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A94222 Reasons shewing that there is no need of such a reformation of the publique 1. Doctrine. 2. Worship. 3. Rites & ceremonies. 4. Church-government. 5. Discipline. As it is pretended by reasons offered to the serious consideration of this present Parliament, by divers ministers of sundry counties in England. By H.S. D.D. Chaplain to his Majestie in ordinary. H. S. (Henry Savage), 1604?-1672. 1660 (1660) Wing S762; Thomason E1043_7; ESTC R202300 19,132 32

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