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Is it not speaking unto men to Edification and Exhortation and comfort 1 Cor. 14. 1 3. Is is not preferred before the gift of tongues How much more then is it to be prefer'd before Learnedness in the tongues which is onely taught by humane Document and is not given as a manifestation of the Spirit but is that which a carnal man that knoweth nothing neither can know any thing concerning spiritual things may attain unto 1 Cor. 2. 14. Therefore learnedness in the tongues being no manifestation of the Spirit at all is therefore no signe that men are called of God and sent to preach But he that hath prophesie let him prophesie according to the proportion of faith But who is this He that hath prophesie in the Apostles sence in this place But he that speaketh unto men to Edification and Exhortation and Comfort And yet further by way of Directory he giveth forth a most exact Rule to wit Quest But how and what order must be used Answ Let the Prophets speak two or three and let the rest judge And if any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by let the first hold his peace Quest But why so Answ For ye may all speake one by one that all may learn and all may be comforted vers 29 30 31. Quest But where and when and in what company must this be that the Prophets may all speak one by one Answ When the whole Church of the Corinthians was come together as vers 23 24 25 26 27. And therefore also when any whole Church rightly constituted as the Corinthians was are come together they may do the like Quest But were not this immodesty in these dayes when the whole Church is come together in some place and every one hath a Psalme hath Doctrine hath a Tongue hath Revelation hath an Interpretation That all these one by one should be communicated for the good of the whole as vers 26 27 31 32. all that are Prophets I meane for so is the Directory vers 29. 24. Answ Was this the practise of the Churches in the Primitive times by the Apostles direction Might all that were zealous of spiritual gifts seek that they might excell to the Edifying of the Church as vers 12. And must it therefore now be accounted immodesty because it is not the custome in our Churches before these times Yea must it be accounted immodesty to use the same liberty in those Churches which are of purpose so constituted that the gifts of al that are so qualified may be most useful and profitable unto all that all might learne and all might be comforted and all might be edified as vers 30. 31. And might grow in grace from faith to faith and from strength to strength till they come to be tall men and women in Jesus Christ as Psal 84. 7. Yea that holding the Head from which all the body by joynts and bands having nourishment ministred and knit together might the more increase with the increase of God as Coloss 2. 19. and Chap. 3. 12 13. to 18. And why should any member of the mystical body of Jesus Christ be therefore despised as uselesse and unprofitable because unlearned in the tongues Hath not God himself on purpose so provided and tempered the body together and given more honour to that part which lacked that there might be no Schisme in the body but that the members might learn to have the same care one of another Seeing the heat cannot say to the feet I have no need of you as Chap. 12. 13. c. to the end Proposing the usefulnesse and propriety and necessity of every member of our natural bodies to be as patterns unto bodies spiritual that all the members in their several places might be accounted of incouraged honoured comforted edified and esteemed of as they ought to be necessary and useful for the good of the whole shewing that the most feeble members ought not to be despised but as much as in us lieth honored and clothed with more abundant comeliness And every one called forth employed desired and deputed by such who can discern their proper gifts or fitness and abilities for the necessary use and good of the whole or of any other parts or members of the body to such employments as they are fittest for And this calling and deputation would take away all appearance or suspition of immodesty in any such members to what ever employment they are called unto But while it is otherwise and that the very constitution of our Presbyterian Churches require that none be admitted but that is so and so learned and that enters in by the learned's door It were immodesty to observe the Apostles rules in such Presbyterian Churches And it is no marvel if such who do it yea though in other Churches be accounted silly fellows and tubpreachers by the rude people who it may be account them as they did paul and others no better then mad as Vers 23. For they are so accounted and spoken of too and that by our grave Divines so reverendly they esteem of the gifts of God and of the graces of his Spirit which are the more perspicuous by how much more they are unlearned in the Tongues And therefore it is no marvel if it be so unto them all as is spoken in these Scriptures Isa 29. from the 9 to the end Micab 3. 5 6 7 8. Hosea 8. 12. Let them look to it that despise prophecying that resist and Spirit yea that like Jannes and Jambres resist the Truth and that despise but the least of those little ones that beleeve in Christ for they do despise and resist him and his sacred Truth And it is to be feared that many are guilty even of speaking words against the holy Ghost A dangerous sin as it needs must be that shall never be forgiven either in this life or in the life to come as Mat. 12 30 31 32. It is no marvel if such Ministers yea though the chiefest of all on the face of the earth have no manifest Vision as once it was in the days of Eli when they caused the people to despise the offering of the Lord even so I mean they cause the people to despise such service and offerings and sacrifice as God now requires as Rom 12. 1● Rev. 1. 6. 1 Pet. 2. 7 8 9 10. For they that despise these things despise not men but God It is no marvel if they must be content either to learn it at babes or to be without and dye without knowledg as 1 Sam. 3. 1 17 18. Hos 4 5 6. Object But it will be objected That the like ways for edifying of the Church in these days that were practised in the Apostles times are not suitable now because that those extraordinary gifts are ceased Ans 1. I answer That the chief and most profitable of all those gifts for edifying of the Church is still on foot to wit Prophecying speaking unto men to edification and