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Fathers then vsed for convincing of Heretickes to wit the holie Scriptures but also in these ancient Heretickes is seene the true picture of our new Romanistes who when they are in lyke-manner convinced by Scripture they fall out lyke-wyse into the accusation of the Scriptures that they are not rightlie translated by vs and are not of sufficient authoritie of themselues without the Churches declaration that they are also ambiguous and obscure and that the trueth in all poynts of Doctrine can not be had out of them without vnwritten Tradition bringing also for the mayntayning thereof this same place of Scripture adduced by these ancient Heretickes The same doeth Tertu●●ian lykewyse testifie of the Heretickes in his tyme who would not graunt sayeth hee that the Apostles revealed all thinges to all men but some thinges they taught secretlie and to a few even as Bellarmine speaketh which were to bee preserved from age to age by vnwritten Tradition for which cause the Apostle sayeth to TIMOTHIE O Timothie keepe that which was committed to thee The Author also of that Booke de Vnitate Ecclesie thought to bee Waltram Bishop of Na●●●rg showeth that this ●aven sp●ed most and prevayled in the Romane Church w●en the Papacie came to an hight in Hildibrandes tyme about the yeare 1072 by the monasticall sort of that age of whom hee beeing living in that same age sayeth That despysing these doctrines that are of GOD to wit in holie Scripture they affect other doctrines sayeth hee and bringeth in into the Church commandementes of humane institution And agayne hee showeth why they suffered not their Novices as they ought to exercise themselues diligentlie in Scripture to wit that their vnpolished myndes might bee fedde with the huskes of Devils which are sayeth hee the customes of the traditions of men And which thing was so farre contratie to the ancient custome vsed at first in Monasteries that their owne Duarenus testifieth they were nothing else but Seminaries of Divinitie wherein they studied sayeth hee diligentlie the Scriptures and out of which as out of a Seminarie these were chosen and taken out for vndergoing Ecclesiasticall charges who were amongst them of best lyfe and learning Whence it is lyke-wyse that venerable Beda testifieth that this was the exercyse of those who were in that Famous and Religious Monasterie of our Land called Colmekill to wit that they might onelie learne these Doctrines which were in the Propheticall Evangelicall and Apostolicall Scriptures sayeth hee Which thing is farre different from the Doctrine of the Romane Church now who teacheth that the Scripture is the least part of revealed trueth and the farre greater part of the Gospell is come to vs by vnwritten tradition as sayeth Hosi●s of which sort Petrus à Soto granteth these to bee to wit the sacrifice of the Masse invocation of Saynctes the Popes Supremacie Prayers for the Dead the fiue Sacramentes beside Baptisme and the LORD'S Supper Wherevnto their Canisius joyneth worshipping of Images and their Bishop L●ndan●● addeth Transubstantiation the Communion vnder one kynde Indulgences and Purgatorie so that by their owne confession the mayne bodie of Poperie is not built vpon the sure foundation of Propheticall and Apostolicke writ as on the Rocke but vpon the sandie and vnsure foundation of pretended vnwritten tradition CHAPT. IV. That these Doctrines of Fayth for which the Romanistes pretende onlie vnwritten tradition as their warrand are not onelie beside but also plainly contrarie to the written word by their own confession and so can not bee but the latter sowne Popple in the Lord's Field BELLARMINE in his fourth Booke of the Word of God professeth in the name of all Romanistes saying That such traditions as are repugnant to Scripture we never doe defende sayth hee seeing there-fore hee renounceth such and abdicateth them both from his profession and patrocinie Let VS inquyre concerning some poynts of Poperie by their owne confession whether they bee Babels babes or the brood of such a bastard birth And first wee know that publicke prayer and performing of divine worship in an vnknowne tongue to the People is a doctrine and practise of Poperie having no ground but vnwritten tradition But if it bee asked whether this bee agreeable to Scripture 1. COR. 14. or contrarie thereto their owne Cardinall Cajetane on that place will tell vs saying By this doctrine of S. Paull it is to bee helde that it is farre better for the edifying of the Church that publicke prayers which are vttered in the hearing of the people bee said in a language common and knowne both to the Clergie and people And agayne sayth their owne Benedictus Montanus altho the Apostle would haue prayers sayde in a language that is vnderstood yet notwithstanding it is to bee helde that the Church to wit of Rome for most just causes hath decreed and ordayned the contrarie Heere then wee see that the Romane Church can decree clean contrarie to the doctrine of the written Word Agayne wee know that the prohibition of people to reade the Scriptures is a doctrine and practise of Poperie having no warrand but the Churches tradition but if it bee asked whether this bee agreeable to Scripture or no and especiallie to COLOSS. 3. 16 their owne Bishop Espenceus will tell vs saying It is manifest by the doctrine of the Apostle to the Colossians 3. 4. and by the practise of the Church sayeth hee that of olde the vse of the Scriptures was permitted to the people Therefore sayeth the Iesuit Azorius wee confesse that in S. Ierome and Chrysostomes tymes the Laicke people were exercysed in reading of the Scriptures because they were written in these Languages which they did vnderst●d and so sayeth also their Alfonsus à Castro Agrippa and others Lyke-wyse wee know That the making the Image of GOD the Father after the likenesse of an olde man is a doctrine and practise of Poperie having no warrand but the tradition of the Romane Church But if it bee asked whether this bee agreeable to Scripture EXOD. 20. 4. and DEVT. 4. 15. a clowde of witnesses of their owne Doctors will tell vs the contrarie as Bellarmin● confesseth Abulensis to bee Durand and Perésius to whom wee may joyne also the late Iesuit Vasquez and others Wherefore Iohannes Ragusius in his Oration at the Councell of Basil is forced to confesse That altho in the olde Law the visible Images of GOD and of his Saynctes were forbidden by the Law of GOD and no libertie was graunted since eyther in the Olde or New Testament to make anie such yet the Church taught forsooth by the holie Ghost sayeth hee hath not onelie permitted but decreed and ordayned the contrarie Where wee may see a strange libertie assumed by the Church and a farre stranger inspiration of her by the holie Ghost hee to bee contrarie to himselfe and shee to trangresse GOD'S expresse command in Scripture by his
it is most evident that GOD is to bee prayed vnto sayeth hee yea GOD onelie as the authour of all good giftes 11. Wee say that after this ly●e t●ere is Heaven prepared for the godlie who die in the LORD and Hell fo the wicked who die not in the LORD Bell. l. 1. de Purg. c. 12. §. resp ad li●eram and so sayeth BELLARMINE Calling the South whereinto the tree is sayde to fall in ECCLESIASTES H●aven and by the North that Hell is vnderstood 12. Last of all in a word wee belieue the holie Trinitie and whole Articles of the Creede which contayne the whole summe of the Christian fayth so that heere by the Antiquitie of our doctrine and Religion and in all the fore-named positiue poynts thereof may bee clea●lie seene beside which what-so-ever doctrines of fayth since haue beene vented and invented in Pope●ie as the l●tter supersemination of Tares is branded with that Apostolicall Anathema and is to bee rejected Therefore for our part wee say with Vincentius Lyrinensis Let that vessell of election to wit PAVLL crye and that teacher of the Nations and that trumpet of the Apostles that preacher of the World and who had knowledge of the verie Heavens Let him I say crye and crye over and over agayne and vnto all men and ever and everie where let him by his letters proclayme If anie man shall teach anie doctrine of fayth which is new let him bee accursed AN ANSWERE Then 1. to that vsuall and customable Question Whereby the Romanistes aske vs where was our Religion before Luther HAving therefore ininstanced the positiue poynts of our doctrine which are the verie foundamentall poyntes of Christian Religion helde ever and mayntayned as truethes in the verie bosome of the Romane Church even vnto this day as is cleare by their former confessions wee see how easie it is to answere to their vulgar question whereby they aske where was our Religion before Luther Indeede as that woman descrybed in the REVELATION Thorow the furie and crueltie of that red Dragon was driven for a●time into the Wildernesse which the R●emistes themselues expone to bee the true Churches lurking for a season in time of persecution so this hath beene the condition of the professoures of the trueth sundrie tymes to bee brought to a verie few number and by persecution made lyke-wyse to lurke in the tyme of errou●es p●evayling Hier● dialogadv● which wee may see clearlie in that tyme whereof S. IEROME speaketh when the whole world groaned Luciferianos Athanasius ad so litariā vitam agētes and wondred that it was turned Arrian and of which tyme Athanasius thus complaineth What Church now doeth freelie worship sayeth hee seeing if it bee holie and true it lyeth vnder manie dangers and if there bee in anie place faythfull servantes of CHRIST as there bee yet they are hid Stapleton l. 2. princip. do●ctrina lium c 18. Pererius in Dan. l 15. in 〈◊〉 veniet tēpus Abbas in Revel. ● 2. lyke that great Prophet ELIAS So that the profession of the Orthodoxe fayth sayeth Stapleton was then but with a few and those lyke-wyse living in exyle As also the verie Romanistes themselues giue vs to vnderstand that the same shall bee the estate of the true Church in the time of their pretended Antichrist to wit that then the true worship sayeth their Iesuit Pereriu● shall bee onelie in private and the whole Congregation of of the godlie shall bee hid sayth Ioachim Abbas For so shall the Elect bee wyse vnto themselues that they shall not presume to practise openlie because that darknesse shall prevayle and as the Rhemistes affirme Rhem annot in 2. Thess. 2. 3. The externall ●ate of the Romane Church and publicke intercourse of the sayth●ull with it is lyke to ceasse and the communion of Christians with the fame shall bee onelie in heart say they and their worship in private There●ore what was the estate of true Religion and the pro●essoures thereof in the time of Arrianisme prevayling or to bee ●n the tyme of their pretended Antichrists prevayling it were ●ot absurde for vs to say that the ●ame was the estate of true Religion and professoures thereof in the tyme of the prevayling of Poperie which wee count Antithristianisme But yet to come nearer them in answering to this question wee say that as it is easie to answere fit were asked in lyke-manner Where were GOD'S people before they came out of BABELL Revel 18. 4● by replying thus that they were even in BABELL it selfe even so our Religion which consisteth in the mayne positiue poyntes forenamed and wherein wee agree the same was in the bosome of the Romane Church it selfe as hath beene showne helde by the Doctoures thereof and preached and preserved by them in the verie tyme of erroures greatest prevayling the same beeing in their mouthes as the vncorrupted text of the Law and sound doctrine of the Iewish religion in manie thinges conforme thereto was in the mouthes of the Scrybes and Pharisees who in that respect were sayde to sit in Moses Chayre and the people were commanded by our SAVIOVR to heare them But in so farre as those Pharisees lyke the Romanistes joyned their owne traditions to the Law of GOD teaching them for doctrines and put false Glosses vpon the Law it selfe in that respect our SAVIOVR declared ●●em to be blinde guydes and wil●●d all men to beware of the leaven ●f their false doctrine Agayne if they aske in these ●oyntes wheerein wee disagree ●nd oppose them where was our ●eligion before Luther wee an●were that the same was pro●●ssed taught and mayntayned ●y the Romane Church her selfe ● her purer integritie and by the ●●ncient Fathers both in the ●reeke and Latine Church and ●anie of their owne latter Do●oures who lived manie hun●reth yeares long before Lu●●er The particular places are noted and the words set down after as 1. That the Bookes of APORYPHA are not Canoni●k●●cripture not onelie doeth Atha●asius Hilarie Ruffinus and ●amascen declare b●t also S. ●rome and with him Lyra telleth ●s That the whole Church in ●hose tymes helde so long before ●uther 2. That all doctrines of fayth ●nd manners necessarie to salvation are contayned in Scripture the particular poynts of doctrine handled orderlie as they lye in the first part of this Treatise and in the witnes sing of Antiquitie subj●yned in everie poynt to the without vnwritten traditions Athanasius and Augustine with dyverse others haue taught long before Luther 3. That the Scripture is plaine in all thinges necessarie to salvation and therefore should bee read by the people and nowayes with-holden from them Augustine Chrysostome Theodoret with sundrie others mayntayned this long before Luther 4. That the true Church or number of Orthodox professours hath beene redacted sometymes to a verie few who haue beene made to lurke for a tyme because of cruell persecution S. Ierome Ambrose and Athanasius haue demonstrate long before
inspiration More-over wee know that the giving of the Communion to the people vnder one kynde onelie is a doctrine and practise of Popeperie having no warrand for it but the tradition and authoritie of the Romane Church but if it bee asked whether this bee agreeable to Scripture or no the Councell of Constance all in one voyce will tell vs the contrarie and confesse that neyther was it so in CHRIST'S institution set downe in holie Scripture nor was it the practise of the Apostles or of the primitiue Church but is brought in later for such reasons as the Church of Rome thought good For so sayeth the Councell Albeit CHRIST after Supper did institute this venerable Sacrament and gaue it to His Disciples vnder both kynds of bread wine As also tho in lyke-manner this Sacrament was receaved by the faythfull vnder both kyndes Notwithstanding there-of this custome for eschewing of certayne dangers and scandalls that might ensue vpon good reason is now brought in that the same shall bee receaved by Laickes vnder one kynde onelie Where wee see that the Church of Rome thinketh her selfe wyser and more provident in fore-seeing of dangers than CHRIST His Apostles and the primitiue Church was and that lyke the Pharisees and Scrybes of olde by her traditions shee hath made the word of GOD to bee of no effect CHAPTER V. That these Doctrines of Fayth for which the Romanistes pretende onlie vnwritten Tradition by their owne confession are neyther necessarie nor profitable to salvation and consequentlie not onelie superfluous but vnjustlie vrged to bee believed vpon danger of salvation CArdinall Bellarmine in his fourth Booke of the Word of GOD confesseth that the Apostles did preach vnto GOD'S people all these thinges which were necessarie and profitable vnto them sayeth hee vnto their salvation But what they preached so to all that also they wrote and left registrate in Scripture for so sayeth Bellarmsne in lyke-manner I affirme that all these thinges were written by the Apostles sayeth hee which are necessarie for all men and which they publicklie preached to all Therefore it followeth that in the Apostles writs are contayned all thinges which are necessarie and profitable to salvation But to subsume These doctrinall Traditions whereon is grounded the mayne bodie of Poperie were not written by the Apostles as is confessed Therefore it followeth that the same are neyther necessarie nor profitable to salvation and so wee see what doome their owne mouthes by the force of trueth are made to pronounce vpon these vnwritten Doctrines and Traditions and consequentlie how vnju●●lie they are obt●uded vpon Gods people Next I a●gue What the Apostles did preach vnto all as necessarie and profitable vnto salvation and which S. PAVLL calleth else where the whole councell of GOD that onelie should their successoures teach vnto all as necessarie and profitable vnto salvation But the Apostles as is confessed did preach nothing vnto all as necessarie and profitable vnto salvation but that which is written in holie Scripture vnder the payne of that curse denounced by S. Paull GAL. 1. 8. Therefore nothing should bee taught by true Pastors as their successoures vnto all as necessarie and profitable vnto salvation but that which is written in holie Scripture Where-fore sayeth Augustine if wee or an Angell from Heaven preach vnto you any thing beside that which yee haue receaved in the Legall and Evangelicall Scriptures let him bee accursed As also sayeth their Aquinas It is to bee affirmed that no other thing ought to bee preached but that onelie which is contayned in the Gospells and Epistles and in the holie Scripture playnlie or more obscurelie Whosoever then teacheth for doctrines of fayth anie vnwritten traditions neyther contayned in holie Scripture playnlie nor obscurelie as Canus affirmeth most poynts of their doctrine to bee it followeth that hee is no true teacher nor successour to the Apostles but controlling Scripture and deserting their practise hee declareth himselfe to bee an impostor guiltie of prophane Noveltie a sower of Tares in the LORD'S Field and will-fullie to incurre that Apostolicall Anathema CHAPTER VI Of the Noveltie of withholding the people from reading of the Scripture FIrst then omitting Testimonies of Scripture formerlie set downe which make for this poynt I come to the Testimonie of one of their late and famous Bishops Espenceus by name whereby hee witnesseth That this with-holding of Scripture from the people was neyther in the Apostles tyme or agreeable to their doctrine nor yet was it in the tyme of the primitiue Church whose practise was contrarie to their now-a-dayes his wordes then are these It is manifest sayeth hee by the doctrine of the Apostle COLOSS. 3. 16. and by the practise of the primitiue Church that of olde the publicke reading of the Scripture was permitted to people Whence it was that Chrysostome in his tyme did vehementlie vrge the same vpon his auditors saying I beseech you all that are Laickes that yee get Bibles to your selues the medicine of the soule and if yee will not get more get to your selues the New Testament at least And agayne hee sayeth What is it then that wee so earnestlie requyre of you but that one of the dayes of the weeke or at least vpon the Sabbath day yee would haue a care to reade the Gospells which before yee come to these Sermons ye haue amongst your handes at home and that yee would frequentlie repeate the same and diligentlie search out the meaning and note what is cleare and what is ●bscure therein By doing whereof he showeth what good will redound both to him who was their teacher and to them who were his heare●s to wit that hee should neede the lesse labour and paynes to make them vnderstand the meaning of the Gospell when at home they haue made the Text samiliare to themselues and they also should thereby bee made the more sha●pe and quicke in vnderstanding not onlie onelie to heare and perceaue what is sayde vnto them but also to teach others And if anie should pleade the want of scarcitie of Bookes hee showeth concerning this that it were ridiculous to answere these who were rich and as for the poore sort hee showeth also that it is a shame to them to want the Scripture which can afford so great profit to them as their soules instruction and yet carefullie to acquire such tooles or instruments as their severall Trades requyred for winning their bodilie Foode but if anie bee so poore sayeth hee that by no meanes hee can acquire Bookes ●o himselfe then by the continuall reading of the Scriptures which is in this place hee needeth not to bee ignorant of anie thing that is therein Which thing made the I●suit Azortus to say Wee confesse that in the tymes of Ierome and Chrysostome which was 400 yeares and aboue after CHRIST that the Laickes were exercysed in reading of the Scripture because they were written in these Languages
onelie given him for the dignitie of the Citie beeing the imperiall seat The third generall Councell that giveth evidence of Romes Innovation heerein is that Famous Councell of Ephesus of 200 Bishops celebrate in Anno 434 resolutelie thus decreeing Let it be observed say they in all Provinces and Diocesses that no Bishop draw vnder his subjection anie province which was not his from the beginning lest vnder pretence of Priesthood hee bring into the Church arrogancie and pryde The last but not the least evidence of the Noveltie of this Papall vsurped supremacie is that of the Famous and fourth Councell of Chalcedon of 430 Bishops and helde Anno 451 decreeing peremptotilie that how-so-ever the Bishop of Rome had the primacie of place before the Bishop of Constantinople yet that the Bishop of Constantinople in all other thinges should bee equall and haue alyke priviledges with the Bishop of Rome Now wee know that the equalitie of power priviledges betweene two dissolveth ipso facto Monarchie which can not bee but in one as the verie word importeth This sacred Conncell and the Act thereof so galleth the romaenistes that forgetting all pretended reverence to Antiquitie and authoritie of auncient Councells Bellarmine spareth not to impute to these godlie Bishops fraude and deceat saying They decreed this indeed but not sayth he without fraude and guyle Which as sayeth Lyrinensis What is this else but to treade vnder foot the decrees of the holy Bishops almost of the whole Easterne Church for preventing so wyselie pronounci●g so clearlie opposing so stoutlie and decreeing so piouslie agaynst ani● such Noveltie of the new Romane Hierarchie CHAPT. IX The Novelty of the Popes Supremacie which hee claymeth over Princes as well as Prelates and in thinges temporall HEEREIN in these two poynts the Novation standeth made by the Bishops of Rome 1. in subducing their neckes from that homage and subjection which they yeelded of olde to the Emperours as their dread Soveraygnes and 2. in reducing them to such subjection vnder th●m that they haue troden vpon some of their neckes First then for witnessing of the Bishops of Rome their homage and subj●ction which from the beginning and of olde they gaue to the Emperours Bell●●mine himselfe will instruct vs speaking of that tyme which was manie hundreth yeares after the Apostles saying At that tyme al●ho the Bish●p of Rome in spirituall thinges was the head of all even of Empe●●●res themselues yet in temporall thinges hee was subject to the Emperoures sayeth hee and because hee acknowledged the Emperour to bee his temporall Lord therefore hee made supplication to him that hee would command a Councell to bee conveaned Whence it is that Cardinall Cusanu● declareth That the eyght first generall Councells were convocate by the Emperoures and no wayes by the Popes in so much that Pope Leo with much intreat●e desired to Theodosius that a Councell might bee celebrate in Italie and yee could not obtayne it Gregorie●yke-wyse the great everie where in his Epistles to the Emperour Mauritius styleth him his supreame Lord Soveraigne and wryting vnto him concerning his imperiall command that hee should cause publish a certayne Law which Gregorie thought vnjust hee sayeth I as the most vnworthie servand of your sacred Majestie beeing subject to obey your command I haue caused sende your Law which yee haue made thorow sundrie parts to bee published and because the same is nowayes agreeable to the Law of Almightie GOD Beholde I haue by my letter signified the same to my most excelle●t Lord there-fore everie way I haue performed what I ought to doe who hath both given ●●edience to the Emperour and haue not beene silent in that which I thought fit to speake for GOD And yet in a more humble manner doeth Agatho the first profesie his subjection to the Emperour supplicating in th●se wordes Bowing humblie the knees of the mynde wee intreate your royall Clemencie Where-with also Adrian the first joyneth the prostration of the bodie saying Prost●ate vpon the ground and ●alling downe grooflinges at the soles of your feete doe I intreate your Majestie Thus wee see that servitude and subjection with prostration and humble supplicating was the auncient practise and profession of the Bishops of Rome to the Romane Emperoures manie hundreth yeares after CHRIST till in place of humilitie Luciferian pryde was installed in seat of Antichrist The next poynt of Innovation is the reducing of Emperours and Kings by the Bishops of Rome vnto their subjection and dominiering so over them as to inthrone or dethrone them at their pleasure as BELLARMINE de facto instanceth to haue beene done to Emperoures and King's and yet that the auncient Bishops of Rome never vsurped such power nor vsed such practises agaynst eyther Hea●hen Hereticall or Apostate Emperoures Bellarmine himselfe clearlie acknowledgeth The particular tyme then when the Noveltie of this vsurpation began to peepe out their owne Charter Monke author of that booke intituled Fascic●lus temporum telleth vs That it was in the dayes of Boniface the second Anno 523 for remarke sayeth hee that about this tyme the Popes began to oppose themselues to the Emperoures even in temporall thinges farre more than of olde they were wont Thereafter their owne Bishop Otho Frigensis condescendeth vpon the verie tyme of putting this vsurpation first into practise showing that Gregori●● the seaventh was the first who deposed anie Emperour so that till 1060 yeares after CHRIST this bolde Noveltie began not to bee practised Therefore sayeth their owne Barclay For the space of a thousand yeares and more altho the Church did flowrish with all wealth and that there was also a great number of the wicked Princes and Tyrants yet none of the auncient Fathers or Orthodox w●yters in these tymes are found sayeth hee who either by word or writ taught anie such thing And when it began to bee practised Sigebert the Monke who lived in the ●leventh hundreth yeare of CHRIST and tyme of Gregorie the seaventh sayeth thereof Let it bee spoken with leaue of all good men sayeth hee that this NOVELTIE I will not say Heresie before this time was ever hatched or peeped out in the world And last to put on the kepstone of Antichristian pryde and Tyran●ious vsurpation the Author of Fasciculus Temporum telleth vs that Beniface the eyght rose vp to that hight of pryde sayeth hee that hee called himselfe Lord of the whole world as well in temporall as in spirituall things as if Kings onelie did reygne by them and with the Tempter they might dispose of the Kingdomes of the Earth to giue them to whom they will Who-so-ever then they bee who may so clearlie see the Noveltie of this vsurpation and yet so highlie advance the Bishop of Rome as onelie that they make him not GOD sayeth their owne Cassander and who extolleth his authoritie to bee not onelie aboue the whole Church as well in
Cardinall Cusanus Where●ore Theodores telleth vs clearlie That the mysticall signes after consecration departe not f●om their owne nature but remayne in their former substance figure and forme and may bee seene and touched as before Yea their owne Pope Gelaesius wryting agaynst Eutyches sayeth expreslie That tho in the Sacrament wee receaue a divyne thing to wit the Bodie and Blood of CHRIST yet the substance and nature of the bread and wine ceasseth not to remaine sayeth hee And if anie speaches of Fathers would seeme to sound other ways their owne Cassander telleth vs That the late Schoole men doe acknowledge these speaches to bee figuratiue whereby the signe is called by the name of the thing which is signified and is present also in the Sacrament So that justlie sayde the elder Schoolemen as Suarez reporteth of them that the doctrine of Transsubstantiation is not verie ancient This errour then was first broached in the East by Damascene in the time of Gregori● the third Anno 740 and opposed then chiefelie by the Councell of Constantinople consisting of 338 Bishops Anno 754 who declared That the bread in the Eucharist was the true resemblance of Christs naturall bodie and consequentlie not the bodie it selfe About an hundreth yeares there-after in the tyme of Gregorie the fourth the same also began to bee propounded in the West by one Amularius Bishop of Lions who was censured and opposed by the Councell of Carifiacum wherein it was declared by the Bishops of France That it was to bee vnderstood that the bread and wine were the bodie and blood of CHRIST after a spirituall manner onelie Heere-after howsoever sundrie helde this grosse opinion of Transsubstantiation Paschasius Radbertus a Deacon Anno 850 who to that purpose wrote a Booke to Placidus of the bodie and blood of CHRIST yet others stoutlie mayntayned the trueth in the contrarie as Rabin●s M●●rus who at the same tyme opposed Paschasi●s and w●o●e thereof to Abb●t Egilo whereby arose great disputes by sundrie vpon both sides wherevpon Carol●s Calvus then King of FRANCE willing to haue these differences composed amongst his people and the trueth of the matter cleared singled out one Bertram a Priest and M●nke of Corbey as * a man m●st famous in those tymes both for learning and pietie and req●yred him to wryte to him his judgement in that matter which hee accordinglie did in his booke yet extant written Anno 876 wherein hee declareth and proveth That the bread and wine are Christs bodie and blood figuratiuelie onelie or by representation according to the na●ure of Sacramentes and sacramentall speaches taking so the name of that which they signifi● but for the substance of the creatures or elementes themselues they are the same after consecration as they were before sayeth hee for which cause the Romanis●es in the Belgicke expurgatorie Index wish that this Booke had altogether perished the Iesuit Turrian giving the reason thereof Because the citing of it declareth that Calvine's Heresie is not new About which tyme also of Bertrams wryting a famous countrey-man of ours also Iohannes Scotus wrote a * booke of the same matter and to the same sense who for his extraordinarie great learning in those tymes was surnamed Iohn the wyse And in ENGLAND in the dayes of Aeifricke an Abbot Anno 975 there was an auncient Homilie which the sayde Aelfricke at the command of W●lfstane Arch-bishop of Yorke translated out of Latine and Sax●n into Engl●sh synodicallie appoynted to bee read to the people for their instruction at everie Easter before the receaving of the holie Housell as he calleth the Sacrament wherein the verie same doctrine set downe by Bertram and professed now by vs is clearlie set downe as the sayde Homilie at large may bee seene in Master Iohn Foxe his Booke of Martyres Yet at last errour in the times of ignorance and Papall vsurpation so farre prevailed that Anno 1215 it was established as an Article of fayth so that as Scotus affirmeth truelie before the Councell of Laterane it was no doctrine of fayth sayeth hee CHAPTER XIX The Noveltie of halfe Communion or with-holding the Cuppe from the people FOR the cleare detection of the Noveltie of this sacrilegious errour first their owne Canonized Aquinas and with him Lyra and others declare according to the custome of the auncient Church all the people as they did communicate of the bodie of Christ so did they also of His blood sayeth hee And if wee aske at their owne Cassander how long this custome did continue in the Church of Christ hee will tell vs saying It is sufficientlie certayne that the vniversall Church of Christ even vnto this day did celebrate the Sacrament vnder both kyndes and that the Westerne or Romane Church more than a thousand yeares after Christ chiefelie in the solemne and ordinarie celebration of this Sacrament did giue the same in both kyndes both of breade and wine to all the members of the Church of Christ which is manifest sayeth hee out of the innumerable Testimonies both of Greeke and Latine Fathers And if then wee inquyre when this custome of communicating in one kynde began in the Romane Church generallie to be receaved their owne Gregorte de Valentia in lyke-manner will tell vs That it was but a little before the Councell of Constance which was helde in ●nno 1414. There-after if wee come to the Councell of Constance it selfe where it was first decreed and inquyre of the Noveltie thereof they are forced to confesse that Christ instituted this venerable Sacrament in both kyndes of bread and wine gaue it so to His Disciples say they as also that in the primitiue Church the same was receaved by the faythfull in both kynds and that for eschewing some perills and scandalls this custome was thought fit to bee altered Next after the cleare and confessed Noveltie of this poynt both in altering and mayntayning of Christs institution if wee will examine out of their owne confessions whether it bee best to adheare to Christs institution who gaue it in both kyndes or not Bellarmine will teach vs a generall rule saying It can not bee doubted of but that is best sayth hee and most fit to bee done which Christ Himselfe did But to subsume Christ gaue the Sacrament of His bodie and blood vnder both kyndes therefore inevitablie it followeth that without doubt it is fittest and best to giue it as yet in both kyndes Wherefore in expresse wordes not onelie did Ruardus Tapperus Deane of Lovane say that it were better and more covenient to giue it so as beeing more agreeable to the institution of Christ His example and Fathers of the primiti● Church but also their owne Cassander setteth downe the particular and pregnant reasons why it is better to giue it so vnder both kyndes and why the primitiue Church ever so gaue it I. because of the institution and example of