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A00294 A booke intituled, The English Protestants recantation, in mattersof religion wherein is demonstratiuely proued, by the writings of the principall, and best learned English Protestant bishops, and doctors, and rules of their religion, published allowed, or subscribed vnto, bythem, since the comminge of our King Iames into England, that not onely all generall grownds of diuinitie, are against the[m], but in euery particular cheife question, betweene Catholicks & them, they are in errour, by their owne iudgments : diuided accordingly, into two parts, whereof the first entreateth of those generall grounds, the other of such particular controuersies, whereby will also manifestely appeare the vanitie of D. Morton Protest. Bishop of Chester his boke called Appeale, or, Ansuueare to the Catholicke authour of thebooke entituled, The Protestants apologie. Broughton, Richard. 1617 (1617) STC 10414; ESTC S2109 209,404 418

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133._o pag._n 134._o of_o chastity_n the_o father_n be_v not_o fit_a judge_n to_o determine_v either_o of_o priest_n marriage_n or_o vawe_n of_o chastity_n and_o for_o this_o doctrine_n thus_o he_o write_v of_o s._n ambrose_n that_o man_n have_v the_o apostatical_a dragon_n the_o devil_n dwell_v in_o he_o and_o so_o he_o will_v send_v 135._o midd._n pag._n 135._o ambrose_n away_o with_o his_o quietus_n est_fw-la chrisostome_n be_v so_o hot_a in_o his_o amplification_n that_o he_o forgett_v himself_o 137._o pag._n 137._o chrisostome_n in_o his_o vehemency_n go_v beyond_o 138._o pag._n 138._o measure_n in_o reprehendinge_v and_o the_o christian_n of_o his_o time_n in_o their_o lightness_n go_v beyond_o measure_n in_o vowinge_v the_o canon_n which_o epiphanius_n cit_v against_o priest_n marriage_n or_o marry_v man_n to_o be_v make_v priest_n 161._o middleton_n sup_v pag._n 141._o pag._n 143._o pag._n 144._o pag._n 156._o pag._n 161._o be_v apocryphal_a he_o be_v two_o partial_a affect_v in_o this_o matter_n the_o ancient_a father_n do_v err_v augustine_n be_v a_o most_o subtle_a disputer_n y●t_v a_o quick_a wi●●_n soon_o fall_v into_o contradiction_n neither_o be_v hilary_n howsoever_o the_o romish_a church_n have_v make_v he_o a_o saint_n over_o hasty_o to_o be_v receive_v irenaeus_n hilary_n and_o epiphanius_n for_o teach_v free_a will_n be_v pelagian_n 180._o pag._n 179._o pag._n 180._o heretic_n we_o have_v hear_v before_o what_o great_a respect_n in_o word_n the_o protestant_a bishop_n of_o winchester_n give_v to_o the_o ancient_a father_n yet_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n his_o own_o protestant_a brethren_n charge_v he_o with_o the_o contrary_a in_o these_o word_n all_o this_o 84._o bilsons_n sur●●_n pag._n 84._o great_a shew●_n of_o cleave_v to_o the_o father_n judgement_n be_v but_o colour_v in_o you_o for_o in_o other_o point_n again_o we_o see_v when_o they_o speak_v not_o to_o your_o like_n the_o case_n be_v alter_v you_o forsake_v the_o ancient_a and_o 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