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A23631 The moderate Trinitarian containing a description of the Holy Trinity, both according to Scripture, and approved authors for learning, and adherence to the Trinitarian doctrine : being an argument shewing that moderation may and ought to be shewn by and to persons of different conceptions concerning some circumstances relating to the knowledg of the Holy Trinity : together with a short reply to Mr. Joseph Taylor's Brief inquiry whether those who own, and those who deny the divinity of Christ, may communicate together / by Daniel Allen. Allen, Daniel, fl. 1699. 1699 (1699) Wing A1023; ESTC R17226 58,738 45

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There is none of you do question whether this be he that moved upon the Waters in the Creation or whether he be holy or whether this be he that descended on our Lord Jesus Christ or whethat that he declares and makes known the very Mind and Will of God or no or whether his Operations may be properly called the Works of God or no or whether it be he that our Lord Jesus Christ said should come or no or whether his Assistance be helpful to mortify Sin and perform Duties towards God with acceptance nay not only in this but about all his Actions in the Saints which I shall not stand in particular to name both respecting the Manner Matter and Magnitude of them I do think you both agree So then still the d●fference lies here whether he himself be the Essence of the most Hi●h from Eternity a thing no where required to be known that I know of in the whole Book of God But admit it ●e so that the Holy Spirit is in himself the most High God then must it follow that he as the most High created the Heavens and the Earth and so still preserveth the Creation Then it follows that he that worships the most High God that created the Heavens and the Earth and still preserveth the same according to that Knowledg attained of him in his Word he I say then worships this Holy Spirit as much as he that particularly names him altho in respect of his O●fice he looks upon him differing from this most High God and verily if we will heed the Scriptures so we must all for what he is in respect of his Essence is not there expresly declared but as he is manifested to us under the Notion of the Holy Spirit he is declared to be different from the most High God and therefore so to be believed in John 16.13 For there it is said of him That when he comes he speaks not of himself but what he hears sure not from himself but from another that he speaks From whence it i● plain that in respect of his Office which is the thing signified by the denomination of Holy Spirit he is distinguished from the most High God and a Messenger sent from him and verily I think it highly necessary that every Christian should so conceive of him for it is the Spirit that maketh unutterable Groans and Intercession for us unto the most High God and not the most High that maketh Intercession to the most High He then that believes in and of the Holy Spirit according to those Articles wherein you are agreed I think his Faith in him is sufficient and according to the Scriptures AN APPENDIX CONTAINING A Short REPLY to a Book Intitul'd A Brief Inquiry whether they who assert and they who deny the Divinity of our Lord Jesus may have Communion together at the Lord's Table written by Mr. Joseph Taylor HAVING finished the precedent Sheets before I saw Mr. Taylor 's Book I could not therein take notice of it Mr. Taylor is one who for his Ingenuity I have long time highly esteemed tho we were never much personally acquainted The reading his Book puts me in mind of what I mentioned in my Epistle to the Reader concerning those little Buckets of Oil frequently starting forth from the Press upon us to increase and inflame our Contentions and I cannot forbear comparing this to one of those fiery Bombs charged with such Matter that in whatsoever Church it falls and fires that Church is in danger of being rent and torn in pieces I think every body ought to set to their hand according to their ability to prevent the fatal Consequences of so mischievous a thing At first sight I believed that a Reply thereto would be a very sutable Appendix to my Book but I shall be very brief and not follow him into all particulars partly because I would not swell this Piece too much and partly because I have heard that it is expected that a more full and distinct Reply will come from another hand First I observe that Mr. Taylor 's main Arguments are originally French and first appeared to the World in that Language however they are now adorned with an English Face and Tongue and tho they were foreign by birth yet they are now naturalized by the Act and Deed of an English Hand and Pen. Mr. Taylor confesses page 14. That he f●llows Monsieur Abbadie in his French Treatise of the Divinity of our Lord and I can assure you that the manner and matter of Mr. Taylor 's chief Arguments stand so fair and orderly and in some places almost verbatim in Monsieur Lamoth's Discourse of the Divinity with the Texts of Scripture as they stand in Mr. T 's Book in their order cited and impr●ved that at first sight I began to think I had got another Impression of Mr. Taylor 's Book in my hand However this Conclus●on I quickly came to that one must needs in great measure at least be the Father of the other and because Lamoth's bears date 1693 I concluded that his was senior However it be I wish Mr. Taylor e're he undertook this Task had well considered that we had already but too many English Incendiaries and therefore that there was the less need to call in those French Refugees to help pull down the Peace of our Churches about our Ears But to proceed the design of Mr. Taylor 's Book as he tells us is to shew and evince that those who assert and they who deny that Christ is God of the same Essence of his Father ought not to have Communion together at the Table of the Lord. This he endeavours to demonstrate from ten Reasons so called But first I must own my Ignorance of Mr. Taylor 's meaning by that Expression which he often uses Christ is God of the Essence of his Father by which I think he must mean one of these four things First That Christ's Divinity is an Essence flowing from or begotten of the most High the same in kind tho distinct in number Or secondly That his Divinity is a part of the same Essence that is in the Father Or thirdly That his Divinity is all and whole of the Divine Essence it self Or fourthly That he intends none of the Divine Essence or eternal Being neither in part nor whole but only the second Person If he means the first that the Divinity of Christ is of the same kind with the Essence of the Father but another distinct intelligent Being and that this is also God most High then this destroys the great Article of one Substance wherein so joint an Agreement is And God will then be no longer one but unavoidably two intire distinct intelligent Beings and so we shall have two Gods two most Highs two Almighties two Alknowing ones all which is nonsense beyond the fourth degree as well as untruth But sure he doth not intend so Therefore secondly suppose he intends the same Essence of