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B09923 An epistle concerning baptism. [occai]sionally written upon the sight [of] two treatises published by Thomas James father of a Presbyterian congre[ga]tion at Ashford in Kent : who [ha]th reflected upon the baptized [C]hristians / [by] [W]illiam Russell. Russel, William. 1696 (1696) Wing R2357B; ESTC R187283 23,383 34

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archbishop_n of_o canterhury_n dr._n john_n tillotson_n ●●●h_o in_o his_o sermon_n upon_o 2_o tim._n 2.19_o ancient_o those_o ●ho_n be_v baptize_v put_v off_o their_o garment_n which_o signify_v the_o put_v off_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n and_o be_v immerse_v and_o bury_v in_o the_o water_n to_o represent_v the_o death_n of_o sin_n and_o then_o do_v rise_v up_o again_o out_o of_o the_o water_n to_o signify_v their_o entrance_n upon_o a_o new_a life_n and_o to_o these_o custom_n the_o apostle_n allude_v rom._n 6.4_o also_o dr._n fowler_n the_o present_a bishop_n of_o gloucester_n in_o his_o ●ook_n of_o the_o scope_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n interpret_v this_o say_n of_o the_o great_a apostle_n rom._n 6.4_o as_o follow_v christian_n be_v plunge_v into_o the_o water_n in_o baptism_n signify_v their_o undertake_n and_o oblige_v themselves_o in_o a_o spiritual_a sense_n to_o die_v and_o be_v bury_v with_o jesus_n christ_n which_o death_n and_o burial_n consist_v in_o a_o utter_a 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