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be_v true_a another_o ground_n thereof_o there_o be_v likewise_o &_o that_o of_o no_o less_o importance_n in_o this_o matter_n which_o be_v that_o christ_n true_a visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n under_o the_o gospel_n consist_v not_o of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n but_o only_o of_o one_o which_o i_o have_v at_o large_a prove_v to_o be_v a_o truth_n and_o have_v make_v it_o manifest_v in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 10.11.12_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o reas._n for_o reform_v pag._n 19.20_o &_o 65.66_o and_o again_o 8._o again_o chapt._n 8._o here_o after_o i_o do_v show_v it_o further_o yet_o the_o former_a point_n in_o some_o respect_n may_v be_v think_v rather_o the_o chief_a because_o this_o second_o be_v a_o dependent_a on_o the_o former_a &_o follow_v by_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n from_o it_o as_o partly_o be_v show_v in_o the_o say_v declarat_fw-la pag._n 13.14_o and_o more_o full_o in_o the_o vii_o chapt._n of_o this_o present_a treatise_n ensue_a again_o that_o require_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n note_v christ_n visible_a church_n nature_n and_o essence_n intensiuè_fw-fr intensiuè_fw-la the_o church_n nature_n intensiuè_fw-la as_o the_o school_n do_v speak_v that_o be_v it_o show_v thâ—_n ground_n of_o the_o power_n and_o life_n thereof_o the_o other_o show_v the_o essence_n of_o it_o extensiuè_fw-la extensiuè_n extensiuè_n that_o be_v the_o largeness_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n &_o just_a extent_n or_o the_o due_a limit_n and_o bound_n thereof_o outward_o wherefore_o that_o require_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n be_v manifest_o a_o most_o proper_a and_o special_a argument_n in_o our_o cause_n and_o such_o as_o touch_v the_o quick_a in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o say_a reformation_n most_o near_o d._n downame_n err_v great_o in_o his_o late_a defence_n make_v his_o first_o book_n thereof_o full_a long_a &_o tedious_a only_o to_o disprove_v lay_v elder_n as_o he_o call_v they_o think_v without_o all_o reason_n that_o if_o 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he_o say_v his_o adversary_n must_v 1.6_o must_v defen_n 1.6_o confess_v himself_o ignorant_a in_o logic_n if_o he_o will_v deny_v this_o his_o inference_n and_o so_o 62._o so_o pag._n 62._o this_o passage_n concern_v lay_v elder_n he_o hope_v will_v be_v acknowledge_v not_o to_o be_v impertinent_a never_o a_o whit_n true_o impertinent_a the_o question_n of_o elder_n whole_o impertinent_a for_o this_o passage_n still_o be_v not_o only_o impertinent_a and_o idle_a but_o even_o a_o false_a defence_n of_o those_o who_o he_o pead_v for_o if_o he_o will_v yet_o hold_v his_o opinion_n still_o he_o have_v not_o logic_n at_o command_n neither_o can_v he_o by_o his_o sophistry_n among_o man_n of_o any_o understand_v make_v that_o to_o seem_v which_o be_v not_o where_o he_o say_v it_o be_v 61._o be_v pag._n 61._o presuppose_v on_o both_o side_n it_o be_v his_o folly_n to_o say_v so_o and_o in_o say_v his_o refuter_fw-la witness_v it_o he_o gross_o abuse_v he_o he_o do_v the_o contrary_a in_o the_o same_o place_n which_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o he_o for_o the_o doctor_n leave_v out_o his_o refuter_n word_n present_o follow_v those_o which_o he_o allege_v which_o late_a word_n be_v flat_a against_o he_o so_o just_o and_o true_o our_o doctor_n deal_v in_o his_o writing_n like_o to_o this_o be_v his_o great_a boast_n which_o he_o make_v here_o in_o his_o book_n and_o often_o afterward_o also_o viz._n that_o he_o have_v find_v out_o two_o sort_n of_o disciplinarian_o as_o he_o wisedometerm_v they_o one_o 2.147_o one_o defenc._n 1.60_o and_o 2.147_o elder_n and_o more_o learned_a the_o chief_a of_o who_o he_o say_v be_v calvin_n and_o beza_n another_o new_a shallow_a and_o ignorant_a sort_n of_o who_o he_o make_v 82.130_o make_v defenc._n 2.2_o 82.130_o master_n cartwright_n chief_a adjoin_v other_o of_o we_o since_o unto_o he_o but_o what_o difference_n â—ndeth_v he_o in_o these_o disciplinarian_o forsooth_o the_o elder_n he_o say_v hold_v presbytery_n in_o city_n to_o govern_v â—hole_a diocese_n and_o province_n and_o â—erein_o he_o avouch_v 2.2_o avouch_v defenc._n 2.2_o they_o join_v with_o â—e_a bishop_n in_o england_n against_o the_o new_a sort_n of_o â—isciplinarians_n the_o new_a sort_n 1.60_o sort_n defen_n 1.60_o bold_o and_o ignorant_o hold_v parishional_a presbytery_n naythis_n doctor_n slander_v either_o ignorant_o or_o malicious_o for_o we_o who_o he_o make_v of_o the_o new_a shallow_a â—nd_v ignorant_a sort_n we_o i_o say_v substance_n we_o agree_v with_o calvin_n &_o beza_n in_o substance_n differ_v not_o â—ne_a hair_n from_o calvin_n and_o beza_n touch_v the_o substance_n of_o this_o matter_n we_o as_o they_o &_o they_o as_o we_o do_v acknowledge_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o that_o â—s_n both_o the_o parishional_a and_o the_o diocesan_n presbytery_n yea_o the_o provincial_n and_o large_a too_o if_o occasion_n serve_v â—t_z be_v false_a which_o he_o impute_v to_o calvinâ—nd_n â—nd_z beza_n that_o they_o maintain_v the_o church-governement_n by_o diocesan_n &_o provincial_n presbytery_n absolute_o without_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o people_n consent_n in_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n also_o that_o herein_o they_o join_v with_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n or_o that_o they_o material_o differ_v from_o us._n all_o which_o god_n willing_a we_o shall_v show_v to_o be_v untrue_a and_o that_o most_o clear_o in_o the_o 3._o chapt._n &_o also_o in_o the_o 7._o &_o 8._o here_o follow_v wherefore_o these_o be_v all_o slanderous_a forgery_n of_o the_o doctor_n devise_v of_o purpose_n to_o make_v our_o innocence_n odious_a by_o all_o the_o shift_n be_v can_v &_o to_o cast_v some_o 1.53_o some_o defen_n 1.53_o colour_n of_o just_a cause_n or_o show_v of_o reason_n for_o his_o leave_v of_o our_o acquaintance_n profession_n wherefore_o d._n downame_n leave_v his_o first_o profession_n to_o who_o heretofore_o he_o join_v himself_o namely_o while_o there_o be_v some_o expectation_n of_o his_o majesty_n favour_n 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meaning_n be_v to_o be_v take_v altogether_o to_o that_o purpose_n likewise_o in_o the_o church_n â—amâ—_n that_o be_v execute_v the_o church_n authority_n and_o power_n and_o do_v that_o which_o they_o do_v with_o their_o free_a conâ—ent_n and_o approbation_n chemniciâ—â—_n 16._o chemniciâ—â—_n chemnicius_n a_o man_n most_o famous_a &_o of_o â—are_a learning_n among_o the_o follower_n of_o luther_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n yet_o in_o our_o cause_n he_o say_v thus_o 228._o thus_o exam._n part_n pag._n 226._o 227._o 228._o non_fw-la sine_fw-la consensu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la paulus_n &_o barâ—abas_n invitis_fw-la obtruserunt_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v not_o thrust_v minister_n on_o the_o church_n be_v unwilling_a or_o without_o their_o consent_n and_o exempla_fw-la aposiolica_n bistoria_fw-la â—â—are_n oftendunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n story_n do_v clear_o show_v that_o election_n or_o vocation_n do_v 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nothing_o shall_v be_v obtrude_v upon_o any_o people_n in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o spiritual_a regiment_n no_o not_o by_o synod_n except_o the_o people_n consent_n to_o it_o and_o this_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n hitherto_o avouch_v very_o many_o other_o worthy_a divine_n both_o among_o we_o &_o abroad_o do_v maintain_v likewise_o but_o i_o forbear_v to_o nominate_v any_o mo_z know_v that_o to_o who_o any_o thing_n will_v be_v enough_o
and_o take_v to_o myself_o alone_o common_a matter_n add_v unto_o this_o that_o he_o say_v also_o 4_o also_o â—_o 4_o apud_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la &_o ferè_fw-la per_fw-la provincias_fw-la universas_fw-la teâ—etur_fw-la thus_o custom_n and_o practice_n be_v observe_v with_o we_o at_o carthage_n &_o almost_o through_o out_o all_o province_n by_o all_o which_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o d._n bilson_n vain_o answer_v that_o cyprian_n do_v yield_v to_o the_o people_n their_o free_a consent_n in_o the_o church-governement_n out_o of_o 176._o of_o d._n bilâ—_n perpet_n gover_n pag._n 171._o 176._o a_o private_a moderation_n and_o but_o of_o his_o own_o free_a will_n nay_o he_o say_v as_o we_o hear_v that_o he_o dare_v not_o do_v otherwise_o and_o that_o he_o observe_v it_o out_o of_o religion_n and_o that_o this_o power_n of_o the_o people_n come_v from_o divine_a authority_n yea_o doubtless_o such_o a_o general_a and_o perpetual_a custom_n even_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o appear_v in_o the_o apostle_n practise_v also_o as_o the_o new_a testament_n show_v can_v not_o be_v in_o cypriaen_n a_o private_a moderation_n only_o but_o even_o a_o unchangeable_a law_n neither_o be_v that_o any_o true_a where_o he_o say_v that_o 178._o that_o pag._n 178._o cyprian_n himself_o be_v the_o first_o that_o cashier_v his_o own_o confession_n 18â—_n confession_n pag._n 18â—_n and_o break_v that_o custom_n he_o break_v it_o not_o he_o do_v not_o cassier_n his_o own_o confession_n though_o that_o be_v a_o thing_n not_o impossible_a cyprian_n be_v not_o so_o perfect_a but_o he_o may_v thus_o fail_v through_o affection_n to_o himself_o and_o yet_o his_o former_a testimony_n of_o the_o people_n right_a and_o power_n afore_o say_v may_v be_v as_o they_o be_v most_o true_a but_o as_o i_o say_v cyprian_a neverbrake_n this_o his_o own_o &_o other_o custom_n very_o as_o touch_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n he_o never_o break_v it_o what_o instance_n have_v he_o against_o we_o say_v he_o cyprian_n without_o the_o people_n make_v 4.5_o epist_n 4.5_o celerinus_n 5._o celerinus_n 2_o 5._o aurelius_n and_o 3.22_o and_o 3.22_o satyrus_n reader_n and_o optatus_n a_o subdeacon_n what_o of_o this_o none_o of_o these_o come_v into_o our_o question_n we_o have_v no_o care_n of_o make_v reader_n and_o subdeacons_n but_o without_o the_o people_n he_o make_v 4.10_o make_v 4.10_o numidicus_n a_o presbyter_n the_o place_n show_v no_o such_o matter_n nor_o yet_o that_o he_o be_v make_v presbyter_n then_o but_o rather_o be_v absent_a he_o show_v the_o presbyter_n and_o people_n at_o carthage_n that_o numidicus_n be_v to_o be_v make_v a_o presbyter_n say_v in_o the_o future_a tense_n et_fw-la promovebitur_fw-la quidem_fw-la dum_fw-la tempus_fw-la permiserit_fw-la ad_fw-la ampliorem_fw-la locum_fw-la religionis_fw-la suae_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o presentia_fw-la protegente_fw-la dominâ—_n venerimus_fw-la he_o shall_v be_v promote_v when_o we_o shall_v come_v in_o presence_n among_o you_o so_o that_o he_o say_v not_o that_o he_o alone_o have_v now_o make_v he_o a_o presbyter_n beside_o it_o be_v most_o manifest_a in_o all_o these_o place_n that_o cyprian_n show_v a_o special_a care_n to_o have_v the_o people_n like_n and_o free_a consent_n to_o all_o which_o he_o do_v and_o that_o in_o his_o absence_n he_o will_v attempt_v not_o any_o thing_n but_o that_o which_o he_o presume_v &_o be_v sure_a of_o that_o their_o like_n be_v to_o it_o as_o much_o as_o his_o own_o so_o that_o he_o make_v it_o apparent_a even_o here_o that_o he_o will_v do_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n against_o their_o will_n which_o be_v all_o that_o we_o seek_v also_o in_o our_o assertion_n as_o touch_v the_o substance_n of_o it_o as_o before_o we_o have_v often_o show_v last_o of_o all_o he_o say_v of_o numidicus_n that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v a_o presbyter_n dignatione_fw-la divinâ_fw-la by_o god_n special_a divine_a will_n and_o that_o celerinus_n and_o aurelius_n have_v their_o place_n 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matter_n be_v hardly_o get_v at_o their_o hand_n yea_o a_o whilè_fw-la they_o speak_v against_o it_o but_o they_o be_v persuade_v at_o last_o and_o so_o in_o conclusion_n they_o agree_v to_o do_v as_o he_o think_v good_a thus_o he_o do_v not_o this_o thing_n plain_o and_o simple_o without_o the_o people_n consent_n or_o against_o their_o wâ—â—s_n simple_o but_o with_o their_o consent_n &_o agreement_n so_o as_o i_o say_v whereby_o it_o appear_v how_o frivolous_a exception_n be_v take_v against_o cyprian_n concurrence_n and_o correspondence_n with_o we_o in_o this_o cause_n who_o most_o clear_a and_o unanswerable_a and_o frequent_a speak_v on_o our_o part_n herein_o we_o have_v see_v before_o now_o only_o one_o place_n more_o i_o will_v note_v in_o he_o describe_v full_o his_o ordinary_a practice_n in_o church_n government_n and_o may_v be_v a_o singular_a example_n and_o pattern_n for_o us._n epist._n 3.11_o show_v how_o he_o receive_v again_o certain_a pâ—enitents_n who_o have_v schism_v from_o the_o church_n he_o say_v thereof_o first_o 3.11_o first_o 3.11_o omni_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyteâ—un_fw-la every_o act_n of_o their_o repentance_n be_v bring_v unto_o i_o i_o think_v good_a to_o call_v together_o he_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n whether_o here_o be_v any_o lay_v elder_n in_o this_o presbyteric_a or_o whether_o all_o be_v ordinary_a minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n it_o be_v nothing_o material_a though_o d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n do_v make_v all_o their_o stir_n about_o this_o question_n yet_o as_o i_o say_v even_o in_o the_o 23._o the_o pag._n 11._o 12._o 23._o entrance_n of_o this_o treatise_n it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o controversy_n between_o we_o but_o it_o be_v impertinent_a &_o from_o the_o main_a purpose_n altogether_o to_o pass_v this_o therefore_o second_o cyprian_n in_o this_o place_n add_v his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n then_o the_o peâ—ntentes_n come_v into_o the_o eldership_n earnest_o pray_v that_o the_o thing_n they_o have_v commit_v may_v be_v forget_v etc._n etc._n three_o quod_fw-la eâ—at_fw-la consequens_fw-la omnis_fw-la hic_fw-la actus_fw-la populo_fw-la fuerat_fw-la â—nsinuandus_fw-la it_o remain_v that_o all_o this_o action_n be_v to_o be_v signify_v to_o the_o people_n magnus_fw-la fraâ—ernitatis_fw-la concursus_fw-la factus_fw-la est_fw-la there_o be_v a_o great_a meeting_n of_o the_o brethren_n una_fw-la vox_fw-la eras_fw-la â—mnium_fw-la maximum_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la agnoscereiussimus_fw-la caeteros_fw-la cum_fw-la ingenti_fw-la populi_fw-la suffragio_fw-la recepimus_fw-la there_o be_v one_o voice_n of_o we_o all_o we_o will_v maximus_n the_o presbyter_n to_o know_v his_o place_n the_o rest_n we_o receive_v with_o a_o great_a voycegive_a of_o the_o people_n allow_v it_o here_o we_o see_v what_o place_n and_o order_n &_o consent_v the_o people_n under_o cyprian_a have_v in_o the_o ordinary_a church_n government_n certain_o it_o be_v a_o plain_a example_n and_o right_a worthy_a to_o be_v follow_v of_o us._n and_o so_o much_o concern_v cyprian_n be_v sufficient_a a_o while_n after_o this_o time_n antioch_n antioch_n at_o antioch_n the_o neighbour_n bishop_n come_v together_o 27â—_n anno_fw-la 27â—_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o even_o the_o church_n thereabouts_o concur_v and_o join_v with_o they_o in_o the_o act_n of_o excommunicate_v &_o depose_v paul_n the_o bishop_n there_o and_o in_o ordain_v domnus_n in_o his_o room_n this_o they_o signify_v iâ—_n the_o title_n of_o their_o 7.24_o their_o euseb_n 7.24_o epistle_n which_o they_o all_o together_o do_v write_v about_o this_o matter_n now_o questionless_a among_o these_o church_n the_o church_n that_o be_v the_o people_n of_o antioch_n itself_o be_v the_o principal_a in_o this_o action_n for_o they_o be_v the_o proper_a body_n of_o which_o that_o wicked_a bishop_n be_v the_o proper_a ministerial_a head_n also_o there_o the_o meeting_n about_o his_o depose_n
have_v to_o that_o purâ—ise_n handle_v in_o my_o 3._o and_o 9_o argument_n of_o the_o divine_a beginning_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n visible_a and_o ministerial_a church_n do_v well_o show_v and_o testify_v to_o we_o so_o much_o chap._n vi_o our_o very_a adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v with_o we_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n 6._o chap._n 6._o and_o sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n special_o when_o they_o deal_v against_o the_o papist_n the_o force_n and_o evidence_n of_o this_o truth_n viz._n touch_v the_o people_n right_a for_o their_o free_a consent_n in_o church_n government_n be_v such_o that_o also_o our_o very_a adversary_n sometime_o in_o plain_a term_n sometime_o to_o the_o same_o full_a effect_n do_v acknowledge_v it_o among_o many_o i_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o two_o for_o the_o present_a viz._n d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n the_o first_o of_o these_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o seminary_n pristes_fw-fr and_o jesuit_n write_v thus_o 353.356_o thus_o d._n bila_n against_o the_o seminar_n part_n 2_o 353.356_o we_o have_v the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o h._n ghost_n for_o that_o which_o we_o say_v etc._n etc._n viz._n that_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o disceme_v and_o try_v the_o doctrine_n and_o spirit_n of_o the_o teacher_n &c_n &c_n so_o to_o choose_v and_o refuse_v they_o as_o they_o by_o the_o word_n shall_v see_v good_a thus_o say_v he_o and_o what_o can_v be_v speak_v by_o any_o of_o our_o self_n more_o plain_o and_o more_o full_o to_o our_o purpose_n if_o the_o people_n can_v and_o aught_o to_o choose_v their_o teacher_n and_o to_o refuse_v who_o they_o find_v worthy_a to_o be_v refuse_v then_o why_o be_v they_o not_o allow_v so_o to_o do_v in_o england_n if_o the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v for_o it_o than_o who_o may_v impeach_v it_o who_o may_v resist_v it_o what_o be_v they_o that_o revile_v and_o 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be_v then_o certain_o it_o be_v essential_a therein_o at_o all_o time_n and_o evermore_o the_o truth_n hereof_o can_v never_o be_v deny_v and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o luther_n say_v if_o titus_n will_v not_o finem_fw-la luth._o the_o ministr_n eccles_n instit_fw-la propâ—_n finem_fw-la the_o congregation_n may_v ordain_v minister_n to_o themselves_o and_o of_o excommunication_n zuinglius_fw-la say_v 31._o say_v artic._n 31._o non_fw-la quod_fw-la solus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la hac_fw-la facere_fw-la debeat_fw-la cuique_fw-la hoc_fw-la â—â—â—est_fw-la si_fw-la episcopus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la negligens_fw-la any_o man_n may_v do_v this_o if_o the_o bishop_n be_v negligent_a he_o mean_v any_o man_n appoint_v by_o the_o church_n may_v do_v it_o in_o which_o respect_n also_o that_o sentence_n of_o epiphanius_n that_o 75._o that_o epiph._n haereâ—â—_n 75._o biâ—â—ops_n can_v beget_v father_n to_o the_o church_n but_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v to_o be_v refuse_v as_o untrue_a and_o erroneous_a 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can_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o see_v thâ—_n whole_a congregation_n do_v always_o give_v the_o call_v of_o ordinary_a minister_n essential_o therefore_o the_o whole_a congregation_n ought_v always_o of_o necessity_n tâ—_n give_v their_o free_a consent_n to_o their_o minister_n at_o least_o so_o far_o forth_o that_o nonâ—_n be_v impose_v on_o they_o whether_o they_o will_v or_o no._n the_o like_a also_o be_v to_o be_v saiâ—_n of_o their_o power_n in_o jurisdiction_n and_o these_o point_n we_o must_v imagine_v that_o they_o be_v acknowledge_v and_o hold_v by_o d._n downame_n or_o sure_o that_o he_o ought_v to_o acknowledge_v they_o all_o see_v by_o force_n of_o true_a reason_n they_o all_o do_v follow_v from_o those_o his_o word_n which_o he_o affirm_v &_o hold_v as_o before_o i_o have_v declare_v now_o this_o be_v all_o that_o we_o profess_v touch_v the_o pleoples_n right_a tâ—_n church_n government_n for_o we_o deniâ—_n not_o but_o in_o the_o ordinary_a &_o peaceable_a and_o right_a state_n of_o the_o church_n when_o all_o thing_n be_v carry_v well_o the_o chief_a diâ—ection_n &_o sway_v of_o the_o whole_a government_n belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n or_o paâ—tor_n the_o people_n be_v on_o their_o part_n â—o_o hearken_v to_o their_o teacher_n &_o to_o follow_v their_o guide_n obedient_o &_o dutieâ—ully_o 1.41_o d._n down_o deâ—â—_n 1.41_o their_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o to_o provide_v otherwise_o for_o themselves_o be_v when_o they_o see_v their_o guide_n to_o fail_v which_o see_v it_o be_v his_o mind_n also_o set_v down_o in_o his_o own_o word_n before_o rehearse_v i_o have_v true_o affirm_v that_o â—ouching_v our_o present_a cause_n even_o this_o doctor_n agree_v with_o we_o sometime_o in_o â—ull_a effect_n &_o by_o good_a consequence_n of_o â—eason_n from_o his_o express_a word_n though_o at_o other_o time_n he_o do_v as_o some_o report_n cicero_n say_v to_o sallust_n sallust_n sallust_n orat._n 〈◊〉_d cicer._n 〈◊〉_d sallust_n aliud_fw-la stans_fw-la â—â—â—â—d_fw-la sedens_fw-la de_fw-fr repub_fw-la sentis_fw-la of_o the_o common_a â—ealth_n thou_o think_v one_o thing_n stand_v another_z sitting_z of_o christ_n visible_a church_n and_o the_o government_n thereof_o very_o our_o doctor_n do_v likewise_o chapter_n vii_o 7._o chap._n 7._o consequence_n of_o great_a importance_n follow_v upon_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o church_n government_n &_o inconvenience_n in_o religion_n not_o sufferable_a follow_v from_o the_o contrary_n after_o the_o forerehearsed_a witness_n for_o this_o doctrine_n we_o will_v now_o show_v certain_a clear_a and_o necessary_a consequence_n which_o follow_v from_o the_o same_o also_o some_o true_a and_o great_a inconvenience_n to_o faith_n and_o godly_a life_n and_o to_o civil_a authority_n such_o as_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v which_o yet_o can_v be_v avoid_v where_o man_n profess_v to_o be_v christian_n embrace_v not_o this_o point_n of_o all_o fort_n i_o will_v here_o observe_v eight_o great_a and_o weighty_a consequentes_fw-la hereupon_o first_o this_o be_v receive_v as_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n consequent_a 1._o consequent_a that_o the_o church_n government_n ought_v to_o be_v always_o with_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n it_o follow_v that_o every_o church_n be_v only_o 35._o only_o as_o be_v also_o show_v in_o the_o declaration_n pag._n 12._o 13._o 14._o 35._o one_o ordinary_a congregation_n and_o not_o any_o proper_a diocesan_n or_o provincial_n church_n or_o large_a understanding_n always_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n to_o be_v orderly_o &_o convenient_o take_v and_o practise_v so_o as_o christ_n intend_v that_o 14.40_o that_o 1._o cor._n 14.40_o every_o thing_n shall_v be_v do_v in_o his_o church_n for_o where_o the_o people_n free_a consent_n be_v orderly_a and_o convenient_o practise_v always_o in_o the_o church_n government_n there_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o be_v so_o large_a as_o a_o diocese_n much_o less_o as_o a_o province_n or_o nation_n and_o least_o of_o all_o so_o large_a as_o a_o universal_a church_n see_v all_o this_o people_n can_v not_o possible_o by_o any_o mean_n give_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o the_o ordinary_a church-governement_n neither_o can_v any_o person_n take_v it_o of_o all_o they_o just_o orderly_o and_o convenient_o this_o to_o say_v the_o truth_n be_v not_o possible_a for_o in_o such_o a_o state_n when_o only_o some_o main_a part_n of_o the_o church_n government_n be_v exercise_v it_o will_v be_v always_o with_o much_o defect_n and_o also_o with_o great_a disturbance_n and_o tumult_n oftentimes_o i_o say_v where_o it_o be_v extend_v so_o large_o &_o so_o wide_a &_o with_o concurrence_n of_o such_o multitude_n of_o people_n this_o be_v true_a first_o in_o very_a reason_n and_o withal_o often_o experience_n have_v show_v it_o in_o former_a time_n under_o most_o christian_a &_o careful_a prince_n after_o the_o nicen_n council_n as_o at_o alexandria_n at_o antioch_n at_o rome_n at_o constantinople_n and_o in_o infinite_a place_n mo_z a_o great_a part_n whereof_o the_o evagrius_n the_o euseâ—_n socrat._n zozomeâ—_n theodoret._n evagrius_n story_n do_v record_n in_o which_o church_n action_n though_o do_v with_o to_o inconvenient_a liberty_n of_o the_o people_n yet_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o people_n who_o the_o effect_n of_o those_o business_n reach_v unto_o be_v absent_a and_o so_o want_v their_o right_n &_o those_o which_o be_v present_a be_v full_a of_o confusion_n and_o tumult_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v otherwise_o but_o god_n be_v the_o god_n of_o equity_n of_o order_n and_o of_o peace_n wherefore_o this_o disorder_n can_v nor_o be_v fit_a for_o god_n church_n and_o so_o neither_o can_v a_o diocesan_n circuit_n 26.27_o râ—as_n for_o reform_v p._n 26.27_o or_o large_a in_o which_o this_o disorder_n will_v arise_v necessary_o if_o all_o that_o people_n together_o have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o church-governement_n which_o the_o whole_a
people_n of_o every_o church_n always_o aught_o to_o have_v by_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n ordinance_n as_o 3.4.5_o as_o pag._n 19_o &_o chap._n 3.4.5_o before_o we_o have_v see_v nay_o to_o come_v near_o no_o proper_a and_o perfect_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a ever_o do_v or_o do_v admit_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n universal_o and_o always_o it_o be_v so_o &_o indeed_o it_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o for_o where_o each_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n there_o certain_o each_o congregation_n be_v a_o entire_a and_o independent_a body_n politic_a spiritual_a and_o be_v endue_v with_o power_n in_o itself_o immediate_o under_o christ_n and_o so_o every_o of_o they_o be_v true_a &_o proper_a church_n so_o that_o these_o congregation_n admit_v not_o where_o they_o be_v any_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a neither_o do_v the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a admit_v entire_a and_o independent_a ordinary_a congregation_n which_o as_o i_o say_v have_v their_o free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n they_o be_v indeed_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o as_o 23.25_o as_o reas._o for_o 〈◊〉_d form_n pag._n 23.25_o can_v stand_v together_o possible_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v likewise_o that_o which_o heretofore_o 8â—_n heretofore_o ibid_fw-la pag._n 8â—_n i_o have_v affirm_v and_o so_o do_v still_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n there_o be_v not_o any_o diocesan_n church_n or_o large_a to_o be_v find_v which_o point_n though_o i_o have_v in_o my_o declaration_n prove_v it_o by_o this_o and_o 6._o other_o reason_n yet_o i_o will_v here_o draw_v it_o into_o this_o syllogism_n again_o no_o church_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a every_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n hold_v the_o people_n free_a consent_n in_o their_o ordinary_a government_n with_o just_a and_o decent_a order_n therefore_o no_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v diocesan_n or_o large_a the_o first_o proposition_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o and_o i_o have_v show_v it_o more_o etc._n more_o pag._n 84_o 8â—_n 86._o etc._n etc._n full_o before_o the_o assumption_n or_o 2._o proposition_n be_v at_o large_a prove_v &_o confirm_v in_o those_o place_n which_o be_v note_v in_o the_o margin_n before_o viz._n pag._n 19_o and_o be_v mention_v again_o particular_o pag._n 76._o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o the_o whole_a 3.4_o &_o 5._o chap._n do_v help_n where_o i_o be_o to_o add_v moreover_o that_o this_o conclusion_n be_v true_a not_o only_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o also_o in_o the_o age_n follow_v a_o long_a while_n after_o that_o be_v no_o such_o diocesan_n church_n be_v find_v till_o 420._o year_n after_o christ_n yea_o till_o 680._o and_o more_o be_v pass_v which_o i_o show_v before_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o chap._n as_o also_o i_o touch_v it_o in_o my_o declaration_n pag._n 24.25_o but_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v that_o here_o i_o speak_v precise_o of_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a there_o be_v therefore_o necessary_o a_o distinction_n to_o be_v make_v of_o diocesan_n church_n there_o be_v proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a &_o there_o be_v improper_a the_o proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n free_o to_o consent_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o their_o ordinary_a church_n government_n the_o improper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o large_a be_v where_o although_o there_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o diocesan_n or_o large_a consociation_n of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n in_o spiritual_a government_n under_o one_o general_a presidencie_n or_o superiority_n yet_o the_o ordinary_a congregation_n have_v their_o free_a consent_n at_o least_o they_o have_v nothing_o by_o their_o spiritual_a governor_n impose_v on_o they_o against_o their_o will_n which_o kind_n of_o diocese_n church_n be_v due_o order_v we_o do_v not_o gainsay_v there_o be_v hereof_o also_o two_o kind_n the_o one_o be_v 15.2.3.6.7_o be_v act._n 15.2.3.6.7_o apostolical_a viz._n where_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n consociate_a together_o in_o their_o spiritual_a government_n have_v a_o diocesan_n or_o large_a synod_n or_o presbytery_n over_o they_o for_o their_o better_a direction_n such_o the_o foreign_a reform_a church_n at_o this_o day_n do_v enjoy_v the_o other_o kind_n be_v where_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n so_o consociate_a together_o have_v one_o person_n a_o constant_a precedent_n during_o life_n over_o they_o who_o man_n after_o the_o apostle_n call_v a_o diocesan_n bishop_n &_o some_o a_o metropolitan_a and_o such_o like_a other_o name_n albeit_o of_o these_o there_o be_v without_o question_n divers_a kind_n and_o sort_n some_o exercise_v great_a power_n and_o authority_n some_o less_o that_o be_v the_o ancient_a have_v less_o the_o late_a for_o the_o most_o part_n always_o have_v their_o power_n great_a and_o great_a 1._o ad_fw-la â—vagr_n &_o in_o tit._n 1._o for_o of_o these_o jerome_n say_v most_o true_o both_o that_o their_o matoritie_n over_o the_o presbyter_n of_o congregation_n be_v by_o humane_a ordinance_n and_o also_o that_o it_o come_v in_o &_o grow_v great_a paâ—latim_fw-la by_o little_a and_o little_a that_o be_v by_o degree_n albeit_o i_o say_v therefore_o that_o these_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v of_o divers_a kind_n &_o sort_n yet_o the_o first_o of_o they_o neither_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n neither_o be_v they_o immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n contrariwise_o d._n downame_n affirm_v that_o mark_n the_o evangelist_n ordain_v in_o alexandria_n a_o diocesan_n church_n consist_v of_o many_o ordinary_a congregation_n which_o he_o think_v to_o prove_v by_o some_o word_n of_o 2.15_o of_o euseb_n 2.15_o eusebius_n who_o say_v mark_v first_o 2.124_o first_o d._n down_n def._n 2.124_o constitute_v church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o alexandria_n itself_o as_o he_o false_o translate_v it_o i_o say_v this_o he_o false_o translate_v as_o 3.25.16_o as_o 3.137_o &_o 3.25.16_o doct._n douâ—_n also_o do_v before_o he_o whereupon_o the_o whole_a ground_n of_o their_o error_n do_v rest_n â—â—_o def_n pag._n 17_o â—â—_o which_o their_o falsification_n i_o shall_v by_o god_n help_n show_v plain_o out_o of_o eusebius_n himself_o even_o in_o this_o very_a place_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o here_o signify_v in_o a_o place_n as_o they_o untrue_o imagine_v but_o it_o signifi_v to_o a_o place_n and_o so_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v translate_v in_o latin_a we_o shall_v say_v ad_fw-la alexandriaâ—_n ipsam_fw-la or_o usque_fw-la ad_fw-la that_o be_v to_o alexandria_n or_o unto_o alexandria_n itself_o this_o be_v eusebius_n true_a meaning_n for_o he_o will_v show_v that_o mark_n be_v the_o first_o that_o constitute_v church_n in_o the_o country_n of_o egypt_n and_o withal_o that_o he_o do_v so_o even_o unto_o the_o chief_a city_n thereof_o viz._n alexandria_n and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o he_o mean_v here_o twice_o in_o this_o very_a place_n beside_o eusebius_n use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o same_o construction_n and_o sense_n both_o immediate_o before_o the_o word_n in_o question_n and_o immediate_o after_o before_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o egypt_n or_o unto_o egypt_n after_o thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o rome_n or_o unto_o rome_n not_o in_o rome_n nor_o in_o egypt_n wherefore_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signifi_v likewise_o in_o this_o place_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n see_v it_o run_v in_o one_o context_v together_o with_o the_o former_a and_o be_v all_o one_o manner_n of_o phrase_n beside_o eusebius_n straight_o after_o allege_v philo_n concern_v this_o same_o people_n who_o mark_v convert_v say_v that_o he_o speak_v 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of_o all_o my_o writing_n which_o how_o just_a it_o be_v i_o desire_v all_o fear_v god_n upright_o to_o consider_v five_o i_o pray_v all_o good_a christian_n not_o to_o forget_v nor_o neglect_v the_o due_a consideration_n of_o this_o matter_n but_o to_o weigh_v with_o themselves_o how_o important_a it_o be_v indeed_o which_o i_o have_v somewhat_o large_o open_v before_o in_o the_o etc._n the_o consequent_a 5.6.7_o 8._o pag._n 129._o etc._n etc._n 7._o chapter_n in_o divers_a and_o sundry_a respect_n it_o preserve_v christ_n honour_n &_o ordinance_n and_o cast_v out_o humane_a tradition_n it_o bring_v to_o ourselves_o true_a assurance_n and_o cut_v of_o from_o the_o papist_n and_o other_o all_o pretence_n which_o otherwise_o against_o we_o be_v not_o little_a six_o the_o very_a attestation_n of_o those_o most_o worthy_a divine_n and_o church_n which_o here_o i_o allege_v gather_v out_o of_o their_o public_a record_n shall_v i_o hope_v abundant_o acquit_v both_o myself_o and_o many_o other_o faithful_a servante_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o honest_a and_o sound_n christian_n from_o the_o most_o injurious_a slander_n give_v out_o by_o d._n downame_n and_o other_o adversary_n to_o our_o reproach_n among_o the_o ignorant_a as_o namely_o where_o they_o call_v we_o shismatike_n innovator_n enemy_n of_o unity_n etc._n etc._n when_o man_n shall_v perceive_v that_o we_o be_v indeed_o teach_v these_o assertion_n which_o we_o hold_v not_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o scripture_n out_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la luther_n bucer_n f._n martyr_n viret_n musculus_fw-la bullinger_n gualther_n chemnieius_n vrsinus_n junius_n danaeus_n calvin_n and_o beza_n with_o many_o other_o like_o rare_a man_n of_o god_n all_o consent_v together_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o these_o point_n as_o before_o i_o have_v show_v more_o at_o large_a than_o it_o will_v be_v a_o sufficient_a satisfaction_n to_o they_o on_o our_o behalf_n and_o our_o adversary_n shall_v find_v it_o to_o be_v 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through_o jesus_n christ_n be_v praise_n for_o ever_o and_o ever_o amen_o a_o addition_n that_o the_o abuser_n of_o mai._n beza_n and_o mai._n calvin_n about_o mat._n 18.17_o may_v see_v their_o ill_n do_v i_o think_v good_a to_o set_v down_o here_o some_o more_o of_o their_o testimony_n a_o part_n by_o themselves_o which_o show_v plain_o that_o howsoever_o they_o seem_v sometime_o to_o speak_v not_o so_o wary_o as_o they_o may_v touch_v the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la in_o this_o place_n calling_z it_o the_o church-senat_n or_o presbytery_n yet_o their_o true_a and_o right_a meaning_n indeed_o be_v that_o here_o ecclesia_fw-la signifi_v not_o the_o church_n senat_n only_o &_o mere_o as_o some_o obstinate_o charge_v they_o to_o mean_v they_o do_v here_o in_o this_o word_n comprehend_v also_o the_o people_n and_o their_o power_n of_o free_a consent_n in_o excommunication_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n speak_v of_o by_o christ_n in_o this_o place_n of_o math._n i_o say_v here_o in_o this_o word_n they_o include_v the_o people_n also_o &_o teach_v that_o they_o must_v be_v tell_v and_o that_o they_o must_v be_v hearken_v unto_o in_o a_o degree_n &_o in_o a_o certain_a order_n viz._n mediate_o &_o final_o they_o intend_v not_o that_o christ_n here_o commit_v this_o business_n to_o the_o presbytery_n only_o and_o absolute_o thus_o say_v beza_n upon_o this_o word_n 18.17_o word_n bez._n annotat_fw-la in_o mat._n 18.17_o doceo_fw-la aristocratiam_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la novum_fw-la institutum_fw-la dei_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o democratiae_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la repugnans_fw-la sicut_fw-la nonnull_v ex_fw-la unicâ_fw-la voculâ_fw-la temerè_fw-la arreptâ_fw-la sunt_fw-la arbitrati_fw-la and_o present_o before_o â—e_n say_v neque_fw-la verò_fw-la oligarchiam_fw-la velim_fw-la in_o â—cclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la invehi_fw-la quae_fw-la illam_fw-la tantopere_fw-la deâ—rmavit_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la penitùs_fw-la transformavit_fw-la also_o 16.18_o also_o in_o mat._n 16.18_o vocabulo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la significari_fw-la civium_fw-la â—nventum_fw-la nemo_fw