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A56095 A Protestant plot no paradox, or, Phanaticks under that name plotting against the king and government proved first, from their principles, secondly, from their practices. Tonge, Thomas, d. 1662. 1682 (1682) Wing P3840; ESTC R10620 63,075 38

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all rise by that Letter saies I call the Eternal God to witness that this is no Trepan but a sober Truth Do you think that men who are not ashamed to call the Eternal God to witness to a Lye when 't is to raise Sedition will make any scruple at such protestations at the Bar when 't is to save their lives and if a man may scape by his own protestation who shall ever be found guilty But Gibbs thinks he says a great deal for himself when he says his Neighbours can give great testimony of his good Conversation Alas who will deny to give a good report of a man till he hear evil proved against him But do you think a little demure and sober carriage amongst a mans Neighbours will serve to ballance an Evidence of High-Treason Is not the proof clear that he did both know the Design and approve it Mark what Gibbs tells the company My brother saith he for his part he will not speak before you but if you be honest men this is the News that was spoke like one that was not consenting to it well then what is the News he tells them why the Council of Six are broke up Friday is the day of Action Ludlow is to be General Can any man be privy to these things and relate them so cheerfully and yet not be consenting believe it it is a hard matter to find greater evidence of a knowledge and consent against any Conspirator until he break out into open action Sallers he says that the Witnesses do not agree for Mr. Hill speaks that he said there was Five hundred Arms delivered and Forty men went without Arms but within two or three days there would be more and when Riggs comes to speak he says he did say Arms were delivered and more would be but he did not remember what number and because they agree in the thing but not in the number therefore he thinks they disagree in the matter Observe what reason was there that Riggs comes to enquire of Sallers for Arms because Sallers told him the day before Arms were delivered and more would be he thought therefore he came to a very proper person to tell him If you mark Sallers does deny openly in the Court that ever he saw the face of Hill till he was apprehended although Hill was with Riggs when the Arms were spoken of upon the Exchange And then he says again that Hill speaks by hear-say he is out in that too for Mr. Hill swears expresly he heard the words themselves from Sallers Then here are these before you four witnesses against Tonge two against Phillips and his own confession here is two against Gibbs with these circumstances If you be honest men this is the news c. Here are two Witnesses likewise against Stubbs who was likewise present at all their Debates even when the King himself was to have had the same quarter with Ludlow Now Gentlemen that there was a Conspiracy I think you have a clear Evidence we may thank God and the care of the King and his Ministers that it went no further but 't is no thanks to these men they would have carried it to the extremity had they had power and with out question this was formed by other kind of wits than these poor contemptible Agitators who are now tryed for it You see there was a Council of Forty and an under-Council of Six a Declaration framed to scatter at the time of Action and that Action directed to be both in the City and Country just in effect at the same pitch of time and that it might be so a wicked and an imdent Letter is contrived and many thousand Copies dispersed and it wrought so far that the Countries much about the time appointed were in great disorder as you have heard it proved Is it not plain that an evil spirit went throughout the whole Nation and animated the whole party of Malecontents most evidently it was a terrible Conspiracy Gentlemen 't is true it is a question of Blood but 't is Royal Blood 't is the Blood of Princes and Nobles and it concerns the peace and security of the Kingdom and every mans propriety and of Religion for they had left no man of Conscience or Reputation behind if they had prevailed Consider the Massacre these men would have committed had they prospered and oppose that to the pretended Massacre which they gave out by their Letter the Papists would have committed Consider that you have the life of the King in your hands and I doubt not but he and the whole Kingdom shall always be safe in the Verdict of honest men Sir Robert Foster My Masters of the Jury I cannot speak long to you you understand the nature of this business such as I think you have not had the like president in your time My speech will not give me leave to discourse of it for the Witnesses they are none but such as may satisfy all honest men it is clear they all agreed to subvert the Government to destroy his Majesty what can you have more two of the witnesses are without exception but I do not see any way but their testimony is good For the parties they in themselves are very inconsiderable these are but the out-boughs and if such fellows are not met withal these kind of people are the fittest instruments to set up a Jack-straw and a Wat-Tyler therefore you must lop off these or else they will encourage others You see one of their own company hath confessed the Fact out of remorse of his own conscience But I leave the Evidence to you Go together Officer was Sworn to keep the Jury The Jury withdrawed and after an hours Consultation the Jury returned Silence was commanded and James Hind fetcht from the Goal to the Bar. Clerk of the Peace Gentlemen answer to your names Edmund Butler Clement Pung and the rest of the Jury before mentioned are you all agreed of your Verdict Jury Yes Clerk of the Peace Who shall say for you Jury The Foreman Clerk of the Peace Set up Thomas Tonge to the Bar. Thomas Tonge hold up thy hand Look upon him Masters how say you is he guilty of the Treason whereof he stands Indicted or not guilty Jury Guilty Clerk of Newgate Look to him keeper Clerk of the Peace What Goods and Chattels Jury None Clerk of the Peace George Phillips to the Bar How say you is he guilty of the Treason whereof he stands indicted or not guilty Jury Guilty Clerk of Newgate Look to him keeper Clerk of the Peace What goods and chattels Jury None Clerk of the Peace Francis Stubbs to the Bar How say you is he guilty of the high Treason whereof he stands indicted or not guilty Jury Guilty Clerk of Newgate Look to him Keeper Clerk of the Peace What goods and chattels Jury None Clerk of the Peace John Sallers to the Bar How say you is he guilty of the high Treason whereof he
Traytor is at the same time necessarily a Fool if we consider what he is to expect if he miscarry here if otherwise hereafter for had they no regard continues our Author to the obligations of Conscience yet the respect which they must be apprehended to bear to their own safety will compel them if they have any love for themselves to be loyal to his Majesty That is seldome comes a better they know not how at present to mend themselves and therefore for once are content to bear with him And that this is plainly his meaning appears from that which follows for says he As matters one stated at this day in the world they must forfeit their Reason before they can abandon their Allegiance So that it seems the Saints have their times when they may be Rebels upon good reason and yet the result of all is but this that at this time we cannot reasonably suppose a Protestant Plot which very concession is against them for taking that pro confesso it is neither any principle of Religion or obligation of Conscience but the circumstances of the time that admit not of a Plot. And then what a condition is the King in what reason can he have to trust men who have already once deceived him and do as good as tell him would do again were they not more restrained by fear of the Successor to than any sence of Duty principle of Loyalty or affection to the possessor of the Crown yet even this were some ground for a present security if it were true but there is nothing less so than the asserted reason of the present Loyalty Heretofore indeed when men upon some civil pretence compassed the death of a King their malice mischief went not further than his person and though the Governour fell the Government was preserved but since men have Rebelled upon a Religious account the mischief goes a great deal farther Of instances though History be full two shall suffice great ones indeed viz. the French League and Scotch Covenant In the first the blood of one King was no allay to the sanctified zeal of the Guyzards H. 3. fell but the war was continued with greater height than ever against his Successor H. surnamed the Great upon the score of Religion now with whom they meant to have dissolved that Monarchy and have cantoned the Kingdom The other deadly instance is too well known and 't is very plain from all the events and actions in that War 't was not only the King but the Kingly Office they fought against the Saints are thorough Reformers and go through-stich when a King by them is Murdered the very Foundations of Government are overthrown and 't is made Treason to assert what it would be so now to deny the Supreme Authority in a single person And I doubt not but the Saints of our time would come up to the great example of their renowned Ancestors they seem to plot for a single life though a Royal one all that pretend that way must perish or save their lives by falling down and worshipping Common-wealth that Golden Image which the Saints once did and would again set up He is a took that believes that they who having Murdered the Father and set the Head of the Son to sale would should they Murder the Son have more Kindness for his Brother or that James D. of Y. should escape better when Ch. the Second were killed than the Prince of Wales should had they caught him upon the Murder of Ch. the First But to return to our Author he tells us of another tye Obligations of Conscience and no doubt these should make men honest But how far Conscience is binding in a Fanatick is worth enquiry and I find it resolved to my hand in his Second Part of the No Protestant Plot pag. 1. Where Allegiance is tyed to Interest I know it will change as that does but Conscience should be always the same and yet a true Protestant Conscience is not so for our Author says That 't is possible for a Prince to cancel all bonds by which Subjects are tyed to him and gives for instance wherein viz. his excluding a company of innocent persons from the benefit and protection of the Law for this he assures us destroys all pleas and arguments which may influence their Consciences to obedience that is they are no longer obliged to be obedient to a Governour than they are the better for him so that indeed the Kings Conscience and not their own is the standard of their Allegiance Is this to be subject for Conscience sake I would be thankful to any man that would reconcile the Doctrine of these Protestants with that of St. Paul but they say it needs not 't is an old antiquated conclusion drawn from a proposition not admitted by them Let every Soul be subject to the higher powers there they hold with him whether to the King as supreme there Paul was a Tory and now they differ for the powers that are says that Apostle of Nations speaking still of Kings are ordained of God we deny the Proposition they are made by the peole Now 't is no wonder if denying the Propositions they reject the Conclusion a pretty indulgence that for Rebellion nay it places in the People without appeal from them the right of determining when the King forfeits his Crown And can any man after this with modesty pretend that 't is so very hard so morally impossible for men holding these Principles to be Rebels when by them as I said at first he is in some sort obliged to be so And that these are their Principles any man without much argument thay be perswaded to believe that will take the pains to enquire into and observe their Practice in all times within these forty years There has been a Popish Plot we are sure of that and if conspiring the Death of the King and the Subversion of the Government be a Plot and Fanaticks be Protestants I find at least Three Protestant Plots within that time From Forty One to 1660 I think may pass for one Venner and his Companions for a Second that of that of 1662. of which more hereafter for a third and to make good measure let that in April 1666. be added Of these two last there is extant an account but because the first of these for many reasons is by much the more remarkable I have at the end here added the whole proceedings against those Criminals as the same were exactly taken by the same Gentleman who took and afterwards printed the Trial of the late Kings Regicides The reading of this Tryal is alone sufficient to convince all sober and judicious men that these practious are very natural and suitable to the Principles they flow from Out of Which I have gathered some observations as they affect the present time and do here set them down first that the Reader having some light into the Tryal may the better weigh the