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A42315 The old Roman Catholik, as at first he was taught by Paul, in opposition to the new Roman Catholick, as of latter he is taught by the Pope the one being apostolicall, the other apostaticall : derived and proven only out of the Epistle of Paul to the Romanes : whereunto is added a clear probation that the same also was the doctrine of the primitive bishops of Rome ... discovering to all clearly the apostasie of that church from the ancient Roman fayth and puritie thereof to the noveltie of gross heresie and idolatrie, and sufficient to convince, if not convert, any papist that is not wilfully obdured / by W. Guild. Guild, William, 1586-1657. 1649 (1649) Wing G2210; ESTC R30326 38,314 116

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not but continue by reason of her infallibilitie and of her heads especially But on the contrary hee reasoneth from the more to the less that if this befell the Iewish Church to fall away from the Trueth and be cut off being the naturall branch much more may this befall Rome being the wyld oliue only as indeed de facto it hath proved so 7. That separation from an hereticall church as Rome is no scisme but a commanded duetie ROM. 16. 17. Now I beseech you brethren mark them who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which yee haue receaved and avoyd them Whence it followeth That if according to the Apostles command wee should avoyd them who do contrary to the Apostles doctrine and separate our selues from them as it is sayd of Mysticall Babylon come out of her my people That therefore this avoyding of such and separation from them is no schism but obedience to Divyne Precept and duetie commanded Wherefore sayeth Ambrose If any Church reject the Fayth and retayn not the foundamentall poynts of Apostolick Doctrine shee is altogether to be forsaken CHAP. III. Of the Head of the Church SECTION 1. That CHRIST IESUS allanerly is the only Head of the Church and Husband thereof in lyke manner and no Pope at all ROM. 12. 5. So we being many are one body in CHRIST and every one members one of another Whence it followeth That if all are but Fellow-members only of CHRISTS mysticall body Therefore that none is head of that body but Himself allanerly Wherefore sayth one of their Popes Gregorie the first It is satanicall pryde by an arrogant title of head so to subject all CHRISTS Members to one man which cohereth to one head CHRIST IESUS allanerlie And agayn sayth th' Apostle Rom. 7. 4. Wherefore my brethren ye also are become dead to the law by the body of CHRIST that ye should be married to another even to Him who is raysed from the dead Whence it followeth That if we be dead to the law that we should be married to CHRIST therefore that CHRIST only is the Husband of His Church as the same Apostle showeth Ephes. 5. 23. Whrefore sayth Bernard to Pope Eugenius call not CHRISTS beloved Spouse thyne but His Spouse thou challenging nothing as proper to thee over her 2. That the Pope as Bishop of Rome is not Peters Successour and so thereby can neither claym infallibilitie nor the power of the keyes ROM. 11. 13. For I speak to you Gentiles in as much as I am the Apostle of the Gentiles I magnifie my office Whence we reason thus If Paull was properly the Apostle of the Gentiles or vncircumcision as Peter was of the Iewes and circumcision as elss where he sayeth Gal. 2. 7. When they saw that the Gospell of the vncircumcision was committed vnto me sayeth Paull as the Gospell of circumcision was committed to Peter Hence I say it will clearly follow That Rome the Bishop thereof was within Pauls Charge and that can nowyse claym to be Peters successour there or any infallibilitie by his chair nor power of the keyes as they alleadge given to him only But rather that he is Pauls successour as indeed he is in his first condition to wit Before his conversion when he was a cruell persecuter of the Church of CHRIST Wherefore the very Rhemists themselues speak so on this place It is playn by this place and others say they that to them to wit Peter and Paull as the most renowned Apostles the charge of all nations was given as divyded into two parts that is Iewes and Gentiles 3. That the Pope ought to bee subject to the Civill Magistrate without exemption and all his inferiour Clergie ROM. 13. 1. 2. Let every Soull be subject to the higher powers c. Whence it followeth If every soull ought to be subject to the higher powrs to wit Magistracie as the Apostle there showeth Therefore also the Pope and his inferiour Clergie Wherefore thus sayeth Chrysostom on this same Text Let every soull bee subject to the higher powers altho thou bee an Apostle sayeth he altho an Evangelist altho a Prophet or who-so-ever thou bee For Pietie or Religion subverteth not this subjection Therefore also thus concludeth Bernard from this Universalitie who-so-ever would exempt any sayeth hee he seeketh to deceaue CHAP. IV. Of the Churches right worship SECTION 1. That GOD only is to bee invocated and neither Saynct nor Angell ROM. 10. 14. How shall they call on Him in whom they haue not believed But to subsume We must belieue only in GOD as these Scriptures teach vs Iohn 14. 1. Ior. 17. 5. Therefore it followeth That we must incall vpon GOD only Hence it is That their own Master of Sentences Lombard on this Text * sayth We belieue Peter and Paull sayeth he but not in Peter nor Paull Wherefore if wee may not belieue in them wee conclude rightly Therefore wee may not incall vpon them Agayn Rom. 8. 15. For yee haue not receaved the spirit of bondage agayn to fear sayeth the Apostle but yee haue receaved the spirit of adoption whereby wee cry Abba Father Where we see That being GODS adopted children wee are exhorted not to fear as if wee were going only before a king or judge but to go to Him as a loving Father with confidence to be heard as our Saviour showeth vs and that His Spirit in our hearts teacheth vs to cry or incall vpon Him as a Father and vpon none other Agayn Rom. 8. 27. He that searcheth the heart knoweth the mynd of the spirit sayeth the Apostle Whence it followeth That He must be the searcher of the heart and know the sinceritie of Prayer on whom wee must incall seeing oftentymes neither are our distresses visible nor our prayers vocall But so it is That to search the heart is GODS only prerogatiue as we haue it 2. Chron. 6. 30. Therefore it followeth That GOD only is to bee incalled vpon and neither Saynct nor Angell Wherefore sayeth Augustine speaking of the practise of the Church in his tyme the names of the Sayncts or Martyrs are in their own order sayeth hee rehearsed amongst vs but not invocated by vs 2. That in Heaven CHRIST only is our Mediatour or Intercessour for vs ROM. 8. 34. It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD and maketh intercession for vs Whence it followeth Seing that He who maketh intercession for vs is He that died for vs and is risen agayn and now sitteth at the Right Hand of GOD and that none hath done this but CHRIST only for vs Therefore That CHRIST only is our intercessour which more expressly the same Apostle elss where showeth saying That as there is but one GOD and not many So also there is but one Mediatour between GOD and Man sayeth hee even the Man CHRIST IESUS And therefore not many For as the word One GOD
they call the Virtuall Church de facto hath erred Ergo hee and the Church following him may erre The Antecedent is proven by the testimonie of many famous Romanists themselues as Nilus Gerson Almain Alfonsus à Castro and which is to be noted Pope Adrian himself as Bellarmine acknowledgeth lib. 4. de Pontif. Rom. c. 2. The lyke doeth Cardinall Cusanus witness Ambrosius Catharinus Lyra Erasmus and the Councell of Basill who in their 34. Session deposed Eugenius the fourth as hereticall So did the sixt Generall Councell of Constantinople condemne Pope Honorius as a Monothelite as Bellarmin confesseth lib. 4. de Pont. c. 11. That Pope Liberius also was an Arrian and Pope Anastasius an Nestorian no man will doubt sayeth Alfonsus à Castro who hath read histories also that Vigilius was an Eutychian that Zepherin was a Montanist and that Iohn the 23 denyed the Resurrection is evident by most famous Histories of their own witnessing 2. Lykewyse to come to poynts of Doctrine wherein by their own confession they haue erred and departed from the Ancient Fayth I will instance first the Roman Churches prohibition of the people to reade the holy Scriptures And if it be asked whether in this poynt shee hath erred and departed from the fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church Their own Bishop Claudius Espencaeus on Titus 2. will tell them saying It is manyfest by the doctrine of the Apostle Col. 3. 4. And by the practise of the Church sayeth hee that of old the vse of the Scriptures was permitted to the people Here then a confessed departure from the Ancient Fayth 3. The Roman Church hath decreed That all publick Prayers and Worship bee in a tongue vnknown to the people And if it bee asked Whether herein shee hath erred and departed from the Ancient Fayth Their own Cardinall Cajetan will tell them saying By the doctrine of Saynct Paull it is to bee held that it is farre better for the edifying of the Church that the publick Prayers which are vttered in the hearing of the people bee sayd in a language that is common and known both to Clergie and people And that this was lykewyse the practise of the Primitiue Church This both Lyra and Aquinas testifieth Here then agayn a confessed departure from the Ancient Fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church 4. The present Roman Church teacheth Invocation of Sayncts And if it be asked Whether in this they hold the Ancient Fayth taught by the Apostles or hath departed therefra Their own Eckius Luthers great Antagonist will tell them saying Besydes that we haue nothing hereof in the Old Testament In the New lykewyse the Apostles nor Evangelists neither taught by word sayeth hee nor left any such thing by writ that the Sayncts departed should be invocated nor would the holy Ghost by whose inspiration they spake suffer them so to do sayeth he and yet as Paull testifieth they taught the whole Councell of GOD Whence it followeth that the Invocation of Sayncts is no part thereof And consequently a departure from the Ancient Catholick and Apostolicall Fayth and practise Iustly accursed by GOD For if an Angell from Heaven sayeth the Apostle teach any thing besyde that which wee haue preached vnto you let him bee accursed 5. The Church of Rome now teacheth That the people should not participate of the consecrated cup in the Communion And if it be asked If herein they follow CHRISTS Institution or the practise of the Primitiue Church Not only doeth their own Lyra and Aquinas ingenuously confess That shee hath departed therefra But also the whole Councell of Constance holden anno 1414. Sess. 13. confesseth clearly That CHRIST indeed instituted this Venerable Sacrament in both kynds of bread and wyne and gaue it so to His Disciples As also that in the Primitiue Church say they the same was receaved by the Faythfull in both kynds And yet for certayn causes the Roman Church hath ordayned the contrary Here then a clear confession of a gross departing from the Ancient Fayth and practise of the Primitiue Church 6. The present Roman Church teacheth Transsubstantiation of the bread into the Body of CHRIST in the Sacrament of the LORDS SUPPER And if it bee asked If this bee the Ancient Catholick and Apostolick Fayth 1. The Apostle 1. Cor. 11. 26. will teach them the contrary affirming That after Consecration the bread remayneth in substance Even when it is eaten And if next to the Apostle they will heare one of their most ancient Popes whom they say cannot erre Gelasius will tell them playnly saying tho the Sacrament bee a divyne thing becauss therein wee receaue the body and blood of CHRIST yet the substance and nature of the bread and wyne ceasseth not still to remayn sayeth hee And as for the Words of CHRIST whereby they would proue Transsubstantiation if they will hear the exposition of them out of their Popes Canon Law it will tell them saying The Heavenly Sacrament which truely REPRESENTETH CHRISTS FLESH is called CHRISTS BODIE but improperlie So that in this mayn poynt we see they haue departed from the Ancient Fayth which was taught by the Apostle and believed by their own ancient Popes and Canonists 7. The present Romane Church teacheth That after this lyf for soules of them that are saved there is a fyre of Purgatorie And if it bee asked If this was the Ancient Fayth of the Catholick Church Their own Fisher Bishop of Rochester will tell them That in the Western or Roman Church it is but Sero cognitum or lately only known And as for the Eastern or Grecian Church even vnto this day sayeth hee they never did belieue Purgatorie Here then a clear confession that the present Roman Church holdeth not the Ancient Fayth of the Catholick Church Eastern nor Western but hath swerved therefra 8. And if by farder witnessing they would be informed of the defection of the Church of Rome by Fathers others a matter indeed wherein they are lyke to Thomas hard of belief let Ierom testifie what progress it had made even in his tyme which was a mystery of Iniquity working even in Pauls dayes who about the four hundreth year of CHRIST wryting to Paulinus sayeth thus When I was in Babylon calling Rome so and lived an inhabitant of that Purple Whore I desyred as it were to prattle somewhat of the holy Ghost and to dedicate my work to the Bishop of that Citie to wit Damasus and behold the Assembly of the Pharisees there cryed me down amongst whom there was not any learned Scrybe but the whole faction of ignorance conspyred agaynst mee as if I had proclaymed some Doctrinall Warre agaynst them c. Which words even vnto admiration calling Rome Babylon the Scarlet Whore The Clergie whereof were a faction of blynd Pharisees who cryed downe all Godly and Learned Men for advancing themselues only and their own credit would seem
of David according to the flesh Whence it followeth If CHRISTS Body or flesh is made only once of the seed of David that it is absurd therefore and contrary to Scripture that His body or flesh is only made by Transsubstantiation of the seed of wheat or substance of bread in the holy Sacrament and that this Transsubstantiation is as it were CHRISTS second birth or begetting as the late Iesuits affirm For so sayeth Cornelius à lapide on Isai 7. 14. By the words of Consecration as the bread is truely really transsubstantiate sayth hee so CHRIST is brought forth and as it were begotten vpon the Altar as powerfully and effectually as if CHRIST were not as yet incarnate Therefore sayeth hee The Priest is as the Virgin that bare Him the Altar is the Manger and the little Emmanuell which hee beareth is CHRIST brought forth vnder the little hostie A most monstrous and blasphemous speach whereby they will haue CHRIST not once but daylie to bee born not of the substance of the Virgin but of the substance of bread and His body not once but daylie also to bee broken and His blood shed in their idolatrous Mass. Whereas on the contrary agreeable to Scripture sayeth Theodoret and with him Pope Gelasius The mysticall signs departeth not from their own nature but remayn sayeth hee in their former substance form and figure and may bee seen and touched as they were before Rom. 8. 34. Who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD c. And as the Apostle teacheth Act. 3. 21. Whom the Heavens must contayn till the last day or restitution of all things If CHRISTS Body then wherein Hee died and rose agayn sitteth now at the Right Hand of GOD glorified in the Heavens till Hee come agayn from thence at the Last Day It followeth therefore that the Body of CHRIST is not by transsubstantiation every-where on earth between the Priests fingers in the Mass or between the teeth of the people to bee chewed in the Sacrament as is affirmed in the Popes Decretall * Wherefore when Hee was on earth Hee was not then in Heaven sayeth Vigilius and with him Fulgentius and now being in Heaven Hee is not to bee had on earth 4. That the Mass is not Propitiarie Sacrifice ROM. 6. 9. 10. Knowing that CHRIST being raysed from the dead dieth no more death hath no more dominion over Him for in that Hee died Hee died to sinne once But in that Hee liveth Hee liveth vnto GOD Seeing then that CHRIST died but once and dieth no more and that this His death was that onlie Propitiatorie Sacrifice once for ever offered on the Cross never to bee reiterated as wee are clearly taught Hbr. 9. 25. and 10. 14. Therefore it followeth That there is no Propitiatorie Sacrifice offered vp in the Mass but only a commemoration in the Sacrament of CHRISTS Death and Passion Wherefore sayeth Eusebius and with him Ambrose After that CHRIST had offered vp that admirable and excellent Sacrifice to His Father for the Salvation of all Hee instituted sayeth hee that wee should still offer vp the Rememberance of that Benefit in place of a Sacrifice to GOD But not as any Propitiatorie Sacrifice properly it selff CHAP. VII Of PURGATORIE That there is no such Place whether the Souls of the Godly go after this lyff ROM. 8. 1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in CHRIST IESUS If therefore there bee no condemnation at all then after death when they are pronounced presentlie blessed and resteth from their labours they are not condemned to any Hellish and Tormenting Purgatorie Agayn Rom. 8. 33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of GODS Elect It is GOD that justifieth And who is hee that condemneth It is CHRIST that died yea rather that is risen agayn who is even at the Right Hand of GOD and maketh intercession for vs Remark then That agaynst any thing that may bee layed to the charge of the Elect for which they may bee condemned after this lyff to any such Hellish Place or Punishment as Purgatorie there are three powerfull thinges opposed 1. GODS justifying them by a full and free Remission of all their sinnes what-so-ever and consequently from any such Hellish Punishment of them here-after 2. CHRISTS Death or Blood-shed which as Iohn testifieth purgeth vs from all Sinne and 3. CHRISTS Intercession in the Heavens which is sufficientlie powerfull to saue the Souls of His Elect after this lyf from any such fyrie Torment Wherefore sayeth Iustin Martyr After the departure of the Soull from the bodie presently is made a distinction between the good and the bad For they are carried to the Places whereof they are worthie The Souls of the Godly by the Angels being carried to Paradise where the company and sight of Angels and Archangels is as also the sight of CHRIST our SAVIOUR according to these words whill wee are absent from the body we are present with the Lord But the souls of the wicked sayeth hee are carried to Hell FINIS The Doctrine of the Primitiue Bishops of Rome whill the Faithful City became not an Harlor and her Pastours Impostours And especially the Doctrine of GREGORIE the first who lived fyue hundreth years after CHRIST is called by them for his Vertue and Learning GREGORIE THE GREAT CHAP. I. Of Scripture And 1. That the Maccabees and other Apocrypha books are not Canonicall GREGORIE speaking of the Probation of a poynt out of the Maccabees sayeth thus De qua nō inordinate agimus si ex libris etsi non canonicis sed tamen ad aedificationem Ecclesiae editis testimonium proferamus That is Of which matter wee do not disorderlie if we bring a testimonie out of these books which albeit they are not canonicall yet are set forth for the edifying of the Church And that this was the judgement and fayth of the whole Western Christian Church before and at that tyme Ierom declareth saying Hos libros legit quidem Ecclesia sed inter canonicas scripturas non recipit That is The Church indeed readeth these bookes but receaveth them not amongst Canonicall Scriptures 2. That the Scriptures without doctrinall Traditions are all sufficient for instruction of Fayth and Manners WHerein thus sayeth Gregorie In hoc volumine Omnia quae crudiunt Cuncta quae aedificant continentur That is In this Book of Scripture all things that are for instruction and all things that are for edification are contayned But as for dogmaticall traditions S●pè heretici sayeth hee dum sua student perversa astruere ea proferunt quae in sacrorum librorum paginis non continentur That is Often tymes Hereticks whyle as they endeavour to build vp their perverss doctrines they produce thinges which in the Books of Sacred Scripture are no wyse contayned 3.
That the Scripture is playn in all things necessarie to Salvation And therefore is to be read by the people IN which poynt thus sayeth Gregorie Scriptura quasi quidam fluvius est planus altus in quo ag●us ambulet ●liphas natet That is The Scripture is as it were a river both eb and deep wherein a Lamb may wade and an Elephant swim Which thing moved also Augustine to say In these places sayeth hee which are clearly set down in Scripture are all these things to bee found which contayn both Fayth and Manners Lib. 2. de doctrina Christiana cap. 9. And agayn For reading of Scripture sayeth Gregorie Quid est autem scriptura sacra nisi Epistola Omnipotentis DEI ad creaturum suam That is What is the Holy Scripture then but the Epistle of the Omnipotent GOD sent vnto His creature Whence it followeth That therefore His creature should reade the same CHAP. IJ. Of the Church And 1. That the Rock spoken of MATH 16. 18. whereon CHRIST sayeth Hee will build His Church and the Popes would build their Infallibilitie is not Peter nor his successours but CHRIST only FOR thus sayeth Gregorie Ipse enim est Petra à qua Petrus nomen accepit super quam se aedificaturum Ecclesiam dixit That is For Hee Himselff is that Rock from which Peter receaved his name and vpon which hee sayd that hee would build his Church And agayn In sacriloquio sayeth hee quando in singulari numero fundamentum dicitur nullus alius nisi CHRISTUS designatur That is In Holie Scripture when in the singular number a foundation is spoken of none other is thereby to be vnderstood but CHRIST alone 2. That the True Catholick Church spoken of in the Belieff and that can not erre fundamentally totally is only the Elect And so no one particular visible Church only as Rome WHereanent sayth Gregorie Christus itaque cum tota sua Ecclesia sive quae adhuc versatur in terris sive quae ●um co regnat in coelis vna persona est sicut est vna anima quae diversa corporis membr● virificat ita totam simul Ecclesiam vnus Spiritus Sanctus vegetat illustrat That is CHRIST therefore with His whole Church whether it bee that part thereof that is on earth or that part which raygneth with Him in the Heavens is but one person and as it is but one soull that quickeneth the diverss members of the bodie Even so it is but one Holy Spirit which quickeneth and illuminateth the whole Church And a little after De hoc spiritu non vivit haereticus non vivit schismaticus That is And by this spirit neither doeth the Heretick nor Schismatick liue And agayn Intra has mensuras sunt omnes electi extra has sunt omnes reprobi etiamsi intra fidei limitem esse videantur That is Within these bounds are all the Elect and within the same are all the reprobate albeit they seem to be within the limits of believers 3. That no man on earth is Universal Bishop of the Catholick Church as the Pope claymeth nor anywyse Head thereof NO man battereth more this loftie Babell of Papall Supremacie more than Gregorie For 1. Hee calleth this name of Universall Bishop in it selff which the Patriarch of Constantinople would haue vsurped Novum prophanum vocabulum contra statuta Evangelica Canonum Decreta Lib. 4. Epist. 32. That is A new and prophane style agaynst the Precepts of the Gospell and Canons of Councells Also Superbum vocabulum A prowd tytle and a perverss Epist. 34. Lykewyse Diabolica praesumptio A divelish presumption Epist. 36. nomen blasphemiae Epist. 32. And a name of Blasphemie according to that of Revel. 17. 3. And last Scelestum vocabulum A most wicked tytle and a playn Departure from the Fayth For so hee sayeth Epist. 39. In isto enim scelesto vocaebulo consentire nihil aliud est quam fidem perdere That is To consent to this most wicked style is no other thing than to lose the Fayth 2. Hee showeth That none who was ever Bishops of Rome his Predecessours would haue any such style And 1. Peter Neminem-se vnquam vniversalem vocare voluit sayeth hee Epist. 38. That is Hee would not haue any ever to call him Universall And thereafter Nullus vnquam predecessorum meorum hoc tam prophano vocabulo vti consensit Epist. 36. That is None ever of my predecessours would consent to vse so prophane a title * And for his own practise when Eulegius Bishop of Alexandria had given him this style in a letter he sayeth Ecce in Praefatione Epistolae quam ad meipsum qui prohibui direxistis superbae appellationis verbum vniversalem me Papam dicentes imprimere curastis quod pet● dulcissima vestra sanctitas mihi vltra non faciat quia vobis substrahitur quod alteri plus quam ratio exigit prebetur And there after Recedant ergo verba quae vanitat inflant charitatem vulnerant Lib. 7. Epist. 30. That is Behold sayeth hee in the Preface of a Letter which yee directed to mee yee caused put in a prowd Title calling mee Universall Bishop or Pope which I did forbid and which I beseech your sweetest Holiness that you doe no more any such thing because that is withdrawn from you vnjustlie which agaynst right reason is given to any other Away then with such words that bloweth vp men with Vanitie and woundeth Charitie 3. Hee setteth down the reasons why such a prowd style should not be vsurped by any 1. Universa ergo Ecclesia quod absit à statu suo corruet quando is qui vocatur vniversalis cadet Lib. 4. Epist. 32. That is For then the vniversall Church sayeth hee should fall which GOD forbid when he falleth in heresie who is Universall Bishop thereof 2. Hee showeth That this were to imitate Lucifer who fell through Pryde saying Quis enim in hoc tam perverso vocabulo nisi ille ad imitandum proponitur qui despectis Angelorum legionibus secum socialiter constitutis ad culmen conatus est singularitatis erumpere vt nulli subesse solus omnibus preesse videretur Epist. 38. That is For who is set before our eyes for imitation in vsurping so prophane or wicked a Tytle but hee who despysing the legions of Angels who in one consociation were joyned with him would so aspyre to the hight of singularitie as hee would bee subject to none and would bee aboue all others himself alone as the Popes since avow in their Decretalls ‡ Last of all hee showeth that this Antichristian style and vsurpation thereof by Iohn Patriarch of Constātinople did design no other thing but that Antichrist was even at hand and that hee who did vsurp the same was his verie Fore-runner For thus hee sayeth Sed