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A69095 The third part of the Defence of the Reformed Catholike against Doct. Bishops Second part of the Reformation of a Catholike, as the same was first guilefully published vnder that name, conteining only a large and most malicious preface to the reader, and an answer to M. Perkins his aduertisement to Romane Catholicks, &c. Whereunto is added an aduertisement for the time concerning the said Doct. Bishops reproofe, lately published against a little piece of the answer to his epistle to the King, with an answer to some few exceptions taken against the same, by M. T. Higgons latley become a proselyte of the Church of Rome. By R. Abbot Doctor of Diuinitie.; Defence of the Reformed Catholicke of M. W. Perkins. Part 3 Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1609 (1609) STC 50.5; ESTC S100538 452,861 494

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he_o have_v no_o hope_n to_o prevail_v with_o his_o majesty_n and_o yet_o i_o say_v that_o in_o his_o book_n he_o think_v himself_o to_o have_v perform_v some_o great_a exploit_n that_o be_v say_v he_o to_o prevail_v marvelous_a much_o with_o his_o majesty_n but_o his_o commentary_n fit_v not_o my_o text_n because_o his_o great_a exploit_n there_o intend_v be_v not_o in_o prevail_a with_o his_o majesty_n but_o as_o i_o there_o declare_v in_o write_v a_o famous_a and_o worthy_a work_n the_o marrow_n and_o pith_n of_o many_o large_a volume_n contract_v and_o draw_v into_o a_o narrow_a room_n another_o contradiction_n he_o fanci_v in_o that_o i_o etc._n i_o ibid._n pag_n 267._o 268._o etc._n etc._n say_v that_o he_o reveal_v a_o counsel_n and_o secret_a of_o his_o own_o and_o his_o fellow_n in_o say_v god_n know_v what_o that_o forcible_a weapon_n of_o necessity_n will_v drive_v man_n unto_o at_o length_n and_o yet_o i_o bid_v he_o be_v of_o good_a cheer_n and_o tell_v his_o fellow_n 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doct._n bishop_n i_o have_v not_o deal_v sincere_o and_o upright_o in_o the_o report_n and_o allegation_n of_o some_o thing_n the_o matter_n be_v but_o few_o and_o those_o such_o as_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o stand_v long_o upon_o any_o of_o they_o the_o matter_n that_o chief_o trouble_v his_o head_n &_o give_v he_o occasion_n of_o this_o apostasy_n be_v as_o he_o pretend_v our_o denial_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o he_o now_o upon_o the_o sudden_a have_v learned_a to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o among_o other_o reason_n that_o have_v induce_v he_o so_o to_o conceive_v of_o it_o one_o be_v a_o proposition_n deliver_v by_o doct._n field_n that_o 8._o that_o first_o motive_n of_o t.h._n book_n 1_o part_n 1_o ch_z 2._o §_o 2._o num_fw-la 8._o whatsoever_o all_o or_o the_o most_o famous_a in_o all_o age_n or_o at_o least_o in_o diverse_a age_n have_v constant_o deliver_v as_o receive_v from_o they_o that_o go_v before_o they_o no_o 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