_o this_o spurious_a book_n false_o attribute_v to_o justine_n martyr_n quest_n 56._o the_o vanity_n of_o which_o book_n i_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v we_o shall_v desire_v he_o or_o any_o other_o to_o prove_v if_o he_o can_v that_o in_o any_o place_n of_o justine_n martyr_n genuine_a work_n there_o be_v so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n of_o infant_n baptism_n much_o less_o the_o thing_n i_o suppose_v he_o may_v as_o soon_o find_v a_o dolphin_n in_o the_o wood_n as_o find_v any_o such_o thing_n yea_o we_o shall_v desire_v he_o or_o any_o other_o if_o they_o can_v to_o prove_v insult_v baptism_n out_o of_o justone_n martyr_n ireniaeus_n origen_n clemens_n alexandrirus_n or_o tertullian_n which_o be_v the_o father_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o follow_a father_n we_o do_v not_o regard_v their_o authority_n in_o this_o point_n as_o be_v far_o off_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n i_o suppose_v it_o will_v trouble_v any_o man_n to_o find_v so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n much_o less_o the_o thing_n save_o that_o origen_n call_v it_o a_o tradition_n in_o rom._n 6._o his_o word_n be_v the_o church_n receive_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n to_o infant_n for_o they_o to_o who_o the_o secret_n of_o divine_a mystery_n be_v commit_v know_v that_o there_o be_v in_o all_o the_o natural_a filth_n of_o sin_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v abolish_v by_o water_n &_o the_o spirit_n whether_o this_o tradition_n of_o infant_n baptism_n wash_v away_o the_o natural_a filth_n of_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v conjoin_v in_o equality_n of_o power_n with_o those_o tradition_n the_o apostle_n mention_n 2_o thes_n 2.13_o i_o appeal_v to_o mr._n m._n 4_o mr_n m_o pag._n 4_o his_o own_o conscience_n beside_o why_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v translate_v ordinance_n 1_o cor._n 11.2_o shall_v be_v here_o translate_v tradition_n i_o see_v not_o the_o word_n be_v in_o every_o tittle_n the_o same_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v translate_v ordinance_n here_o as_o well_o as_o there_o such_o ordinance_n of_o the_o word_n as_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o preach_v as_o well_o as_o his_o writing_n have_v set_v they_o in_o of_o these_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hold_v these_o ordinance_n with_o all_o your_o power_n these_o kind_n of_o reason_v do_v not_o edify_v but_o make_v way_n for_o the_o popish_a delusion_n of_o write_a and_o unwritten_a word_n and_o whereas_o m._n m._n add_v pag._n 4._o that_o origen_n call_v it_o a_o tradition_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n i_o answer_v many_o thing_n be_v false_o attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n as_o the_o apostle_n creed_n and_o that_o book_n call_v canon_n apostolorum_fw-la neither_o of_o which_o luke_n mention_n in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n no_o more_o than_o he_o do_v this_o tradition_n of_o baptise_v infant_n isidore_v as_o gratian_n cite_v he_o dist_n 16._o say_v the_o canon_n be_v make_v by_o heretic_n and_o put_v out_o under_o the_o apostle_n name_n and_o indeed_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o they_o quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n o_o sia●d●r_n say_v l._n 3._o c._n 3._o it_o be_v certain_a these_o canon_n be_v not_o compose_v by_o christ_n apostle_n therefore_o we_o must_v not_o lay_v any_o great_a weight_n upon_o origen_n call_v infant_n baptism_n a_o tradition_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n so_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n we_o be_v dip_v be_v enlighten_v we_o be_v enlighten_v be_v adopt_v for_o son_n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ●c_z peda●o●_n l●b_v 1._o ●ap_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n we_o be_v adopt_v be_v make_v perfect_a be_v perfect_a we_o be_v make_v immortal_a and_o then_o he_o add_v this_o work_n mean_v baptism_n be_v call_v diversty_a viz._n 1._o a_o wash_a whereby_o we_o wipe_v away_o our_o sin_n 2._o grace_n whereby_o the_o punishment_n due_a to_o our_o sin_n be_v forgive_v
the_o gentile_n now_o but_o that_o which_o be_v covenant_v before_o the_o world_n be_v and_o agree_v betwixt_o the_o trinity_n titus_n 1.2_o that_o eternal_a life_n shall_v be_v by_o believe_v in_o christ_n and_o this_o covenant_n never_o belong_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o jewish_a nation_n but_o to_o a_o remnant_n therein_o see_v rom._n 9.6.7.8_o so_o vers_n 27._o 3_o this_o insition_n in_o the_o root_n abraham_n in_o the_o jew_n stead_n by_o a_o visible_a constitution_n be_v mere_o imaginary_a for_o abraham_n stand_v as_o a_o root_n two_o way_n first_o visible_o to_o the_o jew_n that_o descend_v of_o he_o second_o invisible_o to_o the_o believer_n among_o jew_n and_o gentile_n see_v rom._n 4.11.17_o it_o be_v by_o virtue_n of_o this_o latter_a insition_n that_o not_o the_o gentile_n but_o the_o believer_n among_o the_o gentile_n be_v graft_v in_o 2._o object_n the_o grand_a birth_n privilege_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v to_o be_v a_o holy_a nation_n but_o this_o honour_n to_o be_v a_o 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