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A04484 An apologie of priuate masse spred abroade in writing without name of the authour: as it seemeth, against the offer and protestacion made in certayne sermons by the reuerent father Bisshop of Salsburie: with an answer to the same Apologie, set foorth for the maintenance and defence of the trueth. Perused and allowed, by the reuerent father in God Edmonde Bisshop of London, accordynge to the order appoincted in the Que'enes maiestes iniunctions. Cooper, Thomas, 1517?-1594. 1562 (1562) STC 14615; ESTC S103938 96,225 290

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holy misteries For when it is once departed from the true sence of gods worde it draweth in as it were by linkes a number of other absudities none of which can haue any profft in scripture seing the first roote of them came not out of the true sence of scripture Euen so when you had deuised and geuen to Christes wordes another sence then the meaninge of them doth importe no maruel if the same reason doo leade you to a multitude of other doctrines not only beside the worde of god but expressely against it Whether that interprefacion that you make uppon these wordes doo more agrée with the scripture and grounde of our faith then that which we teach any indifferent man that is not contentiously bente to the one parte or to the tother may easely discerne Your sence is when Christ saith This is my body that the naturall substance of the breade which Christ toke was turned into the naturall substance of the very body that Christ dyed in notwithstandinge that the colour taste forme and power to nor●she that were before in the substance of bread doth still remanyn● ▪ And yet under those qualities and accidences of bread is really conteined the natural body of Christ hauing neither bignes nor any proportion or sensible qualitie rightly apperteininge to such a body To expresse this your meaning you vse to say that the bread is transsubstantiate into the body of Christ In what tonge or language was it euer séeue In what authour was it euer redde that Sun● es fui the verbe substantiue might be iuterpreted by transsubstantiare Or if the proprietie of the worde wil not in any wise admit that sence what one sentence or clause haue you in all the course of the bible that vnder the like wordes can receiue the like interpretacion Or what prouses can you bringe by conference of other places of the scripture that these ●●●des in this place ought of necessitie in this maner to be interpreted If neyther the proprietie of the tounge can beare the sence nor you can bring any examples or prouses out of the word● of god where vpon men in so weightis a matter may stay their consciences is it not extreame crueltie in you vnder payne of damnasion to compel them to beleue it Here you will burden vs with the aucthoritie of the holy catholike churche which as you say hath alway receiued alowed that interpretacion Vnto this I answer that the catholike churche of Christe neuer generally receiued the meanynge of any sentence but that they gathered the same either by examples of the like or els by grounded reasons taken out of the scripture declared that of necessitie it must be so vnderstanded This rule was appointed to the churche by Christe and his Apostles who in their doubtes willed men Serutari scripturas to searche the scriptures Therfore when the churche decreed against the Arrians and other Heretikes that in this sentence In principio erat verbum the woorde was in the beginnynge that Verbum was to be taken for the person of the sonne of God Or when they decréed that the sonne was eiusdem substantie cum patre of the same substance with the father they stayed not onely vpon their owne consente and aucthoritie but brought a greate number of prouses out of the scripture that it must of necessitie be so taken as it appereth in Cyrill and other of the holy fathers Now then if this that you defend be the iudgement of the catholike church it hath vndoubtedly good proffe in the scripture or if you can bringe for it no such testimony oute of the worde of god it is euydent that you doo wrongfully father this interpretatiō vpon the holy catholike churche and vnder the couert of that name you doo promote set forth your owne errour And this much for your opiniō On the tother parte when wée interprete Christes wordes wée say it is a figuratiue spéeche and suche as the holy ghost often vseth in the institucion of sacramentes and ceremonies or in the deseriuyng of other misteries The figure is named Metonymia when the name of the thynge is geuen vnto the signe When these wordes therefore be laied vnto vs This is my body wée say it is moste true But mistically sacramentally figuratiuely not really and accordyng to the naturall substance For this interpretacion wée haue a number of examples out of the canonicall scriptures God speakynge of circumsicion saieth This is my couenante And yet was circumsicion not the couenante indéede but the signe testimonie wherby they were assured to be the people of God and partakers of his promisses The Paschale lambe is called the Passeouer and yet was it but a testimony and remembrāce of the greate benefite of God in passyng his plague from them This is the victorie saieth S. Paule that ouercome the world euen your faith And yet is not our faith the victorie it selfe but the instrument or meanes wherby the victorie is gotten In like maner diuers other places As I am a vyne God is a consumyng fier The seuen kine be seuen yeres And that S. Paule hath to the Corinthes Petracrat Christus The rocke was Christe And yet was not the rocke Christe himselfe really onlesse ye will take it as hee there doeth indéede for the spirituall rocke For that spirituall rocke was Christe himself verely and indéede not only in a misterie or signification So in the Lordes supper if you take bread for spirituall bread as Christe doth in the .vi. of Iohn I will say with you that it is really and essentially the verie true body of Christe it selfe and not onely mistically If wée had not these many examples with a greate number mee in the holy scripture to iustifie our maner of interpretacion yet the very wordes whiche the spirit of God by singuler prouidence hath vsed in the Euangelist and S. Paule doeth manifestly leade vs vnto this sence rather then to that you haue deuised For in the seconde parte of the sacrament where Math. and Marke say This is my bloud of the new Testament That Luke and Paule vtter in this maner This is the new Testament in my bloud Whiche can not be otherwise vnderstande but that this sacramēt is a testimonie or pledge of his laste will and gifte of our saluacion confirmed by his moste precious bloud Wherfore if you say neuer so often times with Math. and Marke This is my body This is my bloud wee wyll repete as often with Luke and Paule who were led with the same spirit This is the new Testament in my body and bloud This interpretacion and meanyng of Christes wordes which wée gather by conference with other places of holy scripture is confirmed also by the consent of the aunciente fathers in many places Whose testimonies I wil recite more copiously partely because you séeme to signifie that they altogether make for you in this mattier partely that all men may se how vniustly your sorte
Doeth not the Apostels proue it at large But for as much as you are not able to proue the negatiue I will no further trouble you therwith Yet when there is an affirmatiue imploied in the negatiue as there is here thoughe I discharge you of very gentilnes from the proufe of th one order of schooles will driue you to proue the other though it were in factes muche more in doctrine Your negatiue was 2. Cap. that there was no priuate Masse at all in the primatiue churche thus you say and shewe no cause why This terme priuate A distictiō of priuate whiche you in this place first inuented I meane Luthers schoole may be taken concerning this matter diuers waies One way priuate is contrarie to common A. to many And in this significacion wée neuer saied that any Masse was priuate For the catholike church euer taught that the Masse is a common or publique sacrifice restrained to none so but that the whole churche or any liuely membre therof had thereby great commoditée and might beyng prepared and well disposed bee partaker not onely of the common Praier and Suffrages offered vp to God in the Masse but also of the holy sacramente of Christes body and bloud therin consecrated and offered Wée neuer yet prisoned vp the holy Sacrifice of the Masse or the sacramente therin receiued or the vse of ani of them from any that disposed them selues godly If you had harde vs preache that the Masse is onely auailable to the priest or to princes or to vs of England or to them of Italie or to men and not to women or to such as are aliue and not to suche as are dead or to say that none ought to receiue the Sacrament but the priest you might haue charged vs that wée wente aboute to enclose that to some one sorte of priuate profit that ought to remaine in common for all sortes of people And in this wise wée neuer taught that any Masse was priuate But you haue the other significacion of this terme priuate B. That is the soole receiuynge of the Sacramente by the priest imbarrynge none to communicate with him yea rather reioysing if any would be so wel disposed to receiue with him And lamentynge when he séeth the people so euill disposed that none will order theim selues so that they may worthely receiue with him And yet not forsying theim to receiue when they are not disposed nor readie And in this meanyng of priuate the catholike churche doeth teache that the priest may receiue the Sacramente at Masse alone when none other is disposed to receiue with him Now if you be able wee require you to proue thaffirmatiue included in your negatiue Whiche is this That euery priest or any other ought when he receiueth the sacrament to haue companie to receiue with him in the same time and place vpon payne of Gods high indignation and then wee will yelde vnto you If you be able to proue neither the negatiue nor the affirmatiue storme not so sore against the doctrine of the catholik churche the whiche falsehed many times assaulteth and was neuer yet able to ouerthrow As you say 3. Cap. there was no priuate Masse in the primatiue church and say vntruly so may you say and say truly there was no christian kynge in the Apostles time That all thynges shuld not be brought to the forme of the primatiue churche There was no christian man that then counted any thinge his owne of suche thynges as he possessed but all were common There was then no doctrine taught but it was confirmed by miracles There was no woman that might come with open face to the churche There was no Bisshop indewed with temporaltées There was no distinction commonly of parishes There was nothyng eaten that was mingled with bloud There was no whole realmes turned to the fayth There was no receuyng of the Sacrament but after supper There was no infant but was housled And thus may wée rolle in a greate sorte suche there was not truly as you rolle in diuers of yours falsly And will you I beséeche ye reforme al thynges to the very state of the primatiue churche now Will you suppresse al christian kyngꝭ which were not in the Apostels time A. Wyll you alter the state now and make all thinges to be common Wyll you disgrace all preachers that woorke not miracles Wyl you inforce women to hoodwinke them selues in the churche will you rayle against bisshoppes that kéepe any temporalties Wyll ye set men at liberty to doo their duty at what churche they will Wyll ye inhibit the folkes to eate bluddynges or Pigions or Capons suche as are killed by stiffilyng Will you inforce vs to be houseled after supper Wyll you housell all babes and infantes againe B. To call suche thynges to the state of the Apostels time The primatiue churche the state of infācie and of the primatiue church againe is nothyng els but to enforce a taule man to come to his swadlynge clothes and to crie alarme in his cradel again I trust when you say there was no priuate Masse in the primatiue churche not withstandinge you disalowe priuate Masse yet you wil alowe Masse to bee in the primatiue churche or els wisdome would haue sayed more generally there was no Masse at all nor priuate nor common c. And yet there is an open difference betwéen these two sentences there was no priuate Masse at that time and there ought to be no priuate Masse at any time In the one wée conceiue the vse of that age not withstandynge the law of the churche euen then might stande indifferently to the contrarie vpon circumstances and good consideracions And in the other wée precisely conceiue what the lawe doeth determine either lawfull or vnlawfull The constant faith C. the pure life An argumente of the cōparison of the times the feruent charitée the contempte of the worlde that then florisshed so amongest such as professed Christ might cause perhappes that no Masse was celibrated but that diuers christians and specially lookyng for continuall persecucion would be houseled there at and be alwaies sure to haue their viaticū as it is termed in the olde Cannons that is to say their v●age prouision In that state of burnynge charitée and of contempt of the worlde and al the pleasures therof some of the people perhaps of their owne accorde did alwaies willyngly and gladly prepare theim selues at euery Masse to be housled with the priest And will you now in the state of keycolde charitée D. when the people are nothyng willyng to dispose theim selues to receiue their housill E. plucke the priest from the aulter whose office as to offer that dayly sacrifice for the people vnlesse ther be that wil receiue Will you imbarre him that is bounde to offer vp the dayly sacrifice of dutie because they will not dispose theim selues to receiue their housill Who as concernyng so