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A69830 A vindication of the Parliament of England, in answer to a book written by William Molyneux of Dublin, Esq., intituled, The case of Irelands being bound by acts of Parliament in England, stated by John Cary ... Cary, John, d. 1720? 1698 (1698) Wing C734; ESTC R22976 59,166 136

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the_o bounty_n of_o the_o king_n and_o so_o i_o proceed_v to_o p._n 63._o where_o you_o say_v you_o will_v inquire_v how_o the_o statute-law_n and_o act_n of_o parliament_n make_v in_o england_n since_o the_o 9th_o of_o henry_n iii_o come_v to_o be_v of_o force_n in_o ireland_n and_o this_o you_o conclude_v p._n 64._o proceed_v from_o their_o be_v allow_v of_o and_o confirm_v in_o the_o several_a parliament_n there_o and_o that_o without_o this_o allowance_n they_o have_v not_o be_v obligatory_a in_o ireland_n for_o this_o you_o produce_v the_o irish_a statute_n of_o 10_o henry_n vii_o 10_o henry_n iu_o and_o 29_o henry_n vi_o the_o first_o you_o say_v allow_v of_o several_a act_n make_v in_o england_n to_o be_v law_n bind_v in_o ireland_n the_o two_o last_o prohibit_v any_o statute_n make_v in_o england_n from_o be_v in_o force_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o ireland_n unless_o they_o be_v allow_v and_o publish_v by_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n but_o yet_o these_o statute_n you_o 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act_n of_o parliament_n make_v in_o ireland_n you_o raise_v a_o fair_a objection_n against_o yourself_o pag._n 65_o 66._o viz._n that_o the_o very_a mention_v these_o act_n of_o parliament_n in_o ireland_n to_o prohibit_v english_a act_n of_o parliament_n from_o bind_v that_o kingdom_n do_v show_v that_o even_o in_o those_o day_n the_o parliament_n in_o england_n do_v claim_v this_o superiority_n but_o you_o do_v not_o so_o full_o answer_v it_o pag._n 66._o by_o say_v there_o be_v nothing_o so_o common_a as_o to_o have_v one_o man_n claim_v another_o man_n right_a and_o if_o bare_a pretence_n will_v give_v a_o title_n no_o man_n be_v secure_a for_o it_o appear_v this_o be_v no_o pretence_n or_o bare_a claim_n but_o a_o power_n the_o parliament_n of_o england_n once_o have_v and_o you_o do_v not_o tell_v we_o when_o they_o lose_v it_o you_o say_v p._n 67._o this_o superiority_n of_o the_o parliament_n of_o england_n have_v be_v doubt_v a_o great_a while_n ago_o and_o a_o great_a while_n strenuous_o oppose_v and_o absolute_o deny_v by_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n pray_v where_o be_v this_o strenuous_o oppose_v and_o in_o what_o manner_n do_v the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n ever_o enter_v any_o public_a protest_v against_o this_o superiority_n or_o do_v the_o kingdom_n of_o ireland_n ever_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n make_v here_o with_o intention_n to_o bind_v they_o no_o certain_o i_o never_o hear_v that_o any_o of_o they_o be_v reject_v but_o they_o have_v still_o be_v receive_v and_o then_o what_o need_n have_v the_o parliament_n of_o england_n to_o inquire_v far_o into_o this_o matter_n but_o you_o say_v p._n 68_o that_o we_o have_v not_o one_o single_a instance_n of_o a_o english_a act_n of_o parliament_n express_o claim_v this_o right_n of_o bind_v we_o what_o do_v you_o infer_v from_o thence_o i_o know_v not_o one_o single_a instance_n of_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n shall_v have_v a_o 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