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A78585 The character of a puritan; and his gallimaufrey of the antichristian clergie; prepared with D. Bridges sawce for the present time to feed on. By the worthy gentleman, D. Martin Mar-Prelat, Doctor in all the faculties, Primate and Metropolitan. Mar-Prelat, Martin, Doctor in all the faculties. 1643 (1643) Wing C1987; Thomason E87_11; ESTC R212793 19,559 29

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I have said and namely the unlawfullnesse of Lord Bishops Minist Sir that point hath been handled by your betters and manifestly confuted by my Lords grace in his writings against Cartwright Puritan Indeed he that will be blind cannot see it but he that looks in both their Works with a single eye cannot but confesse Mr. Cartwright to have confuted him by unanswerable evidence or els why would he not have answered Mr. Cartwrights works now a dozen yeares extant and more Minist As you of the Fantasticall crew think but he hath done it and that so sufficiently already that there needs no more Answers and againe his Grace is now otherwise troubled with matters of State that he cannot intend it or if he could yet it is not for him so to abase himselfe in regard of his high Calling which he is now placed in Puritan As though the cause of God were to be neglected in respect of his high place if he were lawfully called thereunto as he doth very unlawfully usurpe the same contrary to the Law of God for is it possible he can be the true Minister of God and a Temporall Magistrate that is to serve God and Mammon to as the Apostle saith Let him that hath an office attend upon his office and not Offices Minist Why how dare you presume to say so Were not Lord Bishops established by Her Majesty and consent of the whole Parliament Puritan I grant they were but the Lord hath said contrary in the Commandement he gave to his Ministers Luke 22. saying The Kings of the Gentiles raigne over them and they that beare rule over them are called gracious Lords but ye shall not be so but let the greatest among you be as the least and the chiefest as him that serveth And 1 Pet. 5. Feed the Flocke of God which dependeth upon you caring for it not by constraint but willingly not for filthy lucre but of a ready mind Not as though ye were Lords over Gods heritage but that ye may be ensamples to the Flocke And in the first session of Parliament ☜ holden in the First yeare of her Majesties raigne there was never a Lord Bishop in the Land Minist If you will have no Lord Bishop how should the Church be governed then Puritan According as our Saviour Christ hath commanded and as the Holy Ghost hath set it down viz. by Pastors Teachers Elders and Deacons Rom 12. Ephes 4.1 Cor. 12. Minist You are very full of Scripture as though we have not the same Offices in effect though not in the same Titles as for example have not we Parsons for Teachers Vickers for Pastors Churchwardens for Elders and Sidemen for Deacons to distribute to the poore Puritan And what for Archbishops and Lord Bishops Iacke I will tell you for him Archbishops for Popes and Lord Bishops for Cardinals Ha ha Mr Vicker I see you are a good Churchman doe not you use the Pulpit sometimes Minist No indeed Sir but I read the Homilies somtimes and the Queens Injunctions and doe my duty as other Ministers doe Puritan I thought so by that fit comparison that you have made Iacke And have you no more but one Benefice neither and yet doe all that Minist Yes indeed I say Service at two more but I have little profit by them marie the best is they are somwhat neer for they are all three within foure miles together Puritan And how can you serve them all upon the Sabbath day Minist Some of them are but small and I can make quicke dispatch with them betimes and take my Mare and ride to the other and can make an end of all by ten of the clocke and spend an houre with good Fellows at home before Dinner to Puritan And Master Vicker do you think herein that you discharge your duty to God and those Congregations over whom you have taken this charge Minist Why Sir I discharge my duty better then those that take upon them foure or five Puritan Why is there any that takes upon them the charge of so many Minist Yea a hundred in England Puritan Well I will tell you the fearefull judgements of God hangs over our heads and cannot be long deferred but fall upon the whole Land where to such dumb Idolls as you are is committed the charge of soules and to your selves eternall destruction of body and soule wherfore Mr. Vicker as you tender your owne salvation leave this your unlawfull Calling of the Ministry and betake you to some occupation or Husbandry Minist I care not what any of you spightfull Puritans say so long as I can have the favour of my Lord Bishop Iacke I pray you Mr. Vicker let me spurre a question unto you if I may be so bold where do you serve Minist I serve in Middlesex Sir Iacke Who made you Minister Minist My good Lord of London Puritan Like enough he hath made a great many of blind guides in his time besides you for he made the Porter of his Gate Minister of Paddington being blind Iacke O monstrous is this true did he so indeed Puritan It is most true for the Bishop of Winchester hath recorded it in a Booke of his set forth in Print Iacke Why what will our Bishops grow to in time if they be suffered for me thinks this is a fearefull thing to make such Ministers as can neither see nor speake for it is like if he were the Porter no doubt of it he had not the gift of Teaching Puritan Very true but because he could do him no longer service he was so good to him to provide for the poore blind man that he might live Iacke Sure I think when they come once to be Lords they cleane forget God and all Godlinesse for I have heard that there was some good things in him before he was Bishop of London for he wrote a Book called the Harborow of faithfull Subjects against Bishops wherein he saith Come down ye Bishops with your thousands and betake you to your hundreds let your fare be Priestlike and not Princelike c. Puritan Indeed he wrote such a Book and the same words that you repeat I have read in the same but alas when he was at the best he was but a corrupt man and the best things in it savour but of earth for there is many things handled in it very immodestly and unchristianly but one thing especially he sets down there which himselfe practiseth clean contrary where he speaks of the ability that should be in every Minister of the Word that he should know his quarter strocks to be able to convince the adversary c. Minist Why will you have none Ministers but such as can preach I can tell you that the twentieth Minister in the Land cannot preach Puritan The more the worse for you and the rest how many soever there be stand without repentance in a most damnable state for you are most notorious murtherers of soules in taking upon you so high
be Lord Bishops once Minist Yes Sir I know there is such a Book named Martin Mar-prelate a most vile and slanderous Libell but I doe not thinke my Lord of Winchester doth approve any thing that is set down there in any of those Books for they have put forth three or foure Books under that Title Iacke Why Master Vicker how do they to get their Books Printed Minist Tush they doe well enough for that there is a Seditious Fellow one Walde-grave who commonly Prints all such Books I know him well enough he did keep a Shop at the Sgne of the Crane in Pauls Church-yard at which time he had his Presse and Letters taken away from him and destroyed for the same cause by my Lords Grace of Canterbury and now he works in corners up and down the Countrey like a Vagabond Puritan With a seared Conscience did the Bishops that violence to him in regard both of the Cause and also for the great charge he hath of Wife and six small Children and now to bereave his Poore Family of him whose labours was their only comfort and maintenance Iacke Master Vicker how long was it since Walde-graves goods were destroyed I have heard of him before now but I know him not Minist Tush you know him well enough I am sure it is since his goods were destroyed about Easter was a twelve moneth Iacke And hath he been all this time absent from his Family Minist I Sir and if he had bin there he would easily have been had for he hath been watcht well enough for that Puritan I will tell you Sir how they deale with him when they have any suspition that he is at home although he durst never come nome they stick not in the dead time of the night to break down the main walls of his house and enter in with Constables and Pursuivants and this a common thing with them Iacke I am perswaded the Bishops had been better to have given him freely 2. hundred pounds towards the setting up of a new Printing house for himselfe then to have destroyed his as they have done Minist I thinke so for it may be he would have followed his Calling some other way then to be imployed in those things Iacke Yonder comes a man plodding a pace after us whatsoever he be Minist It may be our company will increase and so we shall goe the more cheerfull for it begins to be late and it is dangerous going here abouts late I can tell you Puritan It may be he is one of your coate Master Vicker Minist I cannot tell but if he be he shall be welcome to me Iacke Surely he comes apace whatsoever he be Minist It may be he would be glad of company Iacke Well let us goe on and continue our talke Puritan Master Vicker I thinke you be weary of our communication if you be let us know Minist No by my Faith sir not I say what you will a Gods name Puritan Fie Master Vicker will you sweare I think you learned that of your Lord Bishop of London for he useth it often when he is at Boules Iacke What will Bishops sweare Puritan Sweare Sir I that they will and defend it to when they have done For in the first Booke of Martin there is mention made of the Bishop of Londons Swearing when he is at Bowles And the Bishop of Winchester in answering the same saith thus in pag. 62. of his Booke That our Saviour Christ usually sware by his Faith in his Sermon for he said Amen Amen which is as much to say saith he as by my Faith by my Faith Iacke Why is that Bishop of God that will Sweare thus Minist Fo I have heard my Lords Grace of Canterbury Sweare by his Faith an hundred times yea and by God too somtimes and what he doth I take it as a good president for such as I am to follow Puritan I le tell you Master Vicker I am of Doctor Bridges his mind of our Bishops for saith he page 339 340. That all our Lord Bishops in England are the Bishops of the Divel And I am sure of it by these two marks viz. By their tyrannicall dealing against Gods Children And by their wicked and unconscionable lives that they are not of God Iacke I pray you hath Doctor Bridges written any Booke that is published to this effect Puritan Yes indeed and the Bishop of Canterbury hath confirmed it by his authorising of the same and also by his continuall practise against Gods Children Iacke But I pray you Sir how wickedly hath he wrested the Scripture in saying our Saviour Christ continually sware in his Sermons when he said Amen Amen Puritan Why the Bishop of Winchester is most impudent in all his actions for he very blasphemously in his Sermon preached at Mary Overies at London said that a man might aswell find fault with the holy Scripture as with our corrupt Common Booke of Prayer Iacke Out upon him blasphemous wretch he is certainly the Bishop of the Divel as Doctor Bridges saith Puritan Will you heare some more of his Divinity Iacke O yes I pray you Sir And yet my heart trembleth to heare of such odious blasphemies as these Puritan He saith in the 49. page of his Book against Martin Mar-prelate That the Creed of the Apostles Athanasius and the Nicene c. containe in them many palpable lyes Now tell me your opinion of this is it sound and subsantiall Doctrine I pray you tell me Iacke Doctrine yea indeed this may truely be said to be the Doctrine of Devils Why whither will our Bishops runne in time trow you if the Magistrate suffer them Puritan I will tell you even to their Father the Devil For they have at no time taken in hand to write in defence of their Hierarchie but it hath made their eyes so to dazle that they run into most dangerous and damnable errours as in this Booke of the Bishops will be proved neare 500. errours yea in correcting and controuling the mighty word of God and also have interlaced their writings with such contrariety of matter as one part of their own Books may serve to confute the other with infinite absurdities yea and by your leave to even flat Treason Iacke Many good men did never judge the Bishop of Winchester to be but an Hypocrite Puritan He is a most bittrer man to all those that feare God and have to deale with him for he may well be compared to a Horse with a gald backe that hath bin so rub'd that he winces frets and chafes so that he is ready to throw himselfe to utter destruction with purpose to hurt him that rub'd him Even so this Bishop takes to himselfe so much liberty in abusing and profaning the holy word of God against those that write in the Lords Cause against their unlawfull Callings and that I feare me to the indangering both of body and soule Iacke I have heard that when he was at Lincolne he
a Calling and being so farre unfit for it so many as perish for want of teaching in your charge their bloud the Lord will require at your hands Minist The Bishop knew my ability before he mad me Minister Puritan Well he stands in the state of damnation as you do and thus much I say unto you and to all Idoll Ministers and to him and all usurping Archbishops and Lord Bishops leave your unlawfull Callings into which you have intruded your selves and with speed repent and humble your selves before the Majesty of God confessing your horrible and grievous sins with Peters teares in that you are the caufe yea and also the very murtherers of so many soules as perish in your charges knowing that the Lord will in that great and terrible day require their bloud at your hands Iacke O Lord my heart quaketh to heare of so great and grievous sins as are in our Bishops and in the whole Ministry but our Bishops are the cause of all Puritan I will tell you Sir I am perswaded in my very Conscience that the Lord hath given many of our Bishops over into a reprobate sence for they do willfully oppose themselves against the Lord and his known truth yea and persecute it and I suppse them to be in the state of the sinne against the Holy Ghost for they have manifested in their published writings yea and pressed forth by Authority such horrible blasphemous Hereticall yea damnable Doctrines which my very heart trembleth to repeat in sort as they have set them down which if those whom they call Puritans should set down or hold the like errours and dangerous points I warrant you they should soon be cut off from the face of the earth and right well they were worthy Iacke Now Sir I pray you let me heare some of the points they hold and that are so dangerous as you say that I may be able to justifie it to our dumb dogs teeth at Austins Gate in London when I come home Puritan First you shall understand that the Bishop of London hath published in Print and that in an Epistle or Preface before Barnardeus de loques Book of the Church published in English that the Puritans may aswell deny the Sonne of God to be consubstantiall with God the Father as they may deny the superiority of Archbishops and Lord Bishops flat contrary to the saying of our Saviour Christ Luke 22. Iacke O monstrous and blasphemous wretch that to maintaine his fleshly pleasure will make such an odious comparison Puritan Nay what say you to a Bishop that hath two Wives and both now living Do you not thinke it is a thing tollerable in a Christian Common-wealth where the Gospel is professed Iacke No indeed doe I not I hope our Magistrates will not suffer such a Bishop to live it were monstious among common Infidels much more intollerable that a Bishop in such a Land as ours is where the Gospell is truly taught But I pray you is there any such now living Puritan Yes indeed is there and the Bishop of Saint Davids in Wales is the Man he is now living and both his Wives and yet still remaines a Bishop Iacke Is it possible that a Bishop should commit such an horrible act as this how farre are our Bishops from obeying the Commandement of the Apostle Peter who saith Feed the Flocke and be ensamples to the Flock what ensample ●s this And doth not the same God which saith Thou shalt doe no murther which is death by our Laws doth he not say Thou shalt not commit adultery And yet a Bishop to have two Wives at once and live in a Church professing the sincerity of the Gospell What say you to this Master Vicker is not our Church well governed think you Minist If it be true it is I must needs confesse a horrible thing and worthy of death but I do not beleeve it Puritan It is very true for the cause was brought before the High Commissioners at Lambeth and how it is smothered up among the Bishops and the rest of the Commissioners I know not yet but I could tell you the whole conclusion if I were at London but halfe an houre Iacke Why the suffering of this and other like villanies to be committed in our Nation are causes to stirre up the Lord to wrath against the whole Land whereby he may speedily bring his judgements upon us yea even to our utter destruction Minist It is so if it be true but I will not beleeve it Puritan Well for the truth of the matter I referre you to the High Commissioners where it is recorded with his Wives names viz. Elizabeth Gigge and Alice Prime Minist Indeed I have heard of the like before that you Puritans have put forth a Booke in Print under the name of Martin Mar-prelate wherein many such things are mentioned Puritan There is nothing set down in it but there is good proofe of the same and the Bishop of Winchester who took upon him to confute it hath confirmed it for the most part and that he denies is most true Iacke What did he undertake to confute it Alas he is altogether unlearned for I have heard of him in Oxford and the Papists say they can make him beleeve the Moone is made of greene cheese mary to get him a name forsooth being a Correcter with a Printer in Fleet-street in London who Printed a Dictionary called Sir Thomas Eliots Dictionary Cooper transsated a piece of Robert Stephanus his Thesaurus and joyned it to the same with a few Phrases and so bereaved the Famous Knight of his labour and calls it by the name of Coopers Dictionary how say you Master Vicker was not this a knavish tricke tell me Minist I say you deale very unreverently with my Lord for I can say nothing to the matter else for I know it not to be true Puritan What say you to this then Master Vicker did you never heare of your Lord Bishop of London who made the Dyars in Thames-street who were robbed by Theeves that stole their Cloath and brought it within his Liberties which when the poore Dyars hearing where their Cloath was and coming to the Bishop to demand their own goods he said if they would hang the Theeves he would then say more which the Dyars did and at their deaths confessed that to be the Dyars Cloath which the Bishop had but the poore men were never the neare for their Cloath nor cannot get it or any part of it to this day and this is confessed to be true by the Bishop of Winchester in his answer to Martin Mar-prelat published in Print by Authority wherein he saith it is the Bishop of Londons own by the Laws of the Land because it was taken within his Liberties marke he speakes nothing of the Law of God according to Conscience in keeping of Thiefe-stollen goods from their right owners for Conscience is fled from them it seems so soon as they are gotten to