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B07998 Anti-Mortonus or An apology in defence of the Church of Rome. Against the grand imposture of Doctor Thomas Morton, Bishop of Durham. Whereto is added in the chapter XXXIII. An answere to his late sermon printed, and preached before His Maiesty in the cathedrall church of the same citty.. Price, John, 1576-1645. 1640 (1640) STC 20308; ESTC S94783 541,261 704

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do_v he_o trow_v you_o believe_v himself_o to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n xvii_o the_o second_o general_n council_n hold_v at_o constantinople_n believe_v the_o supreme_a authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o church_n of_o rome_n sect_n i._o by_o what_o authority_n this_o council_n be_v call_v bellarmine_n in_o proof_n of_o the_o pope_n universal_a jurisdiction_n allege_v that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o general_a council_n of_o constantinople_n which_o be_v the_o second_o general_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o their_o epistle_n to_o pope_n damasus_n say_v they_o be_v gather_v by_o his_o mandate_n and_o confess_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o head_n and_o they_o the_o member_n this_o say_v you_o 109._o you_o pag._n 109._o be_v all_o that_o be_v object_v but_o upon_o a_o mistake_n what_o then_o be_v the_o mistake_n because_o bellarmine_n in_o the_o recognition_n of_o his_o work_n afterward_o observe_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o epistle_n of_o 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many_o excellent_a virtue_n from_o whence_o every_o man_n of_o judgement_n will_v easy_o understand_v how_o untrue_o you_o charge_v he_o with_o toss_v the_o emperor_n crown_n from_o his_o head_n to_o sport_v himself_o etc._n etc._n sect_n iv_o doctor_n morton_n contradict_v himself_o to_o show_v your_o spleen_n yet_o more_o against_o gregory_n the_o seven_o of_o who_o beside_o what_o have_v be_v say_v martinus_n polonus_n write_v 1087._o write_v apud_fw-la gen_v a_o 1087._o that_o by_o his_o prayer_n he_o wrought_v great_a miracle_n and_o lambertus_n schafnaburgensis_n ibid._n schafnaburgensis_n a_o put_fw-mi geneb_fw-mi ibid._n that_o he_o be_v endow_v with_o the_o gift_n of_o prophesy_n you_o say_v 175._o say_v pag._n 174._o sin_n 175._o it_o be_v confess_v that_o no_o pope_n in_o all_o the_o succession_n of_o s._n peter_n do_v depose_v any_o emperor_n before_o gregory_n the_o seven_o that_o be_v until_o a_o thousand_o and_o sixty_o year_n after_o christ_n you_o bring_v for_o your_o 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to_o this_o thesis_n you_o add_v a_o other_o 375._o other_o pag._n 375._o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v more_o subject_a to_o error_n than_o any_o other_o church_n christian_n which_o to_o be_v a_o shameful_a untruth_n appear_v out_o of_o the_o promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n make_v to_o s._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n which_o be_v error_n in_o faith_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n build_v on_o they_o and_o out_o of_o his_o prayer_n make_v for_o they_o that_o their_o faith_n shall_v not_o fail_v for_o that_o this_o promise_n of_o christ_n and_o this_o prayer_n be_v not_o make_v to_o s_o peter_n nor_o for_o he_o as_o he_o be_v a_o private_a man_n but_o as_o he_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o extend_v to_o all_o his_o successor_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v to_o secure_v they_o