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A94178 A loyall subjects beliefe, expressed in a letter to Master Stephen Marshall, Minister of Finchingfield in Essex, from Edward Symmons a neighbour minister, occasioned by a conference betwixt them. With the answer to his objections for resisting the Kings personall will by force of armes. And, the allegation of some reasons why the authors conscience cannot concurre in this way of resistance with some of his brethren. Symmons, Edward. 1643 (1643) Wing S6345; Thomason E103_6; ESTC R212787 94,533 112

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Gods truth and me in mine owne Church I thinke they will have amongst them that are wise and godly but little credit by him Concerning which Lecturer * One Lemuell Tuke some of you my Christian friends did at first conceive and say of him that had he beene good the barren Country from whence he came would not have parted with him in briefe by education he is a Weaver of no University yet one that hath a charge of soules in Notttinghamshire from which ever since the Parliament began he hath beene a constant Non-resident for his Parish then framed a Bill against him to the House of Commons articling him to be negligent and insufficient in his place to be guilty of Barrettry and Battery to be famed of Drunkennesse Whoredome and divers other such as they are now accounted in some small offences upon which he fled the Country into our parts and being more suteable to the temper of my people then I am they made choice of him among whom he blasphemeth Gods holy Word preacheth Sedition and Rebellion telleth in the Pulpit many foolish lyes and ridiculous tales bawleth against the Reverend and Learned Ministers of the Country and raileth upon the Worshipfull Gentry and so many wayes hee poysoneth the soules of them that are committed to my Cure which is my greatest griefe of all But the Lord I hope will not lay to the charge of his poore persecuted Minister the dammage that is thus done unto the spirits of his people for God himselfe knoweth that I offered the Chaire-man of the Committee my drunken Adversaries fast friend to keepe a Lecture my selfe on the weeke day if any did desire it rather then have my flocke defiled with such seditious and wicked Doctrines as I knew that Lecturer would teach among them My reverend Brethren and friends some of you thought me much abused by the intrusion of him I doubt not but you thinke me in your hearts more wronged now by being after all those former troubles turned out of my Living my Wife Children and aged Parent exposed to the wide world and my selfe forced to seeke safety in strange places by flying but blessed be God yet my flight was not in the Winter Sed quid mali feci What Law of God or man is it that I have broken which doth expose me to these miseries O that some would discover unto me my transgressions for as yet I am to my knowledge a Delinquent upon no other ground then the bare accusation and word of my enemy when ten of my neighbours sufficiently furnished with evill affections were sent for up against me they were not able to speake me culpable in any thing save in the matter of my God and when I urged them before the Committee and spectators to say whether they ever heard me speake word of evill against the Parliament in publicke or private they could not say it nor deny but I constantly prayed for it onely my chiefe adversary said in behalfe of himselfe and the rest We thinke that in his preaching he meant the Parliament and because my enemies did thinke so some of the Members as it should seeme did thinke so too whose thoughts in such a case 't is not comely for me to gain-say I dealt ingenuously before the Committee relating the truth of what I had preached although I might easily suspect that some passages in regard of the malignity of the times might prove to my disadvantage with which my candor and plainnesse divers honourable Members of the Committee were so well pleased that they concluded to have me reported to the House as a man deserving their favour but as appeares unknowing I beleeve to them in particular some others did intend and have now done otherwise for five moneths after as if I had never answered at all this * The Copy of which Sequestration is at the end of this Booke Sequestration against me comes forth wherein are some expressions alleadged that I should use in those my Sermons as the cause of this my punishment which are now shewne up and downe to justifie the pretended equity of the same but they are so false and so foolish that I need not confute them to you that know me or indeed were they all true of me I beleeve you would say if you durst speake that my penalty exceeds my sinne In the seven first Sections of this following Discourse which is the pith of some 8 Sermons preached in the moneths of June and July last when my Troubles first begun you shall see the truth of God which I suffer for and that you may not tax mee of folly for preaching this truth at this time when 't is so much discountenanced I will breifely tell you the occasion that moved mee to 't I conceived that the House of Commons when they set forth the Protestation did foresee that the Doctrine established in this Church of England The Kings Person Honour and estate the Power and Priviledge of Parliament were or would be in some speciall danger or dammage now more then formerly they had beene and therefore did thereby provide that we should ingage our selves to defend them and for my part I was reall in what I did having taken the same I truly endeavoured in my calling to keepe it and therefore when I saw people inclining to rebellion and strife I declared that to be rather the doctrine of Antichrist and Popery then of the Church of England which taught peace and commanded patience this presently purchased me the suspicion and soone after the name of a Malignant Secondly hearing men unreverently speak of the Kings Majesties person I opposed that blasphemy by Gods Word and endeavoured to maintaine his Honour according to my duty and Protestation this produced mee the title of a Royallist yea of a ranke Cavaleer and I should have a Buffe Coat and a Scarlet paire of Hose bought mee presently to make mee compleat And then Secondly observing people on their owne heads rending Common prayer bookes and altering things established by Law I inveighed against those doings as injurious to the power and priviledge of Parliament which by my protestation also I was bound to maintaine and this they said discovered mee to be a plaine Papist one that loved the Masse booke better then I did God so there I had preached away my good name but my comfort was I had two witnesses God and my owne Conscience which would justify me in my way sed Hinc dolor hinc Lachrimae But further for I will confesse all against my selfe I have beene charged to have beene a great Hinderer of the Parliament proceedings in the Association and gathering money in that well affected County of Essex if I have 't is more by my Sufferings then any other way and if God please to make me an Instrument to prevent sin in others though by mine owne sorrowes I will rejoyce in my tribulations I confesse my Scandalous Adversaries have added some