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A12090 Christ, on his throne; not in popish secrets A prophecie of Christ, against his pretended presence in popish secrets; laid open in a sermon preached before his Maiestie at Wansted certaine yeares agoe, and since much inlarged, and (vpon request) preached else where. By Richard Sheldon, Doctor in Diuinitie, his Maiesties chaplaine. In the preface whereof, there is also a briefe inquirie made by him, into a late sermon, stiled, The communion of saints. Sheldon, Richard, d. 1642? 1622 (1622) STC 22394; ESTC S117178 50,612 74

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hee is in the penetrals is vsed for the popish maner of teaching Christs beeing vnder the Secrets of bread and wine The popish priests are not so powerfull for the making of their Christ present in the Secrets of bread and wine as the popish Diuines are witty How Christ is diuisibly and indiuisibly present in the popish Secrets for the opening and declaring of the manner how hee is there to weet by a kinde of penetration Totus in toto totus in qualibet parte whole Christ in the Secret of the whole Hoste and whole Christ in the Secret of euery the least particle of the Hoste But let vs consider a-little how they explicate this and endeauour to auoid that penetration of Christ in himselfe which I object vnto and against them Diuerse of the antienter school-sophisters haue dared to See Holcot in 4. q. 3. Biel in 4 dist 1. q. 1. not 3. lec in can 37 teach that if Masse had been celebrated in diuerse places at that very time when Christ suffred he should haue bin crucified in so many places but this position little pleaseth the * So my master Vasqu in Rome transubstantiating Theologues of these times who teach the clean contrary Because say they though Christ bee in the Sacrament most really truely and personally and hath his dimensions of quantity and proportion of parts to wit an arm of such a length a hand of such a breadth c. in ordine ad se in respect of himself or to himself so that where his head is there his foot is not and so of the rest yet in respect of the place in which hee is and in regard of the accidents of bread and wine vnder which he is hee hath no parts nor dimensions one without other but is like the soule of man indiuisibly totus in toto totus in qualibet parte whole Christ indiuisibly in the Secret of the whole Hoste and whole Christ in the secret of euery least particle of the Hoste and consequently Christ being th●re indiuisibly is also there impassibly not subject to any hurt or corruption the which how can it bee imagined to be without true penetration of Christs parts and members one within another O most horrible confusion and fearfull commixtion of Christ And this is confirmed by that which they secretly teach yea which they publikely read in their Schools for so did my Master Gabriel Vasques in Rome to weet that by reason of Gabriel Vasqu his paradox touching Christs maner of presence this indiuisible presence of Christ in the Hoste when any of their Deuouts doo behould a consecrated Hoste they may as it shall best fit their deuotion imagine and conceiue Christ to be there in what fashion they shall please either as a perfect yea bloody man as hee was hanging vpon the Crosse or as a young pretty babe as hee was in his mothers arms and this in what site and disposition of body as they shall list either sitting standing or lying with eies open or shut with hands closed or open and so in infinitum as there may be different manners and fashions of still and silent gestures in man This is their most prodigious position which is so flat A prodigious position of popish Theologues against all truth of Diuinity and light of Philosophy as it euidently followes out of that main and vain doctrine of theirs that Christ is wholly and truely after the manner of Bell. de Sacram. euch l. 4. c. 21. 22. l. 3. c. 4. 5 a spirituall substance indiuisibly in the whole imagined space and place of the consecrated Hoste and euery part or least parcel of the same so it also most euidently shewes that Ch●ists body doth not onely by the true dimension of the thicknes Iac. Suar. in his thes quadra in ser 42. in ●er 3. do pal hath a comparison of an egge readie for the hatch of a chicken where nothing is to be seen but whitenes c of Christ in the host Read this his Sunilitude which he calleth a fit one thereof penetrate the quantity of the bread wine which in their doctrine remains after consecration but further also it clearly ●uinceth all the parts and members of Christs body to penetrate and cōfusedly to pearce into each other And what a phantasticall and paradoxicall body haue we heer hauing in it self and in respect of it self all proportions and dimensions of bodily parts with their due longitude latitude and thicknes but in respect of the imagined place of bread and wine without all these and yet withall in respect of the said place and imagined space the de●out meditator may take Christs bodie to bee truly in such forme and fashion either as of a perfect man or as of a little Child as shall most agree with his fancie O Egregions and Acute Rabbies These and of this class bee the worthies which some vnstable ministers for want of better stuffe vse to cite in their Sermons And is not this Penetrall penetrall by penetration wherein Christ is taught personally to bee and reside that which our Sauiour here hath in such detestation Beleeue it not Let others thinke what they please I cannot otherwise resolue but that it is the verie same which he here fore-telles and condemnes If therefore they shall say vnto you behould hee is in the Secrets beleeue it not Against what hath beene proued it is thus obiected A difficult obiection as it may seeme yet easilie answered first Christ foretelleth of some Pseudo-Christs and false-prophets who should teach him to bee present amongst men conuersant with them in humane shape though in secret clos●ts or in the desert but so doe not the Papists For they onely teach Christ to bee though personally yet not in humane shape but sacramentally inuisibly and indiuisibly vnder the formes and in the secrets and penetrals or entrailes if I may so speak of the bread and wine To this Obiection I answer diuerse waies and each of A cleare three fould answer them sufficient First our Sauiour if wee insist vpon his expresse words and take them literally as the Papists doe those words this is my bodie speaketh nothing at all touching his pretended conuersation in humane shape amongst men neither doth hee vtter anie word by which the same may bee gathered but rather the cleane contrarie vsing the words penetrals desert c. neuer so much as mentioning anie town citie or special Kingdome wherein they shall pretend Christ to bee nor glancing in anie tearms or words at anie kinde of humane actions of speech sight visible apparent c. which these false prophets will pretend but hee onlie foretelleth his faithfull that they should bee inuited to see him in the penetrals and this not in anie humaneshape but in some such admirable These false prophets were not to shew Christ in any humane shape sort as would require faith for the perfecting
of the said sight of him And in this respect it is that Christ saith beleeue it not hee doth not say beleeue him not beleeue not him but beleeue it not or beleeue not it It. So that it is a it a mysticall and mysterious it and manner of Christs being sacramentally personally in such Secrets and penetrals but not a hee or a him of Christs being there in humane shape Which being so that these false-prophets were to inuite the faithfull beleeuingly with faith to behould Christ to bee personally in such Secrets I hope the Papists will not denie but the same is punctually acted in their Christ in their Secrets Closets Church-arks Church-cupbords tabernacles c. Parsons was so well perswaded Parsons against Reports cap. 10. pag. 236. of the truth of this that Christ is to bee beheld and seene in the Secrets of Bread and Wine that with great ioie and confidence hee relateth out of Walsingham the answere of King Henrie the 3. of England made to King Lewis of France called the Saint For whereas King Lewis said that hee had rather heare manie Sermons then many masses King Henrie replied and said that for his part he had rather heare many masses then manie A conference betwixt King Henrie the 3. of England King Lewis called the Saint Sermons and withall yeeldeth this reason for the same that hee had rather see his friend then heare anye man though neuer so eloquently discoursing of him Christ then is to bee seene in popish penetrals with a Behould requiring faith and admiration If they should say and reply that they see him not properly that cannot bee for standing within their owne Christ in the popish Secrets v● conuersions by the force and Energie of conuersion principles that Christ is there vi conuersionis by the vertue of conuersion as my master Vasques taught in Rome I dare vndertake to shewe that in regard of the dependencie sustentation which the accidents of bread haue from the bodie of Christ whereby the substance of bread ceases to be and is turned into the bodie of Christ there is as intime So my Maister Vasquez his dictates which I haue with mee an vnion betwixt the accidents of bread and wine and Christs body as there is betwixt mans Soule and the qualities substantiall of the bodie yea in a degree though of farre inferiour excellencie of like kinde the accidents of bread and wine are sustained or sustentated if I may so speake by the bodie of Christ as the Humanitie The bodie of Christ sustames the Accidents of bread wine of Christ is sustained subsisteth by the diuine subsistence the difference onelie is one is more excellent then the other Againe in the one is supplied a naturall subsistence in the other a naturall inexistence or inherencie Now then as man in regard of outward qualities may be said to bee seen or the sonne of God may be said to be seen although Bellarmine affirmes that by consecration Christs bodie is made truelie and visibly present Bellar. lib. 1. de Miss cap. 12. ¶ Restat Salmero in vita Bellar. lib. 2. de Euchar. cap. 24. August lib. 3. de Trinit cap. 10. See Bell. lib. 1. De missa cap. 12 the Godhead the Soule or humane nature of man bee not seene as they are in themselues so likewise Christ in their doctrine may bee truly saide to bee seene in the formes of bread and wine And is it not a frequent saying with them when Christ is caried in their Processions Spectate Deus venit Behould God comes And was it not a saying of ould that they would aske of their Children whether they had respecting the eleuated Host at Masse seen God almigh tie vpon such or such a daie And doth not Bellarmine seeme to confesse that Christ may as trulie be said to bee seene in the formes of bread and wine as the Angells are seen in such formes and shapes as they take yea hee bringeth Saint Austines authoritie for the same that young Infants if they were not otherwise instructed in respect of that which is tould them concerning the diuine mysteries would thinke that Christ did when he was conuersant vpon earth appeare in the formes of bread and wine Answer 2 Secondly I answer touching Conuersation that the Pontificians cannot denie but that for their parts there is a conuersation betwixt themselues and their Christ for they are presentially with him they see him they handle him they speak to him they adore him they adorne A kind of true conuersatiō be twixt the Papists and their Christ him they lo●k him vp they carrie him about they walk to him and with him they watch with him and for him they cloath him and doe all seruices to him as to a Christ present both knowing seeing and vnderstanding well what they doe to him And further for their Christs part there present in A maine reason pretended for such corporal presence is that the popish faithfull may haue comfort thereby which cannot bee without some manner of conuersation See Iacob Suarez Thesauro quadrages ser 42. in fer 3. do pal person I hope they will not deny but that hee knoweth himselfe to be with them and in what manner hee is with them so that he heareth their prayers seeth their gestures weareth their ornaments worketh by his graces in their Soules and doth oftentimes many miraculous and prodigious effects and Cures amongst them And is not this a true manner of conuersation of such a Christ with such his Christians What is Conuersation but mutuall entercourse of Intelligent and vnderstanding Persons in actions done with knowledge and vnderstanding They vnderst and what they doe to this their Christ and I hope this their Christ knowes heares and sees what is so done by them to him and what answerably hee doeth to them When I was in Rome and pronounced an Oration in the Roman English Church vpon the burning and torturing of Maister Walter Marsh that worthie Martyr Amongst other points I remember one notable passage to wit That Christ beeing carried in a Pixe in that Procession where Master Marsh strook it downe by the handes of a Bishop their Oration taught mee thus to ●ay thereof See my Motues in the preface Christ conuerseth and visiteth in their processions in effect to wit that when Christ did visit his faithfull and make progresse amongst them then the impious and sacrilegious hands of that wicked man did violently beate and cast him downe Lo then here is a point of singular conuersation to wit visitation and progresse accknowledged in their Christ when hee is carried about in their Processions If it be here obiected that their Christ doth not speake vnto them with vocall words or sound of mouth I answer That is but one point of conuersation and the same may bee supplied by signes and some motions or gestures which the Priests make vpon him and about him aswell
times that immediately precede the second coming of Christ and the consummation of the world And so I come to adjoine some certain obseruations most clearly confirming this Prophecy to bee fulfilled in the popish pseudo-christianism First obserue that these false prophets were to doo manie First obseruation signes and wonders for the confirmation of this their false doctrine Loe hee is in the penetrals Dabunt signa magna c. They shall giue great signes and wonders saith Christ Verse ●4 that if it were possible the very Elect should be deceiued And the Apostle pronounceth that the coming of Antichrist 2 Thess 2. 8 should be by the operation of Satan in all power of signes and lying prodigies and in all manner of wicked seducement of those who perish All which how egregiously it is compleated in the Roman Antichristian Synagogue Anthonie de Padua S. Ant. in sum hist p. 3. tit 24 c. 3. ¶ 2. Bell. lib. 3. de euch cap. 8. Liber conform Spec. mag exem See Down de Antichristo Pas●h l. de corp d●m c. 14. Bredenbac l. 7. s●c collat ● 60. spec exem verbo eucharis●i his hungry Asse leauing hay to goe worship Christ in the Secrets the Assisian Francis his Cade-Lamb adoring day by day the eleuated Hoste at Masse the kneeling of a black horse with one knee onely before an Hoste which was lost of one knee onely because the diuell was in the said black horse Paschasius the Priest his seeing vpon the altar Christ in the form of a little childe with many such like prodigious vanities related by popish Authours doo most manifestly euince The Papists glory that they haue miracles and signes for the confirmation of this their pseudo-christianisme but this glory is their confusion for if they had not miracles and prodigies for confirmation of the same they should not be those false Prophets whō our Sauiour heer fore-speaketh of that they should do great signes and wonders euen to the seducing of the Elect if it were possible The signes of them therefore were to bee great powerfull many we deny them not nor them the glory therof Obseruation 2 Secondly I obserue that these false Prophets were by the meanes of this their false doctrine to seduce many Seducent multos saith Christ They shall seduce many Which Mat. 24. 11 wee see so fully accomplished in the Roman Synagogue that the very Elect are in great danger and hazard to bee led If all be to bee seduced but the Elect of which there is but a small nūber what maruell that there is such a generall Apostasie away by their so powerfull perswasions There is no one point which doth more strongly hold and tie the disciples of the Pope to him and his errours than this mysterie Behould he is in the penetrals Behold we haue Christ personally and substantially in the Secrets of our Sacrament For this cause if we seek to draw any one of them from that popish confusion of errours and Chaos of superstitions wherein they sleep what doo they most commonly alleage for their not-yeelding Mary this You you say they the Protestants haue taken from vs the true and corporall presence of Christ in the Sacrament and would feed vs with tropes signes and figures onely how then can or shall wee forsake true Christ and come to feed on your husks of bread wine which you onely haue Wherein they doo egregiously calumniate vs for concerning rem sacramenti the thing of the Sacrament and the vertue thereof and the real conjunction by grace and faith to Christ wee teach it most constantly and teach also a reall presence of Christs body like that of Angels which are in place by operation Calu. in c. 26 Mat. B. Bilson part 4. p. 728 729 by the means of the reall operation and effectuall efficacy of grace by the same working by faith and loue in the hearts of the faithfull receiuers Obseruatiō 3 I obserue thirdly that these false Prophets were not onely to seduce by sweet perswasions signes wonders but that also they were to adde great afflictions and tribulations to enforce the same for so much importeth the Saying of our Sauiour who presently after his Charge Go not ou● beleeue it not mentioneth tribulation saying After the tribulation of those daies Whereby he instructeth his Faithfull that the Elect who would not be drawn to worship their pretended Christ in secrets closets Church-arks cup-boards tabernacles c. should for the same sustain great tribulations The which how egregiously it hath been compleated by the Romanists their persecutions of all times and ages since their generall Councell of Con. Lat. c. 3 Lateran where the same false doctrine was vniuersally decreed with an Anatheme curse against all that should deny the same doth more than manifestly euince Obseruation 4 In the fourth place I obserue out of the manner of our Sauiours Prophecy that these false Prophets were at one and the same time to teach him to bee in sundry Secrets the which as it was neuer done by any other so it is most punctually actuated by them who at the selfe same moment doo proclaim and teach Lo he is heer at Bruxels he If this prophecy bee not fulfild in the popish church let it be shewed where or in what time it hath been or may be more likely fulfilled is there at Mechlines he is there at Rome he is heer at Burgos he is heer at Naples he is there vpon a horse-back he is heer in a lockt closet hee is heer vpon this altar hee is yonder vpon another altar and where not Which my obseruation is more confirmed if it bee considered withall that our Sauiour speaking of the Secrets vseth the plurall number 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in the Secrets in the Penetrals Speciallizing and nominating also these secret places wherein these false Prophets should teach him to be hee neuer nameth city town or countrey or any place fit for conuersation but only Secrets Penetrals that is as I haue proued boxes cup-boards arks tabernacles chests closets and such like Again all the shewing of this pretended Christ that is done was to be accomplished and performed by the false Prophets and false Priests themselues and euen so it is acted in the Roman Church Further these were to seduce the knowne publike visible Church all but the Elect wherein the Romanists doo most reioicingly triumphingly build and rest themselues to the high contempt of all others Obseruation Last Lastly to cōfirm this my interpretation of these words I adde thus out of the Prophet Daniel Dan. 11. 38 39 There wee may reade that Antichrist should for sake the God of his Fathers and with gold and siluer should worship the god Maozim Now Maozim according to the interpretation of the Learnedest hath a double signification in it to weet Summi roboris inhabitatio tabernaculi Of greatest strength and the inhabitation or in-dwelling