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himself_o with_o a_o equal_a poise_v evenness_n parem_fw-la as_o some_o read_n a_o like_a patrem_fw-la as_o other_o read_v a_o father_n to_o all_o for_o the_o attain_n celestial_a grace_n and_o a_o few_o line_n after_o he_o have_v these_o word_n if_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o have_v more_o greivous_o sin_v against_o god_n when_o afterward_o they_o have_v believe_v and_o so_o none_o of_o they_o be_v keep_v back_o from_o baptism_n and_o grace_n how_o much_o rather_o ought_v not_o a_o infant_n to_o be_v prohibit_v and_o keep_v from_o baptism_n who_o be_v late_o bear_v have_v not_o sin_v at_o all_o but_o as_o bear_v of_o adam_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n he_o contract_v the_o contagion_n of_o ancient_a death_n in_o his_o first_o nativity_n and_o therefore_o my_o dear_a brother_n this_o be_v our_o judgement_n in_o the_o council_n that_o from_o baptism_n and_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n who_o be_v merciful_a and_o bountiful_a and_o pitiful_a to_o all_o no_o 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epist_n pelag._n c._n 8._o and_o say_v vossius_fw-la the_o judgement_n here_o give_v in_o about_o infant_n baptism_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o be_v esteem_v in_o that_o it_o be_v the_o decree_n of_o so_o famous_a a_o council_n and_o that_o the_o adversary_n dare_v not_o deny_v it_o but_o only_o doubt_v whether_o baptism_n shall_v be_v give_v the_o eight_o day_n and_o now_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o add_v our_o observation_n namely_o that_o the_o learned_a ancient_n do_v look_v to_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n who_o seal_n be_v circumcision_n as_o to_o a_o ground_n of_o infant_n baptism_n as_o appear_v by_o fidus_n his_o argument_n from_o circumcision_n only_o he_o look_v then_o too_o much_o at_o the_o circumstance_n of_o such_o a_o time_n of_o childhood_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n now_o do_v at_o such_o a_o time_n of_o ripe_a year_n so_o that_o it_o appear_v by_o this_o and_o the_o argument_n of_o cyprian_a and_o of_o that_o council_n according_a to_o their_o light_n 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all_o rather_o judge_v that_o the_o mercy_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o none_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o man_n by_o the_o answer_n of_o augustine_n to_o bonifacius_n tom._n 2._o epist_n 23._o inquire_v concern_v the_o truth_n of_o surety_n in_o affirm_v the_o unknown_a faith_n of_o little_a one_o and_o promise_v for_o they_o it_o will_v appear_v to_o the_o reader_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o any_o little_a one_o offer_v to_o baptism_n be_v defend_v by_o he_o although_o they_o be_v not_o bring_v that_o they_o may_v be_v regenerate_v to_o eternal_a life_n by_o spiritual_a grace_n but_o because_o they_o think_v by_o this_o remedy_n i_o use_v the_o word_n of_o augustine_n to_o retain_v or_o receive_v temporal_a health_n john_n gerhard_n loc._n theolog._n tom._n 4._o de_fw-fr baptis_n cap._n 7._o sect._n 4._o defend_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_n baptise_v the_o child_n of_o unbeliever_n and_o the_o word_n of_o mr_n samuel_n rutherford_n scot_n in_o his_o book_n late_o put_v forth_o in_o the_o english_a tongue_n entitle_v a_o peaceable_a and_o temperate_a plea_n c._n 12._o arg_n 7._o seem_v to_o i_o to_o propend_v too_o much_o to_o this_o opinion_n the_o word_n be_v these_o if_o then_o the_o jew_n in_o paul_n time_n be_v holy_a by_o covenant_n howbeit_o for_o the_o present_a the_o son_n be_v branch_n break_v off_o for_o unbelief_n much_o more_o see_v god_n have_v choose_v the_o race_n and_o nation_n of_o the_o gentile_n and_o be_v become_v a_o god_n to_o we_o and_o to_o our_o seed_n the_o seed_n must_v be_v holy_a with_o holiness_n of_o the_o choose_a nation_n and_o holiness_n external_a of_o the_o covenant_n notwithstanding_o the_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v as_o wicked_a as_o the_o jew_n who_o slay_v the_o lord_n of_o glory_n and_o the_o grave_a confutation_n of_o brownist_n by_o rathband_n part._n 3._o page_n 50._o four_o child_n may_v be_v lawful_o admit_v to_o baptism_n though_o both_o their_o parent_n be_v profane_a if_o those_o 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will_v the_o argument_n be_v of_o force_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o supper_n mat._n 26.26_o 27._o therefore_o only_a believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n if_o any_o reply_n but_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 10._o and_o 11._o have_v declare_v that_o the_o institution_n be_v exclusive_a the_o fame_n may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n from_o the_o follow_a argument_n to_o this_o second_o argument_n of_o mr_n t._n out_o of_o mat._n 28.19_o for_o the_o affirmative_a animadver_n animadver_n that_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n only_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v the_o other_o be_v only_o negative_a to_o put_v off_o argument_n for_o child_n baptism_n i_o say_v that_o i_o very_o expect_v mr_n t._n will_v not_o have_v urge_v it_o so_o curted_o careless_o or_o so_o scatter_o curt_o for_o he_o speak_v so_o abrupt_o touch_v the_o business_n of_o bishop_n fidus_n p._n 25._o that_o i_o can_v hardly_o divine_a what_o his_o meaning_n be_v i_o conjecture_v this_o answer_n will_v serve_v 1._o that_o god_n himself_o put_v the_o cause_n and_o make_v the_o premise_n wide_a than_o the_o effect_n or_o conclusion_n 2_o pet._n 3.9_o 1_o tim._n 2.4_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o warrant_v we_o to_o apply_v comfort_n or_o seal_n to_o all_o 2._o that_o cyprian_n in_o all_o likelihood_n speak_v to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n that_o as_o circumcision_n be_v not_o deny_v to_o any_o child_n of_o jewish_a parent_n that_o be_v member_n of_o that_o church_n so_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o any_o so_o bear_v of_o man_n that_o be_v be_v the_o child_n of_o parent_n repute_v true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n careless_o for_o first_o he_o say_v p._n 24._o john_n 4.2_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o jesus_n make_v more_o disciple_n then_o that_o he_o baptize_v first_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o make_v disciple_n then_o baptize_v so_o mr_n t._n now_o we_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o here_o be_v a_o gross_a falsehood_n for_o that_o text_n john_n 4.2_o say_v express_o jesus_n baptize_v none_o at_o all_o second_o mr._n t._n say_v p._n 24._o the_o ordinary_n rule_n be_v make_v disciple_n that_o be_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n make_v disciple_n as_o appear_v mark_n 16.15_o and_o baptise_v they_o to_o wit_n who_o you_o have_v make_v disciple_n so_o mr_n t._n here_o yet_o in_o another_o place_n of_o his_o exercitation_n mr._n t._n do_v not_o forget_v but_o confess_v that_o mar._n 16.15_o be_v not_o make_v disciple_n but_o only_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o so_o mark_n make_v not_o more_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n will_v have_v it_o but_o only_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preach_v the_o gospel_n scatter_o not_o only_a flote_a so_o much_o paper_n with_o the_o ink_n of_o syllogism_n under_o syllogism_n and_o argument_n under_o syllogism_n as_o if_o mat._n 28.19_o do_v not_o indeed_o in_o any_o show_n serve_v his_o turn_n without_o much_o lift_n but_o also_o in_o scatter_v such_o speech_n to_o the_o great_a disgrace_n of_o anabaptism_n for_o mr_n t._n say_v p._n 25._o that_o augustine_n be_v wont_a to_o take_v out_o his_o proof_n for_o in-infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o disputation_n against_o the_o pelagian_o from_o cyprian_n 59_o epistle_n to_o fidus._n so_o that_o by_o this_o mr_n t._n confess_v that_o the_o pelagian_o of_o old_a be_v the_o man_n that_o deny_v infant-baptisme_n which_o bring_v to_o mind_v that_o great_a james_n arminius_n be_v a_o anabaptist_n who_o have_v that_o and_o other_o dangerous_a principle_n from_o that_o unsound_a castalio_n 137_o mr_n g._n philip_n his_o reply_n and_o to_o t._n lamb._n p._n 137_o and_o that_o of_o master_n george_n fillip_v of_o water_n town_n in_o new-england_n that_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o oppose_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n be_v one_o auxentius_n a_o arrian_n with_o his_o adherent_n that_o deny_v the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n who_o die_v about_o 380_o year_n after_o christ_n as_o mr_n philpot_n the_o martyr_n of_o jesus_n note_v in_o a_o epistle_n of_o he_o write_v out_o of_o prison_n to_o a_o fellow_n prisoner_n of_o he_o about_o the_o point_n so_o mr_n fox_n relate_v in_o his_o book_n of_o martyr_n ad_fw-la ann._n 1555._o bullinger_n affirm_v the_o same_o tom._n 3._o serm._n 8._o decad._n quint._n after_o he_o the_o pelagian_o and_o donatist_n oppose_v it_o against_o who_o augustine_n beside_o other_o write_v and_o defend_v it_o the_o pelagian_o deny_v it_o upon_o this_o ground_n that_o infant_n have_v no_o original_a sin_n and_o in_o bernard_n time_n one_o peter_n abilaird_n among_o many_o other_o gross_a opinion_n wherein_o he_o say_v he_o be_v magis_fw-la arrius_n quam_fw-la arrius_n rather_o more_o than_o arrius_n then_o bare_a arrius_n hold_v this_o also_o that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v ep._n 190._o so_o mr_n philip_n but_o to_o come_v to_o mr_n t._n his_o argument_n out_o of_o mat._n 28.19_o the_o sum_n of_o it_o be_v this_o 15._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 15._o that_o christ_n institution_n be_v that_o those_o only_a shall_v be_v baptize_v that_o be_v make_v disciple_n mat._n 28.19_o but_o believer_n infant_n be_v not_o disciple_n ergo._n to_o the_o place_n of_o mat._n 28.19_o that_o be_v animadver_n animadver_n the_o proof_n of_o the_o major_n we_o have_v answer_v somewhat_o afore_o chap._n 1._o of_o our_o animadvers_fw-la p._n 7._o which_o we_o entreat_v the_o patient_a reader_n to_o ponder_v over_o again_o more_o we_o have_v answer_v but_o now_o by_o compare_v mark_v 16.15_o who_o render_v it_o bare_o preach_v the_o gospel_n which_o the_o reader_n can_v but_o esteem_v of_o more_o weight_n than_o all_o the_o interpretation_n not_o only_o of_o all_o anabaptist_n but_o of_o all_o man_n we_o add_v now_o
in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v with_o thy_o whole_a heart_n thou_o may_v be_v baptize_v where_o the_o apostle_n imply_v in_o his_o speech_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o defect_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o impediment_n of_o baptism_n we_o answer_v mr._n t._n afore_o confess_v p._n 24._o infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v if_o therefore_o he_o mean_v the_o defect_n of_o manifestation_n of_o faith_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n for_o there_o it_o be_v know_v that_o they_o be_v worse_o than_o infant_n so_o be_v it_o in_o circumcision_n if_o ishmael_n be_v a_o know_a scoffer_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o so_o his_o child_n be_v not_o circumcise_v unless_o perhaps_o after_o at_o year_n they_o give_v good_a testimony_n of_o their_o due_a subjection_n to_o the_o law_n so_o that_o to_o the_o whole_a argumentation_n we_o say_v that_o here_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o first_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o parent_n with_o confession_n and_o profession_n by_o many_o example_n and_o intimation_n but_o not_o a_o rule_n set_v down_o that_o thus_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o succession_n of_o believer_n child_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o thing_n more_o of_o this_o major_a proposition_n and_o the_o proof_n only_o wonder_v that_o among_o the_o crowd_n of_o scripture_n mr._n t._n quote_v he_o will_v thrust_v in_o that_o of_o act._n 19.5_o for_o baptism_n of_o water_n which_o be_v only_o a_o confer_v of_o the_o miraculary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o place_n can_v evince_v but_o mr._n t._n object_n this_o for_o a_o confirmation_n of_o his_o argument_n that_o if_o it_o be_v right_o argue_v from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n because_o self-examination_n be_v pre-required_n by_o like_a reason_n we_o may_v say_v baptism_n be_v not_o yield_v to_o infant_n because_o repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v pre-required_n act._n 2.38_o act._n 8.37_o and_o that_o of_o those_o that_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v beside_o what_o we_o say_v afore_o we_o answer_v to_o this_o argument_n great_a in_o show_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n between_o those_o place_n for_o baptism_n and_o that_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o 1._o that_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n speak_v of_o every_o communicant_a viritim_fw-la as_o count_v one_o after_o another_o let_v the_o party_n whosoever_o it_o be_v enter_v into_o self-examination_n before_o eat_v but_o that_o act._n 2.38_o speak_v in_o the_o gub_n or_o general_a to_o the_o parent_n and_o that_o act._n 8.37_o be_v speak_v to_o one_o only_a man_n and_o in_o that_o phrase_n that_o can_v be_v find_v elsewhere_o on_o that_o occasion_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o intimation_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o child_n admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o in_o that_o act._n 2._o present_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n v._o 39_o there_o be_v a_o intimation_n of_o their_o infant_n admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o before_o we_o have_v evince_v that_o clause_n of_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o the_o belong_v of_o the_o promise_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n in_o this_o argument_n for_o 1_o the_o parent_n by_o put_v to_o death_n christ_n have_v make_v themselves_o in_o wickedness_n worse_o than_o gentile_n 2_o that_o confession_n and_o profession_n be_v express_o call_v for_o only_o from_o they_o that_o be_v so_o apparent_o wicked_a 3_o that_o if_o they_o do_v come_v in_o by_o repentance_n the_o promise_n say_v the_o apostle_n present_o run_v to_o their_o child_n chap._n xiii_o the_o four_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n be_v take_v from_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n apostle_n exercit._fw-la sect._n 17._o the_o 4._o argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o practice_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n that_o tenet_n and_o practice_n be_v doubtful_a of_o which_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o tenet_n or_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v of_o itself_o manifest_a the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o lodovicus_n vives_z above-recited_n to_o which_o vossius_fw-la in_o the_o sibus_fw-la historico-theologicis_a of_o infant-baptisme_n join_v the_o testimony_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n and_o by_o the_o examine_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v and_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n which_o in_o historical_a business_n be_v wont_a to_o beget_v credit_n the_o word_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n 840._o in_o his_o book_n derebus_n ecclesiasticis_fw-la chap._n 26._o be_v these_o we_o be_v also_o to_o note_n that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_v only_o to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o who_o by_o integrity_n both_o of_o body_n and_o mind_n be_v already_o come_v to_o this_o that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o be_v obtain_v in_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v what_o last_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o christ_n thus_o far_o mr._n t._n and_o his_o quotation_n of_o walafridus_n 1._o to_o mr._n t._n his_o major_n we_o say_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o itself_o manifest_a for_o what_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v any_o record_n of_o antiquity_n for_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o many_o thing_n in_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n be_v they_o therefore_o doubtful_a when_o as_o we_o have_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o they_o therefore_o the_o mere_a fail_v of_o the_o vote_n of_o humane_a writer_n do_v not_o make_v a_o thing_n doubtful_a though_o the_o papist_n urge_v we_o with_o the_o like_a argument_n that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o true_a because_o we_o can_v produce_v history_n etc._n etc._n to_o show_v their_o succession_n in_o all_o age_n if_o we_o fail_v in_o record_n of_o antiquity_n we_o may_v thank_v the_o papist_n chief_o who_o as_o we_o may_v say_v martyr_v by_o fire_n and_o otherwise_o as_o well_o good_a book_n as_o godly_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o truth_n according_a to_o scripture_n stand_v where_o it_o do_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o minor_a we_o say_v in_o general_a 1._o that_o mr._n t._n tell_v we_o beside_o of_o lodovicus_n vives_z and_o wal._n strabo_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n of_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v of_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o of_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n but_o quote_v they_o not_o which_o be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o beget_v credit_n in_o the_o judicious_a reader_n it_o be_v too_o much_o to_o believe_v every_o author_n upon_o his_o bare_a word_n without_o other_o circumstance_n and_o therefore_o by_o much_o more_o too_o much_o to_o believe_v author_n not_o produce_v but_o only_o intimate_v by_o mr._n t._n 2._o mr._n tomb_n give_v we_o in_o two_o late-man_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o stream_n of_o ancient_a antiquity_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o those_o two_o 3._o if_o those_o two_o have_v be_v a_o considerable_a number_n or_o have_v produce_v to_o we_o any_o considerable_a reason_n or_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n high_o than_o themselves_o or_o any_o fair_a probability_n or_o circumstance_n how_o they_o gather_v it_o they_o will_v soon_o have_v beget_v credit_n then_o as_o they_o be_v now_o propose_v in_o particular_a first_o to_o ludovicus_n vives_z we_o answer_v
justin_n martyr_n 2._o to_o the_o mention_n of_o irenaeus_n we_o say_v orthod_n resp_n ad_fw-la qu._n 115._o ad_fw-la orthod_n that_o this_o argument_n be_v weak_a also_o for_o first_o justin_n martyr_n be_v put_v in_o anno_fw-la 130._o after_o christ_n and_o they_o say_v he_o be_v martyr_v not_o till_o anno_fw-la 165_o helvic_n 165_o helvic_n yea_o some_o say_v not_o till_o 169_o buchol_n 169_o buchol_n and_o irenaeus_n be_v a_o bishop_n anno_fw-la 170_o and_o therefore_o must_v needs_o be_v famous_a many_o year_n before_o justin_n martyr_n death_n and_o therefore_o well_o may_v they_o quote_v one_o another_o in_o their_o book_n but_o to_o allow_v more_o then_o mr._n t._n object_n namely_o as_o some_o object_n that_o justin_n martyr_n in_o the_o say_a place_n call_v irenaeus_n martyr_n when_o as_o he_o be_v martyr_v long_o after_o justin_n martyr_n death_n we_o answer_v that_o if_o that_o word_n martyr_n be_v not_o put_v in_o by_o some_o late_a scribe_n since_o for_o the_o honour_n and_o distinction_n of_o the_o man_n however_o in_o the_o english_a the_o word_n martyr_v be_v take_v yet_o usual_o in_o latin_a and_o more_o constant_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o signify_v only_o a_o witness_n and_o irenaeus_n be_v a_o famous_a witness_n to_o the_o truth_n by_o pen_n and_o profession_n in_o justin_n martyr_n time_n though_o not_o by_o blood_n again_o if_o martyr_n be_v take_v for_o a_o sufferer_n yet_o not_o always_o for_o a_o sufferer_n by_o death_n isaac_n be_v say_v to_o be_v persecute_v by_o ishmael_n only_o mock_v he_o gal._n 4.29_o gen._n 21.9_o which_o kind_n of_o opposition_n and_o worse_o irenaeus_n no_o doubt_n meet_v with_o in_o those_o persecute_v time_n of_o he_o and_o of_o justins_n as_o forerunner_n of_o the_o effusion_n of_o their_o blood_n 3._o to_o the_o mention_n of_o origen_n in_o his_o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n resp_n ad_fw-la qu._n 82._o &_o 86._o we_o say_v that_o chronologer_n and_o historian_n those_o few_o we_o can_v cast_v a_o look_n upon_o be_v so_o uncertain_a about_o the_o life_n and_o death_n of_o these_o two_o father_n as_o be_v wonderful_a bucholcer_n bucholcer_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o some_o that_o origen_n and_o justin_n martyr_n be_v within_o some_o 14_o or_o 15_o year_n one_o of_o another_o and_o we_o hear_v afore_o that_o some_o make_v justin_n martyr_n far_o long_o live_v than_o other_o do_v now_o if_o indeed_o as_o who_o know_v to_o the_o contrary_a either_o origen_n be_v bear_v soon_o or_o justin_n martyr_n live_v long_o but_o a_o few_o year_n justin_n martyr_n may_v well_o hear_v of_o origen_n who_o be_v a_o great_a scholar_n very_o young_a even_o before_o he_o be_v 18_o year_n old_a and_o write_v soon_o and_o much_o in_o all_o 7000_o book_n as_o hieroni_n report_v i_o confess_v for_o my_o part_n i_o speak_v my_o conscience_n if_o that_o be_v all_o the_o objection_n i_o shall_v soon_o believe_v man_n writing_n quote_v one_o another_o as_o sufficient_a testimony_n that_o they_o live_v some_o year_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o it_o be_v near_o confess_v by_o author_n then_o to_o doubt_v of_o such_o because_o some_o chronologer_n or_o historian_n cipher_n or_o say_v they_o to_o be_v 14_o or_o 15_o year_n after_o one_o another_o but_o where_o do_v these_o question_n ad_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la quote_v origen_n we_o can_v find_v but_o two_o one_o in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o 82._o quest_n on_o which_o let_v any_o ingenuous_a man_n look_v and_o observe_v how_o he_o be_v name_v if_o he_o in_o the_o last_o close_a of_o all_o and_o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o answer_n without_o mention_n of_o the_o suppose_a origen_n and_o he_o will_v say_v very_o this_o be_v but_o some_o marginal_a note_n since_o justin_n martyr_n thrust_v into_o the_o text._n the_o other_o place_n be_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o 86._o question_v and_o therefore_o very_o likely_a to_o be_v thru_v too_o into_o the_o text_n for_o let_v a_o man_n put_v out_o the_o first_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v expound_v by_o origen_n and_o yet_o the_o sense_n will_v be_v full_a thus_o that_o to_o a_o man_n that_o be_v skilful_a in_o the_o hebrew_n tongue_n there_o be_v a_o interpretation_n of_o all_o the_o hebrew_n name_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v further_o strengthen_v because_o in_o the_o close_a it_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v if_o you_o consult_v that_o interpretation_n not_o that_o origen_n if_o he_o beside_o a_o man_n that_o be_v critical_o skill_v in_o the_o greek_a which_o i_o profess_v not_o he_o will_v haply_o examine_v if_o origen_n be_v here_o quote_v first_o why_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d man_n be_v needless_o put_v in_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o construe_v the_o verb_n passive_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v interpret_v by_o origen_n there_o be_v no_o preposition_n according_a to_o the_o usual_a rule_n and_o last_o whether_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o some_o other_o word_n signify_v some_o other_o thing_n then_o a_o proper_a name_n to_o fignifie_v origen_n we_o can_v give_v instance_n but_o for_o haste_n but_o to_o give_v mr._n t._n a_o objection_n which_o he_o do_v not_o make_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n be_v not_o think_v to_o be_v justin_n martyr_n because_o in_o they_o there_o be_v such_o contradiction_n contrary_a to_o what_o be_v say_v in_o justin_n martyr_n work_n as_o mr._n t._n his_o r._n cook_n observe_v as_o that_o in_o the_o 52._o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n it_o be_v say_v the_o witch_n 1_o sam._n 28._o do_v delude_v the_o eye_n of_o all_o the_o beholder_n that_o they_o may_v think_v it_o be_v samuel_n but_o in_o his_o dialog-cum_a tryphone_n the_o contrary_a be_v affirm_v qu._n 142._o ad_fw-la orthodox_n it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o create_a angel_n that_o talk_v with_o jacob_n but_o in_o his_o dialogue_n cum_fw-la tryphone_n he_o prove_v he_o to_o be_v a_o uncreated_a angel_n 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t._n well_o know_v subordinate_a thing_n be_v not_o contrary_a christ_n regenerate_v therefore_o do_v he_o not_o do_v it_o by_o his_o ordinance_n word_n baptism_n &_o c_o we_o have_v hear_v afore_o that_o though_o christ_n be_v the_o author_n of_o our_o salvation_n yet_o it_o be_v say_v we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o for_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o thing_n signify_v the_o thing_n signify_v be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n we_o add_v ephes_n 5.26.1_o pet._n 1.23_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o we_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n by_o the_o word_n and_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o we_o know_v christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n be_v the_o author_n of_o these_o 3_o other_o of_o the_o approve_a ancient_n as_o commentator_n on_o irenaeus_n call_v baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o regeneration_n nazianzen_n call_v baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o laver_n of_o 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and_o further_o answer_v in_o the_o 14_o chap._n of_o our_o animadversion_n at_o the_o word_n cyprian_n in_o the_o margin_n that_o this_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o these_o author_n justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n in_o this_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n will_v further_o appear_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o most_o approve_a ancient_n that_o follow_v they_o in_o the_o next_o succeed_a age_n which_o we_o have_v think_v most_o proper_a to_o defer_v to_o the_o next_o chapter_n of_o our_o animadversion_n upon_o mr_n t._n his_o five_o argument_n chap._n xiiii_o the_o five_o argument_n that_o which_o in_o succeed_a age_n in_o which_o it_o be_v in_o use_n it_o exercitat_fw-la argu._n 4._o §_o 17._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o wrong_n original_a of_o infant-baptism_n confirm_v against_o it_o be_v in_o force_n 1_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v 2_o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n 3_o without_o universal_a practice_n 4_o together_o with_o the_o 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solemnity_n etc._n etc._n be_v so_o obvious_a to_o he_o that_o read_v father_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n that_o no_o man_n will_v need_v proof_n ergo._n and_o in_o very_a deed_n as_o of_o old_a because_o the_o right_n of_o infant-baptisme_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o so_o great_a moment_n against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o council_n under_o cyprian_a the_o council_n of_o milevis_n augustine_n hierom_n and_o other_o rather_o then_o for_o any_o solid_a argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n in_o former_a age_n infant-baptisme_n prevail_v so_o in_o this_o last_o age_n some_o modern_a man_n seem_v to_o embrace_v this_o tenet_n of_o infant-baptisme_n out_o of_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v go_v headlong_o into_o the_o pernicious_a error_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n and_o their_o mad_a fury_n or_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o desert_n the_o leading-man_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n or_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n rather_o 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jewish_a passover_n 1_o cor._n 5._o and_o of_o the_o jewish_a manna_n and_o water_n out_o of_o the_o rock_n 1_o cor._n 10.1_o &c_n &c_n be_v therefore_o all_o baptism_n and_o be_v therefore_o the_o lord_n supper_n deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o they_o may_v be_v use_v yea_o why_o do_v mr_n t._n without_o any_o limitation_n call_v circumcision_n jewish_a as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v mere_o so_o when_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o rom._n 4.11_o the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n note_n note_n it_o have_v be_v too_o much_o for_o mr_n t._n to_o have_v call_v it_o mere_a old_a testament_n or_o ceremonious_a circumcision_n see_v it_o be_v the_o first_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n which_o be_v gospel_n be_v the_o main_a hinge_n upon_o which_o the_o new_a testament_n move_v in_o the_o main_a point_n of_o salvation_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n act._n 2._o rom._n 4._o gal._n 3._o where_o the_o apostle_n in_o send_v we_o to_o christ_n by_o faith_n 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practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n when_o many_o of_o their_o fellow_n have_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o it_o nor_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o wave_v that_o we_o have_v say_v to_o these_o two_o particular_n viz._n the_o second_o and_o three_o by_o tell_v we_o there_o be_v a_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n in_o scripture_n a_o institution_n of_o baptism_n of_o man_n and_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o scripture_n for_o so_o we_o have_v prove_v there_o be_v of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o we_o may_v as_o well_o assert_v this_o in_o this_o our_o answer_n as_o for_o the_o anabaptist_n to_o beg_v the_o question_n in_o the_o objection_n as_o if_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o institute_v in_o scripture_n for_o the_o four_o particular_a with_o its_o great_a &_o cetera_fw-la namely_o that_o together_o with_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n some_o error_n and_o many_o humane_a tradition_n have_v go_v along_o in_o the_o company_n as_o giving_z infant_n the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n it_o need_v no_o long_a nor_o careful_a answer_n for_o first_o we_o know_v that_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n have_v be_v for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n for_o the_o general_a daub_v with_o many_o tradition_n and_o darken_v with_o many_o error_n by_o the_o papist_n doctrine_n mix_v with_o legend_n note_n note_n baptism_n be-spitled_n grease_v with_o oil_n brine_v with_o salt_n the_o wine_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n mix_v with_o water_n etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o do_v not_o infer_v that_o therefore_o the_o ordinance_n themselves_o be_v doubtful_a 2._o that_o though_o you_o mr_n t._n vltrò_fw-la nos_fw-la provocasti_fw-la have_v voluntary_o provoke_v we_o here_o to_o rip_v up_o all_o the_o abominable_a opinion_n and_o dangerous_a error_n and_o practice_n that_o have_v in_o all_o age_n accompany_v the_o opinion_n of_o anabaptism_n and_o antipaedobaptisme_n out_o of_o mr_n bullinger_n sleiden_n commentary_n in_o his_o 5._o and_o 10._o book_n lambertus_n hortensius_n of_o the_o anabaptiss_n of_o the_o low_a country_n john_n gastius_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n of_o zuitzerland_n melancthon_n ch._n de_fw-fr nielles_fw-fr pontanus_n osiander_n etc._n etc._n sin_n etc._n all_o which_o will_v more_o than_o furnish_v the_o reader_n with_o a_o full_a answer_n to_o the_o 2_o part_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la the_o title_n or_o sum_n whereof_o be_v set_v down_o by_o mr_n t._n that_o antipaedobaptisme_n have_v no_o ill_a influence_n on_o church_n or_o commonwealth_n which_o author_n aforesaid_a have_v too_o many_o sad_a instance_n of_o both_o we_o forbear_v to_o name_v they_o as_o have_v no_o delight_n in_o catalogue_n of_o sin_n yet_o if_o we_o shall_v do_v so_o you_o will_v not_o take_v that_o for_o a_o proof_n of_o the_o doubtfulness_n of_o anabaptism_n or_o antipaedobaptisme_n you_o will_v say_v we_o do_v rather_o endeavour_v to_o disgrace_v it_o then_o to_o confute_v it_o as_o it_o be_v your_o complaint_n against_o mr_n m._n in_o your_o first_o section_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o your_o examen_fw-la why_o then_o do_v you_o here_o labour_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o man_n against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v believer_n child_n with_o a_o aspersion_n that_o some_o odd_a opinion_n and_o tradition_n have_v attend_v it_o 2._o to_o mr_n t._n his_o minor_a we_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o particular_n he_o recite_v but_o in_o some_o age_n say_v he_o after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o use_n first_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v but_o why_o do_v mr_n t._n we_o wonder_v speak_v of_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o 100_o year_n from_o the_o apostle_n for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v infant-baptisme_n to_o be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o the_o first_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n all_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o that_o age_n it_o be_v not_o a_o unwritten_a one_o though_o all_o the_o 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origen_n origen_n flourish_v about_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o second_o century_n or_o age_n after_o the_o first_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n for_o he_o be_v bear_v hieron_n bear_v so_o butholcer_n out_o of_o hieron_n in_o the_o first_o age_n or_o 100_o year_n after_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 186._o and_o he_o be_v the_o disciple_n of_o clement_n in_o the_o 18_o year_n of_o his_o age_n and_o about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 204._o open_n his_o school_n euseb_n school_n helvic_n ouâ—_n of_o euseb_n therefore_o he_o can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o apostle_n about_o infant-baptisme_n etc._n etc._n first_o his_o word_n in_o his_o five_o book_n upon_o the_o six_o chapter_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n be_v the_o church_n have_v receive_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n also_o to_o
of_o baptism_n chap._n 18._o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o iâ—_n he_o do_v allow_v it_o as_o mr_n t._n add_v it_o be_v only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o his_o word_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la chap._n 39_o we_o reply_v to_o this_o 1._o that_o both_o these_o place_n of_o tertullian_n be_v before_o allege_v translate_v and_o discuss_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o be_v for_o infant-baptisme_n chap._n 13._o of_o our_o animadvers_fw-la at_o the_o word_n tertul_n in_o the_o margin_n which_o we_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v over_o again_o where_o you_o may_v see_v that_o tertullian_n have_v nothing_o of_o allowance_n of_o infant-baptisme_n only_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o if_o the_o place_n be_v well_o weigh_v he_o say_v that_o which_o he_o say_v for_o infant-baptisme_n without_o any_o such_o limitation_n which_o infant-baptisme_n among_o other_o passage_n be_v assert_v by_o tertullian_n in_o those_o word_n that_o the_o child_n 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himself_o in_o his_o say_a book_n and_o 8_o chap._n de_fw-fr animâ_fw-la that_o child_n be_v not_o holy_a till_o they_o be_v count_v so_o in_o christ_n and_o how_o in_o christ_n when_o they_o be_v by_o mean_n of_o one_o of_o the_o holy_a parent_n under_o the_o promise_n of_o be_v a_o holy_a seed_n and_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n which_o for_o child_n while_o such_o be_v only_a baptism_n and_o whereas_o mr_n t._n bring_v in_o learned_a grotius_n as_o countenance_v he_o in_o rely_v upon_o tertullian_n against_o infant-baptisme_n we_o have_v large_o and_o plain_o lay_v open_a after_z in_o our_o animadversion_n in_o this_o chap._n upon_o the_o six_o section_n of_o mr_n t._n his_o examen_fw-la see_v the_o margin_n there_o 1._o that_o grotius_n reject_v tertullia_n opinion_n as_o nothing_o sway_v he_o against_o infant-baptisme_n 2._o that_o grotius_n by_o many_o argument_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n 3._o we_o now_o add_v that_o it_o be_v true_a grotius_n do_v say_v tertullianus_n de_fw-fr aetate_fw-la quâ_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la essent_fw-la qui_fw-la christianae_n disciplinae_fw-la a_o parentibus_fw-la consâ—crabantur_fw-la nihil_fw-la definitum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la suis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la docet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o tertullian_n show_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o set_a time_n of_o baptise_v they_o that_o be_v consecrate_a by_o their_o parent_n to_o christian_a discipline_n be_v not_o determine_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o those_o time_n believer_n child_n must_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o they_o be_v out_o of_o their_o parent_n guardianship_n and_o of_o ripe_a year_n 2._o mr_n t._n object_n against_o cyprian_a 7._o examen_fw-la sect._n 7._o that_o indeed_o he_o handle_v infant-baptisme_n at_o large_a in_o his_o 59_o epistle_n ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la and_o say_v in_o that_o epistle_n enough_o for_o it_o and_o more_o then_o enough_o unless_o he_o have_v speak_v to_o better_a purpose_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o 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contention_n about_o easter_n near_o that_o age_n do_v plain_o show_v that_o judaisme_n be_v not_o quite_o weed_v out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o chief_a teacher_n among_o christian_n thus_o mr_n t._n we_o answer_v 1_o that_o however_o mr_n t._n despise_v here_o cyprian_n testimony_n animadver_n animadver_n yet_o the_o renow_v pious_a learned_a esteem_v it_o as_o cyrill_n or_o john_n of_o jerusalem_n gregory_n nazianzen_n chrysostome_n ambrose_n hierom_n augustine_n the_o place_n where_o in_o their_o work_n we_o quote_v a_o little_a afore_o in_o the_o margin_n over_o against_o the_o end_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a nor_o do_v ancient_a writer_n only_o esteem_v it_o on_o who_o spirit_n mr_n t._n say_v there_o be_v such_o darkness_n and_o on_o who_o spirit_n be_v there_o not_o some_o at_o this_o time_n of_o great_a light_n but_o also_o late_a learn_v pious_a writer_n even_o mr_n t._n his_o beloved_a vossius_fw-la &_o grotius_n so_o oft_o quote_v by_o he_o vossius_fw-la say_v 19.14_o vossius_fw-la thes_n theolog._n &_o hist_n de_fw-fr paedo_fw-la bapt_v thes_n 9_o grotius_n in_o mat._n 19.14_o that_o this_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a be_v above_o or_o beyond_o all_o exception_n grotius_n say_v that_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n make_v the_o matter_n plain_a that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o doubt_n of_o baptise_v infant_n etc._n etc._n 2_o when_o mr_n t._n urge_v the_o father_n in_o the_o least_o as_o one_o place_n out_o of_o one_o origen_n or_o etc._n etc._n in_o a_o point_n of_o great_a doubt_n we_o must_v entertain_v it_o by_o mr_n t._n his_o intendment_n but_o when_o we_o urge_v many_o place_n out_o of_o many_o then_o say_v he_o they_o be_v this_o and_o that_o 3_o better_a man_n than_o these_o father_n may_v have_v some_o darkness_n john_n baptist_n be_v great_a than_o the_o prophet_n and_o he_o that_o be_v least_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o church_n now_o be_v great_a than_o he_o 4_o many_o man_n may_v in_o these_o day_n hold_v a_o solid_a truth_n yet_o not_o upon_o the_o best_a ground_n of_o it_o for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n of_o they_o 5_o that_o fidus_n thus_o far_o express_o hold_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n to_o be_v abrogate_a that_o baptism_n be_v come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n and_o may_v be_v administer_v at_o least_o as_o soon_o as_o circumcision_n be_v to_o child_n 2._o act._n 21.20_o gal._n 2._o 6_o we_o know_v that_o many_o christian_a jew_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o peter_n himself_o do_v too_o much_o judaize_v shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o receive_v that_o true_a light_n that_o be_v in_o they_o 7_o for_o that_o of_o ester_n we_o know_v the_o controversy_n too_o far_o and_o too_o long_o about_o that_o time_n invade_v christian_a england_n shall_v not_o we_o therefore_o be_v regard_v in_o any_o truth_n martyr_n mr_n fox_n book_n of_o martyr_n yea_o do_v not_o the_o observation_n of_o ester_n reach_v down_o to_o mr_n
of_o the_o young_a and_o learn_a and_o most_o orthodox_n and_o pious_a know_v well_o the_o last_o generation_n in_o which_o they_o live_v his_o word_n be_v very_o considerable_a in_o his_o ten_o book_n de_fw-fr genes_n ad_fw-la literarum_fw-la cap._n 23._o the_o custom_n say_v he_o of_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n in_o baptise_v little_a child_n be_v by_o no_o mean_n to_o be_v despise_v nor_o altogether_o to_o be_v repute_v superfluous_a nor_o by_o all_o mean_n to_o be_v believe_v but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n where_o he_o mean_v by_o apostolical_a tradition_n the_o apostle_n doctrine_n deliver_v bring_v down_o to_o we_o in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o tradition_n or_o hand_v of_o it_o from_o one_o generation_n to_o another_o so_o to_o be_v his_o meaning_n be_v plain_a 1._o because_o augustine_n in_o his_o dispute_n against_o the_o donatist_n for_o infant-baptisme_n 21._o li._n 4._o de_fw-fr bap._n cap._n 21._o prove_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n 2._o because_o in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr pecc_fw-la mer._n &_o remiss_a cap._n 26._o say_v thus_o some_o of_o the_o pelagian_o do_v grant_v under_o some_o notion_n that_o little_a child_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v who_o can_v go_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o without_o all_o doubt_n be_v deliver_v to_o they_o by_o the_o lord_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n 3._o in_o his_o ten_o sermon_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n say_v let_v no_o man_n whisper_v unto_o you_o strange_a doctrine_n this_o the_o church_n always_o have_v always_o hold_v this_o it_o receive_v from_o the_o faith_n or_o faithfulness_n of_o our_o ancienter_n and_o this_o it_o keep_v with_o perseverance_n to_o the_o end_n 4._o these_o thing_n to_o be_v most_o true_o speak_v by_o augustine_n we_o do_v know_v say_v vossius_fw-la by_o this_o that_o the_o pelagian_o some_o of_o they_o dare_v not_o deny_v they_o 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out_o of_o the_o african_a council_n hold_v under_o boniface_n and_o celestinus_fw-la in_o the_o 77._o canon_n whereof_o it_o be_v thus_o item_n placuit_fw-la qui_fw-la parvulos_fw-la recentes_fw-la ab_fw-la uteris_fw-la matrum_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la negate_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v it_o please_v the_o counsel_n that_o whosoever_o deni_v that_o little_a one_o new_o bear_v from_o the_o mother_n womb_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v or_o say_v that_o they_o be_v baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o they_o contract_v or_o draw_v nothing_o of_o original_a sin_n from_o adam_n which_o need_v to_o be_v expiate_v by_o the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o by_o they_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n into_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o true_o but_o false_o understand_v let_v he_o be_v anathema_n thus_o the_o say_a counsel_n by_o the_o plaster_n make_v by_o this_o counsel_n you_o may_v perceive_v the_o disease_n of_o pelagius_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o 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etc._n etc._n cluniacensis_fw-la so_o have_v the_o opposer_n of_o infant-baptisme_n since_o see_v cloppenburgius_fw-la in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o gangrene_n of_o anabaptisticall_a divinity_n some_o particular_n we_o have_v translate_v afore_o in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n yea_o the_o say_a henricus_n and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n doubt_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o paul_n epistle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o m.t._n his_o cluniacensis_fw-la 2_o that_o former_o those_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n hold_v all_o those_o dreadful_a error_n we_o number_v up_o a_o little_a afore_o cap._n 15._o 3_o that_o many_o of_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n be_v either_o arian_n or_o pelagian_o or_o socinian_o or_o arminiaus_fw-la as_o we_o have_v former_o show_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n augustin_n m._n phillips_n and_o m._n ainsworth_n and_o experience_n at_o this_o day_n show_v we_o in_o they_o that_o together_o with_o 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