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A07807	A full satisfaction concerning a double Romish iniquitie; hainous rebellion, and more then heathenish æquiuocation Containing three parts: the two former belong to the reply vpon the Moderate Answerer; the first for confirmation of the discouerie in these two points, treason and æquiuocation: the second is a iustification of Protestants, touching the same points. The third part is a large discourse confuting the reasons and grounds of other priests, both in the case of rebellion, and æquiuocation. Published by authoritie.	Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659.	1606 (1606)	STC 18185; ESTC S112912	216,074	250

VIII Instance in Burgundie The moderate Answerer IN Burgundie a like assembly and conuenti●le was kept at Cabillion therein was decreed that three wor●… to be taken out of the world first the Church of Rome secondly ●…le ●…es of auncient houses and thirdly all ciuill policie and gouernment The Reply Were euer any Protestants so fantasticall who were the authors of that decree nay who was your author witnessing that there was any such decree You expresse neither We may not maruell if through the wearinesse of your so long trauell into many countries you fell at length a sleepe and dreamed this idle dreame of three wormes so I had rather thinke then that you dreamed it waking for then should you find a fourth worme worse then all those three euen the worme of conscience which gnaweth euery lying soule The like may I answer for your imagined rebellions In Denmark but that you haue for your witnesse your owne Peter Frarer you might say Frater for who so shall reade his idle pamphlet shall easily perceiue that his inke wherewith he writ was of that co●…ound which the Iewes offered our Sauiour vineger and gall There is an established Church of Protestants in Sueueland doe you see no beakons of ●i●e there which might portend rebellions CHAP. IX Sweueland obiected by The moderate Answerer FOr Sueueland the Protestants themselues gi●e also testimonie that the Catholike King thereof was enforced by his rebellious Gospellers to make himselfe a subiect vnto their designements and condescend that no Catholike should beare office in that Kingdome as is witnessed by Cytraeus Chron. Anno 1593. 1594. The Reply The Storie is long but the summe is short that the whole State of Sueueland required that according to the former Parliament of their Kingdome the King should sweare to defend them in their former liberties and especially the fruition of the Religion then professed Doth your Protestant witnesse call them Rebellious Gospellers It was the demaund of an whole State for defence of their countrie priuiledge can any Papist call this rebellious You will be as loth to confesse this as you are prone to forge the other Let vs trauell homeward againe and end there where you began CHAP. X. In the Imperiall State of Germanie particularly obiecting Luther Muntzer The moderate Answerer his first instance against Luther MArtin Luther the prime Protestant of that time said he cared not for Kings so careles he is in this case that he telleth that it is the nature of the Gospel to raise wars seditions that among Christians there is no Magistrate no Superior that it is a thing to be obtained by prayers that countrimen obey not their Princes No lawe or syllable of lawe can be imposed vpon Christians neither by men or Angels there is no hope of remedie except all humane lawes be taken away The Reply Here is your common Linsi-woolsie mixture of truth and falshood but as you would haue vs to confesse a truth so be you willing to acknowledge your Error The truth Luther professed that he did not care for Kings true but in that comparatiue sence which he had learned of our Lord Christ You shall be called before Kings and Rulers for my name sake but feare not man who can kill the bodie but feare God who is able after the bodie is dead to take the soule and cast it into hell fire I say feare him Secondly Luther telleth that it is the nature of the Gospell to raise warres and seditions And doth not the Gospell it selfe tell vs the same likewise Behold I came not to send peace into the world for I will set the father against the sonne and the daughter against the mother c. You cannot be ignorant of the difference of a cause and an occasion a thing considered properly in his owne nature and vnproperly by externall accident Do I shutting the doore breake it because the theefe would not haue broken it except it had bene shut saith Saint Augustine So Luther Because the Gospell is preached the professors thereof are persecuted with the sword is therefore the innocent professor cause of the persecution no but onely an occasion Christ who is in his owne nature * Petra salutis a rocke of saluation to the elect to the reprobate is called a Stone of offence because the godly are by faith edified to life and the wicked by the malice of their hart do spurne against Christ stumble and perish through vnbeleefe The Gospell likewise hath a double sauor vitall and mortall being The sauor of life vnto life to the sanctified by Gods spirit and the sauor of death vnto death to the irrepentant and vnregenerate So then the Gospell is no otherwise seditious then the sweet flower is venimous frō this the Spider sucketh sweetnesse but through the fierie malignitie changeth it to peyson so that obstinate hearing of grace peace and saluation by his naturall malice resisteth grace with contempt peace with warre and eternall saluation by working bodily destruction The falshood to affirme that Luther did abandon all Magistracie and abhorre all humane lawes is first false for then I should maruell in what commonwealth the doctrine of Luther could●… long breath Secondly false for Luther defendeth Magistracie in his publike bookes Thirdly thrice false for Luther also condemneth the Romish for their contempt of Magistrates His doctrine Though some thinke gouernement of man ouer man to be a tyrannous vsurpation because all men are naturally of like condition yet we that haue the word of God must oppose to this delusion the commandement and ordinance of God who hath put a sword into the hand of the Magistrate whome therefore the Apostle calleth Gods Minister His taxation of the Romish I grieue and blush and grone roses how scornefully our Emperors and Princes of Germanie are abused whom the Pope leadeth and handleth like brute beasts both for spotle and slaughter at his pleasure This Poperie is liuely described by Saint Peter saying that in the latter times Some should despise Rulers by Rulers signifying secular Princes Now the Popish Clergie by their owne authoritie haue exempted themselues from performance of tributes to Princes And the Pope is so farre from acknowledging the Soueraigntie of Princes ouer him that he will scarce admit them sauing your presence to kisse his sh●oe How like you this doctrine of Luther If well then must you free him from rebellious conceit for he defendeth subiection to Princes if ill then you condemne your self for he renounceth Popish Hierarchie as a rebellious tyrannie The moderate Answerer His second instance against Luther He censured King Henry the eight of England the Princes of the Imperiall Orders the Princes of Germanie to be vnworthie either of obedience from Subiects or life in themselues and giuing the same doome of his naturall Soueraigne George of Saxonie nameth him the Calamitie of his countrie and Tyrant so he

scorned the Emperor and wrote directly against his Edicts He taught that Protestants hands must be imbrued with bloud teaching that he had warrant from God to battell against Princes The Reply His literall censure of words will be partly confessed but the other of swords which draweth bloud neuer can any proue But to him that looketh through red spectacles whatsoeuer he be holdeth seemeth red No maruell therefore though your fantasie preoccupated with the reflection of your last bloudie stratageme cannot see your aduersarie but with suspitiō of bloud It may be you wil alledge Wicelius as though your owne Romish might suffice in this case or professed malice could euer speake a truth A man whome Luther thought so vnworthie the naming that He doth maruell that any will answer the booke of Wicell which doth sufficiently answer it selfe The former censure of sharpe speech let vs see how Luther can excuse He writing to the Duke of Saxonie doth thus reconcile himselfe As God doth seuerely chasten those whom he purposeth afterward louingly and fatherly to embrace killing that he may reuiue I likewise most excelent and gracious Soueraigne had no other intent in my bitter speech wherein I might happily offend your Highnesse or any other Wherfore my humble prayer to God hath bene that I might recouer your Highnesse fauor especially seeing that a tart reprehension for good is a 〈…〉 simple and syncere heart more precious then all ●…ses of painted flatterie He writeth almost the like Apologie vnto King Henry the eight wholly to the same end granting that He had offended his Maiestie with his writings yet not with intent to offend him but by instigation of such as did not so greatly fauour his dignitie and did not therefore doubt but his Princely clemencie knowing himselfe mortall would not harbor any immortall displeasure against him He craued pardon onely for words O that your case would suffer such an Apologie Concerning his allegeance to the Emperor the Emperor himselfe did acquithim who neuer charged him with seditious doctrine against his State but onely religious profession against the sacrilegious superstitions of that time Which his doctrine he iustified in the presence of the Emperor at Auspurge whereof Luther writeth thus Our cause was heard at Auspurge before the Emperor and before the whole world manifested to be improuable I haue published our Apologie answering therein to all Popish lying slaunders which are infinite but I may not enuie in those men that facultie because they haue no other excellent vertue wherly to ennoble themselues A certaine argument of your ruinous house whose best supporter is the priuiledge of lying by vertue whereof to your other more then a good many euill slaunders you adde these two next following The third instance in Luther by The moderate Answerer By Luthers doctrine that Christians must not fight against the Turke in short time Belgrade and Rhodes were taken Hungary was entred King Lodowike slaine Buda conquered c. Witnesses Munster in Chron. Pantaleon Chron. 121. The Reply I haue perused the follies you quote and perceiue that your wisedome in deluding your Reader is excellent for Munster and Pantaleon both writing of Belgrade Hungarie Rhodes c. neuer attribute the least scruple or suspition of occasion thereof vnto Luther Can you be contented to vnderstand the true causes of those mischiefes Hearken then vnto your owne Historian Because it was publikely knowne that Leo the Pope had not employed the great summes of money which he raised from Pardons against the Turk there followed the ruins of Hungary Bohemia was assaulted Rhodes surprised and a thousand other euils fell vpon Christendome This is certaine from the truth of all Storie concerning the Turkes that Popes and Popish Clergy by their insatiable riot and couetousnes haue bene the bane to all Christendome alwaies since their temporall Hierarchy by kindling firebrands of seditions among Christians haue giuen the greatest aduantage to the Turke CHAP. XI The last instance against Munster and other Anapabtists The moderate Answerer MVnster was of the same opinion and practise and called Rebellion for his Religion the warre of God affirming that he had receiued some speciall commandement from God to war against Kings and had promise of victorie from heauen and hereupon such Rebellions ensued that of his owne adherents and Traitors were slaine within the space of three moneths one hundred and thirtie thousand The Reply You being in your selfe Magnus opinator told vs of the opinion of Luther and now descended to Munster say Munster was of the same opinion viz. with Luther and called c. But your Peter Frarer whom you brought to accuse Caluin is herein readie to iustifie Luther saying that Luther wrote against these rebellious ones prouing that it belonged to all Christians to persecute them to death Caluin also wrote a booke intituled * Aduersus Libertinos against fantasticall and Anabaptisticall Libertines and Beza as we haue heard saith That it is impious wickednesse for any to obiect vnto Protestants the opinion of those rebellious Anabaptists and spirits of giddinesse But what thinke you were Anabaptists Protestants or were Protestants whom you haue named of this opinion of Anabaptists Thus would you perswade your English Reader but your Cardinal Reader at Rome doth confute you For this opiniō of the hereticall Anabaptists saith he not only we Catholikes but Melancthon also Caluine and Luther do abhorre Recount now your words Munster was of opinion that it was the commandement of God he shold war True and that he sa●… he had a special reuelation from heauen promising him victory True And that thereupon ensued rebellions to the death of many thousands All these yet true but now there is wanting this one word same Munster say you was of the same meaning Luthers opinion It is written One dead ●…e in the ointment of the Apothecarie doth poison the whole box And so in one little word same your great lie hath disabled your whole accusation For as well may you call the Bandites namely those grand theeues and out-lawes in Italy of the same incorporation with the citizens of Rome as name Anabaptists who depend vpon extraordinary and fantasticall reuelations of the same opinion with Protestants who are wholy directed by the expresse written law and Gospell of Christ I perceiue you are now growne weary with long trauell I could haue wished you would haue visited Polonia and after that Bohemia in some particular obseruations for in both those kingdomes there hath bin long time manifold vexations executed vpon Protestants and yet neuer any of them or others can be named who deposed Princes inuaded Crownes or by any treason did practise the deaths of their Soueraignes Now therefore let your moderation be admonished to returne home into England and seeing you cannot find Protestants for your fellowship in your kind of rebellion now let Protestants I pray you haue

your fellowship in faithful subiection But lingua quo vadis CHAP. XII The second kind of Recriminations against protestants is in the second wickednes of Aequiuocation YOu returne the guilt of this cursed doctrine vpon Protestants after two fashions Reasoning Railing 1. Reasoning if it may be called Reason which is mixed with most slanderous vntruths but you wold be heard speake with good will The moderate Answerer But to speake vnto this Obiector concerning Protestants proceedings in aquiuocating Luther vsed it at his pleasure now appealing to the Pope and after renouncing his authoritie Cranmer did often recant his errors by othes and again oftē defend them counter fetted the hands of fiftie Conuocation men Fox himselfe being iudge to giue alying credit to his false cause but excused his false oaths by equiuocation Protestants of England in the dayes of K. Henrie the eight King Edward the sixt and Queene Elizabeth did equiuocate Such was the proceeding of P. Martyr and Bucer two great Professors of Diuinitie in Oxford and Cambridge Such was the Protestant adherents the Dukes of Northumberland and Suffalke and now the ordinary vse of Puritanes The Reply Luther Cranmer and others as they were perswaded that the Bishop of Rome was a faithfull Bishop did sweare obedience vnto him but afterwards being better illuminated did renounce him as Antichristian But if all recantation shall be thus censured then might you teach S. Augustine to retract his retractations But we wil not denie their infirmities for it hath pleased God to note the like in his chosen Saints in holy writ to the amplifying of the glory of his grace in their repentance and his pardon Yet was not there in these acts any equiuocation no more then in the acts of Peter who at the cock-crow went out of the high Priests hall and wept bitterly Thus Cranmerawaked by the call of the spirit of God executed vengeance vpon that hand which subscribed vnto your idolatrous seruice Burned it in the fire Then whatsoeuer his dissimulatiō was he thought it worthy of repentance not as you do think your equiuocation worthy of defence whereas in the truth of Christianitie there is the same punishment due to your equiuocating tongues which he executed vpon his dissembling hand O but Fox is witnesse that he defended himselfe by saying he did equiuocate I am sure you would not haue bene indebted vnto vs for the words if they had bene extant I found the place of M. Fox but no mention of equiuocation A monster not hatched in those times That which was obiected by Doctor Weston is there satisfied by M. Cranmer but you are more rigorous then auncient Aduersaries Yet further would I demand why Protestants turning from Papacie in the daies of King Edward must be condemned for such as haue equiuocated and Papists reuolting from Protestants in the raigne of Queene Mary must be thought to haue bene innocents The moderate Answerer Aequiuocating was practised by Caluine as the Lord of Canterbury and Beza and others record The Reply I reported this your accusation to my Lord of Canterbury and his Grace answered that you had wronged his testimony for I am sure said his Grace that this mystery in those times was not set abroach We also examined the book you alledge and find not one syllable for your purpose But what can we expect from you Patrons of lying equiuocation but in your accusations against Protestants equiuocating lies The most moderate Answerer in his railing Luther was so vile in this kind of equiuocating that neuer pillory mate behaued himselfe so as he did Cogging lying equiuocating dissembling was practised by Caluine who was banished for a dissembling seducer Cranmer periured himselfe and excused it by equiuocation The Reply In these your lying slanders you giue vs good hope that you will leaue your equiuocating lies because as though you detested the impietie thereof you vilifie it with these termes vile equiuocating adiudging it worthy the pillory matching it with cogging lying seducing periury This is yet very wel But we find that true which the Orator saith Natura suilena Euery man naturally is a band vnto himselfe Now you examining your Glycerie equiuocation in your aduersaries Luther Cranmer Caluine O then it is vile cogging lying seducing c. But beholding her in your owne embracements so In equiuocating there is nolie nor sinne Adulterous Iudah iudging of Thamar whom he had vnknowingly knowne hearing that she was brought in for an adulteresse gaue presently sentence Let her be burned but when by certaine euidences and pledges she made it knowne vnto him that if she were the woman he was the mā then he confesseth She is more righteous then I. There was some modestie in this but what moderation do you vse to adiudge equiuocation which you fas●ly faine to be in Protestants to the pillory and for your selues in whom the Leprosie raigneth to vse an Apologie Thus haue I iustified the innocent whose names your equiuocating spirit hath wickedly traduced for whom this might haue bin a sufficient answer that because you bring onely accusations without proofe If it be sufficient to haue accused who can be innocent For our Lord Iesus euen innocency it self was accused who of his grace turne you to repentance that these your slaunders be not layd vnto your charge THE THIRD PART Which is a Confutation of the principles of Romish doctrine in two points 1. The supreme head of Rebellion 2. The impious conceit of Aequiuocation Concerning the first this shall be our Conclusion The Pope hath no authoritie from God to depose Kings or dispose of their Kingdomes CHAP. I. Romish Obiections answered THIS pretended predominance of the Pope in temporall causes whether Directly or indirectly considered in the which diuision of gouerning the Romish schoole is at this day extremely diuided if it be from God it will sure plead Scriptum est and be warranted by Gods word either in the Olde or New Testament This point is discussed by the state of Gods church in the Olde Testament Obiect 1. In the generall view The Romish Pretence The high Priests in the Olde Testament were supreme in ciuill causes Ergo Ought to be in the New The Answer This is so contrary to the Story in holy writ that by the examples of Kings in ordering though neuer in ordeining of Priests the Iesuits are inforced to allow that the King was supreme ouer the Priest Their reasons Because sayth one in the Synagogne of the Iewes was a state rather earthly than heauenly so that in that people which was as in the body of a man consisting of body and soule the carnall part was more eminent Meaning the temporall to haue beene supreme Or as another sayth more conceitedly The Temporall state exceeded the Spirituall in the olde Law as much as the Substantiue is more excellent than the Adiectiue In both these we dislike their comparison and accept