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spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la soluit_fw-la jesum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la antichristus_fw-la 4.3_o antichristus_fw-la 1._o joan._n 4.3_o and_o this_o argument_n have_v great_a force_n in_o their_o opinion_n who_o shall_v think_v that_o christ_n leave_v heaven_n for_o the_o time_n &_o come_v down_o real_o according_a to_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n for_o how_o can_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n come_v down_o from_o heaven_n without_o blood_n and_o soul_n unless_o he_o come_v down_o dead_a and_o so_o christ_n shall_v be_v not_o only_o mystical_o &_o figurative_o but_o true_o &_o real_o massacre_v in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o bloody_a sacrifice_n and_o not_o incruent_a as_o the_o father_n term_n it_o second_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n or_o rather_o christ_n be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o priest_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o a_o 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body_n soul_n flesh_n blood_n to_o be_v under_o the_o form_n
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homini_fw-la manet_fw-la infensus_fw-la ut_fw-la meritâ—_n
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unto_o it_o person_n the_o second_o argument_n this_o axione_n of_o philosophy_n that_o no_o man_n think_v it_o disavow_v in_o theology_n the_o ancient_a father_n uniform_o teach_v as_o a_o prime_a truth_n evident_a in_o reason_n s._n damascene_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12._o s._n augustine_n the_o doct_n christ._n c._n 9_o s._n ambrose_n de_fw-fr dom._n incarn_n sacrament_n c._n 7._o s._n basill_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la c._n 18._o s._n athanasius_n serm._n contra_fw-la arianos_fw-la play_n arianos_fw-la the_o minister_n pag._n 229._o lin_v 24._o answer_v to_o these_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n in_o this_o sort_n damascene_fw-la be_v not_o ancient_a nor_o orthodoxal_a in_o all_o point_n for_o as_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n say_v the_o scriptor_n eccles._n pag._n 269._o he_o deny_v the_o procession_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o son_n s._n augustine_n speak_v of_o sign_n
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