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A letter to Mr. T.H. late minister: now fugitiue: from Sir Edvvard Hoby Knight. In answere of his first Motiue
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Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617.
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Francis only brother to Henrie 3. of France Records of the Parl. of Paris about Salcedo c. Prince of worthie memorie whose Diademe had not the Leaguers practises immaturely preuented our hope would haue been inferior to none During which my attendance I was often vpon x 4. King 5.19 necessarie duties both in field and in Court a present spectator of those Romish Rites to which he was then formerly addicted Yet whether it were my parents education or the gouernment of our State or the wandring humor of youth I cannot well tell but well I wot my considerations did more superficiallie slide ouer those toies then of late yeers they haue done When as being commanded by the King my Master to wait vpon a most Noble y Edward Earle of Hertford 1605. Personage whose religious worthie and bountiful cariage hath enriched our countrie with his eternall fame in his embassie to a most puissant prudent pious a Arch D.D. Princesse Cuius idaea Valesia mihi semper sacra I was careful to make that iournie as beneficiall to my experience as the time would permit Amongst many other occurrences as the view of the bleeding VVafer-cake c. I did not omit to informe my iudgement with sight of many your Masses both priuat and publicke wherein my eies discouered more anticke and iugling trickes then my eares had euer heard or my heart could otherwise haue beleeued In so much that as two of my selected b Antony Bright Edmond Lanksion people still present can yet witnesse my eares glowed Such hallowed perfumes as if the Priest or his idol had been scarce sweete such c Leaue your ducks your tuckes your apish toâ—es and serue God in spirit and truth facings such knocking 's such adorings yea and such eleuating as neuer was nor yet is in the Greeke mother Church vntil this day I am bold to make my owne experience an inducement to bring you vnfortunate Countriman to the consideration of that which otherwise by reason of your corrupted affection you would happilie not so carefullie obserue I will yet goe one step further that you may the better perceiue what comfort you are like to find at your last gaspe by that religion That deare Prince my first Master of whom I am glad to make so worthie mention hauing been trained from his infancie in the tract of his forefathers though in some d For Viue la Messe temerarie enterprises in his young yeares that neuer told thirty by trust of his enough aged but humorous counsellours seduced did yet through the whole course of his life find such weakenesse in those grounds which you now hold that at his death at Chaterthyerrie when there was no longer dallying he would admit neither Priest nor Confessor into his presence making publicke profession before those that were then present that he had sufficientlie confessed to God and that he had placed the whole hope of his saluation vpon Jesus Christ the Redeemer and Sauiour of the world The like did that thrice-excellent and renowned Princesse now in glorie Marie Queene of Scotland and Dowager of France make at her last end that She hoped to be saued by the merits of Christ alone And if present Agents of Princes may be credited it was euen so with that ouer-blindly deuout Hen. 3. whom your diabolicall Friar for the poore Kings loue to Friars massacred I will not say martyrized This was also the acknowledgement of Stephen Gardener a man of e Nephew to a Queene of England and Cosin German to a King à latre higher descent then commonlie reputed wheÌ„ a reuerend Bishop told him that he must look to be saued by Christ alone Yea my Lord quoth he it is so indeede but if you open that gap to the people it will goe wrong with the Church Long were the three forenamed Worthies grounded in the Romish schoole and of as deepe iudgement as most of their Ancestors and yet you see when they had cast vp all their accounts there was neither Purgatorie nor works of supererogation would doe any good the summa totalis in their bookes was Christ Jesus As for all other your superstitious trash it will be as the morning deaw in the heate of that last conflict all your other helpes and hopes will bee blowne away like a spiders webbe Now were it not an indecorum to descend from a consideration of so great moment which if your heart bee not sealed I should say seared with a hot iron out of Satans forge cannot but bee very forceable in your relenting thoughts I would also willinglie acquaint you what small encouragemeÌ„ts are like to attend your temporall life And the rather because it was this ignis fatuus which led you into those bogs wherein you are now bemired What your entertainment hath hitherto been I find f Pag. 96. you haue no great cause to make any great boast What it will be in these daies of peace your grand Superintendents wanting worke for themselues you may easilie iudge Policie will teach theÌ„ not to repose too much trust in him who g Proditionem non ProditoreÌ„ hath defiled his owne nest Common sense will informe them that he whom miserie hath drawne to them will serue them the like slipperie tricke and by equiualent discontents be soone driuen from them Reason likewise may tell you they will neuer hold him a fit Churchman whom they know to bee a h Vir vxorius womans maÌ„ Were there no other rub but this yet mee thinks your mariage should lay an impossibilitie to the charge of your groundlesse hopes Did I say your marriage nay your experience which can informe you of few or none of your Apostaticall forerunners whose age did reape the haruest which their youthfull yeeres had sowne After they had once serued i Spem pretio non emas Antichrists turne to stop their mouthes from any cofer-demaunds they were set in the forefront of the battell as mercenarie souldiers and kept at such a bay as that Tyrants vassals who at euery beck tumbled theÌ„selues downe from the top of a tower to shew their obedience You must haue more skil then your predecessors if you will fetch sweet water out of so salt a sea or grapes from thornes or figges from such thistles You may flatter your selfe as you please but Res tibi ad Restim redibit planissimè In stead of a Prelate of their Church they will make you a martyr in their red l Non equidem inuideo Kalender Thus shall you be faine to close vp a miserable life with a despicable and dismall end My earnest and hearty desire of your recouery from this your Lethargie hath made me somewhat more prolixe then the bounds of a letter will well endure The short is I haue cast my pen as Protogenes did his pencell If it hath fallen right it is well howsoeuer I am m Inuitum qui seruat
idem facit occidenti resolute My scope hath been to put you in remembrance from 1 whence 2 whither and 3 how you are fallen so that you may repent and doe the first workes Your errour in time reclaimed will be veniall your obstinacie will not onely bee dangerous but damnable if n Errare humanum perseuerare diabolicum perpetuall That you haue fallen the truth attributes it to your outward grieuances That you returne it will be acknowledged to come from your inward and more deliberate iudgement Neither will we doubt but that the broken bone being well set will bee much stronger then before It is now in your owne choice whether you will be o Si quis curet opem ferre dimittere fuuem non vis seruari healed or no. Now is the time either to raise or ruinate not onelie your fortunes but euen the finall estate both of bodie and soule The benefit you may perhaps bring to your Countrie by the discouerie of that which your trauel hath made knowne vnto you may make some satisfaction for your former reuolt vpon your true and loyall submission I am in good hope his Maiestie will reach out the scepter of his mercy vnto which his roiall nature is so inclinable that his Court of Parliament hath in my owne knowledge bin sundrie times an humble and earnest Petitioner to his Highnesse for the actuall execution of those necessarie lawes which were enacted long before he was inuested in this imperiall Crowne against malefactors of this nature You thinke I am sure your pen was very prodigall in wishing him the happinesse of p Pag. 51. Constantine but let me speak it without flatterie from which I was euer knowne to be naturally estranged whether you respect the gifts of nature or grace the quicknes of apprehension the deepenesse of iudgement the moderation of affections the weight of well seasoned speech in common discourse and scholasticall dispute the gouernmēt of State or the fatherly care in promoting the good of the Church he is if not many degrees before yet not one iot behind that worthie Constantine whose either politike neglect or fatall misfortune was such that he was not i◅itiated in that q Euseb de vit Const. lib. 4. ca. 62. Theodor Eccl. hist. lib. 2. ca. 32. holy Sacrament of Baptisme vntil a very little before his death And I am verily perswaded that in the matter of faith wherein you desire a parallel imitation he is so farre from learning of Constantine that he is able in single conference to grauell his best B B. were they now aliue to be his opposites and therefore not to take president of any of the weaker sex with whom you couertlie vpbraide him It is not my meaning to enlarge the lists of this comparison any further that which I would haue you know is this that as he is the vicegerent of the great King so is his throne supported as well by the pillar of r Dolet quoties cogitur esse serox Mercy as of Iustice I speake not this to hire your returne God bee thanked our land hauing great plentie of more skilfull warriers who dailie fight the Lords battell nor that we feare the venome of your poisonous pen which will bee soone beaten backe into your owne bowels but that your soule may not perish in the day of the Lord when if you thus persist the inexpiable crimes of blaspheming the true faith and drawing others into the same snare of death will be more heauie then millions of milstones about your neck Which fearefull iudgement that by timelie reconciliation you may escape these hastie lines shall bee seconded with my hearty Prayers From Queeneburrow Castle Festo S. Philip. Jacobi 1609. Edward Hoby THE PRINTER TO the Reader AS J had neere ended the Printing of the two former Letters J receiued a third from Sir Edward Hoby the originall now remaining with himselfe directed vnto him from the father of the said T. H. which he is desirous to insert for the better satisfaction of any vnpreiudicate Reader Faults escaped Pag. 32. lin 15. reade turned vp pag. 47. lin 9. reade Forsan aut desunt c. which is more aduantagious pag. 70. lin 21. reade as much as he pag. 71. lin vlt. reade mortuorum TO THE HON. SIR EDWARD HOBY Knight IT may please you to be aduertised that my vnhappie sonne Theophilus Higgons within some foure yeares or thereabouts after he was Master of Arts would needs forgoe the Vniuersity to go with my Lord of London that now is being then Elect Bishop of Glocester And in regard of his yong yeares I thought it verie vnfit perswaded him and commanded him to stay in the house till he were better read in Diuinitie and his iudgement therein in other things better rectified which I found to be verie defectiue My Lord for his part very honorably told me that he had perswaded him thereto and would be as carefull to do him good as if his time were spent in his house and after some two or three yeares would receiue him No perswasiōs might serue but he importuned my Lord so as from Oxford he went though I had told him before M. Ireland Schoole-master of Westminster and M. Iles the Proctor that if he would not be ruled by me and stay at Oxford my hope of his well doing was at an end When he had been lesse then two yeares with my Lord of London then Bishop of Glocester hee withdrew himselfe from his Lordship and made suite for the Lecture at S. Dunstons which I hearing of perswaded him from by my letters in the best manner I could for the reasons afore mentioned and the rather because I knew the Auditorie there to be verie learned and iudicious no perswasion might draw him backe to his Lord and Master though his Lordship wrote diuers letters to him to recall him to his place Afterwards a friend of mine told me that he thought he was in hand to marrie whereupon I wrote vnto him what I heard and my counsel aduice and charge withall His answere by Letter was that he was abused by the reporter and protested that as he desired Gods blessing and mine he neuer would marrie with any woman before I had knowledge of his liking that way and should giue approbation thereto this was about Michaelmas and he was maried in a clandestine manner before Christmas following whereof I neuer knew till after Midsommer terme following and he vnderstanding that I had knowledge of it and much grieued thereat eloyned himselfe from his wife and kept in the North-parts till neere Hollontide When he returned to London but not to his wife there he published a small booke in print flatly against the absurdities he now so strongly seemeth to maintaine and within twentie daies after at the most got him beyond the Seas leauing his wife in great distresse sorow and griefe Before his going he borrowed diuers summes of money with purpose I am perswaded neuer to repay them and amongst the rest abused my selfe for ten pound In May last past I trauelled to Saint Omers with a good friend of mine to seeke him out where finding him I laboured earnestly to bring him backe with me assured him of safetie c. He promised swore and protested his comming after me to my Lord of London within three weekes after my comming away though I thinke he neuer meant it Being in S. Omers I willed and charged him not to reueale my being there notwithstanding he made it knowne the same night to a Popish Priest as vpon examination he confessed to me the next morning which made vs presently to come away fearing our liues to be in danger amongst such a companie of helhounds as that towne is stuffed withall Sir I assure my selfe and all men that well knew him may be perswaded that his Poperie came from the discontentment by his vnhappie mariage wherin he dealt so perfidiously and so it hath pleased God to punish that sinne with many other sins How carefully I brought him vp and what meanes I vsed for his trayning vp in the truth of religion and in good institution of manners God knoweth and the world can witnes with me If I had had abilitie to haue answered his leaud booke I would gladly and speedily haue vndertaken it but I am glad that one so Honorable learned worthie and wise hath vouchsafed it For my hope is that the whole rabble of Papists shal vnderstād so much by you of the cause of his comming to their hotchpotch religion that they will be ashamed any longer to patronize him if they be not past all shame So hauing troubled your Worship with a long tedious relation which commeth from a grieued heart and the rather for that the vnhappie yong mans courses haue occasioned the death of his louing mother my late deare wife I craue pardon and leaue the man and the matter to your wisedome censure and pleasure and will euer rest Your Worships to be commanded ROBERT HIGGONS Chilton 28. May. 1609.