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A06635 Via tuta the safe vvay. Leading all Christians, by the testimonies, and confessions of our best learned aduersaries, to the true, ancient, and catholique faith, now professed in the Church of England. By Humfrey Lynde Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1628 (1628) STC 17097; ESTC S109009 96,512 358

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obscure assemblies but in open Churches and generall Congregations of our owne Countrie in the darkest ages long before Luthers daies But obserue the comming of our aduersarie That book which was published in Anselmes daies for instruction and visitation of the sicke the same booke I say both for matter and substance hath of late yeares beene printed at Paris at Collen Ordo Baptizandi cum modo visitandi infirmos Paris anno 1575. Colon. anno 1556. Ven. anno 1575. at Venice whereby not onely the doctrine of merits is ecclipsed but the now Romane faith is discouered to differ from the ancient what therefore can bee expected how these men should iustifie their owne printed Authors Behold the Romane Inquisitors haue carefully prouided by two Expurgatory Indices Quiroga p. 149. Sandoual Roxas anno 1612. that the words of comfort which the Priest was enioyned to pronounce to the sicke person should be all blotted out and although the Inquisitors haue not as yet passed their sentence vpon Aelfricks Homilie Aelfricks Sermon on Easter day printed at London 1623. pag. 7. yet in that Homilie they haue suggested Transubstantiation by two feined miracles contrary to the doctrine of the Eucharist then publiquely taught and farre different from the whole Scope of the Author and the Latine Epistle written by Aelfricke to the Arch-bishop of Yorke is to be seene mangled and razed in a Manuscript in Bennets Colledge in Cambridge as is well obserued by a learned Diuine D. Iames in his corruption of Fathers pag. 55 and I cannot conceiue but it was done by some Romanist because it doth plainely confute the doctrine of Transubstantiation Thus wee see what time and errors hath brought to passe That Protestant faith which in Aelfricks daies was generally receiued in England for Catholique doctrine is now condemned as hereticall by a preuailing faction in the Romane Church and that word of truth which was published in Anselmes daies for the saluation of Priests and people in the English Church is now condemned by an Index Expurgatorius with a Deleatur vpon those sauing words but I say of them as Saint Ambrose sometimes pronounced of the Arrians Ambros orat 1. contr Arrian Transubstātiation They may well blot out our letters but our faith they shall neuer abolish Againe looke vpon their doctrine of Transubstantiation and you shall see how miserably their Church is deuided touching the antiquity and vniuersality of that point of faith some deriue it from the words of Christ others from Christs Benediction before the words were vttered some from the exposition of the Fathers others from the councel of Lateran some from the authoritie of the Scriptures others from the determination of the Church and whereas many other points of the Romish doctrine are pretended to be Apostolicall Traditions as hauing no foundation in the written word it is obserued by learned Du Plessis that the Papists generally maintaine that their Masse is prooued from the Scripture insomuch as in the 28. of Matthew and other places where there is mention made of the Sacrament the ordinarie Glosse doth note with capital letters in the Margent Moru de Miss lib. 1. c. 1. in initio Here is the Institution of the Masse It was the great vaunt of Campian the Iesuite Camp Rat. If the Protestants name the Gospell we ioyne with them the verie words are for vs This is my body this is my bloud and Bellarmine his fellow Iesuite professeth confidently that the words Bellar. de Euch. l. 1. c. 11. This is my bodie are of the essence of the Sacrament and they are operatiue If wee shall further question at what time whether before or after the wordes spoken there is a conuersion of the elements into the bodie and bloud of Christ Aquinas tels vs Vltimum instans prolationis verborum est primum instant in quo est in Sàcramento corpus Christi in toto autemtempore praecedenti est item substantia panis Aqu. par 3. q. 75. art 7. ad 1. that the verie last instance of the deliuerie of those words is the first instance of Christs bodie in the Sacrament but in all the time before there is the substance of bread remaining If these men therfore haue spoken the truth let them beare witnesse of the truth onely let mee tell you they want that vnitie in this point of faith which they appropriate as a speciall marke to their Church and for proofe of this I will proceed to publication of witnesses wherein I will produce no other testimonies but their owne learned Authors and I presume a better proofe then their owne confessions none of them can expect whereby it shall appeare that their grand point of Transubstantiation hath neither foundation in our Scriptures nor certaintie in the Fathers nor vnitie among themselues to conclude it for an Article of beleefe Touching the words of Consecration Salmeron the Iesuite speaking in the person of the Grecians deliuers their opinion in this manner Cham. lib. 6. de Euch. c. 7. When the Benediction of the Lord is not superfluous or vaine neither gaue hee simply bread it followeth when he gaue it the transmutation was made and those wordes This is my body did demonstrate what was contained in the bread Ex Catholicis solus Caietanus in Commentario huius Articuli qui iussu Pij Quinti in Romanâ editione expunctus est docuit seclusa Ecclesiae authoritate verba illa Hoc est corpus meum ad veritatem hanc confirmandā non sufficere Suar. Tom. 3. disp 46. not what was made by them And Swarez the Iesuite ingeniously professeth that Cardinall Caietan in his Commentarie vpon this Article did affirme that those words of Christ This is my body do not of themselues sufficiently prooue Transubstantiation without the supposed authoritie of the Church and therefore by the commandement of Pius Quintus that part of his Commentarie is left out of the Romish Edition Habemus confitentem wee haue a faire confession for a Cardinall and a friendly caueat touching the spunging of his authoritie And that the world may know these men are better friends to our cause then many yet conceiue them I will produce both Cardinals and Bishops and Schoolemen who will testifie with vs that there are no words in Scripture to proue Transubstantiation that those words This is my body are not of the essence of the Sacrament that the ancient Fathers did not beleeue the substance of the Sacramentall bread to be conuerted into Christs reall flesh and lastly that Transubstantiation was not beleeued de Fide as a matter of faith aboue 1000 yeares after Christ And first I will giue you their owne confessions touching the place and proofe of Transubstantiation deriued from the Scriptures Quomodò fit corpus Christi vtrum per cōuersionem alicuius c. Biel in Con. Missae Lect. 40. Gabriel Biel How the body of Christ is in the Sacrament Non
inuenitur in Canone Bibliae It is not expressed in the Canon of the Bible Patet quod ille modus sit possibilis nec repugnat rationi nec authoritati Bibliae imò facilior ad intelligendum rationabilior quam c. In 4. Sentent q. 6. ar 1. Cardinall de Alliaco That manner which supposeth the substance of bread to remaine still is possible neither is it contrarie to reason nor to the authoritie of the Scriptures nay it is more easie and more reasonable to conceiue if it could accord with the determination of the Church Hactenus Mattheus qui solus Testamenti noui meminit neque vllum hîc verbū positū est quo probetur in nostrâ Missa veram fieri carnis sanguinis Christi praesentiā I. Fish contrà capt Babylonicam N. 8. O. I. Fisher Bishop of Rochester Hitherto Saint Matthew who onely maketh mention of the new Testament neither are there any words here written whereby it may bee proued that in the Masse is made the very presence of the body and bloud of Christ and lastly he concludeth Non potest igitur per vllam Scripturam probari it cannot be proued by any Scripture Durand Benedixit benedictione caelesti virtute verbi qua conuertitur panis in substantiam corporis Christi c. Durand in Rational l. 4. c. 41. Christ blessed the bread by his heauenly benediction and by vertue of that word the bread was turned into the substance of Christs body and saith he Tunc confecit cum benedixit He then made it when he blessed it Odo Cameracensis Christ blessed the bread Benedixit fuii corpus fecit qui prius erat panis benedictione factus est caro non enim post benedictionē dixisset Hoc est corpus meū nisi in Benedictione fieret corpus suū Odo in Canonem Dist. 4. and then made that his bodie which was first bread and so by blessing it became flesh for otherwise he would not haue said after he had blessed it This is my body vnlesse by blessing it he had made it his body Cardinall Caietan That part which the Gospell hath not expressed Quod Euangelium non explicauit expresse ab Ecclesia accepi●ius viz. conuersionē panis in corpus Christi Caiet 3. 7 75. ar 1. Christoph lib. de Cap Fontiū de correctione Theolog. Scho. Lege Christophorum fol. 11. 41. 87. ●8 23. 63. 58. Fol. 7. 9. c. viz. the conuersion of the bread into the bodie and bloud of Christ we haue receiued expresly from the Church Christophorus Archbishop of Caesarea Before the words This is my body were vttered by Christ if the bread by benediction had not beene his bodie that proposition had not beene true for when Christ said Take ye eate ye if at that time the bread by benediction were not changed it will follow that Christ did command his Disciples to take and eate the substance of bread and so we must denie the Article of Transubstantiation therefore it is most certaine that Christ did not consecrate by those words neither were they any part of consecration and in this opinion both the Councell of Trent and all writers did agree till the late times of Caietan that Christ did consecrate the bread by blessing it and therefore we conclude this for an infallible truth to which both Scriptures and Councels Secundò dicit Scotus non extare locum vllū Scripturae tam expressū vt sine Ecclesiae determinatione euidenter cogat Transubstantiationem admittere atque id non est omninò improbabi●e Nam etiamsi Scriptura tamen merito dubitari totest cū homines doctissimi acutissimi qualis inprimis Scotus suit contrartū sentiunt Bel. de Euchar. lib. 3. c. 23. and all Antiquitie yeeld an vndeniable testimony and consent that the words This is my body are not the words of cōsecration nor consequently the cause of Transubstantiation Cardinall Bellarmine It is not altogether improbable that there is no expresse place of Scripture to proue Transubstantiation without the declaration of the Church as Scotus said for although the Scriptures seeme to vs so plaine that they may compell any but a refractarie man to beleeue them yet it may iustly bee doubted whether the Text bee cleare enough to inforce it seeing the most acute and learned men such as Scotus was haue thought the contrarie Thus the learned Cardinall who at first did confidently affirme that the words This is my bodie were of the essence of the Sacrament and did effect that which they did signifie Vpon the examination of witnesses of his owne side confesseth Merito dubitari potest c. It may iustly bee doubted whether the Scriptures doe prooue the bodily presence and wee all know and confesse that a doubtfull opinion cannot be made an Article of faith from which cōfessions I may truly infer If the consecrated bread be neither transubstantiated by Christs benediction before those words were vttered as Aquinas the Romane Catechisme and the Masse Priests commonly affirme nor by the words This is my body vttered after the Benediction as the Archbishop of Caesarea Cardinall Caietan and others doe affirme then certainely there are no words in Scripture to proue Transubstantiation for an Article of beleefe I proceed from Scriptures to Fathers Alphonsus à Castro was a diligent reader and obseruer of the ancient Fathers De Transubstantiatione panis in corpus Christi raraenim antiquis Scriptoribus mentio Alphon. lib. 8. contra heres verbo Indulgentiae yet after great studies and long search in their writings returnes this answer Of the conuersion of the body and bloud of Christ there is seldome mention in the ancient Fathers And the reason is giuen by another learned writer of his owne side Jn Primitiua Ecclesia de substātia fidei erat corpus Christi subspeciebus contineri tamen non erat de fide substantiam panis in corpus Christi conuerti factâ consecratione illinc recedere Ioh. Yribarne in 4. d. 11. q. 3 disp 42. Sect. 1. In the Primitiue Church it was beleeued for a point of faith that the bodie of Christ was contained vnder the formes of bread and wine but it was not beleeued as a matter of faith that after consecration the substance of the bread was conuerted into the body of Christ and howsoeuer our Aduersaries pretend antiquitie and vniuersalitie of Fathers for their doctrine yet Saint Austin is so wholly ours in this point that Maldonat the Iesuite noting his exposition vpon those words of Scripture The Fathers haue eaten Manna and are dead c. makes this confession I am perswaded that if Saint Austin being so great an enemy to heretiques Hoc dico perswasum me habere Sanctū Augustinumsi nostrâ suissot ●tate longè aliter sensurum fuisse hominem omni haereticorū generi inimicissimum cum videret ad eundem ferè modum Caluinistas hunc illum D. Pauli
Thou art Christ the Sonne of the liuing God will I build my Church what saith the Romanists to this doctrine Stapl. princip doctr lib. 6. c. 3. Bell. lib. 1. de Pontif. c. 10. Stapleton answers It was lapsus humanus a humane error caused by the diuersity of the Greeke and Latine tongue which either he was ignorant of or marked not Touching the Communion in both kinds 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. In latinis codicibus non habetur vnus calix omnibus distributus de Euch. lib. 4. cap. 26. Ignatius saith One cup is distributed to all what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine In the Latine bookes it is not found that one cup is giuen to all but for all Ego vt libere pronunciem sententiam meam suspicor hunc locum fuisse ab haereticis deprauatam Senens in Biblio Sancta lib. 6. annot 66. Touching the Sacrament of Christs body Origen saith The body of Christ is typicall and Symbolicall what saith Senensis to this doctrine To speake my minde freely I suspect this place to bee corrupted Touching Transubstantiation Theodoretus de alijs quibusdam erroribus in Concilio Ephesino notatus fuit etiamsi posteà resipuit Gregor de Valentià in lib. de Transub c. 7. Sect. 11. Theodoret saith the substance of bread and wine ceaseth not in the Sacrament what answer the Romanists to this doctrine Gregorie de Valentia saith Theodoret did erre in the Councell of Ephesus although he afterwards repented it Touching our Iustification by faith onely Vna sola virtus iustificat Fides quae est virtutum fastidium Chrys serm in Psal 14. Tom. 1. Hanc Homiliam neque apud Graecos puto haeberi neque in eá Chrysostomū agnosco Notatio in B. Chrys ad finē Tom. 5. Chrysostome saith Faith alone doth iustifie c. what saith Nobilius Flaminius to this doctrine I doe not thinke this Homilie is receiued in Greeke neither doe I acknowledge it to be Chrysostomes Touching Images in Churches Epiphanius saith hee found a vaile at the entrance of the Church representing the Image of Christ or some Saint Verba illa non sunt Epiphanij sed supposititià Sāder de Imag. lib. 2. Sunt potius alicuius Iconoclastarum figmentum quam epiphanij germanū scriptum Baron annal ad anno 392. num 59. and commanded it to be taken downe and buried what saith Sanders to this doctrine they are not the words of Epiphanius but some counterfeit they are the words saith Baronius of some Image breaker Touching Traditions and vnwritten verities Saint Cyprian saith From whence is this tradition for the Lord commanded vs to doe those things which are written what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Respondeo Cyprianam haec scripsisse cum errorem suam tueri vellet Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 4. c. 11. Saint Cyprian thought to defend his owne error and therefore it is no maruaile if hee erred in so reasoning Chry. Homil. 3. in Epist ad Ephes Dico Chrysostomū vt quaedam alia per excessū ita esse locutum cum solum hortari cuperet homines ad frequenter dignè communicandum Bellar. lib. 2. de Missa c. 10. Touching Priuate Masse Chrysostome saith It is better not to bee present at the Sacrifice then to be present and not communicate with the priest what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Chrysostome spake this as at other times by exceeding the truth when he would incite men frequently and worthily to communicate Nihil aliud diconisimore Poetico lusisse Prudentium Bellar. lib. 2. de Purgat c. 16. Againe if we cite Prudentius Bellarmine answers I say no more of him but that hee played the Poet. If we obiect Tertullian Non magni facienda est eius authoritas cum contradicit alijs Patribus cum constat eum hominem Ecclesiae non fuisse Bellar. lib. 3. de Euchar c. 6. Originē plenum fuisse erroribus quos ecclesia semper detestata est Ribera in Malach. in proc●m Hieronymus no est Regula Fidei Canus in Theolog. locis lib. 2. 11. Iustini Irenai Epiphanij atque Oecumenij sententiam non vid●o quo pacto ab errore possimus defendere Bellar. lib. 1. de sanct cap. 6. Locum ab authoritate esse infirmum vt prudens quidem pastor dixit Pauperis est c. in iudicio plurimorum non acquiesces Salmer Rom. 5. disput 51. Bellarmine answers His authority is of no great account when he contradicts other Fathers and when it appeares he was no man of the Church If we produce Origen Ribera the Iesuite saith He was full of errors which the Church alwaies detested If we cite Hierome Canus makes answer Hierom is no rule of faith If we cite Iustin Irenaeus Epiphanius and Oecumenius Bellarmine answers I see not how we can defend these men from error Lastly if wee produce the vniforme consent of Fathers against the immaculate conception of the blessed Virgin Salmeron the Iesuite makes answer weake is the place which is drawne from authority for Pauperis est numerare pecus It is the signe of a poore man to number his cattell Thus in behalfe of the Protestant doctrine you haue heard the proofe of the Romish witnesses in the chife points made good by the testimōies of the Fathers themselues you haue heard likewise notwithstanding their great vaunt of the Fathers how lightly they regard them or reiect them when they speake not Placentia agreeable to their Church and doctrine and that no man may doubt many in the bosomes of their owne Church haue spoken freely and truely in many particular points of doctrine both with vs and against their owne Tenets behold it is so truely felt and commonly vnderstood that the Church hath complained to the Inquisitors and the Inquisitors haue sent out Melius Inquirendum a new writ of enquirie after such delinquents and haue censured them with a Deleatur in those passages that make either for our doctrine or against their owne Sect. 13. Our aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues In Bibli Roberti Stephani c. 7. Deuteron IN the Margent of the Bible it is declared God forbids grauen Images to bee made what say the Inquisitors to this Ind. Exp. Quiroga fol. 8. Delcatur let that passage bee strucken out The Glosse vpon Gratian saith Teste Ioh. Pappo in Jndic Belgic p. 333. The Priest cannot say significatiuely of the bread This is my body without telling of a lie what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur let that old leauen be cast out Cassander wrote a whole tract for the Communion in both kindes Jnd. Exp. Belgic pag. 38. what say the Inquisitors to this Deleatur let the whole Tract be blotted out C. Caietan saith Ex Catholicis solus Caietanus in Commentario huius Articuli qui iussu Pij Quinti in Romana
Touching faith and good workes it is Bellarmines confession Bell. de Justif l. 3. c. 6. The Protestants doe not deny but that faith and repentance are requisite that is a liuely faith and an earnest repentance and that without them no man can be iustified Lastly touching Iustification by faith onely it is Bellarmines confession Idem l. 5. c. 7. For feare of vaine glorie and by reason of the vncertaintie of our workes Tutissimum it is the safest way to relie wholly on the mercy of God I begge not of our Aduersaries the points in question betwixt vs but I wonder rather why they should send out such Anathemas and curses against all or any of those that denie their doctrine when as their best learned confesse that many principall points of their owne Religion yea many Articles of faith are neither ancient safe nor Catholike It is not the name of Catholique which they assume that makes good the Catholique doctrine neither is it the opinion of the great learning or the multitude on that side which must out face the truth for our Sauiour Christ doth especially note the members of his body by the name of a Little flocke Feare not little flocke Luk. 12.32 as if the paucitie of true beleeuers were the speciall Caracter of the true Church and as for the learned on that side You see your calling brethren saith the Apostle Not many wise men after the flesh 1. Cor. 1. 26. not many mightie not many noble are called And if our aduersaries list to assume all learning and knowledge vnto themselues I enuie not their great wisedome but I rather admire with wonder and pitie Mat. 11.25 and I thanke thee O Father Lord of heauen and earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast reuealed them vnto babes And if our aduersaries please to reflect vpon their owne Religion they shall find likewise that the principall markes of the Romane Church were discouered and foretold long since by Christ and his Apostles that it should bee after the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders and wee know such miracles are the special caracters of the Roman Church The Spirit of God foresaw that their doctrine would consist in forginges not onely of Fathers of Councels of Schoolemen but of daily miracles in their Church and for this deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse because they receiued not the loue of truth that they might be saued their iudgement was foretold and is now accomplished 2. Thess 2.11 God shall send them strong delusions and they shall beleeue lyes I list not to insist vpon such feyned miracles wrought either by their Priests or by their companions for lucre sake Aliquandò in Ecclesia fit maxima deceptio populi in miraculu fictis in Sacerdotibus Nich. Lyra in Dan. ca. 14. It is sufficient that their owne Schoolemen confesse it but I professe with Austin As they were necessarie before the world beleeued to induce it to beleeue so hee that seeketh to be confirmed by wonders now is to be wondred as most of all himselfe in refusing to beleeue what all the world beleeues besides himselfe Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimomonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion answered BVt obserue the cunning and policie of these men they are not contented to claime an interest in all ancient and orthodoxe Authors in behalfe of their Church but they would seeme to confirme the truth of their doctrine by the sufferings of Saints and testimonies of holy Martyrs Camp Rat. 10 Let vs ascend into Heauen by imagination saith Campian and there we shall find such as through martyrdome are as ruddie as the Rose and also such as for their innocencie while they liued do glister as beautifully as the white Lillies there may we see three and thirtie Bishops of Rome which for their faith were immediatly murdered one after another Thou shalt find that they liued here and dyed members of the Catholike Church I confesse the name of Martyrdome carries some shew in honor of the Church of Rome but the truth being weighed in the ballance of sinceritie it will appeare but a braggeful of froth vaine glorie for if those Martyrs and Bishops neither suffered for that faith at the time of their deaths nor in all their liues receiued that faith which is now published with Anathema to all them that beleeue it not surely those Saints and Martyrs will neuer bee found to haue liued and died members of their Church although they died Martyrs in the ancient Romane Church Let vs examine some particulars did euer any Martyr die vpon confidence of his owne merits or dare any Romanist suffer death in iustification of his owne righteousnesse was there any of those three and thirtie Bishops canonized a Saint for his adoration giuen to Images Did euer any Martyr take it vpō his death or dare any Romish priest die vpon this confidence that he hath absolute power to remit sinnes to dispense with oaths to create in the Sacrament the Creator of heauen and earth Did euer any ancient Martyr teach that the Scripture was vnperfect without the helpe of Traditions or dare any Romanist take it vpon his death that all the vnwritten verities now taught and receiued in the Church of Rome are of equall authoritie with the Scripture Did euer any Martyr take it vpon his death or dare any Romish Priest die vpon confidence that the consecrated bread depending vpon the Intention of the Priest is the corporall and reall flesh of Christ It was the case of certaine Masse priests now or lately liuing and in particular of F. Garnet who beeing demanded whether if hee were to consecrate the Sacramēt that morning he should suffer death durst after consecration pronounce openly ouer the Cup B. Andrewes resp ad Apolog Bellar. ● 1 p. 7. If this wine in the Cup whose accidents you see bee not the very bloud of Christ which flowed from his side as he hung vpon the crosse let mee haue no part either in the bloud of Christ or with Christ hereafter F. Garnet as a man perplexed made answer It might iustly bee doubted neither did he conceiue that any one was bound rashly to endanger his saluation by assuming vpon his death that any Indiuiduall Priest at a time certaine did transubstantiat the bread into the bodie of Christ but peraduenture in generall and indefinitely saith he it may bee resolued that Transubstantiation is made Ab aliquo Alicubi Aliquandò By some Priest in some place at sometime And as concerning the Saints and Martyrs of the ancient Church it is vndoubtedly true that they could not die in that faith nor for that Religion which was altogether vnknowne to their Church The doctrine of Priuate Masse the Communion in one kinde the Prayer in an vnknowne tongue the works of Supererogation the peremptorie number of seuen Sacraments the power of
Christ and the rites receiued in the solemne administration of them all I do embrace 4. I admit and receiue all those points touching originall sinne and Iustification which are defined and declared by the Councell of Trent 5. I professe that there is a true proper and propitiatorie sacrifice offered to God in the Masse both for the quicke and the dead and that in the Eucharist the Bread and the Wine are Transubstantiated into the bodie and bloud of Christ 6. I acknowledge that vnder one kind whole and perfect Christ and the true Sacrament is receiued 7. I doe constantly hold that there is Purgatorie and that the soules there detained are helped by the Prayers of the faithfull 8. I hold that the Saints are to bee worshipped and called vpon and that they offer prayers for vs vnto God and that their relickes are to be worshipped 9. I doe resolutely affirme that the Images of Christ and of the Virgin Marie and also of other Saints are to be had and retained and that due honor and veneration is to bee yeelded to them 10. I do hold that the power of Indulgences was left by Christ in the Church and that the vse of them is most wholsome to Christian people 11. I acknowledge the holy Catholike and Apostolicke Romane Church to be the Mother and Mistrisse of all Churches and I promise and sweare true obedience to the Bishop of Rome the successor of Saint Peter the Prince of the Apostles and the Vicar of Iesus Christ 12. I vndoubtedly receiue and professe all other things deliuered defined and declared by the holy Canons and Oecumenicall Councels especially by the holy Synod of Trent c. The ten Commandements 1. I Am thy Lord God The Christiā doctrine cōposed by the Reuerēd Father Iames Ledesma Priest of the societie of Iesus and printed permessu Superiorum An. 1609. 1624. Thou shalt haue no other Gods but me 2. Thou shalt not take the name of God in vaine 3. Remember to sanctifie the holy-dayes 4. Honour thy father and mother 5. Thou shalt not kill 6. Thou shalt not commit adulterie 7. Thou shalt not steale 8. Thou shalt not beare false witnesse 9. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours wife 10. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours goods The Contents Sect. 1. THe causelesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches pag. 1 Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession p. 10. Sect. 3. Corruptions both in faith and manners confessed by the members of the Romane Church and yet the Reformation denyed by the Pope and why c. p 18 Sect 4. Many learned Romanists conuicted by the euidence of Truth either in part or in whole haue renounced Poperie before their death p. 26. Sect. 5. Worldly policie and profit hinders the Reformation of such things which are altogether inexcusable in themselues p. 35. Sect. 6. The common pretence of our Aduersaries refusing reformation because we cannot assigne the precise time when errors came in Refuted p. 43. Sect. 7. The pedigree of the Romish faith drawne downe from the ancient heretiques and the Protestant faith deriued from Christ and his Apostles p. 59. Sect. 8. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Antiquitie and vniuersality of the Protestant faith in generall p. 68. Sect. 9. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Roman faith in these particular paragraphes 1. Iustification by faith onely p. 80. 2. The Sacrament of the Lords Supper and the doctrine of Transubstantiation p 86. 3. Priuate Masse p 116. 4. Seuen Sacraments p 132. 5. Communion in both kinds p. 164. 6. Prayer and Seruice in a known tongue p. 175 7. Worship of Images p. 189. 8. Indulgences p. 211. Sect 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish p. 233. Sect. 11. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the greater safety comfort and benefit of the soule in the Protestant faith then in the Romish pag. 249. Sect. 12. Our Aduersaries conuicted by the euident Testimonies of the ancient Fathers either ridiculously elude them or plainly reiect them p 263. Sect. 13. Our Aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues p. 272. Sect. 14. Our Aduersaries conuicted of their defence of a desperate cause by their blasphemous exception against the Scripture it selfe 278. Sect. 15. Our chiefest Aduersarie Cardinall Bellarmine testifies the truth of our doctrine in the principall points of controuersie betwixt vs. p 287. Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion Answered p 295. Sect. 17. Our Aduersaries common obiection drawne from the charitable opinion of Protestants touching the saluation of professed Romanists liuing and dying in their Church Answered p. 303. Sect. 18. Prouing according to the Title of the booke by the confession of all sides that the Protestants Religion is safer because in all positiue points of doctrine the Romanists themselues agree with vs but in their additions they stand single by themselues p 315. The safe Way Sect. 1. The causlesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches WE reade in the Ecclesiastical History when the ancient Christians at Antioch fell at variance amongst themselues Theodoret sought by a fauourable report to allay the bitternesse of their Contention with these words Both parts make one and the same Confession of their faith Theod. lib 3. Hist. Eccles cap. 4. For both maintaine the Creed of the Nicene Councell The beautifull and sacred name of Truth speakes peace to all and that louely name of Peace giues that sweet counsell to all Christians which Abraham gaue to Lot Gen 13.8 Let there be no strife betwixt me and thee for wee be brethren If the Church of Rome had loued Truth and Peace without doubt the common bond of Christianity and the Creed which is the generall Cognizance of our faith would haue incited them to the like fauourable construction of the Controuersies of this age and the rather because their owne learned Cardinall professeth Bellar de Verbo Dei l. 4. c. 11. Primū Nota Secundò That the Apostles neuer propounded as Common Articles of faith other things then the Articles of the Apostles Creed the ten Commandements some few of the Sacramēts because saith he these things are simply necessarie and profitable for all men the rest are such as a man may be saued without them But such is the nature of the malignant Church and for that cause the Church of Rome is rightly deciphered by that name that instead of qualifying the vnquenchable broyles and intirely preseruing the seamelesse garment of Christ Camp 1. Rat. Jewel Harding pa. 222. 178. shee ●●rmes vs Heretiques hell●ounds of Swinglius Luthers whelpes Turkish Hugenots damned
was vsed by the Apostles their successors not deuised by Luther If therefore the three Creeds the two principall Sacraments of the Church the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the first foure generall Councels the Apostolique Traditions the ancient Lyturgies the ordination of Pastors If I say all these were anciently taught and vniuersally receiued in all ages in the bosome of the Romane Church euen by the testimonies of our aduersaries themselues it is but a silly and senslesse question to demand of vs where our Church was before Luther The positiue doctrine which we teach is contained in a few principall points those also haue Antiquity and Vniuersality with the Consent of the Romane Church The points in controuersie which are sub Iudice in question are for the most part if not all additions to the Church and certainely frō those additions and new Articles of faith the question doth truly and properly result vpon themselues Where was your Church that is Where was your Trent doctrine and Articles of the Romane Creed receiued de Fide before Luther But admit our doctrine lay inuolued in the bosome of the Romane Church which no Romanist can deny I say admit it became hidden as good corne couered with chaffe or as fine gold ouerlayed with a greater quantitie of drosse was it therefore new and vnknowne because Poperie sought by a preuailing faction to obscure it was there no good corne in the Granary of the Church because till Luthers dayes it was not seuered from the chaffe no pure gold because our aduersaries would not refine it by the fire of Gods word If the chaffe and drosse be ours or if our Church sauour of nothing but Noueltie and heresie as some of these men pretend let them remoue from the bosome of their owne Church that new and hereticall doctrine which they say was neuer heard of before Luther and tell mee if their Church will not prooue a poore senslesse carkasse a dead body without a soule Take away the three Creeds which we professe our two Sacraments the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the Apostolicall Traditions the foure first general Councels and tell me such light chaffe new heresies as they how stile them being remoued if their twelue new Articles their fiue base Sacraments the Apostolicall Scriptures their vnwritten verities and Traditions will make a true visible Church It is true that wee denie their additions there aliquod amplius because they are grounded on humane authoritie and want the foundation of the Scriptures wee denie Purgatorie Inuocation of Saints Works of Supererrogation worship of Images and the like and if our Religion be therfore termed Negatiue for deniall of those things who sees not but for the like reason they themselues wil stand guiltie of the same aspersion Do not they denie the substance of bread after Consecration doe not they denie the Scriptures to the Laitie Marriage to the Priests the Cup to the Lay people the Supremacie to their Soueraigne in his own dominions and may not we for these and the like reasons protest against them that therfore theirs is a Negatiue Religion But that the world may know wee obtrude not these things by way of recrimination it shall appeare by their owne confession the Traditions which we deny are declined by the best learned amongst themselues Nay more they doe not onely acknowledge those things which we hold but the most ingenious of them are ashamed also of those additions which wee denie As for instance we charge them with the worship of Images they denie it or leastwise excuse their manner of adoration but they condemne not vs for not worshipping We accuse them for praying in an vnknowne tongue they excuse it that God knowes the meaning of the heart but they do not condemne vs for praying with the spirit and with vnderstanding Wee condemne them for adoring the elements of bread and wine in the Sacrament because it depends vpon the intention of the Priest they excuse it Jnnocentius the third Adoro te si tu es Christus that they adore vpon condition If the consecrated bread be Christ but they doe not cōdemne vs for adoring Christs reall body in heauen we accuse them for taking away the Cup from the Lay people they excuse it that it was not taken vp by the Commandement of the Bishops Coster Enchirid de commun sub vtraque specie Anno 1414. but it crept in the Bishops winking thereat saith Costerus but they did not condemne vs for following Christs example and receiuing in both kinds Lastly we accuse them for their priuate Masses contrarie to Christs institution and the custome of the Primitiue Church Harding in B. Jewel ca. Priuat Masse they excuse it That it is through their own default and negligence whereof saith Master Harding the godly and faithfull people since the time of the Primitiue Church haue much complained and which is remarkable and comfortable to all beleeuing Protestants we charge them with flat idolatrie in the adoration of the Sacrament in Reliques in Saints in Images and howsoeuer they excuse themselues in distinguishing their manner of adoration yet I say to our endlesse comfort be it spoken they cannot charge vs in the positiue doctrine of our Church no not with the least suspition of idolatrie Sect. 9. The testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Romane faith in the particulars PARAG. 1. Iustification by faith onely THese things premised I will proceed to the examination of witnesses both for the Antiquitie of our doctrine and the Noueltie of theirs but before I go to publication I will present you with two Records for two principall points of our faith by which euidences it shal appeare that the Word and Sacraments the proper marks of a true Church were rightly preached and duely administred here in England in the most obscure ages long before Luthers daies I say it shall appeare that before and after the Conquest the Priests and professors of those times protested openly against the doctrine of Romish merits preaching saluation through Christ alone and withall publikely professed and administred the same Sacraments in the same faith and truth which wee teach and administer at this day In the dayes of Anselme Archbishop of Canterburie about the yeare 1080. there was a set and publique forme of prayer prescribed for the visitation of the sicke Cass in append ad opus Jo. Roffen de fiducia misericordia Dei. and this forme saith Cassander in Bibliothecis passim obuia was commonly to be had and read in all Libraries The wordes are plaine and fully consonant to the faith our Church professeth Ordo Baptizandi visitandi edit venet Anno 1575. Dost thou beleeue to come to glorie not by thine owne merits but by the vertue and merit of the passion of our Lord Iesus Christ dost thou beleeue that our Lord Iesus Christ did dye for our saluation and that none can
locum interpretari Maldon in Ioh. 6. v. 50. num 80. 81. had liued in these our daies would haue beene of another minde when hee had once perceiued the Caluinists interpretation to bee almost the same and Gregory de Valentia obseruing the manifest testimonies of Theodoret viz. That the consecrated elements did remaine in their proper substance and shape and figure returnes the like answer Minimè mirū est si vnut aut alter aut etiam aliqui ex veteribus minimè considerate rectê hâc de re senserint Greg. de valent de Transubstan lib. 2. cap. 7. It is not to bee maruailed if one or more of the ancient Fathers before the question of Transubstantiation was throughly debated in the Church haue both thought lesse considerately and truelie concerning Transubstantiation and this is an answer saith he briefe and simple and no way inconuenient Thus it seemes Theodoret with other Fathers were ignorant of the greatest mysteries of their saluation and Saint Austin did not rightly vnderstand the corporall presence for hee would haue changed his opinion if he had liued in these daies but their learned Cardinall Cusanus is not so reserued in his opinion of the Fathers hee speakes plainely and openly Cusan exercet lib. 6. that certaine of the Ancient Diuines are found of this minde that the bread in the Sacrament is not Transubstantiated or changed in nature but remaineth still and is cloathed with an other substance more noble then it selfe and for a conclusion of this point many writers and Schoolemen in their owne Church are so farre from granting antiquity and vniuersality to this doctrine that they professe the Tenet of Transubstantiation was lately receiued into the Church for a point of faith Nota. Vnum addit Scotus quod minimè probandū quod ante Lateranense Concilium non fuisse dogma fidei Bellar. lib. 3. de Euchar cap. 23. Scotus tels vs that before the Councell of Lateran Transubstantiation was not beleeued as a point of faith This did Bellarmine obserue as a thing remarkeable Suar. in 3. Thom. in Enchar disp 50. Sect. 2. p. 602 and Suarez his fellow Iesuite protesteth the Schoolemen which teach the doctrine of Transubstantiation is not very ancient ought to be corrected such as Scotus was It is confessed then that Scotus and other Schoolemen did acknowledge Transubstantiation for 〈◊〉 doctrine and it is most probable that such Schoolemen liuing not long after the Councell of Lateran where that doctrine was decreed for a point of faith best vnderstood the Tenets of those times In like manner Durand and some of his fellow Schoolemen after him professed openly that the materiall part or substance of the Sacramentall bread was not conuerted These testimonies are so true and euident to the world that Bellarmine doth confesse and auoid that saying of Scotus with à minimè probandum c. it must not be allowed and as touching Durand he answereth his doctrine is hereticall Bellar. de Euchar lib. 3. cap. 13. but he is no heretique because he is ready to submit to the iudgement of the Church To let passe Whicleffe the Waldenses and others who were condemned for heretiques for professing the same doctrine Durand in 4 Sent. dist 10. q. 1. num 13. Their owne Proselites Hostiensis and Gaufridus tell vs that there were others in those daies who taught the substance of bread did remaine and this opinion say they was not to be reiected If we descend to this last age their owne learned Tonstall professeth that the beleefe of Transubstantiation within lesse then 500 yeares was a matter of indifferencie not an Article of faith Of the manner and meanes of the reall presence how it might bee either by Transubstantiation or otherwise perhaps it had beene better to leaue to euery man that would bee curious to his owne coniecture De modo quo id fieret fortassè Satiùs erat curiosū quemque relinquere coniectura sicut liberum fuit antè Concilium Lateranse Tonstall de Enchaer lib. 1. p. 46. Eras Annot. in Corinth 7. as before the Councell of Lateran it was left and lastly there owne Erasmus concludes with à serò definiuit Ecclesia c. It was late ere the Church defined Transubstantiation Since therefore the Protestant faith touching the Spirituall and Sacramentall participation of Christs body was generally taught and beleeued in the former and the latter ages since the doctrine of Transubstantiation hath no Vnitie amongst the Romish Authors no Vniuersality amongst the ancient Fathers no certainty in the Sacred Scriptures Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion Siuè de Christo siuè de Ecclesia siuè de quacunque aliâ re quae pertinet ad fidem vitam que nostram non dicam nos nequaquam comparandi ei qui dixit sed fi Angelus de coelo vobis anuntiauerit preter quam quod in Scripturis Legalibus Euangelicis accepistis Anathema sit Aug. Contr. liter Petil. lib. 3. cap 6. Whether concerning Christ or his Church or any thing that appertaineth to our faith and life I will not say if we who are no way to bee compared to him that so spake but if an Angell from heauen shall preach vnto you any thing besides that you haue receiued in the Legall and Euangelicall Scriptures let him be accursed PARAG. 3. Priuate Masse Si quis dixerit Missas in quibus solus sacerdo Sacramētaliter communicat esse illicitas ideoque abrogandas Anathema sit Cōcil Trident. can 8. IT is decreed by the Councell of Trent If any shall say that Masses in which the Priest alone doth Communicate are vnlawfull and therfore ought to be abrogated let him bee accursed Here is a Curse proclaimed against all or any that shall condemne Priuate Masse as vnlawfull and herein the Protestants stand in danger of a Cursing Councell for it is an Article of the Reformed Church Priuate Masses Artic. of Ireland Art 100. that is the receiuing of the Eucharist by the Priest alone without a competent number of Communicants is contrarie to the institution of Christ and the practise of the Primitiue Church and hence it will follow that Priuate Masse is vnlawfull and therefore to be abrogated Now hee that curseth vs curseth Christ that ordained it and God that commanded vs to obserue it It was the answer in the like case made by a right Reuerend and learned Prelate of our Church B. Bilson the difference betweene Chri. Subiect Antichri Rebel pag. 657. If wee haue altered any part of Christs Institution Curse on in Gods name and let your Curses take effect but if the celebration of our Mysteries be answerable to his will and word that first ordained them You curse not vs whom You would hurt but him that your cursed tongues cannot hurt which is God to be blessed for euer The Communion which is vsed together with Priest and people in our Church is deriued from Christ himselfe for
harum rerum mentionē s●ciant quoniā c. Bellar. de Indulg lib. 2. cap. 17. either in Scriptures or the writings of the Ancient Fathers but onely out of Moderne Authors C. Caietan If there could be a certaintie found touching the beginning of Indulgences it would much auaile in searching of the truth but because there can be no certainty found touching the beginning of them there is no authoritie of Scripture or Ancient Fathers Greeke or Latine that bringeth them to our knowledge Bellarmine It is not to bee wondred if we haue not many Ancient Authors which makes mention of Indulgences for many things are contained in the Church onely by vse and custome without writing This learned Cardinall confesseth that many ancient authorities are not to be expected for proofe of this doctrine and this seemes to me a strange thing that an Article of faith should want Antiquity and Vniuersality of Fathers which as they pretend belongs to al points of faith it is strange that a Generall Councell should declare them to bee deriued from Christ and yet they should want ancient Fathers to witnesse Christs doctrine I rather beleeue according to the Article of the Creed that the vse thereof is most wholesome for the people for albeit they are granted onely to draw money from them yet withall the Popes Ministers had this benefit by them they sometimes set them to sale for a small price or game at Tables in a Tauerne Guicciard lib. 13. anno 1520. to redeeme soules out of Purgatory as it is witnessed by their owne Authors The Learned Doctors of of the Trent-Councell were not ignorant of this practise and of much more exercised by Leo the Tenth and others of his Predecessors but they were so farre from beleefe that this point of faith should bee deriued from Christ and his Apostles that Ecchius and Thecel and Prierius for want of Scriptures and Fathers laid their groundworke on the Popes authority and consent of Schoolemen Histor. of Trent lib. 1. p. 6. concluding that the Pope not being able to erre in matters of faith and hauing approoued the doctrine of the Schoolemen and himselfe publishing the Indulgences to all the faithfull it was necessary to beleeue them as an Article of faith I will not say it was a strāge presumption for a Councell to determine an vncertaine doctrine for a point of faith vpon the Popes infallibilitie and opinion of Schoolemen but I will say it is a senselesse and weake faith that giues assent to that doctrine which wants authority of Scriptures and consent of Fathers It was an ingenuous confession of their owne Cunerus Dolendum simul mirandū c. It is to bee lamented and admired how some Catholiques doe write of Indulgences so timorously so coldly so diuersly Chamier de satisfacti lib. 24. cap 2. so doubtfully as if their reasons were so farre fetched or so vncertaine that without great difficultie they could not proue them and surely if Cardinall Bellarmine or Cardinall Caietan and the rest could haue found better proofes for this point of faith they would neuer haue confessed that neither Scriptures nor Fathers doe bring them to our knowledge especially since no Article of faith can bee created without the authoritie of scriptures and therfore Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion for their Article of faith If wee or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the Legall and Euangelicall Scriptures let him bee accursed You haue heard the confessions of our best learned Aduersaries witnessing with vs that the principall points of their Faith and doctrine now taught and professed in the Church of Rome were not knowne to former ages whereby we may easilie discerne how the Church of Rome doth obtrude strange Articles of beleife vpon her Proselites which haue no foundations in the Scriptures and want the vniuersalitie and consent of Fathers and although the Priests and Iesuits are bound by an oath to maintaine the Papacie and thereupon they generaly protest that al the Fathers are on their side and the ignorant people out of an affected ignorance blinde obedience easily condescend to that beleefe yet I say it cannot bee denied that the Popes sworne seruants our sworne enemies there best witnesses and our worst accusers haue testified these things both against themselues and in behalfe of our doctrine howsoeuer they may be excused yet sure I am they are diuided amongst themselues consequently want another speciall marke of their Church which is vnity in points of Faith To take a short reuiew of our Aduersaries confessions touching the doctrine of Merits they haue confessed that our Iustification is by faith and Christ Iesus onely they haue confessed that there is no saluation nor assurance in our owne merits but in the mercie and merits of our alone Sauiour and in this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertainetie of their owne doctrine and in this likewise they acknowledge the antiquity and visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching Transubstātiatiō they haue confessed there is no expresse place of scripture to proue the word nor the meaning of the word they haue confessed the conuersion of the bread into Christs body Antè Lateranēse Concilium non fuit dogma fides Scotus in 4. sentent c. 11. ●3 was not generally receiued by the Fathers they haue confessed before the Councell of Lateran it was not reeeiued for an Article of beleefe In these confessions they plainely intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and by these likewise they acknowledge the antiquity and Visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching Priuate Masse they confessed it was not vsed in the Ancient Church for say they the communion of Priests and people together was practised by the Fathers In this confession they intimate the Noueltie of their Religion and in this they acknowledge the antiquity and Visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching the Seuen Sacraments they confesse the definite and certaine number of Seuen was vnknowne to Scriptures and Fathers they confesse that some of those Sacraments were not instituted by Christ they confesse that all of them are not true and proper Sacraments of the new Law all which on the contrarie are commanded by their Church to bee beleeued vpon a Curse and in these confessions they argue the Noueltie and vncertaintie of their doctrine and in this they acknowledge the antiquitie and Visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching the Communion in one kinde they confessed that it was not practised by the Apostles nor the ancient Church for say they Christ did institute in both kinds and the Primitiue Fathers did continue it in both kinds In this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine in this they acknowledge the antiquitie and visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Touching
prayer in an vnknowne tongue they confessed it was not vsed in the Primitiue antient Church but say they the prayer and seruice was vsually taught in the vulgar and knowne tongue In this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and in this acknowledgement they witnesse the antiquitie and visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Touching Adoration of Images they confessed that there is no expresse place of Scripture that commands their worship they confessed there is no example amongst the Fathers for their adoration but rather against them and in these confessions they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and practise and in our worshipping of God in spirit and truth they acknowledge the antiquitie of our Religion and the visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Lastly touching Indulgences and Pardons they confessed that their Indulgences now vsed haue no authoritie from Scriptures or Fathers and in this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and consequently the Indulgences which wee vse for no other end then the mitigation and relaxation of punishment to haue had antiquitie and visibilitie in the Church long before Luthers dayes If these witnesses had been ignorant or excommunicate persons in their owne Church or had they witnessed the truth in ceremonies and things doubtfull there might bee some plea why their testimonies should not be admitted but when the points in question are Articles of their owne Creed when they are witnessed by Popes by Councels by Cardinals by Bishops by learned Doctors and Schoolemen in their owne Church in our behalfe and against their owne Tenets I see no cause why I should not demand iudgement in defence of our Church and triall of our cause It is the law of God and man Ex ore tuo I will iudge thee out of thine owne mouth and from this decree and their owne confessions vpon record I call men and Angels to witnesse that they haue denyed antiquitie and vniuersality to the Articles of their own Creed and haue resolued the grand question touching our Church before Luther that it was in Christ in the Apostles in the Fathers in the bosome of the Ancient Church long before Luthers dayes Sect. 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish OF what strength and force is truth it appeares by this that she extorts a full and ample testimony of her doctrine from her sworne enemies and yet for further proofe of our cause I will giue another summons to the prime men euen of their grand Inquest who without partialitie will testifie in our behalfe that our Church is built vpon a more stable and sure foundation then the Papacie and that our doctrine is more fruitfull and profitable and euery way more safe and comfortable for the beleefe of euery Christian and the saluation of the beleeuer Touching the certaintie of faith it is Bellarmines confession Bellar. de Jnstit lib. 3. cap. 8. None can be certaine of the certaintie of faith that hee doth receiue a true Sacrament for as much as the Sacrament cannot be made without the intention of the Minister and none can see another mans intention This confession being layed for a positiue ground of their Religion the Church of Rome hath ouer throwne in one Tenet all certaintie of true faith To begin with the Sacrament of Baptisme If the Priests intention faile by their doctrine the Insant is not baptized he is but as a Heathen out of the Church and consequently in the state of damnation Looke vpon their Sacrament of Orders it is the confession of learned Bellar mine Bellar. de Milit Eccles ca. 10. ad secundum If we consider in Bishops their power of Ordination and Iurisdiction we haue no more then a Morall certaintie that they are true Bishops and there he giues the reason for it Because the Sacrament of Orders depends vpon the Intention of the ordeiner Looke vpon the Sacrament of Matrimony and of this there is no certaintie because it doth depend vpon the Intention of the Minister and if he faile in his Intention at the time of solemnization the married people liue all their dayes in adulterie so that by their owne confession there is no certaintie of Christianitie by Baptisme no certaintie of their Sacrament of Orders and consequently no certaintie of succession in person which they so much magnifie in their Church besides if in the whole succession of Popes and Pastors the Intention of any one Priest did faile either in Baptisme or in Orders all succeeding generations that ordaine and consecrate both Priest and people are become vtterly voide and of none effect He that is bound vpon a curse to beleeue seuen Sacraments and yet is not certaine of any one must be saued by an implicit faith and yet it is to be feared for want of their Priests intention the poore ignorant soule doth sometimes worship a peece of bread because the consecration of Christs body depends say they vpon the intention of the Priest and no man doth know another mans intention Againe touching their Inuocation of Saints they are vncertain whether the Saints do heare their prayers they are vncertaine whether some they pray vnto be Saints in heauen or Diuels in hell Touching the first Biel. in C●n. Missae Lect. 28. Pet. Lomb. Senten lib. 4. dist 45. It is not certaine saith Biel but it may seeme probable that God reuealeth vnto Saints all those suits which men present vnto them and saith Peter Lombard It is not incredible that the soules of Saints heare the prayers of the suppliants Here is nothing but probabilitie and vncertaintie and yet admit it were more then probable that they did heare our prayers yet there is no certaintie that al such are Saints which are canonized by the Romane Church Accedit quod miracula quae ab Ecclesiae suscipiuntur in Canonizationibus sanctorum quae tamen maximè authentica sunt cum humano testimonio innitantur non omnino certa sunt quoniā c. Caret in epusc de concep Virg. Mar. ca. 1. Fidei Christianae certitudo non humano mor● certa esse debet sed infallibile omnino debet habere testimonium Caret ibid. It cannot be knowne infallibly saith Caietan that the miracles whereon the Church groundeth the Canonization of Saints bee true by reason the credit thereof depends on the reports of men who may deceiue others and bee deceiued themselues And vpon this vncertaintie Saint Austin complained in his dayes That many were tormented with the diuell who were worshipped by men on earth Whose reason and authoritie was so vndoubtedly true Bellar. de sanct Beat. lib. 1. c. 9. that Bellarmine had no way to auoide it but with a Fortasse c. Peraduenture saith he it is none of Austins and yet if Bellarmines answer were true which is but
Editione expunctus est docuit seclusa Ecclesi●e authoritate Verba illa Hoc est corpus meum ad veritatem hanc confirmandā non sufficere Suarez Tom. 3. disp 46. §. Tertio the words This is my body doe not sufficiently prooue Transubstantiation what saith Paul the fift to this Deleatur let that passage be no more printed amongst Caietans workes Vdalricus Bishop of Augusta writes a whole Epistle touching the lawfulnesse of Priests marriage what say the Romanists to this Deleatur let that whole Epistle bee blotted out Bertram wrote a booke of the body blood of Christ opposite to the doctrine of Transubstantiation what say the Inquisitors to this Jud. Gaspar Quir●ga fol. 149. Jdem Ibidē Totus liber penitus auferatur away with that whole booke Anselme or the author of the booke for baptizing and visiting the sicke saith Doest thou beleeue that our Lord Iesus Christ died for our saluation and that there is no means to be saued by our own merits Quiroga p. 149. Sandoual Roxas Anno 1612. what say the Inquisitors to this Deleatur let it not be spoken at the visitation of the sicke Cassan in Hymnis Eccl. p. 179. vt Cypr. Miserecordiam adeptus sum i. e. Miserecordiam merui Annotatio illa de vocabulo Merendi tota Deleatur Ind. Expurg Belg. p. 25. The word Merit saith Cassander amongst the Ancients is almost the same as to obtaine what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur let that obseruation of the word Merit bee cleane strucken out Polydore Virgil saith almost all the Ancient Fathers condemned Images for feare of Idolatrie what say the Romanists to this doctrine Deleatur from the beginning of that Chapter to the leafe Index librorum Prohibitorum pag. 725. Lex per praesentes c. let it be blotted out Langus saith the substance of bread and wine remaine after Consecration what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur Ind. Expurg Belg. fol. 70. from the pag. 179. to the pag. 199. let all bee blotted out Ferus saith Ridiculum est It is ridiculous that some will haue Cephas for the head In their latter edition printed at Rome 1577. they haue left out the words Ridiculum est and say some will haue Cephas for the Head Non oportet Christianos Ecclesia Dei derelictâ abire atque Angelos nominare Concil Laodic can 35. Binius Non oportet Christianos derelictâ Ecclesia Dei abire ad Angulos Merlin fol. 68. edit 1530. Crabbe fol. 226 edit Anno 1538 Lastly the ancient Councell of Laodicea decreed Anno 368. Wee ought not to leaue the Church of God and inuocate Angels In the same Councell published by Merlin and Crabbe by transmutation of a letter we are taught to say Wee ought not to leaue the Church of God and haue recourse to Angles or corners and thus are Angeli become Anguli Angels are become Angles or blinde corners least so faire an euidence of an ancient Councell should be produced against Inuocation of Angels But what these men haue gained by purging and razing of true Euidences their late Diuinity Reader at Louaine will giue his fellow Romanists a good account After I was appointed saith he to put in execution the tyrannicall decree of the Inquisitors Sed ô incredibilis in me Dei opt max. beneficentia post quā expurgatorij Indicis quem tyrannisante Albano Benedictus Arias Montanu●in piorū vircrum lucubrationes iniurias conceperat exequutor inter primos factus sexcentas cōtrà falsa doctrinae Pontificiae capita c. Henricus Boxhornius li. 3. de Euch. li. 3 Riuet c. 12. pag. 89. and had noted sixe hundred seuerall passages to bee spunged and blotted out which animaduersions of mine I wished I could haue washed away with my teares and bloud my heart at length being smitten and mine eyes opened by the mercie of my God I plainely perceiued abhomination in the Papacie an Idoll in the Temple Tyrannie in the commonwealth poyson and infection in Religion And thus this learned professor sometimes a votarie to the Church of Rome from the obseruation of those purging Indices makes protestation against their practises withal became a true conuert to the Protestant faith Sect. 14. Our Aduersaries conuicted of their defence of a desperate cause by their blasphemous exception against the Scripture it selfe VVHen therfore we see with the Louanian Doctor poyson in their Religion and tirannie in their common-wealth when we apparantly discerne the Abhomination of desolation stand in the holy place Mat. 24. let vs flie saith Chrysostome to the mountaines of the Scriptures But can any man be persuaded that these men after their purging and condemning all sorts of writers will at last come to the triall of the Scriptures Are we not all eye witnesses that Christ and his Apostles are called in question at the Popes Assises and there arraigned and condemned of obscuritie insufficiency in their Gospel Is not the sacred Bible ranked inter libros prohibitos Causabons answer to the Ep. of C. Peron pa. 38. hath it not the first place in the Catalogue of books prohibited doth not their owne Agrippa proclaime it to the shame of his own religion that the Inquisitors deale most cruelly with the Protestants concerning their triall by the Scriptures Agrippa de Vanit Scien c. ●6 For saith hee If the partie examined shall offer to proue his opinion by Scriptures then with swelling and angrie countenance they tell him that he is not now to deale with schollers in their Schooles but with Iudges before their Tribunall and therefore hee must answer directly whether hee will stand to the decrees of the Romane Church or not If hee refuse then they conclude saying they are not to dispute with him by arguments and Scriptures but with fire and faggot Now can any man imagine why these men should bee so angrie with Christ and his Apostles can they say the word of God is mutable and vncertaine or can they say it is subiect vnto alteration and neede an Index Expurgatorius No surely these are but peccadilioes small faults which are incident to Fathers Schoolemen and the Polemicall Authors of these times but you shall heare them speake in their owne sense a Caracteres mortui wherin they abound for I tremble to speake it a Lindan l. 3 Stroncatum c. 2. c. 6. b Littera mortua occidens The Scriptures say they are dead Characters a dead and killing letter b Idem Panopl l. 1. c. 22. without life c Muta inanis quae nec sentit nec intelligit which neither knowes nor vnderstands a meere shell without a kernell a nose of waxe a delphich sword c Idē l. 5. c. 4. d Merum putamen sine nucleo a leaden rule a shoe fit for any foot Sybillas prophecies d Idem lib. 1. c. 6. Sphinx his riddles e Nasus cerous and matter