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A78447 The censures of the church revived. In the defence of a short paper published by the first classis within the province of Lancaster ... but since printed without their privity or consent, after it had been assaulted by some gentlemen and others within their bounds ... under the title of Ex-communicatio excommunicata, or a Censure of the presbyterian censures and proceedings, in the classis at Manchester. Wherein 1. The dangerousness of admitting moderate episcopacy is shewed. ... 6. The presbyterian government vindicated from severall aspersions cast upon it, ... In three full answers ... Together with a full narrative, of the occasion and grounds, of publishing in the congregations, the above mentioned short paper, and of the whole proceedings since, from first to last. Harrison, John, 1613?-1670.; Allen, Isaac, 17th cent. 1659 (1659) Wing C1669; Thomason E980_22; ESTC R207784 289,546 380

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in the form of Church Government and were for sustance the same with ours But here we understood him and so do still else he is at a further distance from us then we apprehended that he would have all the Incumbent Presbyters or Pastors of the severall Congregations meeting in the severall Chappels within the severall Parishes to have the liberty to be admitted to these Assemblies as Members of them and there to have decisive Votes This we gather from what he grants in his first Proposall Now these Assemblies thus Constituted we sayd are for substance that is in regard of the Essence of them the same with ours where ●all the Pastors of the Churches have liberty to be admitted into them those that are Unbenefic'd Ministers as well as others It 's true we cautioning against moderate Episcopacie could not but be understood that we judged Suffragans and Bishops mentioned in those Proposals as superfluous Additaments to those Assemblies and cautioning against the parting with the Ruling Elder were to be conceived that we judged him to have a right to Vote in those Assemblies as a Member or integrall part of them But yet as that man that hath some superfluous Member suppose a sixth Finger or wants an Hand or Leg or some other usefull and necessary or integrall part or member is for the substance or in regard of his essence the same man in kind with him in whom there is neither deficiency nor redundancy in regard of Members so it may be said concerning the Assemblies proposed by Doctor Vsher though there be both some deficiency in them in regard of some integrall parts and also some redundancy in regard of some superfluous Additaments that they are for substance the same with the Assemblies propounded in the form of Church Government 3 We sayd also in our Answer that the Proposalls of the Assemblies above mentioned were propounded in the yeare one thousand six hundred forty one by Doctor Vsher as an Expedient for the prevention of those Troubles which afterwards did arise about the matter of Church-Government but these things were mentioned by us 1. To shew the wisdome and moderation of the Proposer and how far off he was from the temper of sundry in those times who so they might preserve Episcopacy in the height that it was then grown to did not matter the engaging of three Kingdomes in a bloody War which also they did 2. That he was sensible of the great exorbitancy of Prelacy in those times and did interpose his endeavours to have reduced the Government of the Church neerer to the Primitive Pattern and whereunto it is confessed his Proposalls tended 3. But they were never mentioned by us to intimate that these Proposalls were to be the measure of that Reformation that was to be endeavoured after in these Nations not onely in regard of what we have to say against moderate Episcopacy and of which afterwards anon but also because they having not been hearkened unto by the late King nor by that Party that adhered to him who did their utmost to have upheld Episcopacy in its height it is not equall except what is there propounded could be proved to be necessary and by Divine Right after the effusion of so much blood for the deliverance of the People of God in these Nations from the miserable Yoke of Bondage they then sighed under and after the issuing of the War and the determining of the Controversie against that Party that they should be now admitted of to the Hazard of our dear-bought Liberty and the raysing up againe out of its Grave Episcopacy in the height of it and thereby the inslaving us again in as great Servitude or worse then ever before and of which hereafter further 4. But whereas you fully expect that for Vnity and Peace sake we should submit our selves to these Proposalls and that in regard of those full and free expressions of ours to that purpose we must here crave leave to declare our selves a little more fully 1 And first we do openly profess we are the same still in heart as we were formerly in our expressions neither shall we we hope by any provocations offered us by any Parties we have had to deal with or any oppositions we may hereafter meet with from them so far forget that duty that lyes upon us as not to endeavour after Peace to the utmost yea to pursue it even then when it seems to flye from us We remember that that God in whom we profess to have an Interest is the God of Peace that the Lord Jesus our great Master is stiled the Prince of Peace his precious blood being shed for to purchase it and that thereby the middle Wall of partition being broken down and the Enmity even the Law of Commandments contained in Ordinances being abolished in his flesh he might reconcile both Jews and Gentiles unto God in one body as we do profess we our selves were reconciled thereby unto God when we were Enemies 〈◊〉 We further confess That we are the Ambassadours of the Gospel of Peace that we are called unto Peace that a Blessing is promised unto Peace-makers and that in this juncture of Affairs when the common Enemies to the Protestant Religion are banding together against us it concerns all Parties neerly that have any true measure of soundness in them as they tender the safety of Religion their own and these Nations preservation from utter ruine to endeavour after Peace and Union which is our strength and an healing of Breaches And if we know our own hearts Peace is so deare to us that if through the tender mercies of our God it might be restored againe unto these Churches upon safe and honest tearmes we should not count the purchasing of it with our dearest blood to be too deare a rate to be payd for the obtaining of it considering that by the continuance of our Breaches and Divisions the Name of God is dishonoured his Doctrine blasphemed Scandals do grow are increased the Edification of the Church is hindred the power of Godliness impaired occasion of great stumbling is ministred to the weak and of triumph unto Enemies besides the advantage that is hereby put into their hands to undo us if they should have the opportunity although we must acknowledge it is no small reviving to our dying hopes that yet God may so far have mercy on us as to prevent what we have just ground to fear when we consider how many of our reverend Brethren in the Ministry in the severall Countries throughout the Land have united and associated themselves together and do pithily and earnestly exhort unto Union though some of them be of different Principles and Perswasions and that there is so far as we understand a greater inclination in all that are truly Godly throughout the Land unto Peace and Union then in former times and for which we bless God heartily as we do earnestly pray that the God of Peace would hasten to