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A84808	Saul's errand to Damascus: with his packet of letters from the high-priests, against the disciples of the Lord. Or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancanshire, who call themselves ministers of the gospel, breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers. Together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced, against the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them. Published to no other end, but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages.	Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Lawson, John, of Lancaster.	1653 (1653)	Wing F1894; Thomason E689_17; ESTC R206937	30,408	48

Heaven or Hell but through death the wicked shall be turned into hell and all them that forget God there to be tormented there is a hell thou shalt finde it Heaven is Gods Throne and heavenly notions within shall be shaken for God is pure and nothing that is unclean shall stand before him and he hath said he will dwell in man Qu. Whether the ministration of the Ministery by man is to continue till the end or not Answ The ministration of the world is the Ministery of man and doth not lead to an end but keeps in time and that must have an end for it is not of God The Ministery of God is to draw people up to himself but that is not of man nor by man nor according to man for Paul was made a Minister according to the will of God who had not received it of man neither was it taught him of man and was a Minister of the Spirit but the Ministers of the world receive their learning at Oxford and Cambridge and are taught of men and speak a divination of their own brain which is conjuring and bewitch the people with those things which are carnal as to sprinkle Infants and tell them of a Sacrament which there is no Scripture for and saying they are the Ministers of Christ and act those things which he forbids as to have the chiefest place in the Assemblies the uppermost room at feasts the greetings in markets and to be called of men Masters and with pretence make long prayers which Christ forbids and profess and say they are the Ministers of Christ wherein they shew themselves to be Antichrists And see if thou do not uphold these Antichrists and say they are the Ministers of Christ Qu. Whether the written Word I mean the Scriptures be the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes or not Answ The written Word is not the power of God nor the Scriptures are not the salvation but he that doth believe hath the life of them Who is born of God shall never die as it is written he that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God hath the witness in himself that God is the cause of mans salvation and not the Scripture nor the Letter James Nayler's Answer and Declaration touching some things charged upon him by the men aforesaid HAving heard of divers untruths cast upon me by some of the Priests in their high places though I stand only to the Lord in respect of my self yet lest any that love the truth should be led on by these false reports to speak evil of these things they know not I shall lay open the truth as it is revealed in me touching those things whereof I have been falsly accused Jude 1● First Concerning Jesus Christ That he is the eternal Word of God Revel 19.13 1 Joh. 1.2 3 4 5. Joh. 1.14 by whom all things were made and are upholden which were before all time but manifested to the world in time for the recovery of lost man Which Word became flesh and dwelt amongst the Saints who is the same yesterday to day and for ever who did and doth dwell in the Saints who suffered and rose again and ascended into heaven and is set at the right hand of God Eph. 1.20 to whom all power is given in heaven and in earth who filleth all places is the light of the world but known to none but to those that receive and follow him Joh. 8.12 and those he leads up to God out of all the Wayes Works and Worships of the world by his pure light in them 2 Thes 2.8 whereby he reveals the man of sin and by his power casts him out and so prepares the bodies of the Saints a fit Temple for the pure God to dwel in with whom dwels no unclean thing and thus he reconciles God and man and the image of God 1 Cor. 3.16 17. which is in purity and holiness is renewed and the image of Satan which is all sin and uncleanness is defaced and none can witness Redemption 2 Cor. 5.18 19. Col. 3.10 further then Christ is thus revealed in them to set them free from sin which Christ I witness to be revealed in me in measure Gal. 1.16 2 Cor. 13.5 Colos 1.27 2. 2 Pet. 1.20 21. Concerning the Scriptures That they are a true Declaration of that Word which was in them that spoke them forth and are of no private interpretation but were given forth to be read and fulfilled in the Saints Rev. 22.18 as they were given forth by the Holy Ghost without adding or diminishing and were not given forth for men to make a Trade on to get mony by but as they are they are profitable for Doctrine 2 Tim 3.16 17. for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in righteonsness that the man of God may be perfect thorowly furnished unto every good work But they who trade in the Letter and are ignorant of the Mystery deny all perfection and none can rightly understand the Scriptures but they who read them with the same Spirit that gave them forth 1 Cor. 2.14 15. for the natural man understands not the things of God for they are spiritually discerned 3. Concerning Baptism The true Baptism is that of the Spirit with the Holy Ghost and with fire Baptized by one Spirit into one Body not the washing away the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ Acts 1.5 without which no other Baptism can save us Gal. 3.27 they being but figures or shadows but this Baptism of Christ is the substance whereby we are Baptized into his death and those that are baptized into Christ have put on Christ 4. Concerning the Lords Supper Matth. 26.26 28. Joh. 6.51 53 54 55 56. 1 Cor. 11.24 25. Col. 2.10 The true Supper of the Lord is the Spiritual eating and drinking of the flesh and blood of Christ Spiritually which the Spiritual man only eateth and is thereby nourished up unto eternal life without which eating there can be no life in the creature profess what you will And all who eat of this bread and drink of this cup have real communion in Christ the head and also one with another as members and are of one heart and one minde a compleat body in Christ Now the world who take only the outward signes 1 Cor. 11.27 28 29. and are not brought in discerning of the Lords body eat and drink damnation to themselves and become guilty of the body and blood of Christ and calls this a Communion but lives in envy strife and debate fighting and going to Law one with another for earthly things 5. Concerning the Resurrection Joh. 5.29 That all shall arise to give an account and receive at the last day according to their works 1 Cor. 15.38 1 Cor. 15.42 43 44. whether good or evil

is death and killeth and all that do study to raise a living thing out of a dead to raise the Spirit out of the Letter are Conjurers and draw points and reasons Jer. 23.16 Jer. 27.9 10. and so speak a divination of their own brain they are Conjurers and Diviners and their teaching is from Conjuration which is not spoken from the mouth of the Lord and the Lord is against all such and who are of God are against all such for that doctrine doth not profit the people at al for it stands not in the councel of God but is a doctrine of the Devil and draws people from God but he that speaks from the mouth of the Lord turnes people from their wickedness Heb. 8.11 but that Ministery which God hath not sent and that Assembly must be disaffected for the Lord is coming to teach his people himself by his Spirit Object George Fox said the Scripture was carnal Answ The Letter of the Scripture is carnal and the Letter is death and killeth but the Spirit giveth life Heb. 7.16 which was in them that gave forth the Scriptures and that I witness which is eternal and not carnal for the Jewes which had the Letter persecuted Jesus Christ the Substance and so do you now which have the Letter and not the Substance there were Ministers of the Letter then and Ministers of the Spirit so is there is now the same Christ being made manifest Col. 1.27 is unknown to the world for the whole world lyeth in wickedness and Christ Jesus is a Mystery to the world and is hid though you may profess him because the Letter speaketh of him 1 Joh. 3.8 but ye persecute him where he is made manifest and where he is made manifest the works of the Devil are destroyed and there he speaks and is King and is the way and is the truth 1 Joh. 5.12 Rom. 8.11 1 Cor. 6.17 2 Cor. 6.16 and is the life and he that hath the Son hath life and he that hath not the Son hath not life and he that hath the same Spirit that raised up Jesus Christ is equal with God and the Scripture saith that God will dwell in man and walk in man as Jesus Christ which is the mystery hath passed before so the same Spirit takes upon it the same seed and is the same where it is made manifest According to the flesh I am the son of Abraham according to the Spirit the son of God saith Christ Col. 1.27 Heb. 2.16 All the plotting of the Priests is and ever was against Christ where he is made manifest and the Beast shall make war with the Saints and with the Lamb but the Lamb shall get the victory praises praises be to our God for ever for evermore Object Richard Hubethorne writ that Christs coming in the flesh was but a figure Answ Christ in his people is the substance of all figures types and shadows fulfilling them in them and setting them free from them but as he is held forth in the Scripture-Letter without them and in the flesh without them he is their example or figure which is both one that the same things might befulfilled in them that was in Christ Jesus 1 Pet. 2.21 1 Pet. 4.1 for even hereunto were ye called because Christ hath suffered for us leaving us an example that we should follow his steps forasmuch as Christ hath suffered for us arm your selves likewise with the same mind 1 Pet. 1.15 Christ was our example in suffering and in holiness and as he which hath called you is holy Joh. 13.15 so be ye holy in all manner of conversation because it is written Be ye holy as I am holy He is our example in humility I have given you an example saith Christ that ye should do even as I have done unto you And as he is so are we in this world He is our forerunner Captain of our Salvation and in all things our example Tit. 16. As they have done unto me so shall they do unto you But all they who have not Christ dwelling in them go about to persecute him in all them in whom he is made manifest they neither follow him as an example themselves nor suffer others to follow him as an example and walk in the same steps but deny him both as the substance and example of his people but they who are taught of him do confess him both as he is the substance of all things and their example in all things for without me ye can do nothing saith Christ and it is so I witness it And as for James Millner though his minde did run out from his condition and from minding that light of God which is in him whereby the world takes occasion to speak against the truth and many friends stumble at it yet there is a pure seed in him Object Leonard Fell said that Christ had no Body but his Church Answ There is one Body and one Spirit Eph. 4.4 Col. 1.18 2 Cor. 5.19 even as ye are called into one hope of your calling and Christ Jesus is the head of the Body the Church and ye are made free from sin by the Body of Christ and Christ came to redeem his Church God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself for his body's sake Col. 1.24 Eph. 5.30 32. Eph. 22.23 which is his Church For we are members of his Body of his Flesh and of his Bones this is a great Mystery but I speak concerning Christ and his Church And hath put all things under his feet and gave him to be the head over all things to the Church which is his body The fulness of him that filleth all in all In whom also we are builded up together for an habitation of God through the Spirit W W. More Objections against George Fox charged upon him by the Contrivers of the foresaid Petition and Answered by him as followeth Object 1. THat he did affirm that he had the Divinity essentially in him Answ 2 Cor. 6.1 Eph. 4.6 2 Pet. 1.4 For the word essential it is an expression of their own but that the Saints are the Temples of God and God doth dwell in them that the Scriptures do witness and if God dwell in them then the Divinity dwels in them and the Scripture saith Ye shall be partakers of the divine nature and this I witness but where this is not they cannot witness it Object 2. That both Baptism and the Lords Supper are unlawful Answ As for that word unlawful it was not spoken by me but the Baptism of Infants I deny and there is no Scripture that speaks of a Sacrament but that Baptism that is into Christ with one spirit Gal. 3.27 into one body that I confess according to Scripture and the Lords Supper I confess and that the bread the Saints break Iob. 6.53 55. is the body of Christ and that cup which they drink is the

blood of Christ this I witness Object 3. He did disswade men from reading the Scriptures telling them that it is carnal Answ For disswading men from reading the Scriptures that is false for they were given to be read as they are but not to make a Trade upon 1 Cor. 2.10 16. the Letter is carnal and killeth but that which gave it forth is spiritual eternal and giveth life and this I witness Oject 4. That he was equal with God Answ Heb. 2.11 That was not so spoken but that He that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are of one and the Saints are all one in the Father and the Son of his flesh and of his bone this the Scripture doth witness And ye are the sons of God Eph. 5.30 and the Father and the Son are one and they that are joyned to the Lord are one spirit and they that are joyned to an Harlot are one flesh Object That God taught deceit Answ That is false and was never spoken by me God is pure Object That the Scriptures are Antichrist Answ That is false but that they which profess the Scriptures and live not in the life and power of them as they did that gave them forth that I witness to be Antichrist Object That he was the Judg of the world 1 Cor. 6.2 3. Answ That the Saints shall judge the world the Scripture witness it whereof I am one and I witness the Scripture fulfilled Object That he was as upright as Christ Answ Those words were not so spoken by me 1 Joh. 4.17 2 Cor. 5.21 Ioh. 17.21 22. Eph. 4.11 12 13. but that as he is so are we in this present world That the Saints are made the righteousness of God That the Saints are one in the Father and the Son that we shall be like him 1 Joh. 3.2 and that all teaching which is given forth by Christ is to bring the Saints to perfection even to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ This the Scripture doth witness and this I witness Where Christ dwels must not he speak in his Temple Quaeries propounded to George Fox by some of the Contrivers of the Petition and by him Answered Querie WHether there be one individual God distinguished into the Father Son and Holy Ghost or not Answ Herein thou wouldest know whether God be individual yea or no which is but a busie minde for had'st thou the witness in thy self thou wouldst know what he is but the Heathen know not God and all that know him not are Heathen living in the wicked imaginations of their own hearts and that is thy condition For God is a Spirit and none know him but the Son and he to whom the Son is revealed the Son and Word is one He that hath ears to hear let him hear what the Spirit saith for thou natural man thou know'st not the things of God Qu. Whether a believer be justified by Christs righteousness imputed yea or no Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God is justified by Christ alone without imputation Qu. Whether he that believeth that Christ hath taken away his sin is clean without sin in this life as Christ himself or not Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God sins not neither can he sin because his seed remaineth in him as he is so are we in this present evil world Qu. Whether a believer be without all sin in this life or not Answ Christ being made manifest is made manifest to take away sin and in him is no sin at all he that abideth in him sins not he that sins is of the Devil and hath not seen him neither known him herein are the children of God made manifest and the children of the Devil All you that read these Queries read these things in your selves whether ye be the children of God or the children of the Devil and whether ye understand what ye write yea or no. Qu. Whether his works as well as his person be perfectly holy and good or no Answ A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit and if the root be holy the branches will be holy also and every one that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous But as for that person it is a busie minde in thee that askst thou knowst not what for God is no respecter of persons he that respecteth persons commits sin and he that commits sin transgresseth the Law Qu. Whether Saints in this life without any addition hereafter are perfectly just perfectly holy compleatly glorious in this life and are not capable of any addition after death in the least degree but only of manifestation Answ If that thou know'st what a Saint is thou would'st know a Saints life for they passed thorow death to life but thou art yet alive to sin and dead to righteousness see if it be not so but he that is dead to sin is alive to righteousness and lives in God and God in him The Lord is our righteousness and he saith Be ye holy as I am holy for without holiness no man shall see the Lord. Be not deceived God will not be mocked Thou hypocrite dissemble not with him he that is perfectly holy is perfectly just where this is revealed there needs no addition for the man of God is perfect Qu. Whether the two Sacraments Baptism and the breaking of Bread ought necessarily to continue in the Church or not Answ Thou askest thou know'st not what concerning two Sacraments which there is no Scripture for Thou askest a question which is an addition to the Scripture and thou that doest add the plagues of God are added to thee Who come into the true Church are baptized with one Spirit into one body but as for sprinkling Infants there 's no Scripture for it I deny it in the true Church of God there is no talk of such carnal things Thou Sot the bread which the Saints break is of the body of Christ he is the bread of life The Church is not the steeple-house but the Church is in God and those that eat the bread of life live for ever the Church is in God and the bread of life is there and it shall continue for ever Qu. Whether Christ in the flesh be a figure or not and if a figure how and in what Answ Christ is the substance of all figures and his flesh is a figure for every one passeth through the same way as he did who comes to know Christ in the flesh there must be a suffering with him before there be a rejoycing with him Christ is an example for all to walk after and if thou knew'st what an example is thou wouldst know what a figure is to come up to the same fulness Qu. Whether there be any heaven or hell for the Elect or Reprobate after death but in man in this life or not Answ There is no knowledge of