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A10748 A treatise of ecclesiasticall and politike povver Shewing, the church is a monarchicall gouernment, ordained to a supernaturall and spirituall end, tempered with an aristocraticall order, (which is the best of all and most conformable to nature) by the great pastor of soules Iesus Christ. Faithfully translated out of the Latin originall, of late publikely printed and allowed in Paris. Now set foorth for a further warrant and encouragement to the Romish Catholikes of England, for theyr taking of the Oath of Allegiance; seeing so many others of their owne profession in other countries doe deny the Popes infalibility in indgement and temporall power ouer princes, directly against the doctrine of Iesuits. To the prince.; De ecclesiastica et politica potestate. English Richer, Edmond. 1612 (1612) STC 21024; ESTC S102957 32,246 64

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thorough all the world but onely some few yeres since that the diuell being almost at a bay strugleth with his last and most violent endeuours against the truth that strangleth him Neuerthelesse medling heerein more for your own good then for his Maiesties which yet as a right Pater Patriae as a kind Pater-familias of the Common-wealth hee will euer esteeme his owne when it is yours I thought some moneths a goe to haue presented you in your owne language that famous letter of a great friend of yours the Iesuit Cotton written in French to the Queene Regent of Fraunce in disalowance of Marianaes booke and other writings of other Iesuits approouing disobedience of subiects to their own lawful kings in temporall matters euen to their poisoning and murther But another man with more hast then good speede I am sure though not with a better minde then my selfe seruing it vnto you in another dish and with a sower sauce in the end of that odious chamber of meditations did quite marre the good vse that yee both and wee I meane the whole state might very well haue reapt therof All things are not fit to bee said at all times neither ought we so nakedly to vncouer the shame of our brethren as long as ther is any hope of amendment principally being most certain that the best part of you doth not alow yea I dare say not know those abhominable execrable and almost incredible courses For no doubt but it would haue made some impression in your harts to haue seene without such a bitter addition quite then out of season and rather to exasperate then to pacifie you so famous a man a Iesuit by profession and one of your greater saints writing of set purpose to so eminent a person and impugning whatsoeuer hitherto hath beene or hereafter might be written by any of his owne order or by others against the temporall authoritie of Princes ouer their subiects cyting orderlie one by one as numerus certus pro incerto a dozē of famous Iesuits Cardinall Tolet Cardinall Bellarmine Gregory of Valencia Salmeron Delrio Heyssius Becanus Gretzerus Lessius Serrerius Azor Richeom euerie one with some speciall place mainteining the Princes temporall authoritie And for better fortifying therof setting downe of himselfe and without any vrging 15. heads and principles of the faith and beleefe of their whole society about that matter whereof among the rest the 6. 7. 8 9. 10. 11. 12. are these after that in the former he hath established and highly cōmended the monarchicall state as the best That kings are annointed and therefore called the annointed of the Lord that euerie one as Simeon Archbishop of Thessalonica saith may vnderstand that they ought to be inuiolable and respected as holy and sacred persons That whosoeuer resisteth them or rebelleth against them shall receiue their owne damnation Rom. 13.2 That obedience is due vnto them not because vertuous wise mighty or of any other such qualities but meerely because they be kings and established by God That it is not lawful to deny them their obedience much lesse to rebell against them though they should bee v●●tous froward and hard to be endured 1. Pet. 2.18 That in such cases wee ought to pray for them as the Prophet did command the Iewes for Nebucadnezar and Baltazar Bar. i. ii And that those persecutions losses of goods and other afflictions which are patiently suffered for that cause and without rebellion against their superiours are things most pleasing to God and agreeable to that praise which Paul giueth to the Ebrewes cap. 10.34 and to that ordinance by himselfe published in the Church Rom. 1● 1. That it is not lawfull to attempt any thing against their persons but that it is a most execrable parricide a prodigious crime and abominable sacriledge All which articles and letter though by some accused of some equiuocation truely at least by all honest plaine-dealing men and fully good subiects of to much sparingnesse and cohibition in a matter which deserued with an open mouth to haue bene more clearely and largely extended yet willing to take al things in the best sence euen in our aduersaries and receiue as lawfull and current the coyne of ill pay-masters neuer so base neuer so clipt so it be but indifferent good I then purposed with a peaceful charitable and truely Christian and brotherly mind and fashion to set them before your eyes to the end you might with as peacefull a spirit and not stirred or distasted by any vnsauory appendix conceaue at least of this point That so many other Iesuits of other nations are not of the same opinion in that behalfe with your Parsons Campion Creswell Garnet Hall Greenwell Gerard Hamōd other your fiery Iesuits which as right Puritans among their other fellowes that is abstractum de abstracto as though England were the onely Seminary in the world for such a cumbersome to sharp-sighted and to sharp-minded zeale defin●ng and refining law and Gospell according to their owne humours and priuate ends till they haue I feare me and God forbid finished and dissolued all make Religion where there is none and irreligion of that which is most sacred and religious As by all lawes both diuine naturall Ecclesiasticall politike and positiue temporal obedience of subiects to their Princes is and hath euer beene held But that good duetie being intercepted as I told you before I had very willingly requited it by presenting you another booke of another though yet my Country-man still of your owne profession for with other armes will I neuer vrge you then those that your owne men shall put into my hands A man truly most worthy and learned A booke most worth reading intituled Of the common offence and priuiledged case wherein shewing by degrees and from age to age the incroaching increase of the authority of the Popes and Church-men in that old time of thick ignorance when scarce any in the world but they could reade or write his name that Author most excellently proueth that a principio non erat sic and that from the beginning many hundred yeares after al Church-men without exception were subiect to the ful obedience and Iustice of their ciuill Princes till by their fauourable graunt and relaxation or rather by an ouer-religious stat●nesse vnprouidency and scrupulous simplicitie Church-men by tract of time got to be released in some cases from whēce first arose the distinction betwixt delictum commune casus priuilegiatus as they call them But fearing least that booke neuer so cleer neuer so wel followed might not be of great moment with you as being written by a priuate man not perhaps so famous among you as your owne father Cotton though a noble Iudge of one of our high Courts of Parliament and his booke openly printed allowed and licenced by Catholike learned Diuines I thought rather to looke for a better opportunitie which I am sure hath not bene euer since so effectuall as this nor perhaps
most strictly to him and neuerthelesse two of them at least doe but hold by a bare and verie small threed As the third also would stand in the like case but that beeing so neere and terryfying a neighbour of all sides vnto the Pope he holds him by the throat as they say being able to starue him to death with all the Consistorie whensoeuer he will but restraine the transportation of corne out of Sicily and other his dominions round about whereby he commandeth more then he is commaunded not perhaps more then hated if they durst shew it and neuer giues their holy Ghost leaue to sing any other song but that which hee sends him ready prickt from Madrid Now then if these men when they haue done al their vtmost power yea in the stretching of their loue filial duty enlarged kindnes beyōd that which they can wel warrāt yet can they assigne vnto their father the Pope no more then a generall care of soules with a ministeriall direction onely for order and execution of Canons ouer particular Churches no power at all ouer the vniuersall Church in grosse much lesse ouer a generall Councell much lesse or in the same degree ouer the bodies of men by violence or any temporall punishment but by meere counsell persuasion onely And if not so much as ouer priuate bodies least of all ouer Kings and ciuill Princes which rather they allow and openly acknowledge to haue right and authoritie to commaund both Church and Church-men in some cases to which Princes all men aswell Ecclesiasticall as Ciuill must be most humble and faithfull subiects as being in so much as they be Lords of the territorie established by God Protectors and Defendors of the Church and of both Diuine and Naturall lawes with attribution of the materiall Sword to themselues only priuatiuely and exclusiuely from all others within their owne dominions What stop then any more deere brethren but that you shold gladly yeeld your naturall dutie and allegiance to your naturall king since ye are boūd to yeeld it euen to the froward 1. Pet. 2.18 That you should willingly giue him but that simple pawne of your loyaltie your oath the simplest that could euer be imagined vpon that great straight and necessitie whereunto the State was brought by that portentuous mischiefe which did once so nearely and daungerously threaten kingdome and vs all as you your selues haue bene most vndoubting eye-witnesses You shall not be Catholikes neuerthelesse and you know how little or nothing besides that is required at your hands your consciences are no waies pressed your thoughts are most free and your words thank God for it and your gracious King may freely expresse them In so much that euerie day some of you God forbid I should say all dispute as peremptorily speake as odiously decide as vnchristianly inueigh as publikely against vs and our Religion here in the midst of London to our selues and one to another to our owne faces as thogh they were in the verie middle of Rome or Seuil very farre from the pittilesse fiers of those hot Countries where they burn without remission not only such as speak the least word I doe not say against God for they let them alone but against the Pope for that is the greater sinne yea euen against those they can by any meanes discouer to haue had at any time any thought or bee able afterwards to haue it against him Onely all you may complaine of is that yee haue not as free and as publike exer●ise as we of the rites of your Religion And yet in some sort haue yee it by hooke and by crooke or by a soueraigne transcendency of grace so much haue euer all Magistrates of our Religion abhorred extreame execution of the lawes but being forced thereunto by violent attempts For shame therefore be contented Enioy peaceably that liberty which you may buy so cheape and rather loue the certaine quietnesse of your present estate then the incertitude of another which sure cannot be but troublesome Force not by an vnnatural rebelliou● wilfulnesse in so iust in so lawfull a matter your naturall and most gracious King to be most vnvnwillingly and with a great griefe to h●s heart more sharp against you then the sweet inclination and meeknes of his royall nature will beare I conclude with an addition to your further encouragement of some decrees d cided and set downe two hundred yeres agoe by the verie same Sorbonne against that false doctrine and such as seemed then to broach it a new whom they neuer failed to condemne and caused them publikely to aske pardon and make satisfaction as Frier Iohn Sarazin Iohn Tanquarell Florentin Iacob Thomas de Blanzy and sundrie others at sundry times did Which decrees yet now of late they haue caused againe to bee printed by their owne Printer Felix de Blanuile in S. Victors streete in Paris and bound together with this present booke with this title Of the power and supremacie of the Pope Against the Sectaries of this age Repeating once more the diffinition of the Church as it is set downe in the title page of this booke to point as it were with the finger that both sprung together out of one the same fountaine Whereby you may see how carefull they haue euer beene to dash the young ones of Babilon against the right rocke of the truth The decrees are these after a long rehearsall of the cause and ceremonies of Sarrazins recantation in presence of the Rector of the Vniuersity and whole scores of Doctors there named one by one as witnesses THat all powers of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction other then that of the Pope are from Christ himselfe in as much as concerneth primary institution and collation but from the Pope and from the Church for limitation and ministeriall dispensation onely That those powers are of diuine right and immediatly ordeined by God That we finde in the Scripture that Christ hath founded his church and expresly ordained other powers differing from that of the Pope That whensoeuer any matters bee ordained in a Councel the whole authoritie which giueth force to the decrees doth reside not in the Pope onely and alone but principally in the holy Ghost and the Catholike Church That by the text of the Scripture and doctrine of the Apostles wee see directly that authoritie of iurisdiction was conferred vpon the Apostles and Disciples when Christ did send them forth That the power of Iurisdiction of inferiour Prelates either Bishops or Curates is immediatly from God according to the doctrine of the Gospell and the Apostles That there is some power that is the power of the Church which of right and incertaine cases can decree against the Pope That any man liuing of whatsoeuer title authority dignity or preeminence hee may be euen though hee were a Pope if onely he haue the vse of reason may commit Simony Finally most heartily intreating you to take in the best part of this my louing