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anthonii_fw-la eremitae_fw-la the_o protestant_n rail_a &_o scurrility_n in_o uritinge_n hanmers_n scurrility_n against_o purgatory_n pag._n 241._o d._n fulks_n talent_n in_o rail_v in_o his_o retentive_a against_o the_o motyves_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o book_n of_o purgatory_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a entitle_v a_o overthrow_v of_o stapletons_n fortress_n of_o faith_n entitle_v a_o rejoinder_n to_o marshal_n reply_n john_n caluin_n his_o spirit_n in_o raylinge_v against_o stapletons_n fortress_n pag._n 75._o luther_n prerogative_n in_o rail_v rom._n 8._o lib._n count_n regem_fw-la an._n to._n 2._o wit_n temb_v foe_fw-mi 331._o fol._n 333._o o_o impure_a spirit_n of_o a_o prophet_n fol._n 334._o fol._n 335._o fol._n 337._o fol._n 338._o how_o intolerable_a be_v this_o in_o a_o renegade_n friar_n fol._n 339._o see_v the_o pride_n of_o a_o apostata_fw-la against_o three_o famous_a university_n fol._n 442._o fol._n 345._o fol._n 333._o fol._n 337._o luther_n speech_n against_o caluiniste_n and_o of_o caluiniste_n against_o he_o tigurini_fw-la tract_n 3._o count_n supremam_fw-la lutheri_fw-la confessâ—onem_fw-la confessâ—onem_fw-la ergo_fw-la luther_n have_v devil_n which_o after_o charke_n deny_v et_fw-la nunc_fw-la &_o semper_fw-la &_o in_fw-la saecula_fw-la saeculâ—rum_fw-la in_o sathana_fw-la siâ—tum_fw-la &_o supersathanasiatum_fw-la &_o persathanasiatum_n pag._n 61._o jesuyte_n no_o sect_n 1._o &_o 2._o 4._o reg._n 1._o 4._o reg._n 2._o dan._n 1._o marc._n 1._o 1._o the_o description_n of_o sactary_n sactary_n the_o name_n of_o jesuit_n jesuit_n of_o elias_n and_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o monk_n ep._n 13._o ad_fw-la paulinum_fw-la &_o ep_v 4._o ad_fw-la rusticum_fw-la elyas_n &_o elyzeus_n monkâ—_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n ge._n 2._o 3._o 4._o 4._o of_o s._n john_n baptist_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o precedent_n to_o monk_n cap._n 6._o plin._n li._n 5._o c_o 17._o nat_n hist._n joseph_n li._n 2._o ca._n 7._o de_fw-la bello_fw-la judaico_fw-la cap._n 6._o s._n john_n a_o monk_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n testament_n thouchinge_v the_o true_a definition_n of_o a_o sectary_n the_o difference_n betwixt_v heresy_n and_o a_o sect_n the_o signification_n of_o heresy_n more_o general_a then_o of_o a_o sect_n a_o fond_a argument_n 1._o cor._n 1._o schism_n ad_fw-la quod_fw-la vult_fw-la hae_fw-la 69._o heresy_n error_n tract_n 5._o in_o joh._n the_o erroneous_a schism_n of_o the_o corinthian_n 1._o cor._n 1._o the_o exposition_n of_o s._n paul_n word_n 1._o cor._n 1._o a_o example_n heresy_n of_o the_o pharise_n how_o the_o pharise_n be_v a_o sect_n in_o two_o sense_n a_o sect_n or_o heresy_n may_v sometime_o be_v take_v in_o good_a part_n act._n 26._o tyrannis_fw-la against_o bristow_n motive_n pag._n 14._o m._n chark_n definition_n of_o a_o sect_n great_a absurâ—â—â—â—â—â—_n m._n charck_n fond_a oversight_n act._n 26._o gal_n 5._o 2._o pet._n 2._o whether_o the_o jesuite_n be_v a_o sect_n by_o m._n chark_n definition_n nath._n 28._o mark_n 16._o math._n 10._o coloss._n 3_o gal._n 5._o &_o 6._o rom._n 12._o chastize_v of_o our_o body_n mat._n 3._o marc._n 1._o heb._n 11._o ca._n 10._o li._n 3._o ep._n 22._o ad_fw-la eustoch_n eustoch_n but_o you_o will_v say_v s._n jerom._n be_v not_o protestant_n in_o ca._n 16._o li._n 3._o reg._n a_o offer_n of_o coolinge_a physic_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o england_n in_o london_n in_o banberie_n chark_n belye_v of_o the_o jesuite_n gab._n prateol_n in_fw-it haer_fw-mi de_fw-fr flagellantib_n ger._n tract_n count_n flagel_n the_o heresy_n of_o whipper_n pratcolus_fw-la ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la alphon._n lib._n 3._o cont_n haeresee_v haeresee_v the_o name_n of_o jesuite_n impudency_n turianus_n in_o apologetico_fw-la cap._n 1._o &_o 5._o fond_n exclaim_v for_o nothing_o a_o evident_a example_n example_n entitle_v gentle_a gircke_n for_o jesuite_n to_o be-come_a true_a israelyte_n monk_n and_o friar_n in_o psa_fw-la 132_o li_n 11._o hist._n cap._n 3._o li._n 3._o cont_n li._n petil._n ca._n 40._o book_n write_v in_o the_o commendation_n of_o monk_n and_o friar_n luc._n 9_o joh_n 11._o mat._n 19_o 19_o of_o the_o word_n religious_a d._n tho._n secunda_fw-la secundae_fw-la q._n 18._o art_n 1._o marc._n 10._o 1._o cor._n 7._o câ—eros_n orig._n ho._n 7._o in_o jere._n hier._n in_o 12_o jerem._n jerem._n of_o good_a &_o evel_a religious_a against_o sâ—â—pleton_n pag._n 96._o &_o whether_o the_o state_n of_o our_o monk_n &_o noâ—â—es_n be_v the_o same_o as_o be_v in_o the_o primative_a church_n 1._o cor._n 4._o heretical_a consequence_n chark_n bold_a slaunderinge_v of_o all_o religious_a people_n touch_v religious_a vow_n de_fw-fr mor._n eccl_n cap._n 31_o de_fw-la opere_fw-la monachâ—_n c._n 14._o &_o 15._o cogginge_v &_o foystinge_v in_o psal._n 75._o circa_fw-la finen_n questione_fw-la vel_fw-la regula_fw-la 14._o fusius_fw-la explicaâ—a_fw-la ep._n 6._o ad_fw-la theodorum_fw-la lapsum_fw-la heb._n 13._o nonnes_n in_o psa_fw-la 83._o lib._n count_n jovinian_a li._n 1._o ep_v 11._o li._n de_fw-fr vir_fw-la cap._n 29._o li._n ad_fw-la vir_fw-la lap_n cap._n 5._o de_fw-fr bono_fw-mi uâ—_n duitatis_fw-la c._n 9â—_n ibid._n ca._n 8._o against_o
augustin_n have_v write_v but_o one_o book_n of_o this_o matter_n i_o will_v gyve_v a_o good_a thing_n that_o i_o be_v by_o you_o while_o you_o read_v this_o to_o see_v whether_o you_o can_v blush_v or_o no._n but_o yet_o i_o call_v back_o my_o wish_n again_o for_o i_o think_v you_o will_v make_v i_o more_o a_o fear_v than_o i_o you_o a_o shame_v for_o that_o your_o pursevante_n be_v strong_a than_o our_o argument_n and_o this_o be_v but_o concern_v the_o quotation_n of_o s._n augustin_n for_o about_o the_o text_n itself_o m._n chark_n behavioure_n be_v a_o great_a deal_n worse_o and_o such_o in_o very_a deed_n as_o if_o a_o man_n have_v care_n of_o his_o own_o soul_n he_o will_v never_o trust_v such_o a_o fellow_n more_o that_o against_o all_o honesty_n truth_n shame_n and_o respect_n both_o of_o conscience_n &_o â—redit_n falsifi_v so_o learned_a a_o father_n write_n against_o his_o plain_a and_o evident_a word_n and_o meaning_n for_o whereas_o s._n augustin_n allege_v by_o the_o censure_n &_o in_o many_o place_n else_o of_o his_o work_v say_v 23._o avouch_v confirm_v and_o prove_v that_o concupiscentia_fw-la iam_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quando_fw-la â—lli_fw-la ad_fw-la illicita_fw-la opera_fw-la non_fw-la consentitur_fw-la concupiscens_fw-la now_o in_o the_o regenerate_a be_v not_o sin_n when_o consent_n of_o mind_n be_v not_o yield_v to_o unlaufull_a work_n m._n chark_n answer_v s._n augustin_n place_n be_v expound_v by_o himself_o afterward_o saye_v concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o for_o give_v in_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v not_o sin_n but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v as_o sin_n 25._o this_o seem_v plain_a and_o augustin_n appear_v contrary_a to_o himself_o but_o what_o be_v the_o principal_a word_n in_o this_o sentence_n that_o make_v most_o for_o m._n charke_n the_o word_n sin_n you_o will_v say_v for_o that_o be_v take_v away_o in_o the_o former_a clause_n the_o sentence_n make_v quite_o against_o he_o well_o then_o that_o word_n have_v he_o add_v of_o himself_o and_o yet_o have_v corrupt_v the_o whole_a sentence_n beside_o for_o s._n augustine_n word_n be_v these_o 25._o quaeritur_fw-la etc._n etc._n si_fw-la in_o parent_n baptizato_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la concupiscentia_fw-la &_o peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la cur_n eadem_fw-la ipsae_fw-la in_o prole_fw-la peccatum_fw-la sit_fw-la the_o question_n be_v say_v s._n augustin_n why_o this_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n in_o the_o child_n before_o it_o be_v baptize_v if_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o parent_n now_o baptize_v here_o you_o see_v by_o the_o way_n that_o it_o be_v hold_v as_o a_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n that_o concupiscence_n be_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o parent_n which_o be_v baptize_v and_o the_o reason_n s_o augustin_n yeedelth_n immediate_o in_o the_o answer_n saye_v ad_fw-la haec_fw-la respondetur_fw-la dimitti_fw-la concupiscentiam_fw-la carnis_fw-la in_o baptismo_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la siâ—_n sed_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la imputeâ—ur_fw-la quamuis_fw-la reatu_fw-la svo_fw-la iam_fw-la soluto_fw-la manet_fw-la tamen_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o this_o be_v answer_v that_o the_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v forgeven_v in_o baptism_n not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v into_o sin_n it_o remane_v still_o though_o the_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o here_o now_o we_o see_v that_o s._n augustin_n affirm_v only_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o quite_o take_v away_o by_o baptism_n but_o yet_o the_o guilt_n thereof_o be_v so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o impute_v into_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o sin_n the_o cause_n why_o it_o be_v leave_v he_o utter_v in_o diverse_a place_n as_o when_o he_o say_v 4._o ad_fw-la agonem_fw-la manet_fw-la non_fw-la sibi_fw-la ad_fw-la illicita_fw-la consentientibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la omnino_fw-la nocitura_fw-la concupiscence_n remane_v to_o fight_v withal_o but_o yet_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o it_o can_v hurt_v we_o nothing_o at_o all_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o her_o unlaufull_a suggestion_n secondlie_o we_o see_v that_o s._n augustin_n in_o this_o very_a place_n prove_v direct_o our_o very_a position_n that_o concupiscence_n in_o the_o baptize_v be_v not_o sin_n also_o that_o it_o have_v no_o guilt_n and_o that_o it_o do_v hurt_v nothing_o without_o consent_n whereby_o m._n charke_n lack_v of_o judgement_n and_o shame_n may_v be_v note_v in_o bring_v this_o place_n of_o all_o other_o against_o we_o &_o add_v that_o how_o soever_o the_o jesuit_n distinguish_v yet_o these_o sin_n the_o first_o motion_n of_o concupiscence_n which_o by_o the_o jesuit_n doctrine_n be_v so_o call_v figurativelie_o except_o we_o find_v mercy_n will_v find_v no_o figurative_a condemnation_n thyrdlie_o we_o may_v behold_v and_o lament_v the_o pitiful_a desperate_a resolution_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o see_v and_o knowe_a their_o own_o weakness_n impudency_n yet_o to_o cover_v their_o misery_n dare_v abuse_v forge_n and_o falsify_v plain_a authority_n as_o in_o this_o place_n this_o shameless_a creature_n have_v do_v in_o so_o many_o point_n for_o first_o where_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n be_v forgyven_v in_o baptism_n he_o translate_v concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o forgyven_v in_o baptism_n secondlie_o where_o as_o s._n augustine_n say_v it_o be_v forgyven_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o or_o remain_v not_o he_o translate_v not_o that_o it_o be_v not_o sin_n thirdlie_o for_o impute_v into_o sin_n he_o translate_v impute_v as_o sin_n fowerthlie_a he_o cut_v of_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o where_o s._n augustin_n say_v concupiscence_n in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v be_v no_o sin_n as_o also_o the_o voorde_n immediate_o folowe_a and_o affirm_v that_o concupiscence_n remain_v but_o without_o guilt_n and_o consequent_o can_v not_o be_v sin_n have_v this_o man_n any_o conscience_n any_o truth_n any_o good_a meaning_n any_o spark_n of_o grace_n seek_v he_o to_o instruct_v or_o to_o deceyve_v to_o prove_v and_o defend_v or_o to_o cover_v &_o dissemble_v be_v this_o he_o which_o protest_v such_o sincerity_n in_o his_o deal_n as_o before_o god_n and_o angel_n be_v this_o the_o credit_n of_o a_o puritan_n protestant_n o_o how_o miserable_a be_v those_o people_n which_o hang_v their_o soul_n upon_o the_o trust_n of_o such_o dissemble_n and_o deceyve_a man_n and_o this_o for_o the_o first_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n charke_n for_o his_o sentence_n of_o s._n augustin_n for_o he_o cit_v two_o chapiter_n in_o one_o book_n the_o first_o thereof_o have_v as_o you_o have_v see_v the_o other_o have_v no_o one_o word_n tendinge_v that_o way_n but_o clean_o to_o the_o contrary_n for_o s._n augustin_n lay_v down_o &_o prove_v our_o position_n of_o purpose_n in_o much_o more_o ample_a and_o vehement_a manner_n than_o i_o can_v against_o m_o charke_n and_o show_v it_o also_o by_o example_n how_o the_o apostle_n call_v concupiscence_n sin_n improper_o concup_n voco_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quia_fw-la peccato_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la iam_fw-la in_o regeneratis_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ipsa_fw-la peccatum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la voco_fw-la lingua_fw-la locutio_fw-la quam_fw-la facit_fw-la lingua_fw-la &_o manus_fw-la voco_fw-la scriptura_fw-la quam_fw-la facit_fw-la manus_fw-la concupiscence_n be_v call_v sin_n because_o it_o be_v make_v in_o we_o by_o original_a sin_n whereas_o itself_o be_v not_o sin_n now_o in_o the_o regenerate_a improperlye_o even_o as_o the_o speech_n which_o the_o tongue_n make_v be_v call_v the_o tongue_n and_o the_o write_n which_o the_o hand_n make_v be_v call_v the_o hand_n the_o very_a same_o have_v s._n augustin_n against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_n towch_v s._n paul_n calling_n of_o concupiscence_n sin_n 11._o which_o in_o deed_n proper_o be_v no_o sin_n except_o consent_v be_v yield_v thereunto_o as_o there_o s._n augustin_n prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o paul_n himself_o wherefore_o m._n charke_n do_v fraudulent_o allege_v his_o word_n against_o the_o same_o julian_n to_o prove_v that_o all_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n for_o s._n augustin_n say_v only_o of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a 3._o that_o it_o be_v sin_n and_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o cause_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v true_a of_o concupiscence_n in_o general_a as_o it_o comprehend_v all_o her_o branch_n and_o all_o estate_n of_o man_n for_o concupiscence_n be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n in_o all_o man_n in_o they_o that_o gyve_v consent_v it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n in_o they_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v it_o be_v sin_n itself_o whether_o they_o gyve_v consent_n or_o no._n but_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o needful_a that_o all_o these_o point_n shall_v be_v verify_v in_o everye_o particular_a branch_n of_o concupiscence_n example_n as_o for_o example_n manslaughter_n in_o general_n comprehend_v murder_n chance_v medley_n execution_n by_o justice_n and_o the_o like_a and_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o branch_n a_o man_n may_v say_v