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A63786	Truth's triumph over errour: or, The routing of the seven false prophets who have all lived in London in lesse then these 20. years: (viz.) Farnam, Bull, weavers, Robbins, Garment husbandmen. Smith, a shooe-maker. Muggleton and Reeve, taylors. Wherein is clearly discovered and confuted all their most blasphemous, damnable, false and rediculous tenents. Themselves and falshoods opened, anatomized, and dissected, and found to be no better then impostures, liers, deluders, and spirituall gypsies. Proved by time the mother of truth, reason, scripture, and their own contradictions. Written by Stephen Proud-love, a lover of the truth.		1653 (1653)	Wing T3172A; ESTC R219214	8,882	17

frighted and terrified the hearts and spirits of some other simple hearted people just as the Church of Rome doth by their excommunications The Author of this short Treatise hearing of these men who assumed unto themselves such power did desire to be acquainted with them and at the first meeting did aske them these three questions viz. 1. Whether God had the person of a man and whether he had an audible voice 2. Whether or no they could erre or were incident to failings as other men were 3. Whether or no they could write scriptures so good as those which are already written by Moyses the other Prophets the Evangelists and the Apostles To all which they thus or to the like effect answered To the first that God had an audible voice and that he was in the person of a man from al eternity and that there was not is not nor never shall be any other God but the same Lord Jesus Christ which was born of the Virgin Mary and suffered at Jerusalem and that the world and all things else was only and alonely made by him and that when this Lord Jesus Christ was incarnate and in his minority and at his sufferings and in the grave then there was no God in heaven nor in earth the government of all things for that time being committed to Moyses and Elias and whatsoever God should be professed by any they had power both to curse and to damne them and their professours To the second they plainly declared that they could not erre nor faile and were both alike minded for they had an infallible spirit by the which they were able to discern all things neither could any man deceive them neither could any sickness or any disease seize upon their bodies neither should they ever commit any sinne neither at their death should they have the like fear and trouble in the least as the Lord Jesus Christ had when he suffered To the third they answered that Moyses the other Prophets and Apostles had never the like light given them nor the like power in spirituall things as they had they being under the third and last dispensation as they terme it the dispensation of the spirit therefore able to write Scriptures more then they al and that there hath not been any man these fourteen hundred years past that ever hath spoken truth from or truely opened any text of scripture till they received their Comission To all which I thus reply I do believe and declare unto the whole world that that eternall everliving and all sufficient only wise God who had his being of himselfe and in himselfe sending forth all things as of so from himselfe and againe retracting or drawing all things into himselfe againe is not to be comprehended known or declared to be what he is in his Eternall or Essentiall being for how can the Mortall declare or make manifest the Immortall the Creature the Creator for the pot at furthest onely manifests that it is made but doth not know his Maker neither can it so much as know his voyce Then how can mortall man know the voyce of the Immortall God which makes the Rocks to rend in pieces Ye how terrible was the voyce of God to the Israelites at Mount Sinai that they never desired to hear it any more wherefore they desired that Moses might speak with them and not God any more And secondly whereas they do declare that they cannot sin at all nor erre at any time nor fail in their judgements I my self with many others can witnesse severall passages to the contrary and let all reasonable men judge if rash anger rash judgement censuring and back-biting be not sinne Again I with many others is able to testifie against them to their faces how they have failed and erred in judgement for whereas they both affirmed that they were both endued lighted and guided by one and the self-same infallible spirit that no man was able to deceive them or go about it but they should be able to descern their hypocrisie or deceit They having in my hearing and in the hearing of some others pronounced the sentence of Damnation upon a man I asked whether or no this sentence could not be revok'd upon the parties humiliation and acknowledgement of his Errour the one of them to wit Muggleton answered it might then I asked the other to wit Reeve the same question and he answered and said It could not by meanes whereof they did contend one against another which shews they were of a different judgement Again the said pretended Prophet Reeve having in my sight with a many others pronounced the sentence of blessedness and salvation to a Gunsmith in the Minories his fellow Prophet did within a quarter of an hour pronounce the sentence of damnation upon the same party and also the blasting of his Estate Again not long since being in company with the foresaid two pretended Prophets and some other company there came in a Gentleman whom they had damned three months before or thereabouts but the said Gentleman not taking notice that ever he had seen them before carrying himself very fairly and seemingly did approve of their judgements by which meanes he did obtain their good liking insomuch that they both declared they had nothing against him but that he might have the Blessing whereupon the Gentleman called them a couple of Loger-heads saying Are you the Prophets of the Lord doth not know that ye have already sentenced me to damnation by all which good people ye may see their gross failings and that they may be subject to sin errour and mistakes notwithstanding their great boasting that if any should come into their company whom before they had cursed they should discern and know him although he should never so much disguise himself And thirdly these two pretended Prophets do not only assume unto themselves a Prerogative and power above and beyond Moses the other Prophets and Apostles in the knowledge of the mind and wil of God in the Scriptures but also that they can both adde to these Scriptures and diminish from them saying Whatsoever they shall not approve of to be Scripture is no Scripture at all and so hath cut off all Salomons Writings and the Book of Job to be any part of the Scripture by means whereof there is a great stumbling block laid before the weak who in the sincerity of their hearts are seeking the Lord and hath ever had these Books in esteem as all other Scripture nay and some have said that they may as well question all the other Scriptures as these Now I would question whether or no these men that thus adde to and diminish at their pleasure from the word of God be not such as comes under that sentence mentioned in the 22. of the Revel Cursed is every one that addes or diminishes from the words which are written in this Book and so the plagues which are written therein to be justly due unto them

And likewise that these pretended Prophets may not be the same false deceiving Prophets which our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ bids use beware and take heed of in the 7. of Matth. ver 15. therefore I have here inserted their Tenets as followeth Severall Tenets holden by these pretended Prophets 1. THe God whom they worship and serve hath not onely an Audible voyce but also the body of a man discribing him to be a little shorter then the Authour of this Book and a little taller then the said Prophet Reeve nay he was the pitch of a yong Gentleman whom they have blessed 2. That there is a place or Earth above the starrs wherein this bodily God doth reside and out of which he created this naturall Earth upon which we live and that in that upper or Firmamentall Earth there are Seas with all maner of Fishes and that there is all manner of Beasts and Fowls and there is the place or habitation of the blessed Angels as also of the Saints aforesaid 3. That the body and soul doth both depart this life and dye together and so continueth unto the Resurrection 4. That after the Generall Resurrection this Earth upon which we now live shall be a place whereupon all the damned shall reside and be tormented for ever 5. This shall be the torment wherewith the said damned should be tormented that their body should be as Brimstone and their spirit as fire there to burn and be tormented for ever and that there should be no outgoing nor incomming of any of the sences whereby they should have the least comfort or pleasure in any thing 6. Whereas some have declared and a many more may declare that they have received the assurance to themselves of Gods Love in Jesus Christ yet these doth declare that it is nothing nor of no worth if they should declare the contrary whereby they make themselves to be above God himself 7. That whosoever did not work for them were all sure as there were a God in Heaven damn'd to all Eternity There being once an old man in company whom they had formerly damd spoke to the Prophet Reeve to fall to his work again he did plainly declare in the hearing of a many that as sure as there was a God in heaven whosoever did not work for them was damn'd to all eternity further saying Old man there 's a doctrine for you 8. That most of all those who had drawn the Sword in these warrs were as sure as there was a God in Heaven damn'd to all Eternity and that Generall Cromwell himself if he should despise their Commission they would pronounce him a damn'd Reprobate 9. That all Ministers Lawyers Physitians and whosoever goeth to Law or whosoever taketh Physick for the recovery of their healths are in the state of damnation 10. That all those whom they damn in this world should never neither in this world nor in the world to come see or know any other Gods but them 11. That whosoever they declared or sentenced to be blessed should daily more and more encrease in faith and more and more daily should have power over sin and at a time one whom they bad blessed declaring plainly that he had not as yet found any such effects wrought on him they told him that their faith should uphold him till he had received faith of his own 12. One asking them how they should attain to their faith they told him that they must cast away al Ordinances as praying hearing and the like and beleeve them to be those two Prophets before-mentioned sent of God 13. If that God should not maintain them without working they would never serve such a God 14. That their God is wiser and knoweth more to day then yesterday and so continually encreaseth in wisdom knowledge 15. That the Judges of this Land together with the Ministers and Magistrates are those that shall be cast into the Lake alive 16. If they should be brought before Authority for this their judgement or practice they should not be half so fearfull to suffer death as Jesus Christ himself was I have also often observed one cheating trick or Policie of these last 2 pretended Prophets That when any came to reason with them and to put them to it they would presently pronounce the sentence of damnation against such a one meerly to shun all manner of Discourse with such saying That they were not to reason or bold Conferrence with the damned Now I come to a conclusion and therefore in the feare of God and all tendernesse of affection I would entreat all people to be carefull and take heed of all such false deceiving and deluding spirits which comes forth with such Messages to damn and to curse and sayes that they are sent of God for that end and purpose which in my judgement is one of the horridest blasphemies that ever I heard of and a doctrine so contrary to the tenor of the whole Gospel for our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in the 5. Chapter of Matthew pronounces many blessings but these two saith That no blessing of God shall be available upon any that shall in the least gainsay them the power of blessing and cursing being committed to them as the Instruments of God for that purpose and this also is far contrary to Pauls Doctrine who saith Bless and curse not knowing that ye are thereunto called and it hath been ever the property of all Saints in all Ages whensoever they came to the knowledge that they themselves were blessed of God not onely to refrain from Cursing but even with all their hearts and souls to Bless and to rejoyce themselves in Blessing but I have known these two pretended Prophets with all eagernesse and bitternesse of spirit to double and redouble their Curses upon some calling them Devills and Reprobated Devils meerly for not approving their judgements and therefore for my owne part I leave them to the judgement of those who shall have occasion to try them hereafter And so I conclude with these following Verses ¶ Here followeth some Verses of the Authors upon the word BROTHER to one he so called in London B BLest is that Light that whomsoere doth see Doth weare the Crown of Immortalitie In this Light life is and no death at all There 's all rejoycings there 's no Funerall R RUn through the world you body blood bone Take Scenses with you and you eight makes one Yet were your eight 10000 eight times more Ye were no neerer then you were before O O How the Light rejoyceth in it self It hath no respect to your worldly pelfe It doth not grow nor doth it ere decline It knows no degree between thine and mine T THe Darknesse judges all things to be light How can this be when they are meer dark night Unlesse it be as I beleeve and say That they do speak it out of a dark day H HE that 's in Light the light and he is one