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A letter of a French Protestant to a Scotishman of the Covenant VVherein one of their chiefe pretences is removed, which is their conformitie with the French churches in points of discipline and obedience.
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Du Moulin, Peter, 1601-1684.
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STC 7345; ESTC S111088
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