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judge_v by_o these_o thing_n follow_v â—_o let_v the_o matter_n handle_v and_o conclude_v in_o this_o synod_n be_v objecâ—…ly_o of_o never_o so_o â—…caâ—_n consequence_n yet_o by_o mr._n lockier_n 〈…〉_o prosecution_n of_o his_o 〈◊〉_d assertion_n namely_o sect_n 30._o and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o synod_n act_n and_o determination_n thereupon_o be_v mere_a counsel_n and_o no_o authoritative_a juriâ—dictionall_a decree_n nor_o can_v they_o do_v any_o more_o but_o counsel_n and_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o independent_a doctrine_n which_o 〈…〉_o truth_n but_o from_o this_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la if_o 〈…〉_o with_o apostle_n and_o elder_n in_o a_o mater_fw-la of_o mere_a counsel_n and_o advise_v what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n now_o in_o controversy_n because_o private_a christian_n may_v joint_o concur_v with_o â—…ders_n in_o act_n of_o counsel_n do_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o must_v also_o joint_a 〈◊〉_d â—…thoritatively_o concur_v with_o they_o in_o authoritative_a juridical_a act_n of_o government_n 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jerusalem_n as_o have_v be_v also_o show_v 2._o we_o deny_v that_o these_o private_a brethren_n concur_v with_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n authoritative_o in_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o sentence_n they_o give_v at_o most_o but_o their_o private_a assent_n and_o approbation_n which_o we_o grant_v may_v be_v give_v unto_o private_a christian_n in_o any_o synod_n that_o they_o have_v not_o authoritative_a definitive_a vote_n seem_v clear_a from_o somewhat_o express_v in_o the_o history_n itself_o of_o â—…at_a synod_n observe_v by_o mr._n rutherfurd_n peace_n plea._n c._n 14._o p._n 213_o first_o these_o only_o have_v definitive_a vote_n who_o meet_v together_o synodical_o to_o consider_v of_o the_o question_n but_o these_o be_v only_a apostle_n and_o elder_n c._n 15._o v._n 7._o non_fw-la dicit_fw-la lucas_n convenisse_fw-la totam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sed_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la ratione_fw-la officij_fw-la erant_fw-la legittimi_fw-la judices_fw-la calv._n come_v in_o loc_n 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