our Sauiour Except a man bee borne of water and the spirite he cannot enter into the kingdome of heauen Iohn 3. 5. May it not aswell bee answered that children also are excluded here as in the other place for the words are in both places generallie spoken without exception Agayne Christ sayth except yee eate if this may be done in vow and defire that is spiritually which wee affirme and graunt then is it not meant of the sacramentall eating onely as the Papistes beare vs in hande and so they are contrary to themselues Lastly if it bee necessarie to receiue the Eucharist eyther actually and indeede or in vow and desire which is most true There is the like necessitie thereof as of baptisme For the Rhemistes confesse as much that they before God are accepted as baptized that depart this life with vowe and desire to haue this sacrament but by some remediles necessitie could not obtaine it Annot. Iohn 3. Sect. 2. Thus baptisme by their owne confession is prooued to be no more necessarie than the other Sacrament and so are they taken with their owne wiles Against the reall presence in the Eucharist amongst other arguments wee do bring foorth this S. Paul in diuers places calleth the Sacrament bread after consecration as 1. Corinth 10. 16. The bread which we breake is it not the communion of the body of Christ And chap. 11. 26. As often as ye shall eate this bread drinke this cup ye shewe the Lords death till hee come The Apostle calleth it bread Ergo it is bread not the bodie flesh or bloud of Christ. To this argument they make vs this aunswere The Apostle calleth it bread because it was bread before or because it appeareth to be bread not that it is bread Bellarm. de Eucharist lib. 1. cap. 14. res ad loc 13. Yea but the Apostle maketh mention together both of the bread and cup If it be called bread because of the appearance onely then by the like reason so is the cup and as there is no bread in deede so there shalbe no cup. Againe saith hee The bread which wee breake but the shape or forme of bread cannot be broken but the substance Neither will they say that Christes bodie is diuided or broken therefore it is true bread which the Apostle so calleth Lastly if they like this speech of the Apostle that hee should call it bread after consecration how coÌ„meth it to passe that they are afraide to call it bread in the Canon of the Masse but the bodie of Christ only It should seem therfore by their practise that they mislike the apostles phrase maner of speech That the Eucharist ought to be ministred in both kindes we confirme it out of that place Iohn 6. 53. Except ye eate the flesh of the sonne of man and drinke his bloud ye haue no life in you which our aduersaries expound of the Eucharist Their answere is this that here the coniunction or particle and must be taken after the phrase of Scripture for the Distinctiue vel either as if the sense were this except you either eate or drink Bellarm. de Eucharist lib. 4. cap. 25. By this reason they make it a thing indifferent either to eate or to drinke to doe any one of them and so as the people doe onely eate in the Sacrament amongst them not drink the contrarie custome also may be brought in for the people to drinke onely and not to eate which I thinke they wil be loath to graunt Againe where they presse vs for the necessitie of baptisme with that place Iohn 3. 5. Except a man be borne of water and the Spirite wee can aunswer them with their owne words And in this place is taken for either vel as if it were said Euery man must be borne either of water or of the spirit Although we haue better answer are not driuen to vse any such shift yet thus they do make rods for themselues to be whipt withall Whereas we thus reason that the Eucharist ought to bee ministred in both kindes because the death of Christ cannot otherwise be liuely shewed foorth but both by eating and drinking in remembrance of Christ The Iesuite boldly aunswereth that a sufficient commemoration may be made by receiuing onely in one kinde Bellarm. de Sacramen Eucharist lib. 4 cap. 27. cleane contrarie to Saint Paul who saith As often as ye shall eate this bread and drinke this cup ye shewe the Lords death till he come 1. Corin. 11. 26. To remember and shewe foorth the death of Christ hee requireth receiuing in both kindes That the marriage of Ministers is authorized by the word of God wee proue out of S. Paul 1. Timoth. 3. 11. who hauing first described the office of Bishops Pastors of the Church and what maner of men they ought to be commeth afterward to set foorth the qualities and conditions that should be in their wiues That they should be honest sober and faithfull The Iesuite here celleth vs that the Apostle meaneth such as had beene their wiues before they were ordained lib. 1. de Clericis cap. 20. Ans. I wil aske them then one question Their former wiues maried before did they renouÌ„ce them afterward or retaine theÌ„ If they renounced them what need had the Apostle to be so carefull in setting downe rules and precepts for their wiues for it was no more to them how they demeaned themselues than other women If they retained them in the name of their wiues they either liued together or apart not apart for the Apostle prescribeth an order for the Ministers house children v. 4. But there is no reason that the mother should want the comfort of her children though shee enioyd not the companie of her husband It is therefore most like the mother liued with her children and the children with their father and where els then should their mother liue but with their father If then they liued in one house together how then is shee not now his wife as freely for all honest purposes and ends of mariage as before Who seeth not now how weakely these things hang together And that it is as lawful for the Ministers of Gods worde to marrie aâ—ter their calling to the Ministerie as before we shew it by these words of the Apostle Haue we not power to lead about a sister awife 1. Cor. 9. 5. Their answer is that it must be read thus a sister a womaÌ„ for certain deuout womeÌ„ folowed the Apostles which ministred vnto them of their substance Rhemist Annot. in hunc locum Ans. But this were a superfluous speech to say a sister a woman whereas it had been enough to say sister which word also expresseth the sexe And seeing the Apostles had wiues of their own it is an absurd thing to imagine that they would choose rather to go in the companie of strange women their owne wiues being more necessarie to attend on them more fit for
as they vse in their Eucharist not a spanne in breadth without destruction of the partes and dimensions of the bodie Fourthly that one and the same body of Christ in the same instant may bee sayd to bee Sursum deorsum Aboue and belowe Remotum propinquū Neare vnto the earth and farre distant from it that it may bee in motion in one place and yet rest and bee at quiet in an other as the soule in the body as it is in the feete is neere to the earth as in the head it is further off Bellarm. de sacram Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 4. These are absurdities contrary to the rule of reason that contradictorie speeches should in one instant be true of the same bodie or subiect And what is heresie if this bee not to resemble and compare the fleshe of Christ to a soule or spirit that as the soule is in the body in no certayne place but euery-where so the flesh of Christ should bee in the world for this followeth of the Iesuites comparison betweene the soule of man and the flesh of Christ. 5 Corpus Christi incipit esse in altari sayth Bellarmine per conuersionem panis in ipsum The bodie of Christ beginneth to be in the altar by the cōuersion or turning of the bread into his body Lib. 3. de sacram cap. 4. What great blasphemie is this to affirme that Christes fleshe is made of bread for these are their owne wordes that the bread is not annihilate that is turned into nothing but into the body of Christ. And Bellarmine also confesseth that Christes body in the Eucharist is made of bread as the wine was of water by our Sauiour Christ Iohn 2. But in that myracle it is certayne the water was the matter whereof the wine was made for otherwise Christ would not haue bid the seruauntes fill the water-pottes with water if hee had purposed to create wine of nothing rather then to chaunge water into wine Bellarm. de sacram Eucharist lib. 4. cap. 24. Thus Christ by popish diuinitie shall haue a breaden body 6 That after the words of consecration there remayne onely the accidentes of bread and wine as their colour taste roundnesse and such like the substances of thē being changed And so they confesse against the rule of nature and reason grounded vpon scripture that accidentes haue a being and substance of their owne without a subiect Harding defens apolog 305. pag. And it is the generall opinion of all papistes So in their opinion there may bee the whitenesse roundnesse and taste of bread and yet no bread the rednesse tartnesse and other properties of wine and yet no wine If a man then should aske what round or whyte or red thing is this they can not say bread or wine for there is none left Neither will they say that the body of Christ is eyther white or red and thus are they driuen to their shiftes Whereupon some of their schoole-men haue sayde Accidentia illa sunt in aēre tanquam in subiecto The accidents are in the ayre as in their subiect De consecrat distinct 2. Species in glossa 7 They are the accidents of bread wine which are eaten chawen or rent by the teeth Bellarm. lib. 1. de sacram Eucharist cap. 11. respons ad argum 5. And which goe downe into the bellie and nourish and feed the body Harding defens apolog pag. 305. Thus by popish philosophie the accidentes of wine make a man drunke the accidentes of breade may feede a man and make him fatte without eyther bread or wine 8 That Christ would not haue the externall figures and shapes of the elementes chaunged but remayne still because man woulde abhorre to eate humane flesh in the proper shape Bellarm. lib. 3. de sacram Eucharist cap. 22. But what an absurde thing is this as though Christ would commaund any vnseemely thing or contrarie to humanitie And how could the Apostles commaunde the Gentiles to abstaine from strangled and from blood Actes 15. when as by their doctrine they did cate daily in their assemblies the raw flesh and blood of Christ 9 If the consecrate host as they cal it chaunce to putrisie and corrupt or to be burnt with fire or deuoured of a Mouse or any other vermine by the negligence of the priest they say it ceaseth to bee the body of Christ and that God in that verie instant supplyeth some other matter Bellarm. lib. 3. de Eucharist cap. 24. ad argum 6. Or else it returneth into the nature and substance of bread againe as other papists affirme Fox p. 496. So there is no lesse myracle wrought by occasion of the priestes negligence then was before by the words of consecration And it is not enough for God to worke miracles for men but euen for Mise also yet Bellarmine telleth vs very soberly that all this is done Sine miraculo without a miracle But how I pray you can bread be turned into flesh flesh againe into bread without a miracle 10 Yea some of them are not ashamed to write thus Si Canis vel porcus deglutiret hostiam consecratam integram non video quare corpus domini nō simul traijceretur in ventrem canis vel porci If a Dogge or a Hogge shoulde deuoure a whole consecrated host I see no thing to the contrarie but the body of Christ may passe withall into the bellie of the dogge or hogge Alexander Halens part 4. quaest 25. memb 1. And the allowed Glosse sayth Corpus Christi potest euomi The bodie of Christ may bee spued or vomited vp agayne De consecr distinct 2. Si quis in Gloss. 11 They suffer not the lay people to bee partakers of the Cuppe but to receiue in one kinde onely alleadging these and such like weighty causes as the danger of spilling sheading and shaking the bloud out of the cup or the souring or else sticking vppon mens beardes and such like Bellarm. lib. 4. de Eucharist cap. 24. Fox pag. 1150. Are not these thinke you matters of great moment and importance to frustrate and make voyde the institution of Christ Vnto these and such like absurdities of pope-catholike Religion wee may adioyne also the profound and weightie questions and deepe discourses of popish Diuines as to begin with their captaynes and ringleaders and first fathers of superstition Austine the Monke that was sent into Englande by Gregorie the first sent vnto his maister to know his iudgment and resolution in these and such like weightie matters First whether a woman great with child ought to be baptized Secondly after how many daies the children that are borne ought to be baptized Thirdly if she be in her monthly course after the disease of women whether then she may enter into the church receiue the communion 4 Whether it be lawfull for the man after company had with his wife before he be washed with water to enter into the Church These and such like graue questions this
either Augustine against the Heretikes of that age or Bernardâ— against the corruptions of his time Therefore to conclude this pointe wee say as not long since a darling of their owne saide yet with better right and more truelie I am sure then he Nowe the lawe of vpright dealing specially in Gods cause so requiring ye must pardon vs if as among husbandmen wee call a rake a rake a spade a spade a mattocke a mattocke so among diuines wee cal heresie heresie and likewise falshood lying slaundering craft hypocrisie blasphemie euerie such crime by his proper name without all glosing But leauing off here in this place further to make apologie or to seeke defence in this point for our selues which were a needelesse and superfluous labour the writinges of our learned and godly brethren are abroade to be seene and read I trust they shalbe founde neither to sauoure of so enuious a spirite nor to be mixed with such intemperate and vndigested humors as our aduersaries writinges are sawsed and powdred withall We will now proceede not further keeping the Reader in suspense to collect some flowers of popish eloquence and Rhetorike which their bookes are beawtified and adorned withall First wee will be so bould as walke into our countrie man M. Hardings Garden and there a little refresh our selues with the pleasaunt sent of his sweete smelling herbes And here in the verie enterance I find a nosegay alreadie gathered to my hand by that skilfull and cunning gardener not in name but in deede B. Iewell let vs take vp this posey and smell a litle thereon M. Harding therefore writing against B. Iewell cloyeth and ouerchargeth him with these and such like sweete speeches Who euer heard such an impudent man a most impudent lyer awicked slaunderer and all because he said with Laurentius Valla a Canon of Rome that Pope Celestiâ—â—s was a Nestorian Heretike Againe who euer saw so impudent a man what shal I say to this fellow fiefor shame man a minister of fables a minister of lies foolish ignorance shamelesse malice so ignorant so witlesse lewd wretches Iewish Heat henish shameles blasphemous villaines false ministers false harlots yee lie falsely yea yee lie for aduantage yee are impudent liers lewd liers heapes of lies nothing but lies and al is lies But what is the cause thinke you that this meeke spirited man should be so disquieted and make such outcryes against liers forsooth because Maister Iewel in one place leaueth out enim in a nother place hoc in an other place the Printer set downe schemate for schismate and such like is not here great cause thinke you to make a man thus to take on and to run out of his wittes Is not this asweete nosegay thinke you and is it not compounded of choice flowers the sent is so strong to my smell that I cannot choose but stop my nose Nisi as Bernard saith omniuÌ„ passim naribus iniecto foetore solus dissimuleÌ„ pestem nec audeo manum contra pessimum putorem propria manu munire Vnlesse as he saith the stincke smelling strong in euery mans nose I only should dissemble the matter and not dare to sense my nose with mine owne hand against the contagious smell But let vs haue patience a litle and passe along to see what store of such sweet smelling flowers M. Hardinges garden wil afoord vs. Pag. 40. Thus your vaine boast in wickednes wrought by the power of Sathan is put to silence because M. Iewel saith that many kings princes are fallen away from the Sea of Rome haue ioyned them selues to the church of God Pag. 42 This is his heat henish hart what could Purphurie or Iulius or Celsus say more because M. Iewel had said that men euen by light of nature though thereby alone they cannot bee led to the perfection of faith yet may somwhat discerne what is likely or vnlikely in religion according to S. Paule Rom. 1. 20. The inuisible thinges of God his euerlasting power Godhead are seene by the creation of the world Pag. 85 We take you to be mad would God you were not worse then mad were you mad you should be tied vp Els were you suffered to goe abroad for feare folkâ— would flye from you and then should you doe litle hurt Pag. 145 How say you sir Minister Bishop ought the minister to be lawfully called Pag. 146 Touching the exercise of your ministerie you doe all thinges without order vnlesse ye meane such order as Theeues obserue among them selues in distribution of their robberies Pag. 153 If he were so folish to thinke so yet you M. Iewel in that behalfe should not beare the bable with him speaking of Nilus a Greeke writer a learned man and a reuerent Bishop Pag. 162. You shew your selfe to be a man of euill disposition no man euer said it but Illyricus or bawdy Bale Namely that pope Zosimus corrupted the councel of Nice the trueth where of notwithstanding is proued by B. Iewel out of the Aphricane councel cap. 101. 102. 103. Concil Carthag 6. cap. 4. Concil Florentin sess 20. Pag. 164. You are errant slaunderous liers how seemeth not this wicked generation to spring of the deuil because M. Iewel saith by the testimonie of Alphons de castro Sabellic Platina others that pope Liberius was an Arian heretike Pag. 189. This sir defender learned in the schoole of Sathan and now lieth bound in Sathan fatters Pag. 201. Their Bishops for custody of their chastity after their former olde yokefellowes decease solace them selues with new strumpets Pag. 209. Of what small substance this reason is the veriest Coblers of all their Ministers if they can reade any english beside their communion booke may easely perceiue B. Iewell telleth Harding he might haue remembred that not long since Iulius the 2. of a wherrislaue was made Pope but wee haue no coblers in the ministerie Pag. 290. Mauger the malice of the deuil and of all the sacramentaries the old trueth shall preuaile he meaneth the conuersion and transsubstantiating as he calleth it of the bread and wine in the sacrament into the verie body and blood of Christ. But this is no trueth at all neither old nor auncient confussed by D. Tunstall to haue come in twelue hundred yeres after the gospell as in that place it is manifestly prooued Pag. 297. Now sir I report me to euerie man that hath sense whether I may not lawfully giue you the Menti as for manners sake I may vse the Italian terme and chalenge you in plaine termes of a lie for vttering this vntrueth and yet there is no vntrueth vttered see the place Pag. 313. It liked your filthie spirite with vile wordes to bring that holy mysterie into contempt wherein you do the Deuill author of all heresies the greatest seruice that may be deuised because with Origen he had affirmed that the bread in the sacrament as touching the material substance thereof goeth into the bellie and
thereof That wee affirme the Church may faile in faith Annot. Luk 18. Sect. 8. Wee say onely that the Church may erre in some points of doctrine but not finally fall away from the faith Fulk ibid. That we pretend that God draweth vs against our wil without any respect to our consent Iohn 6. 2. God of vnwilling maketh vs willing by changing our will to embrace Christ gladly and otherwise we teach not That wee affirme the Holie Ghost to be none other but the gift of wisedome in the Apostles and a fewe other for gouernment Annot. Act. 8. Sect. 7. But none of vs sayth so It is a meere slaunder That wee allow no fasting but morall temperance and spirituall fasting from sinne Act. 13. Sect. 5. Whereas we do acknowledge a Christian vse of fasting and abstinence from all meates and drinkes for the taming of the flesh and making vs more fit to pray not an abstinence from flesh onely as they do superstitiously imagine That wee should saye that the preaching of the lawe and iudgement to come maketh men hypocrites Act. 24. Sect. 2. Whereas wee hold the preaching of the lawe to be necessarie to bring men to repentance But iustificatiō by keeping the law which they teach we vtterly condemne That wee would haue all men to be present and giue voice in Councels Act. 19. Sect. 5. We say not so for that were impossible But we hold against our aduersaries that as wel the learned and discreete amongst the lay men as the Clergie ought to be admitted to consult of religion And that not only Bishops but other Pastors also and Ministers ought to haue deciding voices in Councels That wee condemne good woorkes as sinfull Pharisaicall hypocriticall Rom. 2. Sect. 3. Whereas we acknowledge them to be the good gifts of God the fruits of iustification the way wherein all Christians must walke to saluation We onely exclude them from being any cause of our iustification before God Annot. Rom. 2. Sect. 4. That wee affirme that God iustifieth man that is to saye imputeth to him the iustice of Christ though hee bee not indeede iust or of fauour reputeth him as iust when in deed he is wicked impious and vniust And that we thinke it is more to Gods glorie and more to the commendation of Christes iustice merites and mercie to call and count an ill man so continuing for iust than of his grace and mercie to make him of an ill one iust in deede and so truely to iustifie him This is a great slaunder For wee thinke and saie that God of a wicked man by his grace and mercie doth make him iust in deede by the iustice of Christ neither calling no◠accounting him iust that continueth wicked as he was before but giuing him also the spirite of sanctification whereby after he is made iust by grace he doth the workes of iustice and keepeth Gods commaundements though not perfectly in this life Fulk ibid. That wee gather of those termes vsed by the Apostle Rom. 4. couered v. 7. not imputed v. 8. That the sinnes of men be neuer truely forgiuen but hidden onely Annot. Rom. 4. Sect. 7. Wee say that our sinnes are truelie forgiuen vs for Christes sake and our conscience freely discharged of them Christ hauing satisfied the iustice of God perfitly for them That wee teach that the Sacramentes of the Church giue not grace and iustice of faith but that they be notes markes badges onely of our remission of sinnes Rom. 4. Sect. 8. Wee say not that they are only markes and badges but as the Apostle saith seales of God to assure our faith of iustification by remission of sinnes And yet it followeth not that the sacraments should giue or conferre grace That to establish our fiction of confidence as they not without blasphemie call it wee make no account of the Articles of the Faith the beleeuing whereof onely iustifieth they say Annot. Rom. 4. Sect. 9. Wheras wee affirme that we are iustified by none other faith but that which is declared in those Articles not by a bare knowledge or beleefe of them that they are true which the diuel hath many reprobates but by stedfast beleeuing of them with a sure trust and confidence in Christ whereby we are made partakers of his precious merites and assured of the remission of our sinnes That we should say Man hath no more free will than a piece of clay Rom. 9. Sect. 7. Whereas we onely saie that our free will hath no power or strength at all to will or doe the thing that is good without the grace of God That we say the faithfull be sure they shall neuer sinne Rom. 8. Sect. 9. We saie onely that they are sure to be preserued from that sinne which is irremissible which is the sinne against the Holie Ghost That where the Apostle saith It is better to marrie than to burne that the Protestants thinke to burne is nothing else but to be tempted because they would easilie picke quarrels to marrie 1. Corinth 7. Sect. 8. Wee do not so thinke that to burne is onely to be tempted but to be so continually inflamed with lust that the will doth consent desire quenching Fulk ibid. That wee will not haue men woorke well in respect of rewarde at Gods hande 1. Corinth 9. Sect. 7. Wee say not so but that men ought not to worke well onely as hirelings for hope of rewarde but chiefely and principally of louing obedience and duetie as of children to their father That wee seeme by abandoning other names of the Communion sauing this calling it supper to haue it at night and after meate 1. Corinth 11. Sect. 8. Wee retaine other names of this Sacrament beside as the Communion the Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ the Eucharist and such like and it is but a vaine conceit that wee encline it to haue it at night when they see our vsuall and dailie practise to the contrarie They say wee professe that wee make no consecration benediction or sanctification of the bread and wine at all in the Sacrament but let the bread and wine stande aloofe and that wee occupie Christes wordes by way of report onely and narration applying them not at all to the Elements proposed to be occupied 1. Corinth 11. Sect. 9. All this is vtterly false for wee professe that by praise and thankes-giuing for the death of Christ and by prayer vnto God that we may be partakers of the bodie and bloud of Christ we consecrate blesse and sanctifie the bread and wine to be the holy blessed Sacraments of the bodie and bloud of Christ. And wee doe also apply the wordes of institution to the Elements though not after their Magicall fantasie praying thus That wee receiuing the secreatures of bread and wine according to Christes holie iustitution which is rehearsed out of the Gospell in remembrance of his passion may be partakers of his most blessed bodie and bloud This is who seeth
P. 146. He thus friendly saith vnto vs If you do not allowe euerie man yea and euery woman to be a Priest why driue ye not some of your fellowes to recant that so haue preached Why allowe yee the bookes of your new Euangelistes that so haue written An odious vntruth for touching the Ministerie of the Church wee haue none that either haue preached so or written so Iewel defens Apolog. pag. 146. That wee saye all things necessarie to saluation are expressed in the Scriptures pag. 240. But so wee say not Wee holde that all things necessarie are either in the Scriptures expressed or therein contained by necessarie collection and diduction to be drawen from the same That wee which say wee can by no meanes fulfill the law of God doe make God vniust euill impotent and not able to giue so much grace as may helpe to fulfill his lawe pag. 368. Wee make not God vniust or impotent but wee confesse our selues to be sinners Neither is the question here what God is able to doe but what he hath promised for howsoeuer God be able by his abounding grace to make vs perfect in this life and altogether voide of sinne as wee shall be in the life to come yet his power is not contrarie to his will reuealed in his worde which saith that all men haue sinned Rom. 3. 23. And as many as are of the workes of the lawe are vnder the curse Galath 3. 10. That wee tell Christian men they may worke as much as they will but all in vaine page 371. Vntruth for wee saye with Saint Paul your woorkes shall not bee in vaine in the Lorde Although wee doe exclude them from being any cause or meane of our saluation and that by the warrant of the Scriptures Roman 3. 28. Ephesian 2. 10. and in other places That wee professe that the faith of the Catholike Church may faile and fall page 493. Wee speake not of the vniuersall Catholike Church but of the Church of Rome or of any other particular Church which may faile in faith as wee see the Churches of Corinth and Galatia are nowe thoroughly departed from the faith and are wholly subiect to the Turke That wee animate temporall Magistrates by the pretensed example of Dauid and Salomon to intermeddle with Bishops offices pag. 689. Vntruth it is not our doctrine But they rather embolden the Pope to meddle with Princes offices And Bellarmine a great Champion of theirs doeth free vs from this slaunder who confesseth of vs that wee holde Regimen ecclesiasticum spirituale esse distinctum a politico That the Ecclesiasticall regiment is spirituall and a thing distinct from the politicall or temporall That wee teach that the Lordes supper is verie bakers bread and wine with the onely figure of Christes bodie and bloud pag. 320. But wee neuer so vnreuerently called that holy Sacrament It is your selfe master Harding that doeth so vilely disgrace this holie Mysterie calling it A piece of bread not woorth a point a leane and carrien banket a toye Wee call it the Sacrament of thankes-giuing the Sacrament of the bodie and bloud of Christ with other names fit for so great mysteries Neither doe wee make them bare figures and signes but as the Apostle saith seales of the righteousnes of faith Rom. 4. 11. Now hauing seene thus farre with what false opinions they charge our Church generally in respect of our doctrine let vs take some triall also of their iust and true dealing with vs in matters belonging to manners And here I doe not thinke but wee shall finde them halting as before First Harding chargeth vs with continuall aduoutrie and incest calling without all honestie or shame Ministers lawfull wedded wiues their filthie yokefellowes pag. 439. Yea hee saith that our Gospel hath no substance beside carnall libertie and licentious liuing pag. 289. And that thorough our euill teaching the worlde groweth more to be dissolute and wicked pag. 382. But if master Harding had remembred the dissolutenes and licentiousnes of life that is at Rome Hee could not without blushing haue charged vs with incest aduowtries and all Carnall libertie He had forgotten belike that olde English prouerbe Hee that goeth once to Rome seeth a wicked man hee that goeth twise learneth to know him hee that goeth thrise bringeth him home with him Fox pag. 843. The Rhemistes doe accuse the Protestants whom they call heretikes for their lightnesse in admitting euery one without discretion to the Clergie 1. Timoth. 3. 6. But as for that vncharitable name of heretikes wee shall shewe anone that it is more proper vnto them than vnto vs. And neuer any heresie admitted more vnworthie persons to the Clergie than Papistrie hath done not onely into the inferiour places but euen into their chiefe Bishops see for as Alphons testifieth whome wee cited before Manie of their Popes did not knowe so much as their Grammar Harding chargeth the Protestants in diuers Countries to haue attempted to wrest the sworde out of the Princes handes Were the hundred thousand Boures in Germanie saith he consumed by the sworde of the Nobilitie there for their obedience P. 441. So hee slaundereth Luther also that hee stirred vp Thomas Munzer in Thuringia who was the Rebels preacher pag. 447. Thus the Rhemistes deale with Caluin calling him one of the principall Rebels of this time and moste falsely giue out of the Protestants that their Consistories are shoppes of rebellion Thus also they report of Wickliffe that hee should teach that Princes are not to be obeyed being in deadly sinne Annotation 1. Peter 2. Sect. 8. All these are malicious slaunders deuised against vs. First the boures of Germanie were most of them aduersaries to Luther and vnderstoode no parte of the Gospell but conspired together as they saide onely against the crueltie of their Lordes as they had two and twentie yeares before in the conspiracie called Liga Sotularia Anno 1503. fifteene yeares before Doctor Luther began to preache which was Anno 1518. Iewell pag. 441. Secondly Luther was so farre from stirring vp Thomas Munzer that hee called him the preacher of Sathan Sleidan li. 5. Thirdly Neither did Wickliffe teach any such thing for he him selfe was obedient both to Edward the third and to Richard the second both which princes as wee knowe were guiltie of some notorious sinnes Fourthly you rather shewe your selues the rebelles of this age who make no conscience in mouing the subiects to rise vp and conspire against their naturall Soueraignes And England knoweth by experience that your Seminaries of Rome and Rhemes are the shops of rebellion which haue forged so manie conspiracies against our Soueraigne but all hitherto in vaine the Lorde be thanked and wee trust in God shal be so still yee might therefore haue beene ashamed to haue cast vs in the teeth with that which your owne consciences may accuse your selues of Thus much of the slaunders in generall which they belch out against our whole Church now wee will
as there was in the law 2 The scripture saith Where the remission of these thinges is there is no more offering for sin Heb. 10. 18. But they teach that their Masse is a sacrifice propitiatorie both for the quicke and the dead as though remission of sinnes were not already obtained by the oblation of Christ. 3. Also the scripture saith Without shedding of blood is no remission Heb. 9. 22. how then can their sacrifice giue remissiō of sins as they affirme where there is no effusion or shedding of blood for they cal it the vnbloody sacrifice Bellarm. de miss lib. 1. cap. 25. Their doctrine and superstitious vse of priuate masses where the priest receyueth alone the people onely gazing and looking vpon him neither eating nor drinking is altogether repugnant to the vsage and doctrine of the Apostles as Saint Paul witnesseth Wee that are many are one bread and one bodie in as much as wee are all partakers of one bread 1. Corinth 11. 17. There ought to bee therefore many at the communion which are made partakers of one bread They affirme that it is a necessarie thing to receyue the communion fasting Bellarm. de miss lib. 2. cap. 14. But the Apostle seeth no such necessitie in it giuing libertie vnto those that can not endure to fast to eate at home before 1. Cor. 11. 34. yet abstinence for them that are able is conuenient That it is lawful for the parties married to be dismissed each from other for diuerse causes beside fornication as for heresie for auoiding of offence for the vow of continencie Bellarm. de matrim lib. 1. cap. 14. yet our Sauiour Christes words are plaine to the contrary Whosoeuer doth put away his wife except it be for fornication causeth her to commit adultery Math. 5. 32. That the coupling in marriage of a faithfull partie with an infidel is not onely illicitum but irritum is not onely vnlawfull to be made but being made is voide Bellarm. de matrim lib. 1. cap. 23. S. Paul teacheth the contrarie The woman that hath to her husband an infidel if he consent to dwell with her let her not put him away 1. Corinth 7. 13. The marriage therefore of such is not in respect of the vnbeleeuers infidelitie if there be no other cause actually void Though we grant acknowledge also with S. Paul that it is not lawful for the faithful to match in marriage with an infidel 2. Cor. 6. 14. That it is not against the law of nature for a man to marry his brothers wife neither that it is simplie prohibited in the law of Moses but that in some cases it may be dispensed withal Caietan Bellar. Bellar. de matrim lib. 1. cap. 27. But Iohn Baptist the best expounder of the lawe openly reproued Herod saying It is not lawfull for thee to haue thy brothers wife Math. 14. Mar. 6. It is a generall reproofe without any exception or limitation at al. That we are not iustified onely by faith yea they say that workes are more principal then faith in the matter of iustification Rhemist Iam. 2. sect 7. Flat contrary to the doctrine of the Apostle Therefore we hould that a mā is iustified by faith without the workes of the law Rom. 3. 28. Workes are so far from being more principall then faith that they haue not to doe at all in the matter of iustification before God That some sinnes are veniall pardonable of their owne nature not worthy of damnation Rhemist Rom. 1. sect 11. Whereas the Apostle sayth that the stipend of sinne is death speaking generally of all sinne Rom. 6. 23. yet both great small sinnes are not onely pardonable but indeed clearly remitted and pardoned by grace in Christ vnto the faithfull and beleeuers which repent and study to amend The law by Christ say they is Ministratio vitae effecta is made the ministration of life Andrad lib. 5. And they call it verbum fidei the word of faith Trident. Concil sess 6. cap. 7. But S. Paule calleth it a killing letter ministerie of condēnation 2. Corinth 3. 6. 9. And that it serueth but as a schoolemaister to bring vs to Christ Galath 3. 24. And he saith flatly that the law is not of faith Galath 3. 12. How then dare they call it the worde of faith vnlesse they list to play with an aequinocation of the worde contrarie to the Apostles meaning But it were too long to rehe arse all their opinions which they maintaine contrarie to scripture such in a manner are all which they houlde wherein they dissent from vs. Let these therefore suffice for example sake which we haue seene and for the rest wee will take their owne confession who doe not denie but that they hold diuerse opinions which are not grounded nor gathered out of scripture as Gabriel Biel confesseth of transubstantiation Non inuenitur in canone bibliae expressum It is not found expressed in the canon of the bible In canon lect 40. Likewise Siluester Prierias Indulgentiae authoritate scripturae non innotuere nobis Pardons or indulgēces are not known vnto vs by authority of scripture lib. cont Luth. Bellarmine also graunteth that single life is not imposed vpon ministers by the word of God there being no precept neither in the old or new testamēt that forbiddeth ministers to marrie Declericis lib. cap. 18. Againe in an other case he confesseth that Matrimoniū inter fidelem infidelē non est iure diuino irritum That mariage betweene a beleeuer an infidel is not void orfrustrate by the law of God yet the papists generally hold the contrary De matrimon lib. 1. cap. 23. And many other such like opiniōs they haue which in their iudgment are not found in scripture but as we thinke are able to proue are cōtrary to scripture in so much that it is a cōmon saying of their schoole-diuines Thus wold I say thus would I hold being in schooles but yet be it spoken here amongest our selues It cannot be so proued by the holy scriptures Ex Paralipom Abbat Vrspergens Bellarmine also concerning the adoration of Images saith that in a sermon before the people it is not safe to affirme that images are to be adored Cultulatreiae with religious worship de sanctor imaginib lib. 2. cap. 22. and yet he graunteth that concerning the matter it selfe it may be admitted that images after a sorte and improperlie may haue that kinde of worship cap. 23. Is not this now an holy religion that in corners secretly whispereth one thing as in the care and publikelie maintaineth and teacheth an other I conclude then this place with that saying of Bernard as he said of certaine superstitious orders of monkes An regula non concordat euangelio vel apostolo alioquiregula iam non est regula quia non recta Doth not your rule agree with the gospell or the Apostle then is it no rule because it is not right Apolog. Bernard so may
and the wine sowreth what it is that is mouldie or sower breade and wine after consecration there is none the accidentes as the whitenesse roundnesse sweetnesse cannot receiue other accidentes we cannot say that they are mouldie or sower are they not then driuen to confesse that the bodie of Christ is subiect to mould and sowernesse If they say Christes bodie departeth and a newe matter is supplyed as before there was transubstantiation by the turning of the breade into Christes bodie so nowe there must bee a retransubstantiation which is a newe pointe of popish learning by the returning of the breade againe Distinct. 33. Whereas they affirme that the whole quantitie and proportion of Christes bodie is in the hoaste wee thus replie vppon them that it is an essentiall propertie of quantitie to haue Partem extra partem One parte distinct from an other the head can not be where the feete nor the feete c. But if Christes bodie in his proper quantitie were in the hoast his partes can not be distinct in so small a roome but shuffed and confo inded together Beltarmine heere coyneth a most friuolous and sophisticall distinction Corpus quantum saith he habet partem extra partem si illudextra dicat habitudinem ad subiectum non autem si dicat habitudinem ad locum That a bodie of due quantitie hath partes distinct one from another in respect of the subiect or bodie it selfe but not in respect of the place so there may be Extensis distinctio partium in subiecto sed non in loco There may be an extension of the partes and a distinction in the subiect though not in the place Bellarm. de sacram Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 7. This of all other is the most absurde and witlesse distinction for howe can there be a distinction reall of the partes in the bodie if there be not in the place for euerie parte hath his proper place answeareable thereunto and as the bodie is lesse or more so the proper place there of is dilated or contracted If then wee take a bodie of two cubites and thrust it into a roome of one cubite or lesse there cannot be the like extension of the partes as in a place of two cubites All the sophistrie in the worlde let the deuill put to his wit and all will not helpe them heere that Christes body full and whole should be enclosed in a thinne wafer cake and yet all his partes keepe their due place and proportion still Alas poore men these restlesse toyes will cause them sooner to runne madde then helpe them at a pinch Distinct. 34. They tell vs of three kindes of conuersion of thinges there is Conuersio productiua A conuersion productiue when a thing is produced which was not before as when Christ chaunged water into wine Conuersio conseruatiua A conuersion conseruatiue when one thing is corrupted or perished and an other thing is generated or preserued Conuersio adductiua A couuersion adductiue when a thing is not produced that was before but is onely brought to a place where it was not so is the breade adductiuely chaunged into the bodie of Christ in the sacrament Bellarm. de sacram lib. 3. cap. 18. Contra. 1. These species or kindes of conuersion are confounded for the productiue and conseruatiue are all one as that example sheweth of turning the water into wine for the water was chaunged and wine conserued and the wine was produced by the power of Christ out of the substance of water The creation was properly productiue when thinges were made and produced that were not but there is no creation nowe and therefore no productiue conuersion 2. Yet to keepe their distinction wee wil easely prooue that the beeing of Christes body in the Eucharist is by a productiue or conseruatiue chaunge not an adductiue For either the bread is there together with Christes bodie as the Lutherans holde and that is their consubstantiation which papistes denie or the breade is annihilate and turned to nothing which I thinke they will not graunt or it must needes be turned into Christes bodie and so a thing is produced that was not namely the breaden bodie of Christ. They haue nothing to answer but this that the bread is turned into Materia prima the first matter wherof thinges are made as the water was when Christ made the wine Bellarm. ibid. cap. 24. Contra. 1. Thus if Aristotle had not helped them with his phantasticall deuise of Materia prima they had beene put to their trumpes 2. And so notwithstanding they are for Aristotles deuise can not stande against scripture which saith concerning that miracle of Christes Aquam vinum factam As their owne text hath the water made wine the water did not vanish into Materia prima or I wote not what but it was made wine namely water and if after the same manner the breade be conuerted in the Eucharist the breade is made the bodie of Christ and the bodie of Christ is made of it Bee ashamed at length yee papistes of such fooleries and glorifie God in confessing your error and acknowledging the trueth Distinct. 35. Where wee vrge that place of the Apostle Hebr. 10. 14. Christ with once offering hath made perfect for euer them that are sanctified And therefore he is not offred or sacrificed in the Masse They haue found out this quaint distinction the oblation of Christ is Cruenta vel incruenta Bloodie or vnbloodie the bloodie sacrifice was offred but once the vnbloodie may be offered often Bellarm. lib. 1. de missa cap. 6. resp ad 8. argum Contr. This is a vaine distinction void of learning trueth For Christ can not be offered vp but by dying Hebr. 9. 27. 28. And without sheading of blood there is no remission of sinnes vers 22. But by the sacrifice of Christ so oft as it is offered there is remission of sins Ergo also sheading of blood there is then no such vnbloody sacrifice or oblation of Christ. Distinct. 36. In other sacramentes the priest is the minister of Christ yet speaketh in his owne person as in baptisme I baptize thee with water but in the Eucharist he is not onely the minister of Christ but assumeth and taketh vpon him his very person saying This is my bodie as the Angels sometime spake in the person of God Bellarm. de sacram Eucharist lib. 4. cap. 14. Contr. 1 When ministers haue such warrant to speak in the person of God as the Angels had they may doe as they did 2. The Rhemistes cōfesse that the priest in penance giueth absolution in the person of Christ Annot. 2. Corinth 2. 6. Therefore in the Eucharist onely as Bellarmine saith he assumeth not the person of Christ but at other times also by their owne confession 3. If to doe any thing in the person of Christ be no more but in the name power or in the stead place of Christ we mislike not the phrase nor sense for
neuer bee blotted out Durandus sayth it is no reall thing distinct from the soule or any absolute qualitie but a certayne respect and relation onely Scotus sayth it can not bee proued by scripture Gabriell doubteth whether the Church hath determined it Yet Bellarmine holdeth his owne still that there is such an indeleble character which is but a meere deuise and hath no ground out of scripture as Scotus saith ex Bellarm. lib. 2. de sacram cap. 20. Some papistes haue held opinion that in baptisme it is sufficient to baptize in the name of one of the persons in trinitie and especially of Christ Sic Hugo de S. Victor Nicholaus papa Bellarmine holdeth as the trueth is that baptisme must be celebrated in the name of the whole Trinitie Some hold that Martyrdome doth not giue grace Nisi ex opere operantis but according to the affection and disposition of the martyr Sic Dominicus a Soto Martinus Ledesinius Others that it was auailable ex opere operato by the verie worke wrought Ita Thom. Gabriell Iohan. Maior and Bellarm. lib. 1. de baptis cap. 6. The first is the truer opinion for without loue if a man giue his body to be burned it is nothing 1. Corinth 13. And yet neither martyrdome nor any worke else can be the cause of grace Some hold that Iohns baptisme was a sacrament of the new lawe and that they which were baptized there with and did not put their trust therein but had knowledge of the holy Ghost needed not to haue beene baptized againe by Christ Sic Petr. Lombardus Others thought it was a kind of sacrament such as were the sacramentes of the lawe It a Magister Thomas But Bellarmine will haue it neither sacrament of the olde nor new de sacram Baptis lib. 1. 19. The scripture putteth all out of doubt that saith Iohn baptized vnto repentance for remission of sinnes Luk. 3. and so was in substance and effect one and the same with the baptisme of Christ. That Christ in the 6. of Iohn treateth not of the Eucharist it is the opinion of many papistes Gabriel Cusanus Caietanus Tapper Iausenius wherein they say as the trueth is But Bellarm. and generally the papistes now a daies doe apply it to the Eucharist though indeed it maketh more against them then for them Lib. 1. de Eucharist cap. 5. ex Bellarm. As touching the Real presence of Christ in the Eucharist Durandus thinketh that the substance of Christ is there without magnitude or quantitie Others thinke that the bodie of Christ is there with the due quantity magnitude but there is no distinction nor order of the partes Sic Okam But Bellarmine and the rest do thinke that the bodie of Christ is in the sacrament in his due quantitie and distinction and order of partes Lib. 3. de sacram Eucharist cap. 5. of all these the first two opinions are more reasonable for how is it possible for the bodie of Christ in his due proportion and bignes to be contained in a thinne wafer cake But none of al these opinions are true for the bodie of Christ is no where else but in heauen til his second comming as S. Peter saith Act. 3. Some did hold that all the bread and wine in the Eucharist was not transubstantiate but so much onely as was receiued of the godly Others that the forme onely of the bread was chaunged not the matter Sic Durandus Some contrariwise that the matter was chaunged not the forme Others that the bread is assumed hypostatically vnto the word as the humane nature is sic Repertus Bellarmine with the rest that after the wordes of consecration the bread wine is transubstantiate wholly into the body of Christ the accidentes onely remaining Lab. 3. de Eucharist cap. 11. It is the general opinion of papistes that there ariseth no more spiritual fruit by receiuing in both kindes then by receiuing in one Yet there are some of the contrarie opinion Alexander Alens Gaspar Cassalius Ruardus And by a generall decree in the councell of Basile the vse of the cup was graunted to the Bohemians Bellarm. lib. 4. de Eucharist cap. 23. for if so the receiuing in one kinde were all out as full of comfort and as profitable as to doe it in both then were one superfluous and so they take vppon them to controule our Sauicur Christ who instituted both and vsed them at his last supper About the popish sacrament of extreame vnction arise these differences They haue but two places of scripture vpon the which they grounde that sacrament Mark 6. Iames. 5. About the former place they much disagree Some holding that when the Apostles annointed the sicke with oyle it was not the sacramentall vnction but an adumbration of it and a preparation thereunto Sic Ruardus Iausenius Dominicus a Soto Others that it is one and the selfe same kinde of vnction which is treated of in both places Sic. Thom. Waldens Alphons de Castro Bellarmine enclineth to the first opinion for no other reason but be cause the protestantes hold the vnctioÌ„ spoken of in both places to be the same Bellarm. de extrem vnction lib. 1. cap. 2. Some thinke that the corporall health of the body is the absolute and infallible effect of this their deuised sacrament Sic Dominic a Soto Others that it is but a conditionall effect if it be profitable for the soules health and that this ceremonie is not principally applied for the health of the bodie but for the health of the soule Concil Tridentin Sic. Bellarm. cap. 6. Some hold that in time of necessitie a lay-man may be the minister of extreame vnction Sic Thom. Waldens Others that a lay-man may annoint with holy consecrate oyle but without a sacrament Sic Dominicus a Soto A third fort thinketh that it is not lawful for the lay sort to do the one or the other Sic Iausenius Bellar. cap. 9. Now who will giue credite to these men that there is such a sacrament of extreame vnction when they cannot agree amongest them selues nor one beleeue another Some also thinke that to annoint the fiue senses together with the reynes and the feete is of the essence of extreame vnction and none ought to be omitted Some the contrary that none of them are of the essence but the annointing of any one may serue The third opinion is that the annointing only of the fiue senses is of the essence Sic. Thom. Aquin. Bellarm. ibid. cap. â—0 The Rhemistes hold the mixture of water wine in the Eucharist to be necessarie and say the protestantes in not vsing that ceremonie do most impudently damnably Annot. 1. Corinth 〈◊〉 sect 10. yet the Canonistes affirme that it is De honestate tantùm non de necessitate Of decencie onely not of necessitie De consecrat distinct 2 in gloss Scotus 4. sententiar distinct 11. quaest 6. Some denie that Episcopalis ordinatio the ordaining of Bishops to be a sacrament Dominicus a
Soto Petrus a Soto Caietanus Durandus with others Bellarmine with the rest of the Iesuites hold the contrary that it is a sacrament De sacram ordinis lib. 1. cap. 4. Durandus denieth matrimonie to be a sacrament vnlesse Equiuocè Equiuocallie and improperlie Bellarmine and generally the papistes holde it properly to be a sacrament Lib. 1. de Matrimon cap. 1. Some of them againe do thinke that matrimonie is not a proper sacrameÌ„t of the new testament Sic Alphons castro Petrus a Soto Bonauentur cum alijs But that it was cofirmed rather then instituted of Christ Bellarmine with the rest hold the contrarie Lib. 1. de Matrim cap. 5. Some hold that matrimonie which they affirme to be a sacrament giueth no grace Sic Magister sententiar lib. 4. distinct 2. Bellarmine with the rest hold the contrarie ibid. Some affirme that they which being maried are afterward conuerted to the faith and baptized should after their baptisme contract matrimonie againe and so then it becommeth a sacrament Sic Paludanus Capreolus Eckius Others thinke that there need no new contract but that matrimonie by the very act of baptisme is confirmed Sic Thom. de Argentin Bellarmine that a new contract is not necessarie but that the parties after baptisme by some signe should expresse their consent Bellarm. lib. 1. de sacram cap. 5. Melchior Canus affirmeth that the parties themselues cannot be the ministers of the sacrament of matrimonie but of the coÌ„tract only but that it must be necessarily done by an ecclesiasticall minister Bellarmine with the reste teach the contrarie that the parties them selues are the ministers of the sacrament Some againe say that the mutual consent of the parties contracted in due forme of wordes expressed are the matter and forme of the sacrament of matrimonie Others that the persons themselues are the matter Bellarmine thinketh both that in the contract while the wordes are the matter expressing their consent afterward the parties themselues Bellarm. cap. 6. The times prohibited and interdict for mariage were in times past three in the yeare from the Aduent to the Epiphanie from Septuagesima to the octaues of Easter from three daies afore the assension to the octaues of Penticost Ruard Tappâ—r The practise among them now is otherwise for with the interdict time at Pentecost they haue dispensed and the prohibited time at Easter is butte shorter to beginne not from â—eptuagesima but from Ash weddensday So was it decreed in the late chapter of Trent sess 24. cap. 10. Concerning the popish sacrament of penance there arise many doubtes and differences among them Some hold the sinnes which are absolued to be the matter of the sacrament others the sinner himselfe that maketh confession some the priest that absolueth ex Bellar. de poenitent lib. 1. cap. 16. Some that the whole sacrament doth not conferre grace but absolution onely by the priest Sic Thom. Aqum Bonauent Vega Franciscus Ferrariens Others that absolution did not giue grace alone but the action of the penitent person was ioyned and did concur with it in that case Bellarmine enclineth to the first opinion Depoenitent lib. 1. cap. 16. Some thinke that the act of penance is but a disposition onely vnto remission of sinnes no merite at all whereby remission is deserued Sic Iohan Capreolus Dominicus a Soto Others that it is not a disposition onely vnto iustification but a meriting cause thereof of congruitie sic Albertus Bonauent Scotus Durandus Gabriel to this also Bellarmine subscribeth lib. 2. de poenitent cap. 12. But the Iesuite is here grosly deceiued for before iustification it is impossible to please God without faith therefore there is no place for merite Some that perfect contrition is not sufficient to attaine remission of sinnes without the sacrament of penance and absolution by the priest but onely at the point of death Others that it is sufficieÌ„t to be truely contrite if the partie haue a vow purpose afterward to receiue the sacrameÌ„t of penance sic Bellar. cuÌ„ alijs lib. 2. cap. 13. But the trueth is that true repentance before God is sufficient with satisfactioÌ„ to the Church in publike offences without either sacramental penance or the vow therof for such sacrameÌ„t we acknowledge none Some hold that men may satisfie God by their penal workes both for the fault and for eternall punishment due thereunto Sic Ruard Tapper Andreas Vega. Others that they can satisfie God for neither of these but onely for temporall punishment Sic Bellarm. cum Iesuitis lib. 4. cap. 1. But the trueth is that Christ hath satisfied fully and wholly in our behalfe both for sinne and whatsoeuer punishment due as we haue shewed before so that no parte or kinde of satisfaction remaineth to be done by vs. Some holde that Auricular confession is necessarie to saluation and that by the institution of Christ Harding pag. 186. Others hold that confession is not necessarie for secret sinnes but that they may be forgiuen without Sic Gratian. Holcott Thom. Aquin. ex Iewel defens apol pag. 190. Some hold that the virgin Mary was conceiued without Originall sin friers Franciscane Others that she was conceiued as all other children of Adam be Do minike friers And Bernard thinketh it vnlawfull therefore to keepe a festiuall day of her conception Fox pag. 800. The most part of them hold that it is not meete or conuenient that the people should receiue in both kindes Others more truely hold the contrarie Bartholomaeus Latomus confesseth that our request is reasonable to haue the holy sacrament administred in both kindes Gerardus Lorichius calleth them Pseudocatholâ—coâ— false catholikes that hinder the reformation of the Church in that point And he calleth the wilfull maintaining of receiuing in one kinde Haeresis blasphemia pestilens execrabilis An heresie and blasphemie cursed and pestilent Ex Iuel defens Apolog. 28. pag. Lastly because it were infinite to shew all their contradictions they do foully disagree about the bodie of Christ in the sacrament what should become of it after consecration Some say that Christes bodie passeth down into the stomacke other that it entreth onely into the mouth An other that as soone as the formes of bread and wine be grated of the teeth the body of Christ is caught vp into heauen One saith a mouse may eate the bodie of Christ An other that a mouse cannot eate it yea the maister of the sentences himselfe is to seeke Deus nouit saith he after much discussing of the matter he resolueth it thus Godknoweth saith he what is become of it Ex citation Iuel pag. 289. Thus much shall suffice concerning the contradictions of the papistes of former times with our newe vpstart pope-catholike doctors And I hope by this it may appeare that their domestical dissensions are not as they beare vs in hand in the smaller pointes onely but in the verie ground and substance of popish Religion as about the sacramentes the Real presence iustification authoritie
well with the Ecclesiasticall function much more the care of one familie may The Iesuit is not wel aduised so soon to forget himselfe 9 That place in Zacharie Thou hast loosed thy prisoners out of the pit where there was no water Zachar. 9. 11. Bellarmine in one place expoundeth of Limbus patrum The dungeon of darknes from whence the Patriarkes were deliuered lib. 4. de Christi anima cap. 〈◊〉 In another place hee alleadgeth it to prooue purgatorie lib. 1. de Purgator cap. 3. But Limbus patrum and purgatorie are places among Papistes much different 10 Bellarmine in expouÌ„ding of that place 1. Cor. 3. 13. The fire shal trie euery mans worke and vers 15. He shalbe saued yet as it were by the fire is put to such trouble and busines that within the compasse of one Chapter hee admitteth contrarie senses of the same place in the first place by fire vnderstanding the iudgement of God in the seconde the flames of purgatorie de Purgator lib. 1. cap. 4. 11 Bellarmine in one place writeth thus In extremo iudicio duo tantum loca remanebunt Paradisus Gehenna At the last iudgement two places onely shall remaine Paradise and Gehenna heauen and hell lib. 1. 〈…〉 g. cap. 8. respons ad 5. obiect And yet not long after he confesseth that there are two places of eternal punishment Limbus infantum pro poena solius damni aeterna the dungeon of infants for eternal punishment of losse without smart and infâ—rnus pro poena damni sensus Hel for the eternall punishment both of losse and smart These then are two places that shall last for euer and Heauen is the third how then are there but two lib. 2. de Purg. ca. 6. 12 Bellarmine otherwhile beareth vs in hand that there are but two kindes of religious worship The higher kinde called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 due onely to God and an inferior sort called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 proper to Saintes vnto the which kinde belongeth that which they call Hyperdouleiâ— a higher kinde of inferior seruice or worship proper to the virgine Marie and the humanitie of Christ so he maketh three kindes in all lib. â— de Sanct. cap. 12. But in another place he doubleth the number and maketh sixe seuerall sortes Latreia simpliciter and secundum quid the first due vnto God the second vnto his image Hyperdulia simpliciter and secundum quid and so likewise Dulâ—a simpliciter and secundum quid the first proper vnto the virgine Marie and other Saintes the other to their images lib. 2. cap. 25. 13 Bellarmine to proue amongst other reasons that those words of Christ This is my bodie are taken properly not figuratiuely alledgâ—â—h this for one verba legum perspicua propria esse debent the wordes of lawes and statutes should be perspicuous and proper And againe Dogmata praecipua non nisi proprijs verbis tradi solent in diuiâ—is literis principall precepts are wont in the Scriptures to be expressed in proper wordes therefore it is not like that Christ being now to prescribe a perpetuall lawe and forme of this sacrament would speake obscurely lib. 1. de Eucharist cap. 9. yet elswhere hee saith Necessariò fatendum est scripturas esse obscurissimas It must necessarily be graunted that the Scriptures are most obscure de Verb. lib. 3. cap. 1. And findeth great 〈◊〉 with vs for saying that the precepts of faith are euldently expressed in Scripture which is no more than hee himselfe affirmeth 14 Sometime Bellarmine telleth vs that Corpus Domini solo corpore 〈◊〉 fide acceptum nihil prodest That the bodie of Christ being onely receiued with the bodie profiteth not de Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 9. Wherein hee faith right Sometime againe hee would make vs beleeue that the Sacraments are auailable ex opere operato by the verie woorke wrought non ex merito agentis vel suscipientis not for the worthines either of the receiuer or Minister And againe Fides poenitentia non dant efficaciam sacramenti Faith and repentance doe not giue efficacie to the Sacrament lib. 2. de Sacrament cap. 1. How these things agree together I can not see that the Sacrament should not profite without the faith of the receiuer And againe that it should auaile ex opere operato without any respect had to the receiuer 15 Bellarmine saith opera bona sine fide non prosunt good workes profite not without faith de Sacrament Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 9. And yet els-where confesseth that there may be Meritum de congruo a merite of congruitie before iustification If then workes may merite then they are auailable and that without faith which cannot be had before iustification Bellarmine lib. 2. de Poenitent cap. 12. 16 Bellarmine in one place saieth Non solum res sed etiam verba in Sacramentis nouae legis a Deo determinata sunt vt non liceat quidpiam immutare The wordes and matter in the Sacraments of the newe lawe are so determined of God that it is not lawfull to change one iotte de Sacrament lib. 1. cap. 21. yet they haue presumed contrarie to their owne rule to change both As for the matter of the Eucharist they haue taken away the one halfe depriuing the people of the cup. And concerning the wordes they do shewe no lesse boldnesse in altering them They haue put in enim into the wordes of consecration saying hoc enim est corpus meum and in consecrating the cup they adde these wordes mysterium fidei The mysterie of faith and all this Bellarmine saith is well done and that these wordes which are not founde in the Gospell are supplyed by tradition from Saint Peter de Sacram. Eucharist lib. 4. cap. 14. Thus they offend against their owne rules for they adde vnto the wordes determined of God in his holye worde which is conteined in the Scriptures 17 Bellarmine sometime graunteth that the bodie of Christ is made of bread in the Eucharist vt ex aqua factum est vinum as of water Christ made wine lib. 3. de Eucharist cap. 24. But in another place he flatly denyeth it for that was a productiue conuersion of the water into wine which is when that beginneth to be which was not before but the changing of bread into Christes body is no productiue conuersion but onely adductiue not making a thing to be which was not before but onely bringing it to a place where it was not before De Eucharist lib. 3. cap. 18. 18 To saye that the Iewes did not eate the same spirituall meate with vs and that the Manna which they did eate had no spirituall effect which is affirmed notwithstanding by Saint Paul 1. Corinth 10. 1. 2. and yet to graunt that they which were then iust or righteous were so iust ob participationem sacrificiâ— crucis by the participation of the sacrifice vpon the crosse I thinke are plaine contraries to say they were not partakers of the same spirituall meate with vs
head of the vniuersal Church neither hath he any thing to do in purgatory as other of the popish sort haue written 11 Bellarmine confesseth that the pope is not Peters successor Iure diuino By diuine right neither by Christes institution in the Gospel Lib. 2. de pontif cap. 17. How then commeth it to passe that they haue made it an article of their faith To beleeue the pope to be the head of Christes Church Seeing Bellarmine him self confesseth in these words Nihil est de fide nisi quod Deus per Apostolos aut Prophetas reuelauit aut quod euidenter inde deducitur Nothing is of faith but that which God hath reuealed by his Apostles or prophets or that which is euidentlie deduced from thence Bellarm. de verb. Dei non scripto lib. 4. cap. 9. But that the pope is Peters successor it is neither expressed nor euidentlie deduced out of scripture therefore it is no point of faith 12 Bellarmine and likewise the rest make the perpetuall succession of the Bishops of Rome to be a manifest argument of the Church he calleth it insolubile and euidentissimum argumentum and yet afterward being pressed with the example of the patriarchicall sea of Constantinople which hath had alwaies a perpetual succession he aunswereth that succession is an argument of the Church Negatiuely that is where there is no succession there is no Church not affirmatiuely that where there is succession there is straightway a Church lib. 4. de notis Eccl. c. 8. Thus wee see what is become of their euidentissimum argumentum of this their most euident argument 13 It is confessed by our aduersaries that the Church of Rome was founded both by Peter and Paule Rhemist annot Galath 2. sect 6. And that they are both patrones of that sea How then commeth it about that the pope chalengeth rather to be Saint Peters successor then Saint Paules 14 In the popish Church they do deuide the cup from the other element in the Eucharist ministring the sacrament in one kinde onelie to the lay-sorte Cleane contrarie to the Canon of Gelasius which is to be found among the popes owne decrees in these wordes We vnderstand that there are some which receiuing onely the portion of the Lordes body do abstaine from the cup of his sacred blood to whome we inioyne that either they receiue the whole sacrament in both kindes or else that they receiue neither for the deuiding of that whole and one sacrament cannot be done without great sacriledge Canon Gelas. de consecrat Who seeth not now that their practise is contrarie to their owne decrees 15 Now vnto these repugnant and contrarie pointes in popish Religion we may adde also their vncertainties vndetermined articles As first it is not yet knowen at what time Peter came to Rome Orosius â—aith he came thither in the beginning of Claudius raigne Ieromâ— saith the second yeare of his raigne other say the fourth yeare other the thirteenth yeare Damasus would haue him come thither in Nero his raigne This dissentioÌ„ of writers sheweth that the matter may be doubted of whether Peter were euer at Rome or not Againe they can shew no certaine succession from Peter of the which they bragge so much TertulliaÌ„ maketh Clement the next to Peter Optatus first nameth Linus then Clement Irenaeus after Peter placeth Linus and Cletus and Clement in the fourth Thus also their succession is made vncertaine and doubtfull 16 They hold Lent to be an Apostolical tradition warranted by the example of our Sauiour Christ Irenaeus witnesseth that some fasted one day some two daies some fortie howers day and night Epiphanius saith the wednesdaies fast also was an Apostolike tradition and to fast the six daies of Esther with bread and water and salt which the papistes them selues obserue One therefore is as like to be an apostolike tradition as the other But it is certaine neither of them was for then they would haue beene kept more vniformely of the Church and not euery man left to his owne choice 17 It is a matter yet vndetermined and not concluded vpon of all sides whether the pope be aboue Councels or Councels aboue the pope And both opinions are maintained and defended in the popish Church 18 As also it is vncertaine among papistes whether the Virgin Marie were conceiued without Original sinne for both opinions are permitted and suffered among them both of them that say she was and that hold she was not Bellarm. decultu sanctor lib. 3. cap. 16. Likewise they leaue it as vncertaine whether Mary were assumed and taken vp into heauen in bodie Ex Fulk annot 1. Act. vers 14. 19 About and concerning purgatorie they haue many doubtes which they are not yet resolued vpon as first in what place purgatorie should be 2. How many yeares purgatorie continueth whether an hundred 200. or 1000. yeares 3. Whether it be materiall fire that burneth in purgatorie they are vncertaine 4. They make doubt how corporall fire should worke vpon the soules in purgatorie which are spiritual and incorporal Bellarm. lib. 2. depurgator cap. 12. 5. It is doubted whether the deuils or Angels are ministers of the torments in purgatory 6. Whether the paine of purgatorie be at all time alike or by litle litle slaked toward the end and whether it exceed al the paines and sorrowes of this life Bellarm. cap. 14. All these pointes remaine yet vndetermined among them and yet for all this the Iesuite telleth vs sadly that it is an article of faith to beleeue purgatorie and that he which beleeueth it not is sure to goe to hell Bellarm. lib. 1. cap. 11. 20 Lastly that wee may see at once the fraile and brittle foundation of popish Religion the Rhemistes boldly affirme that iustice is reputed to men or that they are iustified by beleeuing onely the articles of Christes death and resurrection and this they call the Catholike faith Annot. Rom. 4. Sect. 9. If this be Catholike faith to beleeue onely the articles of faith to be true then reprobates yea and the diuell himselfe may bee true Catholikes for the diuels beleeue and tremble Iames 2. 19 yea they confesse Iesus to be the sonne of God Math. 8. 29. Mark 5. 7. Is not this a proper faith for Christians to saue themselues by It is not then a bare knowledge or generall beleefe of the articles of faith or giuing assent or credite vnto them only that is sufficient to iustifie vs as the Rhemistes affirme but such a beleefe of these articles as is ioyned with an assured trust and confidence in God and vndoubted perswasion that all the promises of God and whatsoeuer Christ wrought in his flesh are not onely true but euen do belong and appertaine to vs. Thus I thinke I haue requited Bellarmines kindnesse towardes vs who chargeth vs with no lesse than an hundred seuerall dissensions in opinion amongst our selues I haue here repayed him for his bare hundred sixe
for they which are in darknes excluded from the presence of God do not onely sustaine the losse of that benefit but they must needs also be in paine sorow for as the Psalme pronoâ—ceth of other creatures If thou hidest thy face they are troubled Psal. 104 29. so is it also true of men that the hiding of Gods face the absence of his spirit bringeth sorrow trouble withal So our Sauiour saith They shalbe cast into vitter or exterior darkenes there shalbe weeping gnashing of teeth Math. 8. 12. darkenes then is accompanied with weeping and extreme horror It is called the vtter or exterior darkenesse because without the kingdome of heauen there is nothing but darkenes But if they will haue it so called in respect of hell it selfe as though some darknesse were Exterior or outward some interior or inward the darkenesse of Limbus patrum which they say is in the brimme of hell must be this exterior darknesse because hel the place of the damned is lower and more inward and that must be the Interior darkenesse Thus wee see howe easely their vanities are blowen away Distinct. 28. The Iesuite maketh two kindes of voluntarie worship that is properly called Cultus voluntarius Voluntarie worship Qui sine ratione suscipitur Which is taken in hand without any reason or grounde There is an other kinde of worship or seruice Qui exhibetur Deo per actus virtutum Which is performed vnto God by some act of vertue and this is not properly a voluntarie worship or Religion though it be not commaunded of this sort they say their pilgrimages are and such like Bellar. de sanct lib. 2. cap. 8. Contra. 1. Saint Paule forbiddeth all voluntarie worship Coloss. 2. 23. the worde is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wherfore al thinges brought into the worship of God without his commandement by the wil of man what reason or cause soeuer is pretended is but will-worship 2. The Apostle speaketh not of such a will-worship as is fondly enterprised without any cause as if a man should vowe not to sit downe at the table till he haue twise washed as the Iesuite putteth the example but euen of such worship as is commended by the Iesuite which is not rashly begunne but with aduise and performed by some vertuous act for the Apostle saith that euen will-worship hath a shew of wisedome it is not sine ratione but habet rationem sapientiae Againe there is submission and humblenesse of the minde and not sparing or not satisfying the flesh al these our aduersaries cannot denie to be vertuous actes for such are their fastinges and other workes of penance Wherefore euen such thinges do make but a will-worshippe The Iesuite then hath saide iust nothing Distinct. 29. Bellarmine graunteth that vowes may be made properly vnto Saintes as vnto God but with this distinction Wee do promise and make a vowe to God in signe of our thankefulnesse to him as vnto the author of all good thinges but vnto Saintes we vow to betoken our thankefulnesse vnto them as our mediators and intercessors by whose meanes wee doe receiue these good thinges of God Bellarm lib. 3. de sanct cap. 9. Contra. Thus they are not ashamed to rob God of his honour The scripture reacheth vs that vowes onelie are to bee made to God Esay 19. 21. In that day the Aegyptians shall knowe the Lorde and shall doe sacrifices and vowe vowes vnto God Heere vowes and sacrifices are ioyned together but sacrifices no manner of way are due to Saintes therefore neither vowes Againe the scripture maketh this a reason why we should vowe vnto God and pay our vowes For the Lord thy God will surely require it of thee Deut. 23. 21. But God onely is able to require and exact a vowe at our handes and to call vs to accounte for it Ergo wee must vowe onely vnto him Distinct. 30. Daies among Christians are partlie Equall partlie vnequall Vnequall they are by reason of the precept and determination of the Church and for the mysticall signification which they haue Equall they are Quoad essentialia festi In respect of the essentiall matters of an holy day As a man priuately by him selfe may vpon any day receiue the communion heare the word and keepe the memorie of Christes resurrection Bellarm. de câ—lt Sanctor lib. 1. cap. 10. Contra. The difference and distinction of daies for signification and in respect of more holinesse is meere Iudaicall as the Apostle testifieth This man esteemeth one day aboue another day another man counteth euery day alike Rom. 14. 5. Wherefore daies are all equall and alike vnto Christians not in respect onelie of those essentials for so were they also equal to the Iewes they might by them selues vppon any day if they would read the law remember Gods benefites and such like but they are equal in nature holines and goodnes so that difference of daies amonge Christians is rather for Christian order and pollicie sake for the people to meete together to heare the word and serue God then as setting apart some daies for greater holines in themselues Distinct. 31. Whereas wee obiect that place of the Gospell The poore ye haue alwaies but me ye shall not haue alwaies Math. 26. against the Reall and bodily presence of Christ in the Eucharist They answere by this distinction that Christ is not now present in bodie Uisibili corporali praesentia By his visible or corporall presence or Secundum humanam conuersationem After his conuersation or as he was conuersant amonge men but inuisiblie he may be present and after another maner Bellarm. de Eucharist lib. 1. cap. 14. resp ad loc 4. Contra. This distinction is thus by scripture ouerthrowen S. Peter saith The heauens must containe or receiue Christ till his comming againe Act. 3. 21. He cannot in his body be absent from heauen till that time therefore he can not any way be present in earth If they answeare as they doe that he may be in Heauen and in the Eucharist all at one time wee confute them by an other place of scripture Hee is not heere saith the Angell for he is risen Math. 28. 6. which had beene no good argument if the body of Christ were likely to be in two places at once Distinct. 32. Some thinges are properly attributed to the bodie of Christ in the Eucharist as whatsoeuer signifieth motion from place to place as the bodie of Christ may be said to be lifted vp and to be laid downe and such like but other mutations and chaunges as to wake hoate or colde to sower or be mouldie doe very improperly or not at all agree vnto the body of Christ Bellarm. de Eucharist lib. 1. cap. 3. Contra. We graunt in deede that Christes bodie is not now subiect to heate or colde nor any such thing and therefore wee denie that his bodie is present in the Eucharist because the Elements doe receiue these alterations Let them tell vs then when the breade mouldeth