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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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place_n no_o not_o in_o eusebius_n time_n he_o say_v the_o epistle_n of_o james_n jude_n the_o 2._o of_o peter_n the_o 2._o and_o 3._o of_o john_n be_v contradict_v as_o not_o write_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n be_v for_o a_o while_o contradict_v etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o syria_n do_v not_o receive_v the_o 2._o epistle_n of_o peter_n nor_o the_o 2._o and_o 3._o of_o john_n nor_o the_o epistle_n of_o jude_n nor_o the_o apocalyps_n etc._n etc._n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v for_o the_o church_n of_o arabia_n will_v you_o hence_o conclude_v say_v d._n bilson_n that_o those_o part_n of_o scripture_n be_v not_o apostolic_a or_o that_o we_o need_v not_o to_o receive_v they_o now_o because_o they_o be_v former_o doubt_v of_o so_o full_o do_v this_o protestant_a doctor_n answer_n his_o own_o brethren_n like_a usual_a objection_n have_v against_o the_o maccabee_n and_o the_o other_o book_n
to_o that_o solemnity_n certain_a counsel_n also_o call_v the_o mass_n a_o sacrifice_n as_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n the_o seven_o of_o carthage_n the_o six_o of_o constantinople_n &_o the_o council_n of_o arles_n hospinian_n 5._o hospinian_n in_o concord_n discord_n in_o prologue_n fol._n 5._o write_v that_o it_o appear_v out_o of_o s._n gregory_n himself_o that_o in_o the_o age_n wherein_o he_o flourish_v which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n six_o hundred_o after_o s._n augustin_n one_o hundred_o fifty_o seven_o the_o oblation_n of_o the_o supper_n as_o a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o live_n and_o dead_a be_v deep_o seat_v &_o root_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o man_n and_o again_o 159._o again_o hist_o sacr._n part_n 1._o l._n 2._o p_o 159._o the_o enemy_n of_o mankind_n bring_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n by_o gregory_n the_o roman_a bishop_n this_o pernicious_a error_n of_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o a_o certain_a thick_a cloud_n cover_v the_o whole_a heaven_n in_o like_a sort_n chytraeus_n 199_o chytraeus_n apoc._n in_o c._n 9_o p_o 199_o charge_v s._n gregory_n that_o he_o establish_v many_o foul_a error_n &_o especial_o the_o idolatrous_a invocation_n of_o saint_n &_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o from_o that_o time_n as_o a_o deluge_n have_v overflow_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o again_o 280._o again_o de_fw-fr baeptismo_fw-la &_o euch._n p._n 453._o and_o see_v pelargus_n in_o schola_fw-la fidei_fw-la fol._n 8._o and_o praetor_n de_fw-fr sacr_n p._n 280._o in_o the_o time_n of_o gregory_n the_o great_a be_v ordain_v private_a mass_n final_o m._n fox_n report_v that_o about_o the_o year_n seven_o hundred_o and_o eighty_o pope_n adrian_n ratify_v the_o order_n of_o s._n gregory_n mass_n 130._o mass_n act._n mon_fw-fr p._n 130._o at_o what_o time_n say_v he_o this_o usual_a mass_n of_o the_o papist_n begin_v to_o be_v universal_a &_o uniform_a &_o general_o receive_v in_o all_o church_n but_o now_o to_o free_v most_o clear_o s._n gregory_n and_o his_o age_n from_o all_o innovation_n or_o first_o beginning_n of_o this_o so_o material_a a_o point_n of_o faith_n ancient_n to_o he_o be_v gregory_n turonensis_n who_o according_a to_o the_o confession_n 336._o confession_n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 336._o of_o the_o centurist_n mention_v in_o his_o four_o book_n etc._n etc._n 30._o chapter_n a_o certain_a priest_n of_o france_n name_v cato_n 339._o cato_n loc._n conc_fw-fr de_fw-fr caena_n domini_fw-la p._n 339._o who_o the_o plague_n be_v great_a stay_v there_o &_o say_v mass_n that_o you_o may_v understand_v say_v the_o centurist_n that_o the_o celebration_n of_o mass_n have_v then_o fulfil_v all_o place_n predecessor_n to_o s._n gregory_n in_o the_o popedom_n be_v pelagius_n of_o who_o musculus_fw-la report_v that_o pelagius_n place_v in_o the_o secret_a of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n that_o the_o virtue_n &_o efficacy_n of_o the_o mass_n may_v be_v communicate_v to_o the_o dead_a and_o he_o be_v further_a charge_v with_o the_o opinion_n of_o mass_n help_v the_o dead_a by_o 81._o by_o upon_o the_o revel_v p_o 81._o m._n simonides_n before_o he_o be_v symmachus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n of_o who_o the_o magdeburgian_o 664._o magdeburgian_o cent_z 6._o c._n 10._o c._n 664._o say_v he_o have_v the_o mark_n of_o antichrist_n for_o he_o bring_v the_o mass_n into_o form_n or_o order_n which_o form_n be_v so_o agreeable_a to_o the_o mass_n at_o this_o day_n that_o hieronymus_n 142._o hieronymus_n in_o his_o eusebius_n captiws_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o act._n 3._o diei_fw-la f._n 142._o marius_n avouch_v that_o symmachus_n bring_v the_o mass_n into_o that_o order_n wherein_o we_o see_v it_o dispose_v at_o this_o day_n before_o he_o govern_v s._n leo_n of_o who_o m._n bale_n 33._o bale_n in_o his_o pageant_n of_o pope_n f._n 27._o and_o see_v in_o act._n rom_n pont._n p._n 32._o 33._o write_v leo_n the_o first_o allow_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n not_o without_o great_a blasphemy_n to_o god_n before_o leo_n be_v the_o carthage_n council_n this_o pelargus_n reprove_v say_v 13._o say_v schola_fw-la fid●i_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o tract_n de_fw-fr council_n p._n 13._o the_o five_o council_n of_o carthage_n bring_v in_o prayer_n and_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o osiander_n 16._o osiander_n cent._n 4._o p._n 16._o say_v of_o the_o seaventie_o nine_o canon_n of_o the_o four_o carthage_n council_n whereat_o s._n austin_n be_v present_a this_o canon_n if_o it_o be_v not_o forge_v show_v at_o that_o time_n prayer_n &_o sacrifice_n to_o be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a before_o these_o counsel_n be_v s._n ambrose_n who_o the_o centurist_n 295._o centurist_n cent_z 4_o e_z 4._o c._n 295._o charge_v with_o not_o write_v well_o of_o transubstantiation_n &_o application_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o he_o use_v speech_n which_o none_o of_o the_o father_n before_o he_o use_v as_o to_o say_v mass_n to_o offer_v sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n before_o he_o live_v gregory_n nyssene_n of_o who_o crastovius_fw-la 320._o crastovius_fw-la de_fw-fr opificio_fw-la missae_fw-la l._n 1_o sec_fw-la 164._o p._n 8_o and_o see_v whit._n count_v du_fw-mi oe●m_fw-la l._n 4._o p_o 320._o write_v against_o bellarmin_n say_v do_v he_o not_o know_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o nyssen_n be_v of_o itself_o absurd_a etc._n etc._n for_o nyssene_n say_v when_o therefore_o christ_n give_v to_o his_o d_o sciple_n his_o body_n to_o eat_v etc._n etc._n then_o hidden_o unspeakable_o &_o invisible_o his_o body_n be_v sacrifice_v etc._n etc._n before_o he_o be_v cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n of_o who_o hospinian_n report_v 167._o report_v hist_o sa_o r_o p._n 167._o say_v as_o concern_v cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n he_o say_v indeed_o according_a to_o the_o receive_v custom_n of_o his_o time_n that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n be_v the_o great_a help_n of_o soul_n before_o these_o time_n live_v s._n cyprian_n who_o the_o centurist_n 83._o centurist_n cent._n 3●_n c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o reprove_v say_v cyprian_n say_v the_o priest_n exercise_v the_o office_n of_o christ_n and_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n the_o father_n insomuch_o as_o they_o further_o 5._o further_o in_o the_o index_n of_o the_o 3._o centurie_n under_o the_o letter_n 5._o say_v cyprian_n affirm_v superstitious_o that_o the_o priest_n exercise_v the_o office_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n tertullian_n be_v charge_v by_o osiander_n 138._o osiander_n cent_z 3_o l._n 1._o p_o 10._o fulk_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n p_o 265._o cent._n 3._o c._n 5._o c._n 138._o the_o centurie-writer_n and_o d._n fulk_n for_o that_o he_o approve_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a origen_n be_v reprove_v by_o chemnitius_n 58_o chemnitius_n exam._n p._n 3._o p._n 50._o &_o 58_o for_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n be_v hinder_v to_o they_o who_o serve_v the_o necessity_n of_o wedlock_n whereupon_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o that_o he_o only_o be_v to_o offer_v the_o daily_a sacrifice_n who_o have_v vow_v himself_o to_o daily_a &_o perpetual_a chastity_n before_o these_o live_v ireneus_fw-la he_o caluin_n 389._o caluin_n lib_fw-la de_fw-la vera_fw-la eccl._n reformat_fw-la extant_a in_o tract_n theo._n caluin_n etc._n etc._n p._n 389._o reject_v for_o that_o he_o expound_v the_o place_n of_o malachi_n c._n 1._o 10._o 11._o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o the_o centurist_n 63._o centurist_n cent._n 2_o c._n 4_o col_fw-fr 63._o avouch_v that_o he_o seem_v to_o speak_v very_o incommodious_o of_o sacrifice_n l._n 4._o c._n 32._o when_o he_o say_v christ_n teach_v a_o new_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o the_o church_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n offer_v to_o god_n over_o the_o whole_a world_n in_o the_o same_o time_n live_v alexander_n the_o first_o of_o who_o szegedine_n 143._o szegedine_n grave_n aliquot_fw-la quaestiones_fw-la fol._n 162._o and_o fee_n hierom_n maerius_n in_o eusebius_n capt._n in_o act._n 3._o oieide_a missae_fw-la p._n 143._o write_v alexander_n the_o first_o teach_v that_o which_o be_v receive_v from_o the_o heathen_n to_o be_v blot_v out_o by_o this_o sacrifice_n yea_o szegedine_n undertake_v to_o set_v down_o the_o framer_n of_o the_o mass_n begin_v with_o the_o father_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o the_o more_o ancient_a counsel_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n say_v 68_o say_v in_o speculo_fw-la pontif._n p._n 68_o the_o framer_n of_o the_o papistical_a mass_n be_v clemens_n anacletus_fw-la alexander_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o 69._o the_o ibid._n p._n 69._o counsel_n of_o bishop_n for_o the_o papistical_a mass_n be_v the_o counsel_n of_o ephesus_n antioch_n the_o second_o of_o carthage_n of_o constantinople_n of_o arles_n etc._n etc._n before_o all_o these_o live_v s._n ignatius_n of_o who_o the_o centurist_n 63._o centurist_n cent._n 2_o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 63._o
be_v acknowledge_v of_o dionysius_n by_o melancthon_n 23._o melancthon_n in_o aliquot_fw-la libel_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 23._o &_o d._n fulk_n 353._o fulk_n against_o purgatory_n p._n 353._o which_o d._n fulk_n in_o plain_a word_n teach_v that_o tertulian_n 393._o tertulian_n against_o purgat_fw-la p._n 3●2_n &_o see_v p_o 303._o 393._o cyprian_n austin_n hierom_n and_o a_o great_a many_o more_o do_v witness_n that_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereunto_o bucer_n accord_v 311._o accord_v in_o enarrat_fw-la in_o sacra_fw-la quatuor_fw-la euangel_n in_o math._n c._n 12._o p_o 311._o affirm_v that_o prayer_n and_o alm_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a almost_o from_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o church_n last_o zuinglius_fw-la being_n impugn_a for_o deny_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o press_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o father_n especial_o of_o s._n chrysostom_n &_o s._n augustin_n who_o derive_v this_o custom_n from_o the_o apostle_n answer_v thus_o 10._o thus_o tom._n 1._o epicheroe_n de_fw-fr can._n miss_n f._n 186._o and_o see_v tom._n 2._o in_o elench_v contra_fw-la anabap_n f._n 10._o if_o it_o be_v so_o as_o augustin_n and_o chrysostom_n report_n i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n suffer_v certain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a for_o no_o other_o cause_n then_o to_o condescend_v to_o their_o infirmity_n so_o insimulate_v the_o apostle_n wilful_o to_o have_v permit_v other_o to_o err_v according_a to_o the_o error_n of_o protestant_n in_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o error_n in_o themselves_o yea_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o they_o dead_a be_v believe_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a true_a believe_a jew_n for_o whereas_o m._n morton_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n affirm_v the_o doctrine_n then_o teach_v by_o the_o jew_n to_o be_v now_o know_v among_o other_o reason_n 94._o reason_n treat_n of_o israel_n &_o the_o church_n p._n 93._o 94._o by_o the_o open_a confession_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o hold_v even_o to_o this_o day_n those_o opinion_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o their_o ancestor_n and_o be_v common_o hold_v of_o that_o nation_n yea_o say_v the_o centurist_n 885._o centurist_n cent._n 8._o col_fw-fr 885._o the_o jew_n be_v constant_a in_o their_o opinion_n and_o pet._n martyr_n write_v that_o 599._o that_o com._n plac_n in_o engl._n part_n 2._o p._n 599._o the_o jew_n as_o yet_o continue_v and_o keep_v in_o so_o great_a adversity_n in_o so_o diverse_a and_o grievous_a captivity_n and_o dispersion_n they_o hold_v still_o their_o religion_n doubtless_o no_o ancient_a trojan_n lumbards_n hun_n or_o vandal_n have_v so_o hold_v their_o own_o etc._n etc._n and_o can_v show_v their_o original_n &_o history_n set_v forth_o in_o most_o true_a writing_n and_o be_v every_o where_o disperse_v as_o they_o be_v can_v nevertheless_o keep_v their_o own_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n now_o concern_v these_o jew_n so_o constant_a in_o their_o faith_n and_o admit_v the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n but_o only_a for_o a_o true_a history_n it_o be_v evident_a thereby_o that_o judas_n machabeus_n a_o holy_a and_o just_a man_n procure_v 2.43.45_o procure_v 2._o machab_n 2.43.45_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o priest_n of_o jerusalem_n then_o true_a believer_n offer_v the_o same_o wherein_o also_o our_o late_a jew_n be_v so_o conformable_a that_o d._n whitaker_n confess_v the_o same_o in_o these_o word_n 85._o word_n cont._n dur._n l._n 1._o p._n 85._o i_o know_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v libros_fw-la memoriale_n book_n of_o commemoration_n which_o they_o read_v in_o their_o synagogue_n and_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o now_o they_o be_v accustom_v to_o use_v certain_a prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a insomuch_o that_o buxdorsius_n also_o report_v their_o know_a and_o confess_v doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n 275._o purgatory_n synagoga_fw-la judaica_n p._n 24._o 505._o 506._o 508._o 275._o d._n beard_n avouch_v that_o 77._o that_o retractive_a from_o the_o romish_a religion_n p._n 77._o the_o romanist_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o jew_n in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o they_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o prayer_n &_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a ground_v their_o opinion_n partly_o upon_o the_o example_n of_o judas_n machabeus_n who_o as_o they_o affirm_v procure_v sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v by_o the_o priest_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o partly_o upon_o the_o thalmudical_a tradition_n of_o diverse_a of_o their_o ancient_a rabbin_n from_o the_o premise_n than_o we_o may_v remember_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v confess_o believe_v a_o place_n of_o purgatory_n after_o this_o life_n second_o wherein_o sin_n be_v punish_v and_o remit_v three_o for_o which_o remission_n they_o use_v to_o pray_v give_v alm_n and_o offer_v the_o most_o precious_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n now_o the_o father_n acknowledge_v and_o reprehend_v by_o protestant_n for_o the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v s._n gregory_n austin_n ambrose_n hierome_n chrysostom_n prudentius_n epiphaenius_n pelagius_n the_o four_o carthage_n council_n cyprian_a tertullian_n origin_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n the_o apostle_n and_o the_o ancient_a believe_v jew_n the_o protestant_a writer_n observe_v and_o dislike_n in_o the_o say_a father_n the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v caluin_n beza_n bullinger_n zuinglius_fw-la the_o centurie-writer_n carion_n chemnitius_n osiander_n melancthon_n hospinian_n winkelmannus_n buxdorsius_n bucer_n symonde_n bale_n sutcliffe_n humphrey_n fulk_n whitaker_n gifford_n willet_n &_o morton_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v 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sec_fw-la 13._o fol._n 378._o parkins_n in_o problem_n p._n 136._o and_o m._n parkins_n holie-bread_n be_v affirm_v so_o plain_o by_o s._n austin_n de_fw-la pec_fw-la merit_n &_o remiss_a l._n 2._o c._n 26._o that_o d._n fulk_n 377._o fulk_n against_o he●kins_n etc._n etc._n p._n 377._o do_v therefore_o term_v it_o a_o superstitious_a bread_n give_v in_o s._n augustine_n time_n to_o those_o that_o be_v catechuman_n instead_o of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o 51._o and_o of_o the_o mass_n p._n 51._o philip_n morney_n charge_v s._n basils_n liturgy_n with_o holie-bread_n distribute_v after_o service_n to_o such_o as_o have_v not_o communicate_v and_o as_o for_o holy_a oil_n or_o chrism_n the_o centurist_n 367._o centurist_n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 367._o charge_v s._n gregory_n out_o of_o his_o own_o write_n with_o consecration_n of_o chrism_n and_o oil_n yea_o they_o 869._o they_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 865_o 503_o 1274_o 869._o confess_v that_o in_o the_o four_o age_n there_o be_v 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sprinkle_v of_o ash_n 12._o but_o most_o observe_v &_o sundry_a be_v the_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n s._n gregory_n be_v charge_v by_o the_o centurist_n 367._o centurist_n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 367._o with_o consecration_n of_o the_o font_n of_o baptism_n and_o they_o charge_v the_o father_n of_o the_o 415._o the_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 415._o four_o and_o 82._o and_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 82._o three_o age_n with_o consecration_n of_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n with_o abrenunciation_n exorcism_n anoyl_v threefold_a immersion_n and_o they_o 8●_n they_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 8●_n say_v express_o of_o s._n cyprian_n that_o he_o in_o his_o first_o book_n and_o tweluth_o epistle_n affirm_v that_o the_o water_n must_v be_v first_o purify_v and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o priest_n that_o it_o may_v by_o baptism_n wash_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o man_n that_o be_v baptize_v for_o which_o very_a say_n he_o be_v also_o reprove_v by_o m._n parker_n 97._o parker_n against_o symbolise_v etc._n etc._n prat_v 1_o sec_fw-la 35._o p._n 112_o 113._o hamelman_n de_fw-fr tradit_fw-la apost_n l._n 2._o c._n 7._o col_fw-fr 97._o and_o hamelmannus_fw-la in_o baptism_n be_v likewise_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n so_o the_o centurist_n 23._o centurist_n cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 125._o and_o m._n spark_n in_o his_o persuasion_n to_o uniform_a p._n 23._o confess_v that_o origen_n in_o his_o 2._o hom._n upon_o the_o 38._o ps_n sheweth_z that_o those_o who_o be_v baptyse_v be_v accustom_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o which_o rite_n tertulian_n also_o make_v mention_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la and_o cyprian_n also_o in_o his_o book_n of_o baptise_v heretic_n mention_v the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n with_o prayer_n &_o sige_v and_o d._n beard_n confess_v that_o 391._o that_o retractive_a from_o romish_a relig._n p._n 391._o the_o cross_n &_o anoint_v in_o baptism_n be_v of_o great_a antiquity_n such_o as_o be_v baptize_v be_v also_o anoyl_v with_o holy_a chrism_n 43._o chrism_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 17._o sec_fw-la 43._o caluin_n say_v if_o any_o man_n will_v defend_v those_o invention_n with_o antiquity_n i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a how_o ancient_a the_o use_n of_o chrism_n &_o exufflation_n be_v in_o baptism_n how_o little_a from_o the_o apostle_n age_n the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v touch_v withrust_a etc._n etc._n perkins_n 653._o perkins_n in_o the_o 2._o vol._n of_o his_o work_n p._n 653._o confess_v that_o 390._o that_o cent._n 4._o p._n 390._o this_o unction_n pertain_v to_o baptysme_n in_o the_o west_n till_o above_o 300._o year_n after_o christ_n 290._o christ_n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 364._o 365._o osiand_n cent_n 6._o p._n 289._o 290._o and_o zepperus_n 123._o zepperus_n politia_fw-la eccl._n l._n 1._o c._n 12._o p_o 123._o mention_v holie-water_n oil_n salt_n exorcism_n spittle_n etc._n etc._n say_v i_o confess_v these_o superstitious_a ceremony_n be_v very_o ancient_a in_o the_o church_n &_o not_o many_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o in_o further_a 125_o further_a ibid._n p._n 124._o 125_o proof_n thereof_o he_o allege_v those_o most_o famous_a &_o ancient_a father_n s._n austin_n s._n cyprian_n and_o tertullian_n and_o as_o concern_v exorcism_n exufflation_n &_o other_o ancient_a rite_n of_o baptism_n 264._o baptism_n compend_v loc_fw-la 33._o p._n 264._o gesnerus_fw-la avouch_v that_o exorcism_n in_o baptism_n be_v much_o more_o ancient_a than_o papistry_n for_o nazianzene_n cyril_n cyprian_n ambrose_n &_o austin_n make_v mention_n thereof_o in_o many_o place_n the_o like_a acknowledgement_n whereof_o be_v also_o make_v by_o 133._o by_o common_a place_n part_n 4._o c._n 9_o see_v 14._o 15._o p._n 132._o 133._o peter_n martyr_n m._n parker_n affirm_v from_o the_o many_o testimony_n of_o cyprian_a &_o tertulian_n by_o he_o allege_v in_o the_o margin_n say_v 128_o say_v against_o symbolise_v wi●●_n
answer_n after_o 750._o 750._o 750._o to_o 800._o i_o name_v say_v he_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n under_o constant_n copronymus_n and_o of_o frankford_n under_o charles_n the_o great_a against_o image_n and_o the_o book_n yet_o extant_a that_o he_o cause_v to_o be_v make_v against_o the_o 2._o nicene_n council_n with_o another_o set_v forth_o by_o ludonicus_n his_o son_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n a_o great_a tooth_n still_o have_v our_o minister_n against_o image_n but_o it_o never_o bit_v for_o t●is_n council_n of_o constantinople_n be_v likewise_o never_o confirm_v but_o express_o condemn_v in_o the_o seven_o synod_n annalibus_fw-la synod_n act._n 6._o &_o paul_n diac._n l._n 21._o 22_o de_fw-la rib._n rom._n zonoras_n in_fw-la annalibus_fw-la and_o be_v assemble_v only_o of_o grecian_n who_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o image_n be_v many_o of_o they_o divide_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o testimony_n thereof_o be_v of_o no_o force_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o but_o beside_o it_o be_v not_o worthy_a of_o observation_n that_o as_o neither_o of_o these_o counsel_n of_o constantinople_n so_o often_o urge_v by_o our_o doctor_n be_v ever_o confirm_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n without_o who_o allowance_n according_a to_o the_o first_o council_n 13._o council_n socrat._v l._n 2._o c._n 13._o of_o nice_a it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o assemble_v general_a counsel_n so_o neither_o do_v any_o of_o the_o patriarch_n themselves_o ever_o assent_v unto_o they_o as_o be_v manifest_a by_o zonoras_n cedrenus_n paulus_n diaconus_fw-la and_o other_o writer_n hereof_o yea_o further_o all_o author_n who_o write_v of_o general_a counsel_n as_o psellus_n photins_n zonoras_n nicephorus_n cedrenus_n nycetas_n paulus_n diaconus_fw-la rhegino_n ado_n sigebert_n abbas_n vspergensis_n and_o other_o do_v either_o not_o number_v these_o two_o of_o constantinople_n among_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o church_n or_o else_o do_v express_o reprove_v they_o and_o the_o 2._o 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and_o vanity_n of_o this_o evasion_n be_v most_o apparent_a for_o who_o of_o foreign_a protestant_n be_v ever_o repute_v more_o learned_a or_o more_o enlighten_v with_o the_o spirit_n than_o luther_n caluin_n beza_n chemnitius_n islebius_n illiricus_fw-la with_o the_o other_o centurie-writer_n castalio_n zuinglius_fw-la musculus_fw-la brentius_n andreas_n friccius_n adamus_n francisci_fw-la bullinger_n and_o sundry_a such_o other_o all_o of_o they_o high_o esteem_v of_o by_o their_o other_o protestant_a brethren_n or_o who_o at_o home_n more_o honour_v than_o tyndal_n jewel_n goad_n fotherbie_n fulk_n whitaker_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o all_o of_o those_o be_v indeed_o the_o prime_a man_n that_o ever_o they_o have_v do_v joint_o conspire_v in_o this_o great_a impiety_n of_o censure_v control_a correct_a or_o reject_v some_o one_o part_n or_o other_o of_o the_o forename_a canonical_a scripture_n or_o else_o of_o condemn_v the_o evangelist_n and_o apostle_n of_o several_a error_n infirmity_n and_o slide_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n which_o foul_a proceed_n of_o so_o many_a and_o so_o learned_a protestant_n do_v evident_o according_a to_o d._n fulk_n rule_n convince_v they_o to_o be_v perfect_a heretic_n for_o 214._o for_o confut._n of_o purgatory_n p._n 214._o whosoever_o say_v he_o deni_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n thereby_o bewray_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o heretic_n laus_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o b._n v._o mariae_fw-la finis_fw-la a_o table_n of_o the_o book_n and_o chapter_n the_o first_o book_n wherein_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n that_o the_o catholic_n roman_n church_n have_v continue_v ever_o most_o know_v and_o universal_a even_o from_o christ_n very_a time_n until_o the_o date_n hereof_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o the_o force_n of_o the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o authority_n thereof_o as_o also_o of_o these_o great_a necessity_n of_o finding-out_a this_o true_a church_n chap._n 1._o fol._n 1._o that_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n and_o religion_n for_o the_o last_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n have_v still_o continue_v most_o know_v and_o universal_a throughout_o the_o christian_a world_n chap._n 2._o fol._n 4._o a_o further_a confirmation_n of_o the_o universal_a continuance_n of_o our_o roman_a church_n &_o religion_n for_o these_o last_o thousand_o year_n be_v take_v from_o the_o confess_v belief_n and_o profession_n of_o such_o person_n as_o live_v within_o the_o foresay_a time_n be_v most_o famous_a and_o notorious_a in_o one_o respect_n or_o other_o chap._n 3._o fol._n 8._o that_o the_o faith_n of_o s._n gregory_n &_o s._n augustin_n and_o whereto_o england_n be_v by_o they_o convert_v be_v our_o roman_a catholic_n and_o not_o protestant_a chap._n 4._o fol._n 10._o that_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n and_o religion_n continue_v and_o flourish_v during_o the_o whole_a time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n contain_v the_o first_o six_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n chap._n 5._o fol._n 20._o a_o further_a proof_n of_o the_o present_a roman_a religion_n continuance_n from_o the_o apostle_n time_n to_o these_o day_n be_v take_v from_o the_o christian_a belief_n of_o the_o indian_n armenian_n grecian_n and_o britain_n all_o of_o they_o convert_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n chap._n 6._o fol._n 27._o the_o second_o book_n wherein_o be_v prove_v through_o all_o the_o chief_a article_n of_o religion_n and_o that_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n that_o the_o same_o faith_n which_o be_v now_o teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v ancient_o teach_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o christ_n that_o general_a counsel_n do_v true_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o credit_n and_o authority_n give_v by_o protestant_n to_o the_o say_a counsel_n chap._n 1._o fol._n 1._o that_o the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o her_o doctor_n and_o pastor_n be_v a_o argument_n of_o force_n and_o for_o such_o approve_a by_o sundry_a learned_a protestant_n chap._n 2._o fol._n 3._o that_o the_o father_n and_o doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v that_o s._n peter_n be_v ordain_v by_o christ_n the_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o s._n peter_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n themselves_n chap._n 3._o fol._n 8._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v &_o teach_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o succeed_v s._n peter_n in_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n chap._n 4._o fol._n 11._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o christ_n believe_v the_o book_n of_o toby_n judith_n ester_n sapientia_fw-la ecclesiasticus_fw-la and_o two_o first_o of_o maccabee_n to_o be_v true_o canonical_a scripture_n chap._n 5._o fol._n 25._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v &_o teach_v our_o now_o catholic_n doctrine_n concern_v tradition_n chap._n 6._o fol._n 30._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o according_a to_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o sacrament_n do_v true_o confer_v grace_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o they_o be_v in_o number_n seven_o chap._n 7._o fol._n 32._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n true_a body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o also_o our_o further_a catholic_n doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n adoration_n reservation_n and_o the_o like_a chap._n 8._o fol._n 35._o protestant_n confess_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o christ_n believe_v teach_v &_o practise_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n as_o also_o that_o it_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedech_n and_o true_o propitiatory_a for_o the_o live_n &_o the_o dead_a chap._n 9_o fol._n 41._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n teach_v and_o believe_v the_o power_n of_o priest_n to_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o necessity_n of_o auricular_a confession_n the_o imposition_n of_o penance_n and_o satisfaction_n to_o god_n thereby_o as_o also_o our_o roman_a doctrine_n of_o pardon_n or_o indulgence_n chap._n 10._o fol._n 46._o it_o be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n &_o of_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v believe_v teach_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chap._n 11._o fol._n 50._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the._n father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hel._n chap._n 12._o fol._n 55._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o practise_v our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n chap._n 13._o fol._n 57_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n allow_v the_o use_n of_o christ_n image_n and_o his_o saint_n place_v they_o even_o in_o church_n and_o reverence_v they_o chap._n 14._o fol._n 60._o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v special_o honour_v &_o reverence_v the_o holy_a relic_n of_o martyr_n and_o other_o saint_n carry_v they_o in_o procession_n and_o make_v pilgrimage_n unto_o they_o at_o which_o also_o many_o miracle_n be_v wrought_v chap._n 15._o fol._n 63._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o holy_a doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n not_o only_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n but_o likewise_o worship_v the_o same_o attribute_v great_a efficacy_n power_n and_o virtue_n thereunto_o chap._n