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A15829 Morbus et antidotus = the disease vvith the antidote Or A declaration of Henry Yaxlee of Bouthorpe in the countie of Norfolke Esquire, wherein he sheweth hovv he was a papist, and how by Gods grace he is now lately converted. Published by authoritie. Yaxlee, Henry. 1630 (1630) STC 26090; ESTC S120544 21,463 45

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Hee that is an honest man by scruple and a religious bridle take heede of him and account of him as hee is and hee hath religion without honestie I will not say hee is more wicked but farre more dangerous than hee that hath neither the one nor the other Who so killeth you will thinke that hee doth an acceptable service unto God Not because religion teacheth or any way favoureth wickednesse as some very foolishly and maliciously from this place doe object for the most absurd and falsest religion doth it not but the reason is that having no taste nor image nor conceit of honesty but by imitation and for the service of religion and thinking that to be an honest man is no other thing than to be carefull to advance religion They beleeve all things whatsoever be it treason treachery sedition rebellion or any other offence to bee not onely lawfull and sufferable being coloured with zeale and the care of religion but also commendable meritorious and worthy canonization if it seeme for the progresse and advancement of religion and the overthrow of their adversaries Thus you may see what conceit that learned man had of yeelding to men that absolute obedience which is due to God alone So that he was farre from the doctrine of the Iesuites who in their 13 rule do teach that if the Superiour say that white is black we must beleeve it and obey And a Iesuite once avowed to my face before sufficient witnesse that this rule is orthodoxe Hee that will see more concerning this point let him reade De la Mar. against the Iesuites his open pleading in Parliament of Paris against Monthalon their chosen Advocate He that would beholde how the particular Church of Rome hath beene led by particular factions to forsake the universall Catholicke faith let him reade George Carleton since Bishop of Chichester his booke of Iurisdiction Regall Papall Episcopall If any man reade these and see not the universall faith there brought to particular fancie it must bee crassa ignorantia if hee have will to please God and capacity for to understand But the greatest motives yet to perswade me that Rome hath corrupted the Catholique faith are two The first is for that all the most religious the most learned yea the very Canonized Saints of Rome have in all latter ages cryed out of the corruptions in the Church of Rome as you may finde in a booke published both in Latine and in English by IAMES MAXVVELL a Researcher of Antiquities which no Romish Papist ever contradicting I presume that it cannot bee excepted against by the later yeares See what the Priests haue written against the Iesuites He that hath not meanes to come by the bookes themselues may reade the Collections made by Tho. Iames which I haue found truely cited out of the said books of the Priests The Collections of Tho. Iames printed at Oxford were sold by Iohn Barnes neere Holborne Conduite The second motiue is that within this later hundred yeeres the Church of Rome hath vsurped authority to expurge reprint alter or change what they haue thought good out of both ancient and late Writers that speake against them as may appeare by their Indices Expurgatorij concerning which I referre you to D. Iames his Collections printed 1625. But concerning the credit of the Canonized Saints and others cited by Maxwell it is necessary you should heare what the greatest and learnedst Doctors of Rome haue thought of them Thus may you reade in Trithem Abbas in his booke of illustrious men That Pope Eugenius the third with the consent of 18 Cardinals and a great number of Bishops assembled in the Councell of Treiur And also Pope Boniface the ninth did Canonize diners of the Saints that spake against the corruptions of Rome Turrecremata Bellarmine and Baronius with the most famous learned men of Rome haue all highly commended the said Saints that thus cryed out of Rome and called out loud for reformation in their dayes The like was done by the good French Cardinall Peter de Aliaco in his booke of Reformation of the Church in his time presented to the Councell of Constance And the Councels both of Constance and Basil did vna voce disallow the Popes vsurpation in challenging himselfe to be aboue a generall Councell insomuch that the said Councell deliuered it as a deposite of the Church by vnanimous consent in forme of a Decree that it ought not to be so In these words The Pope tenetur obedire ought or is bound to obey the Councell etiam in fide moribus euen in matter of FAITH and manners Yea where was the Popes authority aboue a generall Councel when all Appeales to parts beyond the Seas were prohibited by the African Councell They are not then the late Protestants alone that haue called for Reformation of the Romish Church but euen also these ancient The late famous Sir Thomas Moore holden one of the lights of the Roman Church and defender thereof in his time seemeth to scorne that any man should beleeue that he was so farre corrupted in the Faith as to beleeue the Pope to be aboue a generall Councell Dial. l. 1. c. 26. His words are Neuer did I beleeue the Pope to bee aboue a generall Councell Notwithstanding the Papalins contrary to the Catholicke faith haue accounted the French Church to bee a schismaticall Church for holding the Vniuersall or generall Councell to be aboue the Pope as appeareth at large in the aforesaid pleadings of De la Martilire against the Iesuites Heare now what the Seminarie Priests speake against the faction of the Iesuites that hath swayed and ouer-ruled Rome at and since the Councell of Trent Watson Quodl pag. 82. doubteth that Antichrist may be already come for that the Iesuites be the fore-runners of Antichrist though it appeareth that Saint Bernard thought he was come before when as he saith Ep. 127. that Antichrist then sate in S. Peters chaire If then the godliest and learnedst of the Church of Rome haue in all Ages cryed out of the corruptions both of the doctrine and manners in the Church of Rome as you may see in the books aforesaid then we may say there haue neuer wanted Professors and Protestants in all Ages defending that Catholicke Roman Faith which Paul commended to the Romans resisting the tyranous vsurped innouated Doctrine of the Church or Court of Rome as may bee further seene in that from time to time euen generall Councels as well as Prouinciall haue refisted the innouations of Rome The African Councell and others of that time resisted Appeales to the Pope The later Councels of Constance and Basil haue concluded that the Pope is not aboue a Generall Councell As then Saint Paul saith that God hath set in the Church Apostles Prophets Euangelists Teachers for the perfecting of the Faith vntill all come to the vnity of the Faith Eph. 4.11 12 13. See Master Bernards booke entituled looke beyond Luther And
Catholicke no Papist can be so impudent as to deny if hee will pull off the Popes spectacles clouded with the mist of the Iesuites thirteenth rule For as I shewed before the Protestants teach no doctrine in the affirmatiue but what the Papists hold at this day viz. the Apostles Creede and that according to the ancient Catholicke interpretation of the Nicen and Athanasian Creeds and the first foure generall Councels They deny indeed the Popish addition of 12 other articles made by Pope Pius quartus because the Papists cannot proue any one of them Catholicke and Apostolicke And because the Apostle said If wee Cal. 1.8 or an Angell from heauen teach otherwise let him be accursed Saint Augustine saith of the Apostles Creed He that beleeueth more beleeueth too much and he that beleeueth lesse beleeueth too little The famous learned Friar Padro Paulo of Venice in his History of the Councell of Trent which confirmed that Creed of Pius quartus discouereth how that Counsell was ouer-ruled by the faction of the Iesuites and that it was there a common by-word euen among the Papists themselues that that Councell was guided by the holy Ghost which came euery weeke from Rome in a Cloakebagge If we may not beleeue an Angell of light teaching otherwise then the Apostles Creed then blame not the Protestants protesting against the Papists late additions and corruptions but rather beleeue and follow them because they teach nothing but that which the Papists themselues cannot deny to bee the Catholicke faith And deny such a Councell such a Creed so new and so branded by the Papists owne best and most learned Priests Mine old acquaintance propoundeth to me yet another question viz. How good Christians could conuerse and communicate with such a Church so corrupted before Luther This is lately well answered by the Bishop of Exeter in his booke entituled The old Religion and well prosecuted by others who make it plaine that one may communicate as they did with the Papists as wee may communicate with the Diuell when he said Thou art Christ the Sonne of the euerliuing God Not because the Diuell spake it but because it is Gods truth and consequently ours So we may communicate in the truth with any in errour with none For example Some Priests were as vehemently earnest and zealous denyers of Romes corrupted doctrine before Luthers time as Master Burton and others now And many then resisted the Roman errors euen to death as the Wiclifians and other learned and religious Priests as the Histories of the seuerall times and ages doe testifie Others more cooley and aduisedly sought the Reformation as Erasmus Cassaender Petrus de Aliaco and others who communicated with Rome in her truthes and scorned her errours as appeareth by their bookes written to men and to Councels to reforme the Church euen so long before Luthers dayes as the Councell of Constance It may be obiected why then should the Reformers now protest a separation more then the said Reformers did before Luther This is sufficiently answered in the dispute between Mr Burton and his Antagonists where Master Burton though accounted an ouer-zealous Separatist from the Church of Rome confesseth that they were not bound then and yet are bound now since the Councell of Trent to separate Because that since by the Councell of Trent men are sub anathemate bound to beleeue as well the errours as the truthes of the Church of Rome and as well the new Creed of Pius quartus as the ancient Creed of the Apostles Before the Councell of Trent publication of these new Articles men would ordinarily say when this new teaching was discouered Let them pipe what they will wee will dance what wee list Meaning that they thought themselues safe if they beleeued the old Creed and left the new Romish And I say further in the words of a learned Diuine In his Treatise of the Catholicke Faith that though we could then communicate with such a Church without euident danger of damnation as they did then yet in as much as we cannot communicate with it now vpon any better termes then legall seruants or bondslaues do with their Masters we are bound in conscience and religious discretion when lawfull occasion is offered as now it is to vse our liberty to seeke our freedome rather then to liue in bondage according to the rule of the Apostle giuen to seruants 1 Cor. 7.20 21. c. Let euery man abide in the same Calling wherein he is called Art thou called being a seruant care not for it But if thou maist be made free vse it rather for he that is called in the Lord being a seruant is the Lords freeman Likewise also he that is called being free it Christs seruant Yee are bought with a price be yee not the seruants of men that is yeeld not that absolute obedience to men as the Iesuites teach which is due onely to God Padr Paul Defence of the State of Venice That obedience as the learned Venetian saith which God commands vs to performe to our Ecclesiasticall superiors is not a foolish or ridiculous subiection nor is the power of the Prelate an arbitrary iudgement but both the one and the other must be ruled by the Word of God according to the place Deut. 17. before cited Absolute obedience is due onely to God and whosoeuer supposeth any humane will to be infallible vttereth great blasphemy in ascribing that to the creature which is due onely to the Creator I once asked a learned Romish Priest within this seuen yeeres whether praying to Saints were a matter of Faith or not He answered that wee are not bound to pray to Saints So shall you finde many Romish Catholickes before Luthers dayes Respons ad apologiam Card. Bell. p. 9. and after the Councell of Lateran who would say at the Eleuation Adoro te si tu es Christus i.e. If thou be Christ I doe adore or worship thee So farre were the wiser sort of the Romish Catholickes then from beleeuing that Councels definition Thus you see how and why men did communicate without a separation then and why they may not now Likewise the Priest who answered me about praying to Saints told me that many things in Rome are taught inter piècredenda things to bee religiously beleeued As the Popes power to depose Princes which you see is denyed by Priests that daily say Masse to this day as well learned French as English who call it Nonam Catholicam fidem Iesuitarum The Iesuites new Catholicke Faith So that this late vp-sprung error in the Church of Rome wants not men visible in the same Church to teach truth and correct error as in all former ages some alwayes haue done So powerfull is God to defend his Church from errors euen by those that are members of that corrupt part of the Church according to that saying that there should be some Doctors some Pastors to teach the truth hee could haue