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A47738 Considerations of importance to Ireland in a letter to a member of Parliament there; upon occasion of Mr Molyneaux's late book: intituled, The case of Ireland's being bound by Acts of Parliament in England, stated. Printed anno 1698. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1698 (1698) Wing L1125; ESTC R216404 9,161 10

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