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A54224 The spirit of truth vindicated, against that of error & envy unseasonably manifested : in a late malicious libel, intituled, The spirit of the Quakers tryed, &c. / by a friend to righteousness and peace, W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1672 (1672) Wing P1375; ESTC R21576 102,800 151

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Difference I mean Doctrinal in this place I don't see It becomes a Man of his Wit and larger Conscience to perceive it who can make and fling dixt for the Alteration or Omission of a word not absolutely necessary for how can we suppose he meant those good Gentiles that became a Law unto themselves to have thoughts different from their Conscience so far as concerned Evil or Good and the Peace or Trouble that followed the Doing of the one or the committing of the other For to what did their Conscience bear them Witness if not to their Doing Well or Ill and consequently to acquit or accuse Therefore their Conscience did bear Witness to the Accusing or Excusing as well as their Thoughts for that their Thoughts and Opinion of one anothers Innocency or Guilt are squared by the Witness that their Conscience did give the place strongly implies In short they could not make that Judgment of one another without a certain Knowledge of the same thing in themselves and they must have received that only by the Testimony of their own Conscience which is no more but this the Judgment of a man concerning his own good or ill State by the In-shining and Discoveries of God's Holy Light and this the Gentiles had in measure and our Adversary granteth it as well as his Eminent Preacher pag. 40. Eighthly G. F. sayes in answer to the Priest that denyed him to be perfect who bridled his Tongue which is contrary to the Apostle James who saith he is which our Adversary calls belying the Apostle who sayes If any man offend not in word the same is perfect And what Difference is there now one sayes He that bridles or rules the Tongue and the other saith He that offends not in Word is the perfect man unless a mans Tongue can be said to be bridled or ruled when it offends which cannot be supposed by any but Persons of this mans Ignorance In short Not to offend in word or bridle that which would utter it is one and the same thing for that which bridles the Tongue bridles the Body which is the perfect man that offends not in word Ninthly G. F. sayes That God works all in us and for us for which he reflects upon him as at other times saying he knows no such place but it is strange that he never heard or read And there are diversities of Operations but it is the same God which worketh all in all according to the Power that worketh in us for it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do Now unless when God works all in all c. we are to exempt his working in us and so give the Scripture the Lye or if workt in us yet not for us which is to give our own Understanding the Lye it will follow and doth follow That God who worketh all in all according to his Power in us both to Will and to Do does work it both in us and for us But Oh the Vanity of this poor man that thinks by these Paper Pellets his Malice casts at us either to Wound us in our selves or in the minds of Sober People Tenthly But he thinks he has done G. F's business for him now where bringing him in saying through the Power of God the Gospel again the Gospel is the Power of God he thus adventures to correct him The Apostle saith I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the Power of God unto Salvation c. Now where to find out that Difference which this Quick-sighted Man abuses G. F. for saying it proceeds from the same bitter Root in him that perverts the sence of Scripture is past my skill for if the Gospel be God's Power then God's Power is the Gospel In one of the Passages it is as he would have it which may show that G. F. meant by the other Transposition of the word No new Sence or Doctrine Gross Folly Incharity and Carping Eleaventhly But he stiffly charges him with miscitation in this Passage G. F. And so deny Christ the Lord that bought them Peter saith only Denying the Lord that bought them Which sayes he may as well agree to God the Father as Christ the Son We may guess at his Meaning without an Interpretation But must Christ be Lord and not Lord at every turn when this presumptious Person will If the fore-going Chapter be considered it will appear That Christ is that Lord that some should deny after they had made Profession of Him In short If a man's believing Christ to be that Lord must conclude him an Impostor c. who is true let all the World read and observe of what Ungodly Stuff and very Trash his Libel doth consist Twelfthly The Scripture saith our Adversary and his own runs thus He that believeth on Christ out of his Belly shall flow Rivers of Living Water where His Belly is plainly spoken of Him that believeth But G. F. applies it to the Light Christ out of whose Belly slowed Rivers of Living Water the Light the Light must be Magnified by G. F. To which I shall only say That it is no improper sence at all for no man's Belly can be filled but from His therefore He is the Fountain of Living Water Himself from whose Belly ours come to be filled Besides If a Scripture will admit of two distinct sences without Contradiction they may be used in both those sences upon occasion So Christ the Light whom we will Magnifie above our Adversary's Darkness is that Belly and Fountain and such as believe in Him shall have their Bellies filled with the Rivers of Living Water that come from Him He is the Fountain that is set open for Judah and Jerusalem and the River that makes glad the City of God Thirteenth G. F. The Church is the Pillar and Ground of Truth without Spot or Wrinkle or Blemish or any such thing Our Adversary thus And the Apostle saith That He might present it unto Himself a glorious Church not having Spot or Wrinkle or any such thing He saith that might and should not that it is but this is the old Devilish Distinction of Sin-Pleasers that would never have the Church Compient Two things follow hence First A Disbelief of the Perfection of the present Mystical Church by which Christ is rendred the Head of a spotted Body Secondly That he is himself in a spotted and wrinckled Condition and every such thing and therefore an unfit Person to maintain the Faith of the true unspotted Church of Christ Fourteenth G. F. True Christians are Flesh of His Flesh and Bone of His Bone But the Apostle sayes our Adversary has it thus For we are Members of his Body of his Flesh and of his Bones The Fault is this that he left out For we are Members hoping that it sufficiently proves Christ to be in Heaven absent from his Church not considering that a Body can be no more without its
Reader dost thou not think this a New Way of proving a Man an Impostor Lyar False Prophet and what not But I dare tell him that he will not grow over-Rich with the Spoils he is like to gain by such Conquests though his Fancy be strong which is the Disease that follows him Fourthly However he is resolved to proceed that what each Cavil wants of Strength in it self shall be supply'd by the l●●d Suffrage of their Number G. F. sayes And the Angel said unto them that went to the Grave without Why seek ye the Living among the Dead He is risen which our Adversary corrects thus Now the Angels words runs thus Why seek ye the Living among the Dead He is not here but is risen So G. F. leaves out He is not here out of the middle of the Citation for that would have overthrown his Opinion of Christ within I still intreat the Reader to observe what Slight Grounds he hath to build his infamous Charge upon But what will not Envy do but he greatly errs if he thinks that the putting in or leaving out of those Words doth overthrow our Hearty Belief of Christ's manifesting of Himself within For what if the Angel chiefly intended the Resurrection of that Visible Body which was slain a few dayes before will it therefore follow that the place may not also be very aptly used to express the Mystical Resurrection of the Divine Life which for many Ages hath as well by Jews as Pilates Circumcision as Vncircumcision Professors as Prophane been crucified laid as in a Grave and a Stone rowl'd over it yea and guarded too by Bands of Souldiers lest that which is so destructive of the Pride Glory Pleasures and Religions of this World should rise again to testifie against them all which has been the Cause why Truth hath ever met with rugged entertainment from the men of the World 〈◊〉 it is evident that the Angel's Reproof imply'd an Instru●●●n of them concerning what Faith they ought to have had in the Promise of his Resurrection which did direct them to an inward Power whereby they might have had a more Heavenly Sense of a Resurrection and Life in themselves far more beneficial to them then coming thither in an affectionate haste after his Visible Appearance which it was expedient for them that it should be with-drawn Fifthly G. F. He is risen and the Saints sits with Him in Heavenly Places Our Adversary we must take no notice of the Failure in Syntax for that 's frequent Now Paul sayes Ephes 2. 6. And made us sit together in Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus Now there may be a different Sense of Sitting with Christ and Sitting in Him For the People of a State may be said to sit in their Ambassadour when he is seated but scarcely with him I answer First he wrongs G. F. in saying he has abused the Scripture by putting with for in since there is no Difference at all in what he would Fantastically have to be one for if the People are in the Ambassadour and the Ambassadour sit then the People sit or I don't understand Words for who can the Ambassadour represent but the People If then the Ambassadour sits certainly the People sit representatively Now though the Similitude be lame yet it plainly refutes him as to the use for which he brought it I conclude therefore that such as sit in the Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus can't be said to stand with Him if He be there seated and consequently they sit with him suitable to that expression of his Ye are they which have continued with me in my Temptations and I appoint unto you a Kingdom as my Father has appointed unto me that ye may eat and drink at my Table in my Kingdom and sit on Thrones judging the twelve Tribes of Israel Secondly He tells us a plain Lye for finding Fault with G. F's Syntax viz. Sits for Sit sayes he that he must take no notice of that which at the same time he flings in his Dish and almost continually 〈◊〉 with such Disdain of him as if he were the only Master of 〈◊〉 ●●ntences Doctor of the Chair or Grand Critick of the Age who to speak Truth shews himself a Shollar much at the same Rate and by the same Figure that Pedlars are call'd Merchants Sixthly But now he thinks he has enough against G. F. and manages it not with a little Triumph And so to the Word Christ Jesus Him by whom the World was made before it was made This he thinks stabs our Cause to the very Heart and proves that good Man an Impostor Lyar False Prophet Deceitful Chapman and what else you will without controle But let not his frothy Spirit boast so much saying he despairs of Information c. since if so i● was foolishly done of him to solicit for an Answer and would not have been much wiser in us to have gratified him if a Benefit to others had not invited us to it But is there no allowance to be had for Curt Expressions Escapes of the Pen Oversight in Compositors and Errors in the Press Doth he deal candidly or as he would be dealt by But suppose the worst that may be for we would not indebt our selves to his Favour can we make no Sense of it Suppose a Comma at the first made and read it thus Christ Jesus Him by whom the World was made before it was made where and being understood explaineth the Sense was maketh it more clear And how frequent are such Words nay of more moment left to be understood Read the Scriptures and how many Words are there that have none in the Original and read but the other Words once without them and G. F's Expression will not seem absurd or paradoxal Besides it is allow'd by all if the Transposing of the Words will make out the Sense intended that it removes of right the Exception Now read the Words thus And so to the Word Christ Jesus before the World was made Him by whom it was made and then let our Adversary quarrel his fill However we have one Way of reading these Words yet and that by Figure he hath taught us viz. Christ Jesus Him by whom the World was made in Decree before it was actually made for so he sayes Christ had of his Fathers Glory before the World began not actually but by Decree only which if it seem Ridiculous I hope he may have a better understanding both of himself and the place But to proceed Seventhly G. F. answering a Priest that denies Conscience can justifie sayes which is contrary to plain Scripture where the Apostle saith their Consciences either accusing or excusing But hear our peevish Adversary who would think that G. F. should have either so little Wit or Conscience as to write in this manner For the Scripture words are these their Consciences also bearing witness and their thoughts the mean while accusing or excusing one another The
Head then Flesh nay it can better disp●nse with the loss of much Flesh and many Bones then the Head for if that be absent the Body quickly dyes Christ is the Head Root and Life of his Church without which she can never live one Comfortable Day Besides it contradicts positive Scripture I will not leave you Comfortless I will come to you I will be with you to the End of the World because I live you live also He that is with you shall be in you c. Fifteenth G. F. and the Apostle said The deep Things of God was revealed by the Spirit of God But the Apostle saith our Adversary speaketh not so But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit for the Spirit searcheth all things yea the deep Things of God Let all Sober People judge whether this man does not groundlesly cavil at us For if God reveals his deep Things by his Spirit then does the Spirit give unto us the Revelation of the deep Things of God Could he blush he might be ashamed to shew himself such a frivolous Busi-body Sixteenth G. F. And so who is in Christ is a New Creature old things pass away Our Adversary The Apostle thus Therefore if any be in Christ he is a New Creature old things are passed away behold all things are become New 2 Cor. 15. 17. The Apostle speaks of the New Creation as done G. F. as a thing doing but with great Patience for a little would be tired I Answer Where old things are done away and all things become new there the New Creation is done But in such as he that believes the Church of Christ to be spotted wrinkled c all things are far from being made new since old things are not past away and in such there can be no New Creation as yet Seventeenth G. F. For it is the savour of Death to the Death and Life to the Life The Apostle saith our Adversary thus To the one the savour of Death unto Death to the other the savour of Life unto Life Thus that he may be true to his Way he undertakes the Confutation of G. F. and Proof of him to be an Impostor the Difference betwixt the Apostle's saying and G. F's citation is imputting the before Death and Life which is the same in Sence and Intention But again Eighteenth The Scripture quoted by our Adversary thus Of this sort are they which CREEP into Houses and lead captive silly Women laden with Sins and led away with divers Lusts ever learning but never able to come to the Knowledge of the Truth But G. F saith Of such as have got the words c. who are Reprohates concerning the Faith which crept into Houses before the Apostles decease which have kept alwayes learning and never able to come to the Knowledge of the Truth 〈◊〉 led away with divers Lusts Very well and what 's the Error or Perversion here Why the Apostle does not attribute to these False Teachers that they kept People alwayes learning but they led captive such as were so And what then therefore is it not true in the sence in which G. F. quotes it What wrong is there done to the Text or such Teachers either For who knows not that false Teachers do keep People alwayes learning but never bring them to the Knowledge of the Truth And certainly they cannot be false Teachers that are not led away of divers Lusts therefore they are both led away of divers Lusts and they lead others too But it is worth our notice That he who has so frequently and with such Derision reflected upon G. F's Syntax and false English is so far from being unblamable himself as to make that Elegant Apostle guilty for in the Epistle it is They which Creep in his Quotation They which CREEPS But we delight not to spend our time so unprofitably such are his Contests about the Hebrew Greek and Latine being set over Christ's Head by his Crucifiers for he would have it written as said in the Scriptures and G. F. sayes Set atop of Christ that is over His Head and true it is what he observes That all Languages have crucified Him and those that have been most Learned have been furthest from the Kingdom that is resembled to little Children I thank thee O Father Lord of Heaven and Earth that thou hast hid these things from the Wife and Prudent and revealed them unto Babes Nineteenth G. F. sayes the Gospel is preached in every Creature Our Adversary sayes was preacht to every Ceature and both are true for in time past it Was and now I hope he will not deny but it Is. In every Creature or To every Creature may be the same For when the Gospel of Repentance and Faith in God are by his Light and Spirit secretly revealed and declared in eveey Heart doubtless 't is also to the Heart as well as in it And though there may be outward Preaching of the Gospel yet that which is Effectual comes from the Spirit and Power of the Gospel and reacheth into the Innermost Parts and the same Spirit gives there the true Discerning and Sense and makes the Effectual Application thereof so that his Carping there is like all the rest Malicious and Troublesom But he hath something to the same Purpose XX. Again G. F. If Christ be not within People they are Reprobates The Apostle and Translators say Know you not your own selves that Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates 2 Cor. 15. 5. as if in you could admit of no other Sense but within you Let us see if the Words of Christ will alwayes admit that Sense Mat. 20. 26 27. But it shall not be so within you but whosoever will be Great within you let him be your Minister c. thus far our Adversary But certainly the Man can't think that because 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 may sometimes signifie among that therefore in all cases it must do so for let us read the verse cited so Know you not your own selves that Christ Jesus is among you except ye be Reprobates This in his Opinion of Christ's Residence would be most false Besides if it should be read within you it might be understood thus within your Precinct Company or Society and the Sense very good still However it shews he hath but little to do who shall employ his time in correcting within you for in you since whatever is in any thing is within that in which it is or else I know nothing But he tells us that G. F. is guilty of the like fault in relation to John 2. 27. where the Apostle speaketh of the Anointing which abides in you but he thus the Apostles brought the Saints to the Anointing within them To which I say that He is Guilty of the like Fault of Fooling as before For a School-Boy would be whipt for so much Ignorance and Ill-spent Time He might have learn't