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A45147 Pacification touching the doctrinal dissent among our united brethren in London being an answer to Mr. Williams and Mr. Lobb both, who have appealed in one point (collected for an error) to this author, for his determination about it : together with some other more necessary points falling in, as also that case of non-resistance, which hath always been a case of that grand concern to the state, and now more especially, in regard to our loyalty to King William, and association to him, resolved, on that occasion / by Mr. John Humfrey. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1696 (1696) Wing H3697; ESTC R16468 49,303 49

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or right Notion in it he may make it more clear by the fulness of his Expression when mine is barren and indeed tell what Dr. Bates should mean and what I do mean better perhaps than my self I do conjure him so far as he is convinced not to be ashamed to own the Truth however naked it be here and without Friends Or else to give me sufficient reason for my return to his Temper which seems to me such as to let his Opinion be that or no other but that which he can so defend against his Adversaries as to lose no Repute with his Followers For Mr. Lobb I am not concerned for whether I differ with him in all or not at all we leave one another to our own Judgments It is the words of others he hath quoted and I apprehend himself free to his own Opinion wherein I know he hath had and may have Candour and Latitude which may be therefore the same with mine as theirs if he will and if he will not he may choose He is one that for his Industry in reading Books and good Temper upon it I do value and though there be some that are stumbled at the Interest he had in King James's Court I judge that seeing it was laid out mainly to get and maintain their Liberty the Brethren have little reason to censure and much less to envy it Mr. Lobb I must tell some had no Gift from that King King James indeed knew how to toul Men into him by Liberty of Conscience and make that a Schooing-Horn to have drawn Popery upon the Nation if he had not been prevented But any one may easily believe he never had such a Heart to any Nonconformist Protestant as to build us a Synagogue I had written about a side upon this account but blotting out the rest I will let thus much stand that upon this Interest of Mr. Lobb I had Admittance once into King James's Presence and having spoken what I came about and something concerning his Dispensing with the Law I said thus to him That if he would maintain that Dispensing Power which I counted he then exercised he changed his Government and the People would fight with him and their Cause be good I spake it in such words and some the same as Mr. Lobb can witness that are in the ensuing Paper which I printed lately by it self for serving the present Generation according to my Mite but knowing how such single Papers are used torn burnt lost and having at first wrote it in these Sheets I did not intend but it should also come out with them In a Book it will be kept and I Prognosticate too will remain to that Age to come wherein no Man will be found that dare write or say the same That Doctrine was accounted good in Queen Elizabeth's Time which in King Charles and King James's was made Treason and now in King William's hath been Justified Memoriae Sacrum WHereas there have been some that fear God of all Ranks the higher and meaner Rank and Conditions Clergy and Laity that could not submit to the Present Government so as to take the Oath of Fidelity to the King nay nor so much as come to the Liturgy whereof otherwise they were so fond because of the Prayers that are there said for him And whereas there are now many more that though they have Sworn Allegiance to William as King de Facto they cannot come to an Acknowledgment of him as King de Jure so as to Associate in a Cordial Defence of him with others All which Doubts depend upon the sole Question about King James's Conscionable Exclusion wherein it is not meerly out of Interest as most selfish Men will think Humour or Inclination that they are gravell'd but out of Conscience grounded on the Thirteenth to the Romans And forasmuch as I wrote a Book in the year 1680. printed for R. Clavel Entituled A Peaceable Resolution of Conscience touching our present Impositions wherein I have spoken for Loyalty against Resistance not only as much for it is a Political Book but more in one Vertical Point than others and too much upon further Knowledge than is fit for our English Government I do think meet for the rectifying my self and an humble Tender for other Satisfaction especially such devout Loyalists as have forsaken what they had rather than the Confession they once made in so solemn a Declaration and Subscription which was then enjoyned all Conformists That it is not Lawful to take Arms against the King upon any Pretence whatsoever to bear this Testimony to that Text of the Apostle and leave it on Record before I dye being now 75 years Old for the sake of Posterity The words are these Let every Soul be subject unto the Higher Powers For there is no Power but of God The Powers that be ore Ordained of God Whosoever therefore resisteth the Power resisteth the Ordinance of God and they that resist shall receive to themselves Damnation There are two Distinctions here necessary to be known To offer more were to Confound not Edifie One is between Subjection and Obedience It is Dr. Field's Distinction in the Words and in the Meaning none of those that are for the Doctrine of Non-resistance and Passive Obedience but will so far agree with us We are not always to Obey the Higher Powers Themselves must acknowledge but we are they say always to be in Subjection and never Resist rise up and deliver our selves from them If God forbids what the Magistrate commands or if God commands what he forbids God must be obey'd rather than Man This by their Word Passive they assent unto but as to the Point of Subjection it is in that the Question and Difference lyes betwen us The other Distinction then is what They have not yet known nor was it ever yet used before by any that I know unless perhaps my self The Sense almost all have but not the Elucidation Distinguish we then between these two things which certainly are different things the Powers that are and the Powers that are * There may be a Pretended Power where there is None Such as was King James's Dispensing Power and his Commissions now not This is a plain Distinction every one can understand it and it is undeniable The Powers the Higher Powers in the Text are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Powers that be This is certain and express the Powers that be are the Powers in the Text the Powers that are of God the Ordinance of God and they that resist shall receive to themselves Damnation Let this be granted to these Devout Men but then must they grant to me again what cannot be denied by any that as for the Powers that are not the Powers I say that are not the Powers that be they are not the Powers in the Text not the Powers that are of God not the Ordinance of God and they that resist them and not the Powers that be shall not