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A10170 The other parte of Christian questions and answeares which is concerning the sacraments, writte[n] by Theodore Beza Vezelian: to which is added a large table of the same questions. Translated out of Latine into Englishe by Iohn Field.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. Pars altera. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Fielde, John, d. 1588. 1580 (1580) STC 2045; ESTC S109027 101,745 336

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do_v make_v that_o that_o which_o be_v a_o sacrament_n do_v cease_v too_o have_v the_o reason_n of_o a_o sacrament_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o sacrament_n be_v institute_v to_o be_v use_v like_a as_o wax_v seal_v with_o a_o common_a seal_n do_v differ_v very_o much_o from_o private_a wax_n and_o not_o seal_v but_o unless_o it_o be_v apply_v unto_o a_o instrument_n it_o be_v account_v as_o private_a wax_n 196._o question_n what_o think_v thou_o of_o take_v eat_v and_o drink_v answer_n even_o the_o very_a same_o 197._o question_n but_o what_o if_o there_o be_v any_o fault_n in_o the_o person_n of_o he_o that_o make_v the_o sacrament_n answer_n sure_o this_o that_o if_o he_o be_v a_o mere_a private_a person_n the_o whole_a action_n be_v in_o vain_a as_o we_o have_v say_v in_o baptism_n but_o if_o he_o sit_v in_o the_o chair_n of_o the_o ministry_n albeit_o he_o be_v unlawful_o call_v if_o he_o keep_v the_o institution_n of_o the_o lord_n we_o must_v think_v otherwise_o as_o before_o we_o 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