in_o the_o first_o age_n st._n ambrose_n st._n jerom_n and_o st._n austin_n be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n and_o yet_o not_o baptize_v until_o tâ—eful_a age_n of_o a_o man_n and_o more_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptise_v any_o child_n be_v not_o at_o all_o report_v by_o any_o credible_a tradition_n the_o other_o be_v mr._n bazter_n baxter_n mr._n baxter_n a_o evidence_n that_o in_o this_o case_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v who_o be_v please_v to_o tell_v we_o in_o a_o very_a late_a piece_n viz._n his_o principle_n of_o love_n p_o 7._o that_o he_o know_v that_o in_o the_o day_n of_o tertullian_n nazienzen_n and_o austin_n man_n have_v liberty_n to_o be_v baptize_v or_o to_o bring_v their_o child_n when_o and_o at_o what_o age_n they_o please_v and_o that_o none_o be_v force_v to_o go_v against_o their_o conscience_n therein_o and_o that_o he_o know_v not_o that_o our_o rule_n or_o religion_n be_v change_v or_o that_o we_o be_v grow_v any_o wise_a or_o better_a than_o they_o and_o again_o christian_n direct_v p._n 827._o thus_o that_o ancient_a christian_n have_v liberty_n to_o let_v their_o child_n stay_v till_o age_n as_o they_o think_v best_a and_o that_o austin_n and_o many_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n be_v baptize_v at_o age_n and_o upon_o the_o whole_a we_o may_v add_v what_o doctor_n barlow_n barlow_n dr._n barlow_n say_v to_o this_o purpose_n pag._n 64._o i_o be_o sure_a that_o in_o the_o primative_a time_n they_o be_v catechumeni_fw-la then_o illuminati_fw-la or_o baptizati_fw-la and_o that_o not_o only_o pagan_n and_o child_n of_o pagan_n convert_v but_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n also_o thus_o we_o have_v go_v through_o our_o first_o four_o century_n and_o the_o proof_n urge_v to_o this_o point_n of_o history_n from_o they_o and_o therein_o i_o hope_v the_o reader_n will_v full_o acquit_v i_o from_o that_o charge_n of_o prevarication_n in_o pervert_v the_o authority_n bring_v by_o i_o to_o witness_v that_o in_o these_o time_n confession_n and_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v hold_v necessary_a to_o precede_v baptism_n divert_v that_o only_o the_o adult_n baptize_v in_o the_o first_o age_n confirm_v by_o divert_v and_o that_o i_o be_o not_o mistake_v nor_o alone_o in_o my_o apprehension_n herein_o i_o shall_v repeat_v a_o few_o both_o of_o the_o ancient_n and_o modern_a writer_n that_o have_v so_o full_o confirm_v the_o truth_n hereof_o affirm_v with_o much_o positiveness_n that_o only_a the_o adult_n upon_o confession_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n in_o these_o first_o time_n walafrid_n strabo_n strabo_n strabo_n in_o rebus_n eccles_n p._n 26._o that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o only_o who_o be_v come_v to_o that_o integrity_n of_o mind_n and_o body_n that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o beget_v by_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v and_o last_o what_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o they_o that_o be_v new_a bear_v in_o christ_n beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la in_o anotat_fw-la sup_v tertull._n say_v that_o the_o old_a custom_n be_v that_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o their_o full_a growth_n be_v baptize_v with_o the_o bath_n of_o regeneration_n which_o custom_n he_o say_v continue_v for_o some_o of_o the_o first_o age_n rupertus_n rupertus_n rupertus_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o divine_a office_n cap._n 18._o say_v that_o in_o former_a time_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o primative_a church_n be_v that_o they_o administer_v not_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n but_o only_o to_o the_o chatecuman_n who_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n rehearse_v the_o same_o jo._n boemus_n boemus_fw-la boemus_fw-la lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr gent._n mor._n it_o be_v in_o time_n past_a say_v he_o the_o custom_n to_o administer_v baptism_n only_o to_o those_o that_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n doctor_n hamond_n hamond_n dr._n hamond_n in_o his_o cat._n lib._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 23._o say_v that_o all_o man_n be_v instruct_v in_o the_o fundamental_o of_o faith_n ancient_o before_o they_o be_v permit_v to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n baxter_n baxter_n mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o saint_n rest_v part_n 1._o cap._n 8._o sect._n 5._o say_v that_o tertullian_n origen_n and_o cyprian_a who_o live_v in_o the_o 2._o and_o 3._o century_n do_v all_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o primative_a time_n none_o be_v baptise_a without_o a_o express_a covenant_v wherein_o they_o renounce_v the_o world_n flesh_n and_o devil_n and_o engage_v themselves_o and_o promise_v to_o obey_v he_o baptism_n the_o testimony_n for_o adult_n baptism_n after_o infant_n baptism_n be_v enjoin_v 1._o from_o particular_a person_n 1._o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n in_o the_o next_o place_n for_o further_a confirmation_n of_o this_o truth_n i_o give_v you_o in_o some_o testimony_n that_o be_v bear_v thereto_o after_o infant_n baptism_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o five_o century_n and_o that_o not_o only_o from_o those_o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n but_o from_o those_o that_o own_a and_o practise_v it_o papist_n and_o other_o through_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o century_n of_o the_o first_o i_o produce_v several_a eminent_a man_n as_o particular_a witness_n some_o of_o which_o i_o shall_v mention_v viz_o crescon_n crescon_n cresconius_n pag._n 230._o who_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a baptism_n but_o such_o as_o be_v administer_v after_o faith_n faustus_n faustus_n faustus_n regienses_n pag._n 230._o that_o personal_a and_o actual_a desire_n be_v requisite_a in_o every_o one_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v albanus_n albanus_n albanus_n who_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o his_o witness_n hereto_o p._n 230._o these_o eminent_a people_n call_v swermer_n swermer_n the_o swermer_n in_o the_o six_o century_n that_o from_o christ_n example_n of_o baptism_n reprove_v the_o evil_a custom_n of_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 231_o apamen_n bishop_n of_o apamen_n the_o bishop_n of_o apamen_n and_o zoroaras_n who_o do_v defend_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v the_o only_a baptism_n pag._n 231._o adrianus_n adrianus_n adrianus_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n in_o the_o 7._o century_n who_o do_v stout_o defend_v believer_n baptism_n not_o permit_v a_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o diocese_n page_n 231._o hinemar_n hinemar_n hinemarus_fw-la bishop_n of_o laudum_fw-la refuse_v infant_n baptize_v only_a believer_n 235._o the_o egyptian_a divine_n divine_n egyptian_a divine_n in_o the_o seven_o century_n teach_v faâ—th_n before_o baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o romish_a baptism_n p._n 232._o carolus_n carolus_n carolus_n bishop_n of_o maylant_a teach_v that_o only_a such_o as_o be_v instruct_v and_o confess_v faith_n and_o manifest_v a_o holy_a life_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n roor_n jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n own_v only_o that_o baptism_n that_o christ_n command_v after_o teach_v and_o believe_v and_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v also_o practice_v and_o which_o say_v he_o must_v needs_o be_v after_o believe_v bâ—cause_fw-mi it_o be_v for_o the_o bury_n of_o sin_n the_o bath_n of_o regeneration_n the_o covenant_n of_o a_o christian_a liâ—e_z and_o the_o put_v on_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o plant_v into_o the_o true_a olive-tree_n jesus_n christ_n and_o for_o the_o right_a entrance_n into_o the_o spiritual_a ark_n etc._n etc._n beside_o many_o other_o i_o forbear_v to_o mention_v but_o refer_v you_o to_o the_o book_n itself_o and_o which_o i_o suppose_v be_v all_o fâ—ll_a prope_a and_o pertinent_a witness_n in_o the_o case_n and_o against_o none_o of_o which_o he_o make_v any_o exception_n and_o which_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v add_v to_o all_o the_o rest_n beside_o the_o two_o he_o will_v please_v to_o allow_v i_o i_o do_v also_o bring_v into_o this_o evidence_n oâ—â—â—â—_n 2._o the_o church_n that_o 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the_o same_o
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thereof_o we_o shall_v join_v issue_n with_o he_o and_o put_v it_o to_o the_o trial_n how_o and_o in_o what_o particular_n he_o will_v make_v good_a either_o the_o prevarication_n or_o falsehood_n suggest_v by_o he_o first_o as_o to_o the_o prevarication_n the_o prevarication_n he_o mention_n must_v appear_v prevarication_n 1._o prevarication_n either_o in_o the_o authority_n produce_v before_o or_o since_o infant_n baptism_n be_v enjoin_v first_o as_o to_o those_o produce_v by_o i_o before_o infant_n baptism_n be_v impose_v viz._n from_o the_o four_o first_o century_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o as_o to_o all_o the_o testimony_n i_o bring_v in_o the_o three_o first_o century_n so_o positive_o affirm_v that_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o proceed_v baptism_n he_o give_v no_o material_a exception_n only_o say_v this_o of_o tertulian_n pag._n 6._o second_o part_n that_o the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o indeed_o that_o tertullian_n in_o this_o age_n oppose_v himself_o to_o some_o that_o asserted_a infant_n baptism_n affirm_v that_o the_o adult_n be_v the_o only_a proper_a subject_n but_o how_o weak_o he_o do_v it_o may_v be_v see_v afterward_o when_o we_o come_v to_o examine_v the_o witness_n of_o which_o tertulian_n be_v the_o van._n so_o that_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v acknowledge_v cent._n none_o in_o the_o 3._o first_o cent._n that_o here_o be_v no_o prevarication_n or_o pervert_v evidence_n in_o these_o my_o first_o testimony_n in_o the_o three_o first_o century_n and_o where_o you_o will_v find_v there_o be_v more_o than_o seven_o time_n two_o boemus_n and_o strabo_n be_v none_o of_o their_o number_n so_o that_o if_o we_o shall_v go_v no_o further_o my_o first_o proposition_n stand_v firm_a that_o believer_n baptism_n be_v the_o only_a baptism_n for_o near_a 300._o year_n but_o to_o proceed_v i_o perceive_v his_o great_a cry_n against_o i_o be_v for_o the_o authority_n i_o produce_v out_o of_o the_o four_o century_n but_o how_o just_o will_v speedy_o 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and_o who_o be_v as_o much_o montanist_n as_o he_o therein_o viz._n origen_n cyprian_a chrysostom_n austin_n etc._n etc._n only_o herein_o tertullian_n be_v more_o orthodox_n hold_v none_o of_o those_o to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la while_o they_o take_v they_o to_o be_v apostolical_a tradition_n and_o essential_a to_o baptism_n magdeb._n century_n 3._o chap._n 10._o pag._n 240._o compare_v 82._o 225._o 248._o and_o for_o those_o evil_a sentiment_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o origen_n do_v far_o exceed_v he_o as_o you_o will_v find_v at_o large_a in_o his_o naevi_fw-la pag._n 261._o etc._n etc._n and_o which_o argue_v a_o very_a partial_a mina_fw-la to_o be_v so_o quick_a sight_v in_o the_o one_o and_o so_o stark_o blind_a in_o the_o other_o and_o as_o to_o his_o be_v a_o montanist_n before_o he_o write_v his_o book_n of_o baptism_n which_o mr._n will_n affirm_v i_o see_v it_o not_o confirm_v by_o any_o good_a authority_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o 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man_n that_o be_v erroneous_a in_o one_o thing_n mâ—y_v be_v orthodox_n enough_o in_o another_o the_o business_n be_v whether_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n he_o speak_v these_o thing_n against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o be_v not_o deny_v and_o in_o the_o next_o place_n whether_o he_o speak_v not_o reason_n and_o truth_n in_o that_o his_o testimony_n which_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o shall_v examine_v therefore_o second_o as_o to_o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n which_o he_o render_v so_o contemptible_a and_o ridiculous_a and_o guilty_a of_o so_o much_o dotage_n i_o make_v the_o follow_v particular_a reply_n to_o each_o exception_n viz._n first_o as_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n 19.14_o 1._o he_o abuse_v not_o the_o text_n mat._n 19.14_o from_o the_o mistake_a scripture_n he_o say_v he_o abuse_v the_o text_n by_o his_o paraphrase_n but_o second_o thought_n will_v i_o presume_v tell_v he_o it_o
of_o pope_n celestine_n against_o they_o for_o the_o same_o twelfethly_fw-mi the_o decree_n and_o bloody_a act_n of_o pope_n innocent_a the_o three_o against_o they_o for_o the_o same_o the_o writing_n also_o of_o several_a learned_a man_n of_o these_o time_n that_o oppose_v the_o waldenses_n in_o this_o point_n and_o charge_v the_o whole_a party_n therewith_o viz._n eckbertus_n erbrardus_n ermigendus_n cluniacenses_fw-la bernard_n durandus_fw-la thomas_n walden_n and_o to_o who_o we_o add_v some_o other_o of_o great_a eminency_n that_o have_v come_v to_o hand_n viz._n ermingerdus_fw-fr ermingerdus_fw-fr ermingerdus_n who_o write_v his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n in_o this_o age_n wherein_o he_o charge_v they_o in_o these_o word_n dicunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la quod_fw-la nulli_fw-la nisi_fw-la proprio_fw-la ore_fw-la &_o cord_n hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la pâ—tat_fw-la potest_fw-la prodesse_fw-la ind_n adducentes_fw-la hunc_fw-la errorem_fw-la quod_fw-la parvulis_fw-la baptismus_fw-la aquae_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosit_fw-la they_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n can_v profit_v none_o but_o those_o who_o with_o their_o own_o proper_a mouth_n and_o heart_n desire_v the_o same_o from_o whence_o they_o draw_v the_o error_n that_o water_n baptism_n be_v not_o profitable_a to_o little_a child_n vet._n bib._n pat._n tom._n 5._o p._n 1250._o and_o rainerius_n rainerius_n rainerius_n in_o his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n say_v de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quod_fw-la ablutio_fw-la quae_fw-la datur_fw-la infantibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la profit_n item_n quod_fw-la patrini_fw-la non_fw-la intelligent_a quià _fw-la respondeant_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la concern_v baptism_n they_o say_v that_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o little_a child_n profit_v nothing_o and_o that_o the_o gossip_n understand_v not_o their_o response_n to_o the_o priest_n bib._n patr._n tom._n 13._o pag._n 300_o 301_o etc._n etc._n and_o which_o evidence_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v the_o more_o notice_n of_o because_o mr._n will_n do_v so_o positive_o deny_v that_o rainerius_n in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o their_o error_n give_v not_o the_o least_o hint_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n no_o not_o one_o word_n of_o their_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n which_o he_o say_v be_v very_o strange_a if_o he_o have_v understand_v any_o thing_n thereof_o will_n p._n 96_o 97_o 98._o you_o have_v also_o fauâ—n_v favin_n favin_n the_o french_a chronologer_n testify_v that_o in_o these_o time_n viz._n twelve_o and_o tâ—irteenth_o century_n the_o albigense_n do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n esteem_v it_o superstitious_a against_o all_o which_o he_o give_v no_o particular_a exception_n only_o say_v these_o two_o thing_n first_o that_o whereas_o i_o cite_v two_o canon_n of_o pope_n alexander_n the_o three_o that_o be_v but_o just_a about_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o waldenses_n who_o be_v so_o call_v from_o peter_n waldo_n of_o lion_n about_o 1160._o as_o perin_n inform_v and_o which_o be_v evidence_n as_o he_o suppose_v against_o the_o former_a decree_n infer_v that_o those_o mention_v to_o be_v make_v before_o that_o time_n be_v before_o they_o be_v a_o people_n and_o second_o in_o pag._n 60._o say_v that_o tâ—eâ—e_n be_v no_o convince_a proof_n to_o be_v fetch_v from_o hence_o of_o their_o be_v against_o â—_z baptism_n because_o they_o be_v their_o enemy_n calumniate_a malicious_a papist_n that_o load_v they_o with_o all_o manner_n of_o reproach_n to_o render_v they_o odious_a and_o that_o unless_o some_o one_o do_v out_o of_o their_o one_o mouth_n give_v better_a evidence_n he_o shall_v believe_v with_o mr._n marshal_n that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o oppose_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v a_o innovation_n no_o ancient_a than_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o germany_n and_o for_o which_o he_o quote_v joseph_n vicecomes_a l._n 2._o c._n 1._o pag._n 103._o in_o mr._n wâ—llâ—_n pag._n 60._o 2._o part_n time_n 1._o waldense_a so_o call_v from_o the_o valley_n from_o ancient_a time_n to_o both_o which_o i_o say_v first_o to_o the_o first_o exception_n you_o will_v find_v that_o beza_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o mistake_v themselves_o that_o say_v they_o be_v call_v waldenses_n from_o peter_n waldo_n in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o be_v so_o call_v from_o the_o place_n of_o thâ—ir_a abode_n in_o the_o valley_n as_o at_o large_a you_o have_v it_o in_o i_o pag._n 338_o &_o 342._o and_o that_o claudius_n sciscelius_n counselor_n to_o charles_n the_o great_a in_o the_o eight_o century_n mention_n they_o by_o that_o name_n in_o his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n but_o however_o the_o people_n or_o sect_n of_o the_o waldenses_n be_v know_v or_o distinguish_v by_o several_a name_n as_o the_o people_n of_o lion_n etc._n etc._n as_o eusebius_n tell_v we_o p._n 340._o and_o set_v forth_o in_o story_n under_o divers_a name_n in_o several_a age_n as_o doctor_n usher_n tell_v we_o and_o which_o you_o have_v more_o particular_o p._n 338_o etc._n etc._n and_o to_o the_o second_o that_o there_o be_v convince_a proof_n offer_v from_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n king_n and_o counsel_n grant_n mr._n marshal_n grant_n let_v mr._n marshal_n grant_v suffice_v who_o in_o pag._n 63._o of_o his_o defence_n for_o infant_n baptism_n say_v thus_o i_o shall_v desire_v you_o to_o show_v that_o any_o company_n nr_v seâ—t_o if_o you_o will_v so_o call_v they_o have_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n produce_v if_o you_o can_v any_o of_o their_o confession_n allege_v any_o act_n of_o any_o counsel_n where_o this_o doctrine_n be_v charge_v upon_o any_o and_o condemn_v in_o that_o council_n and_o which_o i_o presume_v be_v substantial_o do_v both_o from_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o from_o act_n of_o counsel_n also_o where_o such_o be_v condemn_v and_o as_o to_o that_o quotation_n out_o of_o vicecome_v to_o prove_v that_o none_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n till_o the_o german_a anabaptist_n i_o hearty_o thank_v he_o for_o it_o which_o you_o will_v find_v do_v the_o contrary_a give_v a_o account_n of_o several_a that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n before_o that_o time_n as_o you_o have_v it_o in_o the_o quotation_n he_o refer_v to_o p._n 102_o 103._o tell_v we_o in_o these_o word_n that_o as_o the_o adult_n baptism_n old_a vicecom_v own_v that_o many_o have_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n of_o old_a no_o one_o ever_o doubt_v thereof_o witness_n as_o he_o say_v the_o monument_n or_o write_n of_o all_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o ecumenical_a counsel_n as_o well_o as_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o especial_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o as_o for_o infant_n baptism_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o vincentius_n victor_n hincmarus_n of_o laudum_fw-la the_o henâ—ricâ—_n and_o apostolici_fw-la in_o bernard_n and_o cluniacenses_fw-la time_n john_n wickliff_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o trialog_n c._n 2._o walafrid_n strabo_n ludovicus_n vives_z etc._n etc._n do_v all_o of_o they_o witness_n against_o it_o in_o their_o time_n so_o that_o we_o have_v a_o good_a confirm_a evidence_n from_o his_o authority_n to_o establish_v the_o truth_n we_o have_v assert_v and_o he_o deny_v it_o be_v true_a vicecome_v in_o the_o same_o place_n add_v among_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n luther_n calvin_n and_o beza_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o do_v oppose_v and_o neglect_v to_o do_v it_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ordain_v and_o practise_v it_o set_v it_o up_o in_o a_o new_a way_n without_o the_o service_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n and_o which_o be_v all_o one_o to_o they_o as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o practise_v at_o all_o and_o therefore_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n renounce_v of_o old_a as_o you_o have_v hear_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n as_o the_o greek_n renownce_v they_o rebaptise_v those_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o either_o as_o much_o as_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v at_o all_o by_o either_o side_n country_n 4._o from_o the_o footstep_n they_o have_v leave_v thereof_o in_o several_a country_n and_o four_o that_o the_o waldense_n do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n appear_v from_o the_o footstep_n we_o find_v hereof_o in_o those_o respective_a region_n and_o place_n where_o they_o have_v heretofore_o imprint_v it_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o follow_a instance_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o they_o be_v disperse_v all_o europa_n over_o viz._n germany_n in_o germany_n first_o in_o germany_n through_o all_o the_o part_n thereof_o where_o they_o plant_v church_n and_o have_v school_n in_o so_o much_o that_o their_o barbe_n can_v travel_v all_o the_o country_n over_o and_o lie_v every_o night_n at_o a_o friend_n house_n wherein_o both_o by_o doctrine_n and_o suffering_n this_o truth_n be_v eminent_o confirm_v and_o for_o which_o you_o have_v several_a instance_n from_o most_o part_n of_o the_o country_n from_o p._n 256_o to_o 260._o sâ—iâ—zâ—rland_n sâ—iâ—zâ—rland_n second_o in_o switzerland_n where_o in_o like_a manneâ—_n it_o be_v witness_v toâ—_n from_o 260_o to_o 267._o flanders_n flanders_n
commentarii_fw-la adamantii_fw-la titulo_fw-la for_o so_o he_o seem_v to_o think_v whosoever_o he_o be_v who_o commentary_n be_v extant_a upon_o luke_n under_o the_o title_n of_o adamantius_n which_o show_v say_v he_o that_o erasmus_n take_v they_o not_o to_o be_v origen_n or_o at_o least_o doubt_v thereof_o vossius_fw-la vossius_fw-la and_o vossius_fw-la disputatio_fw-la 14._o sect._n 8._o p._n 181._o say_v thus_o have_v cite_v origen_n whole_a testimony_n out_o of_o luke_n etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la de_fw-la origene_n minus_fw-la laborabimus_fw-la quia_fw-la quae_fw-la citabimus_fw-la graece_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a but_o we_o care_v the_o less_o for_o origen_n because_o the_o thing_n we_o cite_v be_v not_o extant_a in_o the_o greek_a and_o scultetus_n scultetus_n scultetus_n in_o his_o medul_n pat._n l._n 6._o c_o 2._o cum_fw-la graeca_n originis_fw-la opera_fw-la non_fw-la extant_a hodie_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la latina_n versio_fw-la corrigi_fw-la possit_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la that_o 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261._o etc._n etc._n but_o notorious_o do_v deny_v original_a sin_n as_o pag._n 265._o and_o therefore_o do_v doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o display_v of_o arianism_n ch_n 12._o say_v nor_n do_v origen_n pelaginise_v a_o little_a only_a but_o be_v suppose_v first_o to_o have_v bring_v pelaginisme_n into_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o do_v vossius_fw-la in_o his_o history_n of_o pelaginisme_n l._n 4._o th._n 6._o pag._n 153._o so_o much_o question_n whether_o those_o passage_n in_o his_o work_n mention_v infant_n baptism_n can_v be_v his_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o pelaginisme_n by_o all_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o the_o judicious_a reader_n will_v conclude_v there_o be_v a_o good_a ground_n to_o judge_v this_o testimony_n of_o origen_n upon_o all_o these_o account_n to_o be_v as_o invallid_a and_o insignificant_a as_o the_o former_a and_o that_o as_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o the_o least_o evidence_n to_o prove_v this_o our_o unwriten_v tradition_n to_o be_v apostolical_a 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