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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A75872	An answer to a book, titled, Quakers principles quaking: subscribed by the name of one Ralph Hale, with an epistle (so called) to the reader, subscribed with the name of one Zachariah Crofton. A principle of darkness, deceit, and confusion in Ralph Hale, and his fellow labourer in Sathans work Zachariah Crofton, is discovered by the Quakers principle, and the Quakers principle doth stand against the power of darkness, and all the false principles in the world, them to discover and lay open. The book was said to be modestly propounded by Ralph Hale, but in it I found so many lies, slanders, and false accusations, with confused, vain, and frivolous words, as many of them is not worth mentioning; yet, lest the author should boast in his mischief, I shall lay down somthing in answer to some few of them, in respect of the number of them. / A servant to the least in the houshold of faith, and the lest amonst his brethren, whose name in the flesh is William Adamson.	Addamson, William, 17th cent.	1656 (1656)	Wing A501; Thomason E897_3; ESTC R206690	24,865	37

so swinishly minded that Christ spake those words to they coveted no mans gold nor silver and if they had food and rayment they would be therewith content but the dogs will never be content and here take heed thou have not called evil good and good evil remember thou hast denounced a wo in the Title page of thy book to them that do so and all who have an eye may here see that wo meet with thee and everlastingly it is thy portion except with speed thou repent Hale And in the 8 page thou sayest thou would gladly know whether we will acknowledge the whole Scripture to be the Word of God or no I mean the whole Bible sayest thou Answ I say if thou mean that the whole B●ble is the Word of God I say Nay for I do acknowledge no God but one nor no word of God but one and Christ is that Word the Bible is no more then a true declaration of what it declares the Bible ●s a declaration of those words that God spake but not the whole Bible some p●rt of it is a declaration of those words he divel spake Luke 4.3 6. the divel said unto him If thou be the Son of God c. and the divil said ●nto him All this power will I give thee Is this the words of God or the words of the divel And further if I should say that the Bible were the Word of God thou would give no credit to it except thou be a lyar for there is no Scripture saith so and in the 25 page of thy book thou sayest if it be not Law and Testimony proof thou wilt give no credit to it for shame do not m●ke thy self a lyar lest whilst thou goes about to make the Quakers Principles quake thou break thy own in pieces Hile. And in the 7 page thou said the ministers work is for the perfecting of the Saints for the edifying of the Body of Christ which is the Church sayest thou Answ I say if the Ministers work be for the perfecting of the Saints and for the edifying of the Body of Christ then see that thou do not deny perfection in this life lest thou leave the Ministers neither time nor place to do their work in for the work that the Ministers doth they must do it in this life The dead that die in the Lord rest from their labours and their works follow them Rev. 14.13 there is no perfecting of the Saints in the grave and for the Body of Christ which thou sayest is the Church it is risen from the grave for the Church is in God therefore see that thou do not leave the Ministers their work to do after this life Hale And in the tenth page line the 14. thou sayest But you say this Law so much insisted upon together with the Priesthood of it is changed and the Commandment disanulled and this you bottom upon Hebr. 7.12 and 18. sayest thou Answ I say here let all take notice that the very same words that we bear witness to that is the changing of the Law and Priesthood and the disanulling of the Commandments and that on which we have bottomed it as thou thy self art forced to confess they are plain Scripture words without adding or diminishing as they are written in Heb. 7.12 and 18. and here again let all take notice what Spirit thou speaks from that by thy inchantment would make it seem as though the Law and Priesthood were not changed and the Commandments not disanulled except in such sancies and imaginations as thy vain mind can admit of and so would prove the Apostle a Lyar. Hale And whereas thou sayest thou dost affirm that Moses and the Prophets and the Gospel are all one in substance and in effect the very same Answ Ralph Hale thou dost affirm that whereof thou knows nothing but by hear-say thou never yet came to Christ who is the Gospel and there is no other Gospel nor to the Prophets nor to Moses estate but thou art between Adam and Moses and there death reigns over thee and if thou might not have talked of Moses the Prophets nor the Gospel till thou had known Moses to give a Law against sin and the transgressor in thee and the Prophets to denounce Gods judgements against sin in thee and the Gospel of peace that makes free from sin we had not found so many Scriptures wrested in thy Book by adding thy cursed meanings and the plagues of God must be added to him that adds Hale And in page 11. line 15. thou sayest in respect of order of the Priesthood it is not changed with the next words thou confutes that again for saith thou Christ is a Priest for ever after the order of Meschisedec and in page 15 two of the last lines thou sayest Christ is a Priest not after the order of Aaron but after the unchangeable order of Melchisedec Answ Ralph Hale Is this the modesty that thou talks of in the Title page of thy book in which thou propounds this stuff Thou here confesses that Christ is a Priest not after the order of Aaron but after the order of Melchisedec Now let all consider whether the Levitical Priesthood of Aarons order under which the Law was given to the people was not changed when another Priesthood was risen called by the name of another order the one being called by the order of Aaron and the other by the order of Melchisedec as in Heb. 7.11 which thou thy self art forced to confess that Christ is a Priest not after Aarons order but after the order of Melchisedec though before in page 11. line 19. thou said in respect of the order of the Priesthood it is not changed And here all may take notice of thy spirit of consusion and what saying and unsaying of a thing thou makes But when the Leopard is without spots then will that nature that thou lives in be without confusion Hale And thou sayest Tythes of Divine Right do belong to the servants of Melchised●chs order Answ I say if Tythes belongs to the servants then the Masters have nothing to do with them therefore see that you give not them to them that are called masters for by thy own rule they do not belong to masters but servants and the servants of Melchisedechs order who are Ministers of the Gospel they n●ither do nor never did demand them but will be content with Gospel wages If we have food and rayment let us be therewith content 1 Tim. 6.8 Hale And thou sayest I might instance the Sacraments of old under the Law Answ Ralph Hale Where is now thy modesty that thou talks of in the Title page of thy Book in which thou propounds thy stuff It is far from modesty to make lies and here thou d●st both make and instance lies for there is no such thing as a Sac ament ever men ioned in all the time under the Law therefore that is not Law and testimony proof then wilt sure

give no credit to it for shame lest thou make thy self a lyar and thou must here either prove thy self a lyar or thy book a cheat for in page 25. thou sayest if it be no● Law and Testimony proof thou will give no credit to it and here confider whose principles thou makes to q ake Hale And thou talks of two Sacraments more and calls them those two Sacraments that Christ instituted Answ Ralph Hale thou here again wants that modesty that thou talks of in thy Title page of thy book to propound thy stuff in for here thou hast propounded two lies and thou cast them on Christ which is furthest of all from modesty for thee to bely Christ for Christ never spake of such a thing as a Sacrament in all the Scriptures but thy grandfather the Pope invented S●craments and you plead for a remnant of them but the Pope and all his Sacraments we do deny and the true Baptism and the Lords Supper according to Scripture we own Hale And thou hast wrested the Scriptures so long by thy cursed meanings added to them to di●prove the Apostle who said there is verily a disanulling of the Commandment going before and he lays down the reason for the weakness and unprofitableness th●reo● H●b 7.18 ye thou having thy understanding darkned thou breaks forth and saith where lies now the disanulling of the Commandment except in the sense before mentioned sayest thou Answ I say the disanulling of ●he commandment stan●s now in the blood of Christ the everlasting Covenant of light life and peace where i● stood before thou begun to wrest these Scriptures to thy own destruction Hale For as to the total annihilating disanulling or destroying the Law our Saviour disclaims it in his own words sayest thou Answ I say what cunning crooked turns and ginns the serpent takes in thee to smite the innocent with thy tongue Here thou leaves forth our words and mentions what will make for thy wicked purpose and thou gives an answer to that and then sayest it is an answer to the Quakers paper Was there such a word in all th●t p per as that the Law is destroyed Wilt thou suffer the Divel forge his lies upon thy heart and then make thy self his servant to cast them upon us by his and thy Divelish inchantments Did Christ ever disclaim the changing of the Law and Priesthood or the disanulling of the commandments going before and that was the thing we spoke of and not the destroying of the Law as the paper it self in thy book printed stands a witness against thee Hale And thou sayest the Ministers of the Gospel are servants of Melchisedechs order Answ Ralph Hale Ministers of the Gospel be servants then that is one clear mark by which they may be known from those hypocrites dogs and hirelings that have greetings in the markets and are called of men Master Doth this make the Quakers principles quake or it cuts your own principles down let all judge That this is the thing that the Quakers do affirm that the Ministers of the Gospel should not be called masters but should be servants Therefore see thou write the Priest of Leverpool Master Fogge no more in thy Books lest thou shame him And thou pleads That Tythe of Divine Right belongs to the Ministers of the Gospel Answ Ralph Hale That is the thing that thou hast yet to prove I deny it Hale And thou sayest the way form and kinde in which the Ministers wages ought to be paid is not so clear from the New Testament as from the Old Answ I say the way form and kind in which the Ministers wages ought to be paid is as clear from the new Testament as Tithes was from the old but the greedy Dogs and hirelings will not be content with the wages that Christ appointed to the Ministers of the Gospel Is it not written Provide neither gold nor silver nor brass in your purses nor scripps for your journey neither two Coats nor shooes for the workman is worthy of his meat Matth. 10.9 and 10. Luke 10.7 8. Eat such things as they give for the Lab●urer is worthy of his hire And into whatsoever City ye enter and they receive you eat such things as is set before you Thus you see that the hire or wages that the Lord appointed was to eat and be satisfied as before mentioned they should not provide afore-hand but as the Lord appointed them yea to a coat or shooes they were not to go beyond his appointment but to be content with sufficiency for the present therefore I say unto you Take no thought for your life what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink nor yet for your Body what ye shall put on Mat. 6.25 and verse 28. Why take ye thought for rayment Consider the Lillies of the field c. and verse the 30 31 and 32. O ye of little faith Therefore take no thought saying What shall we eat Or what shall we drink Or wherewithal shall we be clothed For after all these things do the Gentiles seek and so forth Thus we see the Ministers wages ought to be paid set down by Christ himself and me-thinks Christs own words should take place with thee but indeed it is the Prophet said the Dogs will never have enough Isa 56.10 11. but tell me if this wages that Christ appointed for the Min●sters of the Gospel had been of a greater value or a greater proportion and had exceeded tythes in proportion as far as tythes exceed a sufficient maintainance of food and rayment dost thou not believe that those called Ministers in England would have pleaded up the maintenance that Christ had appointed as highly as they now do Tythes and have denied Tythes as clearly taken away except they could have had both Let all consider this Hale So then we see it pleased the most wise God whose is the earth and the fulness thereof to appoint such a proportion as the tenth part both before the Law and under the Law and never after expresly did take it off saith thou Answ I say to that which thou calls before the Law I shall answer thee in due time if God will and that which thou call under the Law I say God did not appoint it for the Priests only but for a due preparation f●r meat and drink for the strangers widdow and fatherless and the Levite because he had no inheritance among the rest of the people he was not to be forsaken but to eat and be satisfied as well as the strangers widdows and fatherless Deut. 14.27 28 29. and in Mal. 3.10 it is again clearly proved that tythes was appointed for a due and full how Christ not only forewarned his Ministers that they sho●ld not possess gold nor silver but also forewarn them that they should not provide before-hand for food and rayment and we find them as truly observing it If we have food and rayment let us be therewith content 1 Tim. 6.8

sayest Christ is perfection it self now I say If Christ be perfection it self and if perfection be not attainable in this life by this thou makes void all labouring and striving to attain to Christ in this life who said Come unto me all ye that are weary and heav●e laden and so you that are without perfection in this life you are without Christ in this life by thy own confession Hale And thou sayest Who-ever thou art that boastest of standing upon the feet of thy own perfection I say unto thee in the name of the Lord if thou standest at all thou standest by Faith Be not high minded but fear sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale When wilt thou cease from this secret sl●ndering and cunning fly ginns that thou hast to utter thy deceitful and hard speeches against us in for I see the Divels drift in thy words is to present us to the world as they that boasted of their own perfection and all such boasting and boasters we do deny both in word and thought and before Gods Judgement seat do I stand justified in this thing and when the Book of Conscience is opened thou shalt find this true and then shalt thou with the rest of Cains and Ishmaels brood receive a just reward for all your hard and scornful speeches against us And the perfection which we own is the perfect righteous glory of God in Christ manifested in the creature which is attained unto and enjoyed by the faith of the Son of God in the light abiding and not else therefore unknown to thee and all self righteousness and perfections we do utterly deny Hale And thou reckons up four perfections one after another in the 21 and 22 pages First Thou sayest there is an imputative perfection Secondly There is perfection in part sayest thou And thirdly There is a comparative perfection And fourthly and lastly There is an absolute perfection sayest thou And three of them thou wilt acknowledge to be attainable in this life and the fourth unattainable All which I shall by the assistance of God make clear by Scripture and that very briefly sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale Here again thou wants that mod●sty that thou s●eaks of in the Title page of thy book to propound thy stuff in for here thou was more brief and hasty then e●ther modest or wis● in saying thou would make it cl●ar by Scripture that there is four perfections I say there is no Scripture that spe●ks of four perfections thou may prove it as soon as thou can and by what thou can for if there be four perfections they are more then we own or ●ver spoke of or ●ver knew of by three of them and thou sayest that three of them is at a n●ble in this life and when we say there is but one perfection attainable in this life you are angry with us and deni●s it and some will say it is blasp●emy yet in thy modesty hast propounded three for your selves I say those three strange perfections that thou talks of shall be for your selves for we own no perfection but one and that is the perfect righteous glory of God in Christ Jesus the everlast●ng covenant of life light and peace given by the measure of the gist of Christ the light and manifest in the creature to the glory of the praise of God and the least measure of that is perfect and what is perfect is absolutely perfect according to the measure of the gift of God and the gift of God is absolutely perfect and there is no image or likeness to be made of perfection he that calls any thing else perfection is an Image-maker and a Wizard Hale And in page the 22. thou sayest There is an absolute perfection when the members shall be made like Christ our Head when we shall be glorified together with him when these vile b●dies shall be made like his glorious body sayest thou but I say observe these following words when all the remainders of corrupt nature shall be consumed in Gods furnace I mean the grave sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale Here let all take notice that thou hast affirmed that perfection is not attainable till all the remainders of corrupt nature shall be consumed in Gods fornace and let them take notice that thou sayest thou means the grave I say here we smell the evil factor of the Pope in thee and by this thou lays open and plain your secret sub●le masked pop●ry which you hold up and truly thou hast dealt more plainly and honestly then the old Serpent will do in many of you in that thou hast told us of a furnace in which the remainders of your corrupt nature must be consumed before that you can be perfect and sayest thou means the grave for ●ere thou hast fully unmasked Antichrist and the Pope in you that he begins to appear in his own colours and it is no marvel if you deny perfection in this life that hopes for a furnace in the grave to c●nsume the remainders of your corrupt nature in but I pray thee how far lies that furnace that thou talks of in the grave from the Popes purgatory and what difference between them and whether it is not the same yea or nay though thou would colour it over with another name put upon it and so if it were possible thou would deceive the very elect with it but is that furnace that thou talks of in the grave the power by which thou wilt make the Quakers principles so to quake that thou so highly boasts or in Titleing thy book Quakers principles quak●ng But if whilst thou hast gone about to make the Quakers principles quake I say if that while thou hast not brok●n thy own in pieces let all who have the eye of discerning consider it Hale And whereas thou talks of Christ your head and you his members for thou sayest when we the members shall be made like Christ our head Answ Ralph Hale Thou may own the Pope for thy head whilst thou talks of a furnace in the grave and for Christ thou hast put him at a great distance from you in that thou sayest Christ is perfection it self and yet saith perfection is not attainable in this life here by thy own words Christ whom thou sayest is your head and thou sayest he is perfection it self and you members must never meet together whilst you are in this life Thus thou hast put a great distance between Christ and you in that thou sayest Christ is perfection it self and yet saith perfection is not attainable in this life Hale And in page 25. thou art talking of a full answer to our paper Answ Ralph Hale if thou wilt answer it fully when will thou answer that part of it about the Priests that if they will take tythes they should feed the poor strangers widdows and fatherless with them but it was the practice of Judas who was a thief and betrayed Christ to plead hard for somthing to put in the bag but