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A43115 The Quaker converted; or the experimental knowledg of Jesus Christ crucified, in opposition to the principles of the Quakers, declared in a narrative of the conversion of one in Hartfordshire, who was for some years of their faith and principle, and inclined unto them. The manner how he was wrought off from them by the Lord. And several dealings of Christ with his spirit afterwards. With some things annexed for detection of their errors and delusions, and prevention of the growth thereof. Written by himself in his own words and phrases. Likewise an epistle dedicatory by W. Haworth, minister of the gospel at Hartford. Dimsdale, William.; Haworth, William. 1690 (1690) Wing H1196A; ESTC R43046 28,241 35

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of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her Head at thee I conclude with this Remember how you have heard and received and hold fast Rev. 3.3.1 John 2. Read the 18 19 20 21 22 23 and this is the 24th Let that therefore abide in you which you have heard from the beginning If that which ye have heard from the beginning remain in you ye shall also continue in the Son and in the Father Amen I subscribe my self your Servant for Jesus sake Will. Haworth The Bookseller to the Reader There is a Reply to an Answer of the Quakers to this Tract Writ likewise by the same Person And if thou wouldst see farther into the Errors of the Quakers read Mr. Faldo's two Books entituled Quakerism no Christianity c. Sold at the Golden-Lion in Paul's Church-yard The Quaker Converted God which appointeth unto Man the Bounds of his Habitation and dealeth with Man as it pleaseth Him in bringing him to himself deal with me in manner and Form following FIrst I was brought up to the Publick Worship that was in England at that time And as my Parents were able I was put to School And the Lord did restrain me that I did not break out into open Sins as many did And being of Age fitting I went to be an Apprentice in Ignorance that my Master was of that Opinion namely a Quaker My Parents after they had knowledg thereof laboured that I might have the Priviledg to go to the Publick to worship which Priviledg I had for a time But after the prayer-Prayer-Book was made use of there I was permitted to go no more which was a great trouble to me After a considerable time I grew desirous to go to the Quakers Meeting having heard much talk of them and of the Gifts their Ministers had and whilst it was thus with me I was commanded to go and I went several times as other Boys did only this I was taken off from having delight in Sports and Pastims quickly after my going and did refuse going to such Delights when I might go But being about Sixteen Years of Age as I remember having some workings upon my Spirit it was set home upon me That there was a God that would take Vengeance on them that did not obey him nor keep his Commandments And that there was no escaping of this God and withal it would be my Portion to fall under his Wrath if I continued as I was for I had broken his Commands this presently followed Have I Sinned I will do so no more and from that time I went on by Degrees to keep my Conscience void of offence according to that Light which I had And at that time I was of that Frame of Spirit that I was ready to assent to every thing the Quakers did whether I had ground for it or not For when I had not a real Perswasion that that thing which I did was Sin I had these reasonings in me There are such and such Men that are mighty Men in Gifts and of great Fame and very just Men and they do not do these things therefore it is Sin And I was ready to go upon this Ground My Parents also at such times as I was with them desired me to go to Church with them as I had done before and I refused and would not go Soon after this there arose great Suffering-times after which it was ordered that I went not frequently to the Meetings but to some few in which they spake not yielding to any thing I did believe was Sin before God And after a time being at a Meeting with Alexander Parker as I remember he made use of these Words which I found upon my Search in the 1 Thessal 5.21 Prove all things hold fast that which is good Knowing by the Words he spake that it was written in the Scripture And he did explain it in this manner Prove all Religions all Sects all Opinions and Words to this purpose But as for the way of proof I do not well remember But there was this thing that was cast into my Heart That they that are of the same Spirit with the Servants of the Lord which were in former Times must of Necessity in all things agree with the Scriptures whereupon I searched the Scripture comparing my Condition with it And as I grew up to understanding by Degrees I considered with my Self that there was a Jesus Christ which came to save Sinners and He was this Light within and by hearing their Discourses and by one means or other and knowing that there was such a thing in me as did convince me of Sin and if I was Obedient to it I was delivered from Sin I did believe this was the Christ Now the ends of his Coming I did believe were to change me from Darkness to Light and from the Power of Satan unto God to bring me into his own Image to be free from Sin and by Degrees as I was convinced of Sin I was Obedient unto the Light within which did reprove me and had Power over Sin and I rejoiced in it and counted my condition Happy and thought it would not be long before I was delivered from all my Sin and be brought into the Image of Christ Now to understand the frame of my Spirit I will insert one remarkable Passage which I did when I was about Nineteen or Twenty Years of Age which is this I being sent to the Shop for Herrings and had them delivered unto me I did dislike some of them and being sent to the Barrel alone to change some of them I being a great lover of them it arose in me what a Brave opportunity I had to slip one into my Pocket for my self this was the Temptation On the other Hand came the Light reproving of me in this manner I must not do this thing why if it should be known it would be a dishonour to my Name and I should be ashamed to look any Body in the Face and if it were not known to Man yet God would know it and he would Punish me if I sinn'd against Him Through which means I did Obey that which did reprove and touched none but what was my due and I went Home rejoicing with my Self in this manner How happy was my Condition now beyond what it had been if I had disobeyed the reproof and how good was the Lord to me in calling to me when I was tempted to do that evil Oh who would but love such a Lord as this But little did I think at that time that I had sinned against God So was I convinced of one evil one Day and was delivered from it and another Day another Evil and had Power over it and I had Joy and Peace in it Now there were some things which the Quakers did that I was not convinced of and I was ashamed to be found in them having no Ground for them in my self which things
leave it to those indued with the Spirit of God to judg Whether it be in the Power of Man to place aright such things as I have spoken without experience of these things Though I might speak other things as concerning my Judgment both then and present which was not by the perswasion of any one as may appear by what I have said before Who once wondered why the Law written by Moses was retained seeing there was another Law given since him by Jesus Christ whose Law I was to obey But I thought it was retained for a Memorial of what was in Days past as though that Law given by Moses did differ from the Law of Jesus But if there be another Law by Christ it is the Law of Faith and not of Works which is the Moral Law For if Christ made a difference it was in the Ceremonial Law which was then in Type and Figure but now in Substance For our High-Priest is not entered into the Holy Place made with Hands but into Heaven it self not with the blood of Bulls or Goats but with his own Blood because he gave himself an Offering and a Sacrifice to God and He bare our Sins upon his Body on the Tree by the which we have Peace with God But as to the Moral Law or the Law of Works I do not know any change in that though I once thought there was from that of Matth. 5. where he faith Ye have heard that it hath been said by them of Old time but I say unto you as concerning the Oath and other things there mentioned where He interprets the Law For he faith He came not to destroy the Law but to fulfil the Law Neither do I find in those places where He speaketh of putting his Law in their inward parts that He doth mention another Law or a part of that which then was But the Law is of the same length and breadth that it was and doth require as great a Righteousness to be saved thereby as ever it did to them which expect to be saved and accepted with God by Works Then how much doth it concern them which look for Salvation by a Righteousness in which they Live seeing the Scripture faith He that is in Christ ought himself to walk even as he walked 1 Joh. 2.6 Now how did Christ walk Christ so walked that He fulfilled the Law of God Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy Heart with all thy Soul and with all thy Strength and thy Neighbour as thy Self He was the Just One which was offered for the unjust in whose Mouth was found not Guile which in Himself knew no Sin For he did that which was pleasing in the sight of God always at all Times Joh. 8.29.2 Cor. 5.21 But it may fall out these few Lines may be presented to the Hands of some one or other which in their Hearts may say as I once said I have done the Will of the Lord and I have kept all his Commandments and if the Lord should take me out of this World I have no Sin to answer for but my Condition is good I need not to fear For the trial of which I shall repeat the things by which the Lord wounded me with some Additions But first remember these two things First The Lord seeth not as Man seeth for Man looketh upon the outward appearance but the Lord looketh on the Heart for the Lord doth require the Heart in what He hath commanded Man to be found in 1 Sam. 16.7 Prov. 23.26 Secondly All things are open to Him and He knoweth the Heart and every Thought and Desire thereof and there is nothing hid from his Eyes 1 Joh. 3.20 Luke 16.15 Psal 94.11 Heb. 4.13 Now to the things by which I was wounded thou may'st remember the Law is Thou shalt love the Lord thy God and thy Neighbour as thy self under which is comprehended these words Do unto all Men as thou wouldst be done unto Now ask thy self Wouldst thou have thy Neighbour speak an evil word of thee which I believe thou wouldst not then thou must not speak an evil word of thy Neighbour Wouldst thou not that an evil Thought should arise in him concerning thee then thou and I ought to do the same to him If thou hast done a thing that proveth an Injury or a Wrong to any Man unawares Wouldst thou in thine Heart he should say nay have such a thought in him that thou didst it on purpose out of Envy or Malice or some Spite towards thee to do thee a Mischief See that thou do the same to him or this will follow Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the Book of the Law to do them Again it is said Love your Enemies do good to them that hate you c. Which must be out of a pure Heart for the Lord looketh thereupon Now ask thy self O Man Art thou of the same frame of Spirit to him that is thine Enemy as thou art to him that is thy Bosom Friend Art thou of the same Temper Affections Coldness in thy Spirit at all times to him as thou art to thy Friend If he wrongeth thee is there not something in thee in thy Heart that would avenge thy self of this Man Doth it not say in this Language He had as good have held his Tongue or he had as good not have done this thing or that other thing for I will do him as good a kindness another time If he had done wrong to thee or some evil thing dost not thou declare it abroad to make him odious or hateful and to be a wicked Person in the Eyes of all or is it not in thy Heart at sometimes thus to do by him Tit. 3.1 2 3. If he be one that hath stood as an open Enemy against thee or one that thou hast received some Damage or wrong by though thou durst not Avenge thy self of him yet hast not thou rejoiced in thy Heart and did it not make thy Heart glad and didst not thou clap thy Hands as it were when some Evil hath befaln him or some other hath taken vengeance If thou hast is not this to take pleasure in them that commit wickedness Rom. 1.32 And is this to do unto Man as thou wouldst be done unto and the Lord will not let such Sins go unpunished Ezek. 25.6 Then this will follow Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things written in the Book of the Law to do them It is further written Matth. 5. Thou shalt not commit Adultery but he that looketh upon a Woman to lust after her hath committed Adultery with her in his Heart and so of all other Evils And dost thou never look upon a Woman having this arising in thee saying Would I might have my Pleasure my Hearts delight with this comely person Also it is farther said Thou shalt not covet any thing that is thy Neighbours Now dost thou at no time