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A42580 A vindication of the principles of the author of the answer to the compiler of the nubes testium from the charge of popery in answer to a late pretended letter from a dissenter to the divines of the Church of England : as deceivers, and yet true, 2 Cor. 6. 8. Gee, Edward, 1657-1730. 1688 (1688) Wing G464; ESTC R3563 22,276 42

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all that he did pray for I am no more able to defend it than I could the Prayers of any man whom God had blessed with Children and Heirs to his name and his Estate if he should be importunate with God that he would bestow the blessing of Children upon him and bestow in his mercy but one Son upon him to keep up his family and his name I do not mention these things to expose those two venerable Fathers but to vindicate the Practice of my Mother-Church in relation to these things I think those that dye in the Lord have no need of our Prayers and that those that dye in his disfavonr can receive no benefit by them The fifteenth Article against me is that I say that it is the Opinion of his Church that Christs Body is really present in the Eucharist This charge is as ridiculous as any of the rest for if the real presence be the Opinion of our Church how comes it to be one of my Articles of Popery Could this unreasonable Adversary have shewn that the Real Presence is not the Opinion of our Church but onely of the Church of Rome and that I was a believer of such a real Presence his charge against me of a Popish Opinion herein would have been most justly laid But he neither offers to prove that our Church is not of that Opinion nor is he at all able to do it and yet I must be a Papist notwithstanding I believe with our Church whose real Presence is far from looking like Popery since she hath so often and so fully declared that by real here is only meant a spiritual not corporeal or natural Presence of Christs Body Nay in that very place where I said it was the Opinion of our Church that Christs Body was really present in the Eucharist I gave also the reason of that Opinion because we believe as my words (c) p. 65. there are that the consecrated Elements do by the Appointment of God communicate to every faithful Receiver the Body and Blood of Christ which is no more than what S. Paul hath said in other words before us when he tells the Corinthians that the Bread which he and they broke was a Communion of or did communicate to them the Body of Christ and that the Cup of Blessing was a Communion of the Blood of Christ 1 Cor. 10.16 The last Article of Popery against me is of the same nature with the former that I do confess That that consecrated Food is the Flesh and Blood of Jesus Christ I do own that I did grant those words as taken out of Justin Martyr but had my Sly Adversary but had the Honesty to have put down the words that do immediately follow there I am sure that this would either not have been put down as an Article of my Popery or that my Accuser would have been hist at by all men for his folly in charging me with it since immediately after those words I did express my self thus We have already granted that it is to wit that the Consecrated Food is the Flesh and Blood of Jesus Christ however to corroborate what we said above it is evident to a Demonstration that this consecrated Food was still Bread and not transubstantiated into the natural Body and Blood of Christ because S. Justin says at the same time and in the same sentence that our Bodys are Nourished by that very consecrated Food to affirm which of the Natural Flesh of Christ is impious and detestable Thus I have gone through and fully answered this large Charge of Popery against me and since he was not satisfied in the Letter to set them onely once down but does for the greater security of effecting his designs against me repeat them in short before he ends his Letter I will do the same here by my Answers unto them The first charge therefore in three Articles about the Pope and the fourth about Tradition I have shewn to be as Notorious and Scandalous a Falsification of a mans words and meaning as the greatest Cheat in the world could be guilty of that the six next can be called Popery onely by the same Figure that we would call the Belief of Christs Resurrection Popery because all Christians in the world believe it as well as the Church of Rome which is a thing so horridly foolish as no one but he that hath more Malice than Wit or Logick in his head could be supposed guilty of and for the last six they are most falsely nicknamed Popery and most ridiculously laid to my particular charge except this Malicious Adversary can shew that to make a thing Popery it is necessary that it be believed and practised by all Churches that are against as well as for the Church of Rome and that I am the Generality of Christians or at least the whole Church of England If ever Rage and Folly Malice and Weakness were equally discovered to the world it certainly was in this wretched Letter wherein all the care seems to be either to pervert my words and falsifie my meaning or to put down that as said by me which was not so as meant by me that was not so and as said by me in particular which was common unto all Christians Notwithstanding this injurious usage of me yet I cannot but thank the Representer for it since he hath by this Letter discovered to the world what sort of person he is and thereby given warning to the world to have a care how they believe One that will be guilty of such dishonest things He may write on as long as he pleases but this usage of me will I question not prevent his doing any mischief by it since Men are for reading those Books onely wherein they have reason to expect Truth Candor and Integrity and are always upon their guard against if they vouchsafe to read an Author that can and does write without any concern for Truth Conscience or Honesty I will before I conclude make one short address unto the Dissenters that they would have a care how they suffer themselves to be imposed upon in these things I know this Author makes it his great care to keep them still aloof off the Church of England and therefore is upon every occasion nay without any occasion still putting them in mind of the late Execution of Penal Laws and how they were harassed by them But can they believe after all this that this man is their real Friend whose Principles and Practices look quite another way I think his affixing this most false and injurious Letter unto some of them is a fair warning how much real kindness he hath for them who was so very desirous to have this Letter thought by all people to be theirs which is made up of nothing else but folly falshood and slander What is this but to have the world to believe that the Dissenters are still the same foolish false and slanderous people that most of his Church did use to think them and I am affraid do still continue to do I will trouble them no further but request this at their hands that they would make it their Prayer to God that they never may be guilty of the dishonouring of God by affording their helping hand to the ruine of the Protestant Religion FINIS