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â—â—s_o here_o â—â—g_v 16._o e_o that_o no_o more_o but_o the_o shed_n of_o his_o blood_n only_o and_o mere_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n then_o we_o absolute_o deny_v your_o assertion_n as_o before_o we_o have_v do_v the_o like_a as_o for_o your_o â—_o your_o 1_o pet._n 1_o rev._n 5._o â—_o allege_v scripture_n we_o answer_v they_o as_o we_o do_v general_o 8.9_o general_o treat_n pag._n 8.9_o before_o that_o they_o mean_v not_o the_o mere_a blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o only_a the_o body_n single_o and_o simple_o consider_v but_o that_o together_o with_o the_o proper_a suffering_n of_o his_o soul_n also_o they_o be_v the_o just_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n and_o redemption_n against_o which_o you_o have_v nothing_o any_o where_o and_o likewise_o our_o advise_v and_o resolut_a answer_n be_v to_o etc._n to_o pag._n 58_o 60_o 61_o 7â—_n etc._n etc._n all_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o scripture_n which_o most_o tedious_o and_o vain_o you_o heap_v up_o &_o scatter_v every_o wherein_o your_o former_a treatise_n to_o this_o effect_n as_o if_o they_o contain_v somewhat_o for_o your_o purpose_n when_o as_o indeed_o there_o be_v not_o one_o text_n any_o where_n that_o have_v any_o meaning_n of_o your_o strange_a conceit_n so_o that_o we_o shall_v have_v no_o need_n to_o trouble_v ourselves_o any_o more_o hereafter_o about_o any_o of_o they_o yet_o 24â—_n yet_o pag._n 24â—_n here_o you_o urge_v a_o reason_n against_o we_o if_o our_o soul_n be_v not_o redeem_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n our_o body_n have_v no_o benefit_n of_o redemption_n you_o mean_v from_o death_n but_o we_o 5.9_o we_o 1._o pet._n 1_o rev._n 5.9_o be_v redeem_v not_o we_o shall_v be_v ergo_fw-la it_o be_v our_o soul_n which_o be_v redeem_v our_o body_n be_v not_o redeem_v as_o yet_o in_o this_o life_n wherein_o we_o have_v to_o note_v 3._o thing_n 1._o your_o proposition_n be_v vain_a and_o 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your_o proposition_n mean_v some_o such_o consequence_n as_o this_o which_o be_v to_o i_o a_o vey_fw-mi strange_a reason_n yet_o that_o which_o you_o add_v 2d_o add_v pag._n 2d_o afterward_o be_v more_o strange_a if_o our_o soul_n be_v not_o redeem_v whole_o by_o the_o mere_a blood_n of_o christ_n for_o thus_o still_o i_o say_v you_o must_v make_v your_o word_n or_o else_o you_o ask_v the_o very_a quaestion_n than_o our_o body_n have_v utter_o no_o good_a even_o no_o good_a at_o all_o by_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n in_o which_o sequel_n very_o i_o can_v see_v neither_o head_n nor_o tail_n choose_v you_o now_o whether_o you_o will_v that_o you_o speak_v this_o sophistical_o or_o absurd_o for_o i_o can_v discern_v it_o i_o leave_v it_o therefore_o to_o yourself_o to_o determine_v but_o perhaps_o you_o will_v yet_o again_o go_v back_o to_o that_o you_o excuse_v yourself_o withal_o before_o you_o will_v mean_v that_o our_o body_n in_o this_o life_n have_v no_o benefit_n of_o redemption_n from_o death_n even_o no_o more_o than_o the_o body_n of_o infidel_n and_o this_o plain_o you_o avouch_v for_o truth_n be_v this_o true_a be_v not_o our_o body_n now_o already_o free_v from_o the_o curse_n &_o the_o sting_n of_o death_n from_o all_o the_o hurt_n &_o harm_n that_o proper_o and_o natural_o be_v in_o death_n be_v it_o not_o make_v unto_o we_o a_o quiet_a sleep_n and_o a_o peaceable_a rest_n a_o entrance_n for_o our_o soul_n into_o heaven_n a_o put_v off_o of_o sin_n to_o our_o body_n in_o such_o wise_a that_o christ_n take_v from_o it_o the_o a_o name_n of_o death_n and_o call_v it_o but_o b_o a_o passage_n 8.51_o â—oh_o 8.51_o or_o have_v the_o jnfidel_n also_o thus_o much_o benefit_n in_o death_n 2d_o â—oh_o 5_o 2d_o as_o we_o have_v in_o it_o by_o our_o redemption_n in_o christ_n i_o know_v not_o therefore_o how_o to_o term_v this_o your_o assertion_n i_o forbear_v to_o name_v it_o as_o it_o deserve_v it_o be_v more_o than_o strange_a that_o infidel_n body_n shall_v have_v as_o much_o benefit_n of_o nedemption_n from_o death_n as_o our_o body_n have_v by_o christ_n die_v i_o grant_v or_o cease_v to_o breath_n we_o must_v and_o do_v still_o even_o as_o they_o do_v and_o this_o death_n by_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o god_n curse_n but_o to_o the_o faithful_a there_o be_v great_a benefit_n join_v even_o in_o death_n by_o the_o gracious_a deal_n of_o god_n peculiar_o towards_o his_o child_n which_o also_o their_o body_n be_v partaker_n of_o through_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n the_o natural_a sting_n be_v take_v out_o of_o it_o for_o the_o godly_a yet_o it_o remain_v to_o the_o infidel_n and_o hurt_v they_o by_o retain_v even_o their_o body_n though_o dead_a in_o &_o under_o god_n dreadful_a curse_n wherefore_o it_o make_v many_o to_o think_v that_o indeed_o you_o utter_v this_o matter_n somewhat_o otherwise_o in_o your_o sermon_n than_o here_o you_o do_v now_o publish_v it_o and_o it_o persuade_v i_o still_o that_o c_o i_o mistake_v you_o not_o 11._o â—â—eat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 11._o see_v this_o your_o turn_n &_o set_v of_o it_o be_v so_o unhansom_a for_o every_o one_o may_v see_v by_o this_o your_o handle_n of_o it_o that_o then_o you_o say_v more_o than_o here_o you_o express_v and_o here_o you_o will_v fain_o fashion_v it_o to_o somewhat_o but_o you_o can_v yea_o your_o own_o word_n bewray_v some_o alteration_n from_o that_o which_o so_o confident_o you_o preach_v where_o you_o say_v whatsoever_o the_o word_n be_v that_o you_o may_v use_v which_o you_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v these_o that_o i_o bring_v 240._o â—ag_n 240._o last_o do_v you_o grant_v that_o you_o use_v this_o reason_n in_o handle_v the_o power_n of_o christ_n death_n that_o be_v when_o you_o preach_v it_o for_o now_o in_o this_o treatise_n you_o have_v clean_o leave_v it_o out_o for_o aught_o that_o e_z i_o can_v see_v which_o bewray_v that_o it_o be_v such_o 88.113_o 〈◊〉_d 88.113_o as_o yourself_o see_v be_v not_o to_o be_v maintain_v howsoever_o here_o you_o strive_v to_o set_v some_o colour_n upon_o it_o though_o yet_o still_o in_o vain_a before_o we_o depart_v from_o this_o point_n that_o not_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n nor_o his_o flesh_n mere_o and_o only_o without_o respect_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o whole_a soul_n be_v the_o full_a price_n of_o redemption_n here_o be_v fit_a place_n to_o show_v how_o sundry_a of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v agree_v with_o we_o sufficient_o in_o this_o matter_n although_o afterward_o in_o your_o book_n you_o seem_v to_o bring_v they_o against_o us._n but_o indeed_o so_o they_o seem_v only_o for_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v with_o we_o as_o by_o these_o follow_v we_o may_v see_v first_o 5._o first_o ireâ—_n 5._o irenaeus_n the_o lord_n buy_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o give_v his_o soul_n for_o our_o soul_n &_o his_o flesh_n for_o our_o flesh_n tâ—â—_n flesh_n cyr._n the_o 〈◊〉_d fid_fw-we ad_fw-la tâ—â—_n cyrill_n he_o bestow_v his_o flesh_n as_o a_o ransom_n for_o our_o flesh_n and_o make_v his_o soul_n likewise_o a_o price_n of_o redemption_n for_o our_o soul_n although_o he_o live_v again_o be_v by_o nature_n life_n itself_o clâ—â—_n itself_o naz._n in_o trâ—â—_n 49._o add_v clâ—â—_n nazianzen_n make_v every_o part_n of_o man_n to_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o like_a in_o christ_n our_o condemn_a flesh_n by_o his_o flesh_n our_o soul_n by_o his_o soul_n our_o understanding_n by_o his_o understanding_n etc._n understanding_n ambr._n 〈◊〉_d luc._n 22._o 〈◊〉_d trist_n doloâ—â—_n etc._n etc._n ambrose_n say_v maerorem_fw-la animae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la suae_fw-la animae_fw-la maerore_fw-la abolevit_fw-la he_o abolish_v the_o sorrow_n of_o our_o soul_n by_o the_o sorrow_n of_o
experience_n of_o they_o this_o same_o also_o sundry_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v with_o we_o most_o full_o and_o even_o those_o which_o yourself_o bring_v for_o a_o yourself_o 25._o pag._n 25._o cyrills_n word_n before_o touch_v be_v most_o large_a 10.3_o cyrill_n theâ—â—ur_fw-fr 10.3_o omnia_fw-la christus_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la christ_n thorough_o suffer_v all_o such_o passion_n which_o man_n do_v suffer_v that_o he_o may_v deliver_v we_o from_o all_o â—ature_n humane_a â—ature_n all_o the_o passion_n of_o †_o flesh_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n yet_o without_o sin_n and_o so_o that_o unless_o he_o have_v dye_v we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v from_o death_n unless_o he_o have_v fear_v and_o sorrow_v we_o have_v not_o be_v quit_v from_o fear_n and_o sorrow_n here_o he_o say_v all_o our_o passion_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n humane_a nature_n even_o so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v cure_v and_o so_o far_o as_o may_v be_v without_o sin_n in_o he_o then_o i_o hope_v by_o cyrills_n judgement_n the_o sense_n of_o the_o true_a curse_n and_o proper_a wrath_n of_o god_n for_o sin_n be_v in_o christ_n soul_n so_o fair_a as_o it_o may_v be_v painful_a and_o not_o sinful_a see_v man_n be_v subject_a to_o this_o suffering_n as_o the_o most_o sharp_a among_o other_o last_o by_o cyrill_n here_o we_o see_v that_o unless_o christ_n have_v feel_v the_o same_o suffering_n which_o we_o feel_v and_o be_v cure_v of_o we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v of_o they_o this_o also_o i_o be_o sure_a fit_v not_o your_o opinion_n that_o one_o drop_n of_o christ_n blood_n be_v sufficient_a for_o our_o whole_a redemption_n which_o be_v one_o of_o your_o principle_n in_o your_o preach_n but_o in_o your_o book_n you_o skip_v it_o clean_o i_o know_v not_o how_o 26._o â—ag_n 25._o 26._o next_o we_o may_v see_v that_o c_o your_o place_n of_o d_o ambrosâ—_n be_v also_o full_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n â—â—_o luc._n the_o â—â—tic_a dol_n â—â—_o a_o little_a after_o his_o e_z former_a word_n he_o say_v the_o joy_n of_o the_o eternal_a godhead_n be_v part_v away_o from_o he_o christ_n be_v affect_v with_o the_o redioâ—snes_n of_o my_o infirmity_n 48_o â—â—fore_o pa._n 48_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o my_o sorrow_n that_o he_o may_v give_v i_o his_o joy_n and_o he_o abase_v himself_o to_o the_o sorrow_n of_o death_n in_o our_o manner_n that_o by_o the_o same_o mean_n in_o he_o he_o may_v bring_v we_o to_o life_n he_o ought_v therefore_o to_o take_v sorrow_n that_o he_o may_v overcome_v sorrow_n and_o not_o exempt_v himself_o from_o it_o &_o that_o we_o may_v learn_v in_o christ_n to_o overcome_v the_o sorrow_n of_o death_n approach_v wherefore_o christ_n exempt_v himself_o from_o nothing_o in_o his_o passion_n that_o we_o have_v experience_n of_o as_o touch_v pain_n and_o sorrow_n and_o by_o the_o same_o suffering_n in_o himself_o for_o we_o he_o heal_v we_o whereunto_o we_o be_v subject_a by_o reason_n of_o sin_n so_o that_o thus_o in_o his_o agony_n he_o wrought_v with_o a_o deep_a effect_n that_o because_o in_o his_o flesh_n he_o kill_v our_o sin_n he_o may_v also_o with_o the_o sorrow_n of_o his_o soul_n extinguish_v the_o sorrow_n of_o our_o soul_n to_o this_o very_a purpose_n also_o jerom._n also_o pag._n 47_o 4â—_n naâ—â—anz_n fulgent_n barnard_n tertull._n jerom._n many_o other_o before_o rehearse_v do_v affirm_v most_o full_o neither_o be_v this_o take_n of_o their_o sentence_n any_o whit_n to_o abuse_v the_o father_n which_o you_o 86._o you_o pag._n 86._o be_v afraid_a of_o you_o great_o abuse_v they_o which_o take_v they_o otherwise_o namely_o as_o if_o they_o mean_v that_o by_o the_o flesh_n and_o bloodshed_n of_o christ_n mere_o &_o alone_o without_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o mind_n proper_a suffering_n our_o whole_a ransom_n be_v pay_v as_o for_o our_o compare_v the_o pain_n of_o christ_n suffering_n with_o the_o pain_n even_o of_o the_o reprobat_n in_o this_o life_n i_o see_v not_o that_o you_o nor_o any_o man_n live_v can_v find_v fault_n therewith_o only_o set_v aside_o their_o sinful_a suffering_n which_o always_o i_o testify_v that_o christ_n be_v most_o free_a from_o yea_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o may_v compare_v christ_n suffering_n in_o his_o agony_n touch_v vehemency_n of_o pain_n even_o with_o those_o of_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n damn_v what_o the_o oâ—_n be_v between_o christ_n suffer_v &_o 〈◊〉_d damn_v only_o i_o conceive_v between_o christ_n and_o they_o this_o odds_o 1_o they_o suffer_v sinful_o 2_o perpetual_o 3_o local_o in_o hell_n all_o which_o be_v except_v otherwise_o christ_n suffer_v altogether_o as_o bitter_o &_o as_o sharp_o yea_o i_o may_v say_v in_o nature_n the_o very_a same_o as_o the_o damn_a do_v which_o therefore_o may_v well_o be_v call_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n although_o yet_o hell_n indeed_o do_v differ_v in_o some_o great_a and_o weighty_a circumstance_n as_o be_v aforesaid_a if_o you_o say_v the_o extreme_a pain_n 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