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A43790 Dissertation concerning the antiquity of churches wherein is shewn, that the Christians in the two first centuries, had no such publick separate places for worship, as the papists generally, and some Protestants also presume, and plead for. Hill, Joseph, 1625-1707. 1698 (1698) Wing H1999; ESTC R19760 56,800 78

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