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A73348 [The principal points which are at this daye in controuersie, concerning the holly supper and of the masse.] Viret, Pierre, 1511-1571.; Shoute, J. 1579 (1579) STC 24782; ESTC S125565 86,955 173

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some monster Albeit that it should be alwayes one selfe matter very good and very excellent yet for all that the workemāship should be greatly different and the matter very euill applied in as much as by applying thereof they should destroy a good very faire piece of work to make one both euil and filthy And by the same meane a man should do great wrong to the king in so counterfaiting his image It is not enough then to take the matter whereof the Prophetes the Apostles haue made the worke of the Lord if it be not euenly laide squared and wrought as they them selues haue done it For if any man make an other worke contrary to theirs and by the which theirs should be destroyed the stuffe which men haue taken of thē is not well applied Wherefore so farre of is it that the worke is the better because of the same that on the contrary it is more worthy of blame Thus much for the shuting vp of the mouthes of those which doe alleadge the good woordes and the good things which are in the Masse if they cannot otherwise shew the goodnes thereof and that there be nothing at all in it that is good and applied as it ought to be Chapter ix Of the diuision of the matters which shal be handled hereafter and of the principall pointes which are at this day in controuersie concerning the Supper and the Masse I Wil now come to the principal points which do moue vs by good reason not in any wise to allowe the masse being of the same forme and qualitie that at this day it is set forth vnto vs of the which pointes I will firs make a generall diuision and afterward a more special and then I will propone and expounde them all the one after the other euery one of them in his place The first diuision which is the most generall shall conteine fiue pointes of the which fiue pointes I will after ward make more special diuisions The first is touching the matter and all the pieces and inuentions and humaine tradicions in generall whereof it is compounded The second is of the wordes of the same in speciall And the third is of the signes and of the things signified by them The fourth of the prayers The fift of the collectes As touching the second point which concerneth in special the wordes of the masse I deuide it againe into three points The first is touching the language of them The second concerning the pronunciation The thirde concerning the application of them And for the third point which is concerning the signes and the things signified I do deuide them againe into six other pointes The first is the transubstantiation of the signes The second the adoration of them The third the reseruation and application which vsed beside the vse of the supper The fourth is of the sacrifice The fift is of the cōmunion The sixt of the application aswell of the sacrifice as of the communion both for the dead and for the liuing Now concerning the first the fourth and the fifth Of the fiue pointes which I did in the first place set forth in generall I doe not at all make any other more speciall diuision of them Now all these pointes ioyned and comprehended together do amount to the number of 12. the which I am not determined here to handle all at large but onely summarily to the ende that men may vnderstand which be the principall differences to agree vpon between the reformed Church and the Romaine Church concerning the Sacrament of the supper and that of the Masse Chapter x. Of the first general point which is of the whole matter of the Masse and of the additions vvhich men haue giuen to the supper of the Lorde in the same by the vvhich they haue cleane ouerthrovven his institution THe first point then that we doe condemne in the Masse is that ingeneral there are so many inuentions traditions and humane additiōs to the Lordes institution so many chaunges and disguisings of the same and so many ceremonies and foolish and doultishe superstions and insufferable Idolatries that there remaineth in the same no kinde of forme of the pure ordinance of the Lord but that it is there wholy ouerthrowen And by the same meane the expressed word of God is there openly violated in as much as it is so often and so expressedly forhidden by the same in the holy scriptures to adde or to diminish any thing to or from the lawe statutes and ordinances of the Lorde or to go out either on the right hand or els on the left For the which cause Saint Paul meaning to correct the abuses which were already in his time committed in the supper among the Corinthes said plainely setting foorth the institution of Iesus Christ I haue receiued of the Lord that which also I haue deliuered vnto you And after ward he expoundeth it point by poynt in what sorte Iesus Christe did institute and administer this holy Sacrament and ordeined it to be administred afterward in his Church wherein he ment to giue plainely to vnderstand not onley to the Corinthes but also to the whole Churche of God as well for that present time as for all the time to come that the institution of the Lord is pure whole and perfect what rule there was and is to be obserued in such matter without adding any thing to it or diminishing chāging and disguising any thing from it or in it For if Saint Paul which was plucked vp euen to the third heauen and who sawe there secrets incomprehensible to man and hath so faire and excellent a testimonie of his vocatiō by Iesus Christ him selfe neither would nor durst take in hande such a matter but did content him selfe with the simple ordinance of the Lord and tied him selfe to the fame rule and did drawe thereunto the whole Church what pride is this in those which dare vndertake more then he yea more then the very sonne of God him selfe did These which are so audacious ds they not feare at all the curses which are denounced by Saint Iohn in the Apocalypse to all those which either adde or diminish any thing to or from the doctrine reuealed by the Lord for that which he saith in his Apocalypse doth no lesse agree to all the rest of the body of the holy scriptures then to it selfe for so much as there is no canonicall booke which is of lesse authoritie And if Saint Paul did assubiecte the very Angels to the Gospell which he had preached Note who dare set him selfe vp aboue them Chapter xi Of the second generall point which is of the wordes of the Masse and of the diuision of the same into his members and first of the language of the Masse AS concerning the second point which is touching the wordes of the Masse we haue to note first that albeit that it were so that there were not one onely worde in the
is compared to the stocke of the vine and his disciples to the braunches ioyned to the stocke and they which are not at al graffed nor ioyned together with him are cōpared to the braunches that are cut off from the stocke And therefore that this benefit is represented and communicated vnto vs by Baptisme and howe wee doe put off the olde man and put on the newe Saint Paul saieth that by Baptisme wee are dead and buried with Iesus Christ into his death and risen againe with him and planted and graffed and incorporated into him and that all those which are baptized haue put on Iesus Christ And thus much concerning the benefite of regeneratiō and of baptisme which is the Sacrament and testimonie thereof whereby the Lorde witnesseth vnto vs howe that he doeth renewe and regenerate vs in his sonne Iesus Christe into a newe life and doth refourme vs to his image by the vertue of his holy spirite and doth adopte vs by the spirit of adoption and doth aduowe and receiue vs for his children into his house which is his Church For the which cause we are baptized in the name of the Father and of the Sonne and of the holy Ghost Thus much concerning the nature and faults and very apparant to those which vnderstand what sacraments are and doe knowe the nature of them and also that of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ and of the vnion and the distinction of his diuine humaine natures in the person of him The first is touching the maner of expounding the sacramentall wordes of the supper The 2. concerning the signes of the same and the abolishing of them The 3. cōcerning the thinges that they signifie For the first they giue to the sacramentall woordes by Iesus Christ pronounced in the Supper an exposition altogether newe and strange which cannot in any wise agree with any kind of sacramētal speach that is in al the holy scripture like vnto that which Iesus Christ hath vsed in the Supper For first of a sacramentall proposition they wil make a natural proposition By meane whereof they haue already ouerthrowne the nature of the Sacraments For if I say of the bread of the Supper This bread is the body of Christ there is no apparance to take it naturally so as when I say Iesus Christ is man and Iesus Christ is God but this proposition must be taken sacramentally forsomuch as we must alwaies take the signification of the termes wordes which men doe vse according to the matter whereof men speake the nature of the same Wherfore if mē speake of natural things the wordes must be taken naturally but if men speake of spirituall and sacramentall thinges they must be vnderstoode spiritually and sacramentally If there be then sundry sortes of sacramental speaches in the scripture like to that which Iesus Christ did vse in the Supper there is no reason to take them in one sense in some sacraments and in an other cleane contrary in some others for so much as the matter is alwaies sacramentall and the maners of speache alwaies like And on the other side it is a great fault to take the wordes in their proper and naturall signification when they should be vnderstoode by figure and that the meaning of them cannot be true otherwise as they ought to bee vnderstoode chiefly for two causes in the speache of Iesus Christ in the Supper which woordes are at this day in controuersie The first is because that al other maners of sacramental speaches like vnto this may not be otherwise vnderstoode nor also diuers others which resemble them The other is that if they be expounded otherwise there followe infinite absurdities the which do sufficiently declare that such an exposition may not agree with the meaning of the wordes of the Lorde And that which more is on which side soeuer the transsubstantiatours their adherentes may turne them selues they can neuer in any wise expounde these woordes according to the very sense that they would giue them but that they will bee constrayned to acknowledge and receyue some figure as I haue very amply declared all these matters in diuers other bookes I say further also that they shall not bee able to finde in all the holy Scriptures any maner of speach which carieth with it transsubstanciation and conuersion of one substance into an other like to that that Iesus Christ hath vsed in his supper Wherfore is it then that they will here disguise and transsorme the language of the holy Ghost by a new exposition whereof they haue neither testimonie nor example in the whole scriptures namely in the matter of sacraments where they haue many to the contrarie For albeit they say they will take the wordes of Iesus Christe simply and according to the letter Yet for all that they doe it not when they doe expounde the meaning of them according to their doctrine For Iesus Christe hath not spoken that which they say by their exposition Chapter ii Of the abolishing of the signes of the Supper and of the things signified by them and consequently of all the sacrament by the Romaine Transsubstanciation THe other fault which is cōcerning the signes confisteth in that that by their exposition whereby they would establish transsubstanciation they doe abolish the material signes of the supper conuerting them into the thing which they signifie or at least they do confounde them both together whereas they should be distinguished the one from the other For euen as a sacrament cannot be a true sacrament without the woord of God no more can it be without material signes which are ioyned to that word as seales thereof Now if the substance of bread and wine were transsubstanciate and conuerted into that of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ there should be there no more bread nor wine by consequent there should be no more materiall signes forasmuch as there is none other but the bread and the wine From whence it should also folowe that there should be at all no sacrament And so willing to conuert the signes into the thing which they signifie they haue neyther the one nor the other For in abolishing the signes they abolish also the thyng which should be signified by them For it can not bee there offered nor communicated sacramentally as it ought to be set foorth and communicated if the meanes be taken awaye which the Lord hath ordayned to make vs partakers thereof And for to alleadge that the signes doe alwaies remayne signes albeit that they be conuerted into the thing which they should signifie because that their accidents do alwayes remaine whole the which do there remayne for signes that is not to satisfie the question and the difficultie but to make it yet greater For as the accidents may not be without substaunce no more may they be accidentes of substances if they be not agreeable to their
Romaine masse the which albeit that it be not of the proper substance of the Supper yet for all that I thought good to set forth the same because that the auncient Church was not without these Collects namely when they did celebrate the supper of that which they did also leuy the bread the wine that they did distribute to the faithfull in the fame the which were there dedicated cōsecrated in such sort as I haue here tofore already declared to be there signes of the body of the bloud of the Lorde Chapter xxi A briefe gathering of the matters handled in this booke I Do omit very many other points forsomuch as I wold only bring forth such as were most principal most intolerable the which we may in no wise allowe without reiecting of Iesus Christ ouerthrowing wholy al the sacrament of the holy supper obseruation therem of the true aunciēt Church No more haue I also determined to make many proofs the more to confirme that which I haue set forth against the points that which we do condemne aswel because that the arguments which I haue brought forth to the same purpose may suffice such as wil be satiffied with reason and will not fight against all manyfest trueth as for that also that I haue handled these matters very largely in diuers other bookes in the which men shal finde arguments testimonies sufficient to confirme more largely that which I haue here handled more briefely And forsomuch as the Romaine doctors and catholikes doe make their chiefe buckler of the sacrifice and of the order of Melchisedec for the defence of their masse and of the sacrifice of the same I haue made an other booke of purpose vpon that matter in the which I doe shewe by apparant testimonies arguments taken out of the holy scriptures howe that the foundation which they lay vpon that order of Melchisedec doeth more shake downe the building which they do build thereupon thē it doth sustaine it how contrary it is to the Sacrifices that they would build thereupon Wherefore I will nowe end this treatise Note wherein I haue first set foorth the principal reasons which mought leade the Romaine catholikes to maintaine their masse as they do maintaine it to the which I haue made answere And then I haue set forth the points which doe leade the catholikes of the reformed Church to reiect the same being such as it is at this present in the Romaine Church For as I haue already declared wee are not at all in controuersie concerning the institution and obseruation of the Sacrament of the Supper the which we doe all confesse but the different is whether the masse such as it is at this day in vse in the Romaine Church be this Sacrament of the holy Supper or no whether it be the true supper or else if they wil cal it the masse of the true aunciēt Church or else an other bastard masse into the 〈…〉 the supper of the Lorde ●●d the forme 〈◊〉 diuine seruice of the true auncient Ch●●● 〈◊〉 bene conuerted and transformed 〈…〉 I haue reduced these principal 〈…〉 ●●ereof we are in controuersie with 〈◊〉 ●●●●raine catholikes and the which I haue han●●ed here before first into fiue of the which I haue also deuided some into diuers articles in sort that in the whole I make to the nomber of xii by that order that they are set downe in the table placed in the be ginning of this booke after the Aduertisement FINIS Isai 29. Mat. 15 Mark. 7 ●●maunde ●●ndry ●●●nes of 〈◊〉 supper Of go●● 〈◊〉 Instru●●tion Similitude ●ee ●●e 1. 〈◊〉 1. ●ee 5. point● Deut. 4 1● Apoc. 22. Jos 1. Eze. 10. 1. Cor. 11. ●or 12. ●oc 22. ●●te well 〈◊〉 ●onclusiō ● Cor. 11. High mas●●s Iustinia● new Const 123. In excellēt Instruc●●on Note well ●his Matt. 28. Note wel ●his Mat. 26. Mark. 14. Luk. 22.1 Cor. 11. Note Iere. 23. ●ote well ●●is The fau●● of the p●●ple Note well Demand Note the well Note well Note wel Example An oth●● Exod. 3. Aug. in Ioh. Ho●● 13. ●●ene 17 ●●●t 13. Note wel● this ●ote ●egenera●●on Conu●●● this we●● Note w●● Way wel● this Note th● ●say 29 ●●g in ●oh Hom. 〈◊〉 ●eplie ●swere Cōsider very welthre● poynts Consyder this Excellēt instruction Example A good instruction Example Consyd●● this well Cōmunicantes A good lesson ●ote August de ciuit dei lib. 21. c. 25. In 10. Tra. 26. c. 6. 3. things in a true sacrament Example Conclusion ●pinion of ●he Roman●istes Conclusiō Note this ●mande ●ote this Con●●o● this ●at ●●gs are ●●mon ●●per to ●se sacra●uts 〈◊〉 good in●uction ●oh● 18.11 Note this ansplan●tion ●n 15. ●●gnifica●●●n of bap●●●me ●●m 6. ●●l 3. Note these propofitions ●acramē● speches ●●d their ●●●●e vse Note 〈◊〉 ●●te well ●●s Signes ●●gniftyng thing sig●ifted Note this Note th● argume● An othe● argumen● other ●ument Note well his argument Mirac●● Workes naturall supernat●rall ●nfider ●s absur●●e ●gument Note thi● great ab●ditie ●ngnlar struction ●●ample Note 〈◊〉 distinct● Instruct● Or vain imaginat●ons or phantasies ●ote Note wel Acticle● our fai●● cleane o●● thrown● Note th● Con●●● well 〈◊〉 chapte●● Take t●● worde of God in h● true sense ●onsider ●ell this ●●atter Exposition in matter of sacraments Note this Note th● matter Note this well ●e first ●our ●icer de ●at deo li. 3. Affirmation Note t●● idolatrie Luk. 22. ● 1. Cor. 11. Consider this well Abuse of the Persians ●ote well Where the ●se of the ●cramēt is Doctri● of the a● uersarie Note t● argume Rom. 14 〈◊〉 ordi●e of the ●de vio●ed and ●ane ouer●owne ●surditie Demande Consyde● this ●ote ●onsides ●is ●ur God ●s inuisible An i●●i●ble world He must 〈◊〉 worshipp●● in spirit trueth Iohn 4. The very words of the Lord ●ranssub●antiation ●●onght in●● the church ●bout the ●●ert 1060. Nicholas ●he second Gregorie ●e seuēth Honorius the third 1226. Urban the fourth Note we this Romaine Apostles ● point Note this cunning Conside● well this point concerning sacrifice Demande Note this cunning Note this combat Note the ●stitution 〈◊〉 the Lord 〈◊〉 matter ●f great ●aight Iesus Christ the priest sacrificer sacrifice temple and altar Blouddy 〈◊〉 not bloud● Note this Demande ●om 5 ●undry sa●●fices Rom. 12. Psal. 50. Hebru 13. Auncient celebration of the supper Not sacrifices propiciatories The whole life of christ was a perpetual sacrifice Iohn 19. Actes 4. things in singular recōmendaciō The first deceite Sacrific● not blou● An argument of great waight Confider his well 〈◊〉 cōmaundement Luke 22. 1. Cor. 11. One Lord gaue him selfe for vs vpon the crosse Note th● Ebrew n●ner of speach The latin translator ●●te Consider this 2. Dece● ●ante of ●●fts men Replc● ●we●● 〈◊〉 ●ry 53 ●hu 1 ●et 2 ●or 5 ●hu 19. ●●od 12.13 A doubl● regarde the passeo Our del●uerauce Sacrific● with sa●●ment ●or 5. ●●●●de●●his ●ge Note th● Exod. 12. Mat. 26. Mar. 14. Luk. 22. 1. Cor. 11. The word● of Moise● words ●ar lord ●fferent Luk. 22. 1. Cor. 11. Falsaries of the testament ●om 6 ●eb 9. The vertue if this sarifice Propiciatorie sacrifice by wh●● Intent of Christ ●●se ●ote well ●●s 〈◊〉 most sin●●lar note ●bedience ●etter then ●●crifice Who is a ●ufficient ●ostie to God. Consyd● well thi● Way well this cōclusiō throug●out ●●hu 14. ●traunge ●●nsequen●●s ●he vertue ●f these cō●●quences Vertue ●●finite This sacr●fice may not be rei●terated Sacrifice cōmemoratiue ●niuty ●●one by the ●omaine ●●iests ●illain ●●affique ●emande Stella cle●●corum Matt. 21. Mar. 11. Luk. 19. Iohn 2. Eze. 1● A notable argument ●o sell one thing for an other Now the supper in●● be the supper ●emande 1. Cor. 11. Note these two thing● ●oce wel ●onc ●onst ●es 13. Consider ●ell this Replie Demaund An other demaund Demaund Vicars Excōmunication Note thi● instructi●● Excommunication Consider well this The exco●municate● of the auncient Church ●otable ●●lts 1. Cor. 1● Note th● abuse of 〈◊〉 Supper Example ●acramēt 〈◊〉 vnion Cor. 10. Iohn 11. Note this ●●struction ●blessed ●nion Note thi● diuision ●ote this ●fference Note th● inequalit● ●e gods the ●estes ●hat gods 〈◊〉 offered 〈◊〉 sacrifice Mat. 26. Mar. 14. Luke 22. Actes 2.1 Cor. 10.11 Esai 58. ●ote Horrible deceite Note this Note th● instructi●● Note the names ●ote this ●●●truction Note these ●archaun●ises Note 〈◊〉 these ca●ses folo●ing ●●nclusiō ●emande A worthy sentence ●●n 10. ●onsyder ●●ll this ●om 10. ●hat faith 〈◊〉 ●xample ●●a 2. ●om 2. Note wel this chapter Aug. in Ioa● Ho. 80. cōtra Faust li. 16. de doctr Chri. li. 11. ●●●uctiō meane ●he sacra●●nts ●ote this ●imparisō 〈◊〉 good in●●ruction God dist●●buteth h● graces as pleaseth him Example ●●ample ●onsider ●●ll this ●tructiō Note Ephe. 5. Rom. 6. 1. Cor. 10 Note we● this instruction Iohn 6. An horri●le sacri●edge 〈◊〉 true say●ng Note this De Condist 2. C. qum ●omne Oriestes Iubaistes Note Duran 〈◊〉 lib. 4. Ru●● de fract 〈◊〉 Bonau i● Sed dist 〈◊〉 Hilper i● Ele. de E●cha Note the● faultes ●●●ment ●●te ●●t● 14 ●●b 11. 〈◊〉 other ●●ofe ●om 10. ●ote ●onsyber ●●ll this Esai 2● Mat. 1● Mat. 7. Note 〈◊〉 couclu●●●●● No●● ●●aund ●●●at ●●quence ●●●der 〈◊〉 ●●●e Note this Deman●● ●●hee ●●und ●●swer ●ote Hebr● 1. Co● Ephe● 1. Iōh● Apo. 〈◊〉 Iohn● Acte● 1. T●● 1. Pe●●● Hort● treas●● gain●● sus 〈◊〉 ●●ndaciō maine infallicensure ●ote very ●ell this 2 poi●● 〈◊〉 3.8 ●●n 2. 〈◊〉 9.10 ●●hn 2. ●istinctiō aduo●tes ●emaund Co●● deme●● promi● 2. Co●● Con●● ●mes ●●tes 2.4 Cor. 16. Cor. 8 9. ●al 1.8 6. Tim. 3. ●ote this ●der Thes 3. Tim. 5. Note here that th autor speaketh of these offices as they are in the corruption of the Romaine Church not of those that in good reformed Churches are diligent preaching Arch deacons Deacons c. for such be not vaine titles but necessary offices Actes 6.1 Tim. 3. Dery gresacriledg● Consider his wel Sacri●●● of Mel●●●sedec ❧ Imprinted at London by Christopher Barker Printer to the Queenes Maiestie 1579.