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A74671 The bar, against free admission to the Lords Supper, fixed. Or, An answer to Mr. Humphrey his Rejoynder, or, reply. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap, London. R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669. 1656 (1656) Wing D2128; Thomason E1593_1; ESTC R208860 271,720 506

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rather_o bring_v water_n than_o fuel_n to_o this_o fire_n i_o beseech_v you_o sir_n think_v not_o that_o i_o envy_v you_o any_o expression_n i_o think_v too_o many_o of_o your_o expression_n and_o of_o i_o also_o deserve_v rather_o pity_n than_o envy_n can_v we_o not_o seek_v the_o light_n of_o truth_n without_o the_o heat_n of_o passion_n page_n 227._o he_o present_v his_o jury_n of_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o lord_n supper_n a_o converting-ordinance_n his_o first_o argument_n be_v argument_n 1_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o intelligent_a member_n to_o frequent_v the_o sacrament_n but_o officium_fw-la est_fw-la propter_fw-la beneficium_fw-la ergo_fw-la answ_n 1._o i_o deny_v the_o major_a if_o by_o frequent_v the_o sacrament_n he_o mean_v actual_a receive_n otherwise_o it_o militate_v nothing_o against_o we_o who_o grant_v universal_a presence_n 2._o suppose_v some_o benefit_n do_v accrue_v to_o all_o receiver_n must_v that_o benefit_n need_v be_v initial_a conversion_n study_v to_o know_v by_o the_o creation_n be_v a_o duty_n require_v of_o heathen_a and_o no_o doubt_n but_o it_o be_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la beneficial_a to_o they_o but_o do_v it_o thence_o follow_v they_o be_v convert_v by_o this_o study_n of_o nature_n or_o be_v the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n their_o gospel_n this_o for_o the_o minor_a 3._o he_o assert_v untrue_o that_o man_n benefit_n be_v not_o the_o ground_n of_o duty_n he_o have_v as_o good_a say_v the_o promise_n be_v no_o ground_n of_o obedience_n shall_v self_n be_v no_o ground_n of_o duty_n because_o it_o be_v not_o the_o sole_a or_o principal_a ground_n m._n h._n ib._n a_o thing_n be_v not_o good_a and_o our_o duty_n and_o therefore_o god_n will_v it_o but_o god_n will_v it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v good_a and_o our_o duty_n answ_n i_o assent_v full_o to_o the_o latter_a but_o question_v the_o former_a branch_n if_o universal_o understand_v some_o thing_n be_v essential_o good_a and_o therefore_o necessary_o our_o 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unworthy_a must_v not_o receive_v and_o have_v also_o prove_v that_o every_o natural_a man_n be_v evangelical_o unworthy_a i_o hope_v therefore_o m._n h._n will_v be_v as_o good_a as_o his_o word_n in_o this_o place_n in_o yield_v to_o i_o that_o receive_v be_v not_o the_o natural_a man_n daty_n as_o eat_v the_o passover_n be_v not_o the_o unclean_a man_n duty_n m._n h._n p._n 227_o and_o 228._o let_v the_o pious_a reader_n under_v and_o this_o point_n and_o that_o be_v through_o man_n impotency_n to_o make_v void_a god_n authority_n answ_n when_o a_o duty_n in_o thesi_fw-la be_v therefore_o every_o man_n duty_n in_o hypothesi_fw-la then_o m._n h._n speak_v somewhat_o to_o purpose_n be_v there_o not_o many_o duty_n which_o bind_v not_o all_o person_n in_o every_o state_n but_o this_o or_o that_o person_n as_o his_o state_n and_o relation_n vary_v instance_n in_o the_o five_o commandment_n and_o in_o duty_n of_o institured-worship_n of_o which_o nature_n be_v the_o sacrament_n that_o 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12._o m._n h._n his_o 12._o argument_n ib._n the_o solemn_a application_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o a_o man_n self_n according_a to_o his_o estate_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o very_a only_a way_n whereby_o the_o spirit_n usual_o work_v conviction_n and_o sincere_a conversion_n but_o actual_a receive_n be_v a_o solemn_a mean_n of_o such_o a_o application_n ergo._n answ_n 1._o i_o deny_v the_o minor_a as_o to_o the_o second_o branch_n about_o sincere_a conversion_n m._n h._n his_o prossyllogism_n draw_v from_o legal-conviction_n and_o self-judging_a will_v not_o help_v he_o till_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o a_o instantaneous_a act_n of_o legal-conviction_n with_o a_o like_a instantaneous_a and_o hypocritical_a act_n of_o self-judging_a if_o produce_v at_o all_o by_o the_o unworthy_a communicant_a in_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v be_v effectual_a mean_n of_o convert_v such_o a_o obdurate_a sinner_n who_o resist_v all_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o sacrament_n till_o he_o come_v to_o the_o last_o act_n of_o receive_v 2._o the_o forementioned_a application_n may_v be_v make_v with_o less_o danger_n of_o guilt_n by_o presence_n without_o receive_v mr._n h._n p._n 236._o and_o 237._o he_o that_o be_v willing_a to_o go_v on_o in_o his_o sin_n and_o refuse_v jesus_n christ_n i_o will_v not_o gratify_v he_o so_o far_o to_o say_v he_o must_v stay_v away_o this_o be_v doctrine_n after_o the_o flesh_v own_o heart_n answ_n 1._o how_o come_v it_o then_o to_o pass_v that_o the_o most_o fleshly_a man_n be_v usual_a most_o eager_a for_o the_o sacrament_n and_o think_v themselves_o most_o wrong_v when_o keep_v away_o ask_v the_o worst_a in_o every_o parish_n whether_o the_o minister_n gratify_v they_o most_o by_o suspension_n or_o by_o admission_n yet_o 2._o by_o suspension_n we_o affect_v not_o simple_o either_o to_o gratify_v or_o displeasure_n any_o unless_o care_n and_o endeavour_v to_o prevent_v their_o sin_n and_o bring_v they_o to_o save_v knowledge_n and_o grace_n be_v a_o gratification_n or_o displeasure_n and_o i_o hope_v every_o godly_a man_n shall_v be_v willing_a to_o gratify_v all_o nor_o afraid_a to_o displease_v any_o by_o endeavour_n to_o prevent_v their_o sin_n and_o to_o work_v in_o they_o real_a conversion_n what_o ever_o therefore_o m._n h._n be_v please_v to_o insinuate_v p._n 237._o be_v not_o deceive_v as_o if_o by_o abstention_n or_o suspension_n thou_o either_o give_v up_o thyself_o or_o be_v give_v up_o as_o lose_v or_o that_o any_o unworthy_a receiver_n can_v make_v so_o good_a use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o to_o wash_v away_o any_o one_o stain_n of_o sin_n such_o conceit_n may_v puzzle_v and_o trouble_v but_o will_v never_o convert_v or_o edify_v thou_o if_o the_o guilt_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n can_v bring_v thou_o near_a heaven_n then_o may_v unworthy_a receive_n bring_v thou_o thither_o study_v well_o those_o two_o text_n 1_o cor._n 11._o v._n 27_o 29._o and_o thou_o will_v easy_o perceive_v that_o m._n h._n be_v better_a at_o rhetoric_n than_o spiritual_a logic_n attend_v upon_o the_o word_n which_o undoubted_o be_v a_o mean_n and_o have_v clear_a promise_n of_o coversion_n and_o upon_o true_a though_o weak_a discovery_n of_o grace_n come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n as_o god_n second_o chariot_n that_o will_v carry_v thou_o apace_o to_o heaven_n page_z 239-240_a m._n h._n endeavour_n to_o back_o all_o his_o twelve_o argument_n by_o a_o instance_n or_o example_n before_o which_o he_o insert_v these_o word_n whereas_o mr._n drake_n be_v ready_a to_o cite_v i_o before_o the_o great_a tribunal_n i_o may_v appeal_v thither_o to_o those_o many_o saint_n in_o heaven_n together_o with_o this_o party_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o sir_n have_v you_o note_v the_o place_n where_o i_o cite_v you_o before_o the_o great_a tribunal_n you_o have_v do_v i_o a_o favour_n i_o do_v not_o remember_v such_o expression_n and_o shall_v censure_v myself_o for_o rashness_n if_o i_o utter_v such_o word_n without_o a_o very_a weighty_a ground_n 2._o in_o appeal_n thither_o to_o the_o saint_n depart_v how_o ever_o your_o meaning_n may_v be_v good_a the_o expression_n be_v not_o very_o suitable_a to_o protestant_a principle_n but_o i_o let_v it_o pass_v as_o a_o superfluity_n of_o rhetoric_n and_o come_v to_o scan_v the_o instance_n and_o example_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o mr._n fairclough_n report_v faithful_o and_o candid_o according_a to_o what_o he_o apprehend_v by_o information_n and_o observation_n which_o testimony_n mr._n h._n present_n to_o public_a view_n p._n 240._o i_o hope_v verbatim_o without_o addition_n or_o detraction_n only_o here_o i_o entreat_v the_o reader_n to_o note_v three_o particular_n so_o i_o have_v do_v with_o this_o section_n 1._o by_o this_o testimony_n its_o evident_a mr._n f._n differ_v from_o mr._n h._n his_o opinion_n about_o free_a admission_n 2._o that_o thomasin_n bud_n say_v not_o that_o her_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n be_v