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A14866 A petition to the High Court of Parliament, in the behalfe of auncient and authentiqne [sic] authors, for the vniversall and perpetuall good of euery man and his posteritie: presented by Ioseph. Webbe, Dr. in Ph Webbe, Joseph. 1624 (1624) STC 25170; ESTC S119584 10,380 24

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