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Firmianus and Dubitantius, or, Certain dialogues concerning atheism, infidelity, popery, and other heresies and schisme's that trouble the peace of the church and are destructive of primitive piety written in a plain and easie method for the satisfaction of doubting Christians / by Tho. Good.
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Good, Thomas, 1609-1678.
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to_o the_o sight_n the_o smell_n the_o taste_n shall_v we_o think_v that_o the_o god_n of_o truth_n give_v to_o mân_z five_z scence_z to_o deceive_v 4_o of_o they_o by_o one_o pretend_a miracle_n or_o that_o it_o be_v his_o method_n to_o inform_v the_o mind_n by_o imposture_n if_o one_o or_o two_o or_o three_o sense_n may_v be_v deceive_v why_o not_o all_o then_o what_o will_v become_v of_o rome_n oral_a tradition_n for_o may_v not_o the_o ear_n be_v deceive_v as_o well_o as_o the_o eye_n the_o nose_n the_o taste_n the_o touch_n here_o be_v 4_o sense_n to_o one_o against_o that_o tradition_n and_o then_o how_o be_v the_o papi_v certain_a of_o what_o they_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o present_a church_n or_o how_o be_v she_o certain_a of_o what_o she_o receive_v from_o the_o church_n immediate_o before_o she_o be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n which_o teach_v man_n not_o to_o believe_v their_o eye_n and_o other_o of_o their_o sense_n a_o ready_a way_n to_o atheism_n and_o infidelity_n for_o if_o four_o of_o the_o five_o sense_n may_v be_v deceive_v then_o farewell_o all_o tradition_n and_o if_o these_o inferior_a faculty_n may_v be_v thus_o baffle_v what_o satisfaction_n can_v it_o have_v be_v to_o st._n thomas_n that_o christ_n be_v true_o rise_v from_o the_o dead_a by_o put_v his_o finger_n into_o the_o print_n of_o the_o nail_n or_o his_o hand_n into_o his_o side_n but_o beside_o what_o sense_n and_o reason_n witness_v against_o this_o monstrous_a opinion_n the_o scripture_n be_v clear_o opposite_a unto_o it_o for_o christ_n at_o the_o institution_n of_o this_o sacrament_n do_v not_o take_v his_o own_o body_n into_o his_o handâ_n but_o bread_n he_o break_v not_o his_o own_o body_n but_o bread_n he_o do_v not_o eat_v his_o own_o body_n he_o do_v not_o drink_v his_o own_o blood_n but_o he_o drink_v of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n mat._n 26.29_o for_o so_o he_o call_v it_o after_o consecration_n and_o distribution_n i_o will_v not_o drink_v henceforth_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n etc._n etc._n in_o like_a manner_n st._n paul_n it_o be_v still_o this_o bread_n and_o this_o cup._n 1._o cor._n 11.26_o when_o our_o saviour_n say_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la what_o do_v hoc_fw-la stand_v for_o either_o it_o must_v signify_v this_o thing_n in_o my_o hand_n i._n e._n the_o bread_n or_o else_o his_o own_o body_n which_o body_n he_o hold_v in_o his_o hand_n utter_v these_o word_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la that_o be_v corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la a_o mere_a identical_a trifle_a proposition_n which_o according_a to_o all_o logic_n be_v most_o absurd_a and_o destroy_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o a_o sacrament_n which_o consist_v of_o two_o essential_a part_n the_o sign_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v beside_o they_o of_o rome_n conâess_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o present_a under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n when_o the_o priest_n begin_v to_o pronounce_v hoc_fw-la nor_o till_o he_o have_v utter_v the_o last_o syllable_n um_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la such_o poor_a shift_n these_o man_n be_v force_v to_o use_v as_o for_o antiquity_n so_o much_o boast_v of_o by_o those_o of_o rome_n i_o know_v that_o some_o of_o the_o father_n to_o draw_v man_n mind_n from_o the_o earthly_a element_n to_o heavenly_a mystery_n use_v now_o and_o then_o high_a rhetorical_a expression_n never_o dream_v of_o any_o substantial_a change_n of_o the_o element_n into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v evident_a from_o iraeneus_n panis_n communis_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la amplius_fw-la panis_fw-la communis_fw-la sed_fw-la efficitur_fw-la eucharistia_n quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la duabus_fw-la naturis_fw-la terrenâ_fw-la &_o caelâsti_fw-la haec_fw-la oblatio_fw-la âst_fw-la figura_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la ambrose_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n cap._n 11._o &_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n non_fw-la dubitavit_fw-la dominus_fw-la dicere_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la cum_fw-la dedit_fw-la fignum_fw-la svi_fw-la corporis_fw-la aug_n epist_n 23._o ad_fw-la bonifa_n &_o 12._o cap._n contra_fw-la adiman_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la i._n e._n typus_fw-la corporis_fw-la mei_fw-la terâull_a panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la appellatione_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la honoravit_fw-la non_fw-la naturam_fw-la quidem_fw-la mutans_fw-la sed_fw-la naturae_fw-la gratiam_fw-la adjiciens_fw-la theod._n dial_n 1._o &_o 2._o in_o a_o word_n the_o ancient_a father_n who_o oppose_v the_o eutychian_a haeresy_n do_v make_v use_n of_o the_o sacramental_a union_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n show_v that_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o more_o change_v into_o the_o divine_a then_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n be_v into_o the_o 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doctrine_n be_v so_o far_o from_o it_o that_o the_o better_a sort_n of_o heathen_n will_v blush_v to_o own_o for_o brevity_n sake_n i_o shalâ_n refer_v you_o to_o the_o first_o and_o second_o part_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o jesuitism_n the_o jesuit_n morrall_n set_v out_o bâ_n a_o sorbon_n doctor_n mr._n fowl_n his_o history_n of_o the_o treason_n and_o rebellion_n of_o these_o holy_a man_n the_o two_o former_a of_o these_o book_n assure_v we_o that_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o probability_n and_o a_o good_a intention_n the_o foul_a sin_n be_v at_o most_o but_o venial_a dub._n the_o jesuit_n be_v but_o one_o party_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n many_o oâ_n their_o tenant_n and_o practice_n disclaim_v by_o other_o of_o the_o papist_n and_o therefore_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v not_o chargeable_a with_o their_o error_n firm._n until_o that_o church_n do_v express_o condemn_v thâm_n and_o execute_v ecclesiastical_a censure_n upon_o such_o of_o her_o member_n as_o do_v broach_v 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