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daillé_n apol._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n
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no_o other_o subject_n or_o thing_n at_o all_o but_o christ_n body_n yet_o it_o connote_v beside_o it_o the_o place_n or_o manner_n of_o its_o presence_n signify_v this_o body_n only_o as_o present_v in_o the_o mystery_n not_o as_o a_o term_n adequate_a to_o and_o convertible_a with_o it_o be_v in_o whatever_o time_n and_o place_n place_n 15_o i_o think_v these_o testimony_n produce_v both_o out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o other_o catholic_n author_n and_o also_o out_o of_o protestant_n confess_v so_o much_o of_o they_o do_v show_v sufficient_o the_o great_a extravagancy_n of_o those_o protestant_a author_n who_o tell_v their_o reader_n that_o the_o state_n of_o this_o controversy_n be_v not_o whether_o christ_n body_n and_o so_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v adorable_a with_o supreme_a honour_n but_o whether_o the_o sacrament_n and_o then_o by_o sacrament_n be_v please_v to_o understand_v the_o symbol_n and_o then_o to_o confute_v the_o doctrine_n of_o rome_n argue_v that_o no_o creature_n as_o the_o symbol_n be_v be_v capable_a of_o divine_a honour_n the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n say_v a_o late_a writer_n of_o they_o 117._o they_o stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n p._n 117._o be_v whether_o proper_a divine_a worship_n in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v
fide_fw-la directe_v pugnante_fw-la ut_fw-la superiore_fw-la libro_fw-la ostensum_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la quod_fw-la veer_fw-la adorandum_fw-la est_fw-la adorant_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n enim_fw-la ment_fw-la discernendum_fw-la esse_fw-la christum_fw-la a_o visibili_fw-la signo_fw-la docent_fw-la ipsi_fw-la &_o christum_fw-la quidem_fw-la adorandum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quia_fw-la species_n illae_fw-la sunt_fw-la res_fw-la creatae_fw-la &_o inanimes_fw-la &_o consequenter_fw-la incapace_n adorationis_fw-la and_o ibid._n show_v the_o greek_a and_o eastern_a church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a to_o use_v it_o he_o conclude_v quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n de_fw-fr repub._n eccles_n 7._o l._n 11._o c._n n._n 6._o respondeo_fw-la say_v he_o i_o nullum_fw-la idololatricum_fw-la crimen_fw-la in_o adoratione_n eucharistiae_fw-la si_fw-la recte_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la intentio_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la docent_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la illi_fw-la profecto_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la veer_fw-la adorabile_fw-la adorant_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la nostri_fw-la dicunt_fw-la species_n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la accidentia_fw-la illa_fw-la esse_fw-la adoranda_fw-la bishop_n bramhal_o cite_v before_o before_o 6._o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v say_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n formal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v some_o of_o your_o author_n we_o say_v the_o same_o the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v other_o that_o we_o deny_v thus_o he_o d._n tailor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v p._n 258._o confess_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o idolater_n in_o this_o kind_n at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o worship_v bread_n or_o any_o creature_n with_o divine_a worship_n and_o as_o god_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a say_v he_o that_o the_o object_n of_o their_o adoration_n that_o which_o be_v represent_v to_o they_o in_o their_o mind_n their_o thought_n and_o purpose_n and_o by_o which_o god_n principal_o if_o not_o sole_o take_v estimate_n of_o humane_a action_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n hypostatical_o join_v with_o his_o holy_a humanity_n which_o humanity_n they_o believe_v actual_o under_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o be_v idololatrical_a i._n e._n as_o to_o the_o direct_v this_o their_o divine_a worship_n to_o a_o undue_a object_n object_n 31_o which_o thing_n if_o say_v right_a by_o he_o and_o the_o other_o the_o same_o dr._n taylor_n be_v faulty_a in_o his_o charge_n in_o real_a presence_n p._n 334._o faulty_a i_o say_v in_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o right_a object_n in_o a_o someway_n unlawful_a and_o prohibit_v manner_n this_o we_o be_v not_o here_o examine_v but_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n of_o adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n instead_o of_o god_n for_o so_o he_o charge_v they_o there_o if_o say_v he_o there_o they_o be_v deceive_v in_o their_o own_o strict_a article_n he_o mean_v of_o transubstantiation_n than_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n in_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o image_n the_o sacrament_n and_o representment_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n thus_o he_o when_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n as_o he_o say_v before_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v and_o must_v say_v if_o he_o will_v say_v truth_n so_o faulty_a be_v also_o daille_n reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o in_o his_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o worship_v bread_n upon_o this_o argue_v catholic_n adore_v that_o substance_n that_o be_v veil_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o this_o substance_n be_v bread_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v bread._n by_o which_o argue_v he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o lutheran_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o adore_v a_o worm_n or_o a_o mire_n thus_o the_o lutheran_n adore_v that_o substance_n which_o be_v join_v with_o the_o bread_n but_o that_o substance_n be_v a_o worm_n or_o mite_n for_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v there_o with_o the_o bread_n at_o such_o time_n of_o adoration_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v a_o worm_n whereas_o both_o the_o catholic_n and_o lutheran_n explain_v the_o indefinite_a term_n that_o which_o use_v in_o the_o major_a proposition_n restrictive_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o exclusive_o to_o any_o other_o substance_n whatever_o that_o be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o either_o with_o the_o bread_n or_o under_o its_o accident_n faulty_a also_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o in_o say_v the_o protestant_n controversy_n with_o catholic_n be_v whether_o proper_a divine_a worship_n in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o element_n on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n under_o they_o p._n 117._o and_o as_o for_o the_o passage_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 13._o c._n 5._o urge_v by_o he_o there_o for_o it_o his_o mistake_n be_v show_v before_o before_o 12._o and_o so_o faulty_a in_o his_o conclude_v p._n 118._o that_o the_o immediate_a term_n of_o that_o divine_a worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n be_v the_o external_a and_o visible_a sign_n or_o element_n and_o again_o p._n 124._o that_o upon_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n no_o man_n can_v be_v satisfy_v that_o he_o worship_v not_o a_o mere_a creature_n with_o divine_a honour_n when_o he_o give_v adoration_n to_o the_o host_n whenas_o catholic_n expound_v themselves_o to_o mean_v by_o host_n in_o their_o adoration_n not_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacramentum_fw-la but_o rem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la again_o p._n 125_o 127_o 129._o that_o suppose_v the_o divine_a nature_n present_a in_o any_o thing_n give_v no_o ground_n upon_o that_o account_n to_o give_v the_o same_o worship_n to_o the_o thing_n wherein_o it_o be_v present_a catholic_n grant_v this_o as_o much_o as_o he_o and_o do_v not_o himself_o say_v several_a time_n that_o catholic_n condemn_v the_o worship_v of_o a_o mere_a creature_n for_o idolatry_n see_v see_v 4._o p._n 120._o if_o say_v he_o it_o shall_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a creature_n that_o i_o adore_v all_o the_o world_n can_v excuse_v i_o from_o idolatry_n and_o my_o own_o church_n he_o mean_v the_o roman_a condemn_v i_o all_o agree_v that_o this_o be_v gross_a idolatry_n again_o p._n 119._o it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o principle_n indisputable_a among_o they_o i._n e._n catholic_n that_o to_o give_v proper_a divine_a honour_n to_o a_o creature_n be_v idolatry_n again_o p._n 126._o he_o say_v he_o find_v it_o general_o agree_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n consider_v alone_o i._n e._n without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n to_o the_o divinity_n aught_o not_o to_o have_v divine_a honour_n give_v to_o it_o be_v therefore_o neither_o any_o other_o creature_n whatever_o that_o be_v not_o hypostatical_o unite_v as_o none_o beside_o it_o be_v all_o these_o i_o say_v faulty_a and_o mistake_v in_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o this_o species_n of_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v a_o creature_n the_o bread_n instead_o of_o christ_n from_o which_o the_o other_o protestant_n clear_v it_o it_o 32_o last_o dr._n hammond_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o idolatry_n idolatry_n 64._o upon_o supposition_n that_o the_o ignorance_n or_o error_n of_o catholic_n be_v ground_v on_o misunderstanding_n of_o scripture_n i_o add_v so_o expound_v to_o they_o by_o the_o supreme_a church-authority_n seem_v to_o charge_v they_o rather_o with_o a_o material_a than_o a_o formal_a idolatry_n which_o material_a idolatry_n in_o many_o case_n be_v or_o may_v be_v commit_v without_o sin_n as_o also_o material_a adultery_n and_o the_o like_a his_o word_n be_v that_o if_o it_o be_v demand_v whether_o in_o this_o case_n that_o their_o ignorance_n or_o error_n be_v ground_v on_o misunderstanding_n of_o scripture_n this_o so_o simple_a and_o not_o gross_a ignornace_n may_v serve_v for_o a_o sufficient_a antidote_n to_o ally_v the_o poison_n of_o such_o a_o sin_n of_o material_a though_o perhaps_o in_o they_o not_o formal_a 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10._o who_o in_o pitch_v especial_o on_o this_o point_n adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n as_o hinder_v the_o protestant_n long_a stay_n in_o the_o roman_a communion_n have_v in_o this_o discourse_n and_o in_o two_o reply_v to_o chaumont_n make_v afterward_o in_o defence_n of_o it_o discuss_v it_o more_o particular_o than_o many_o other_o in_o answer_n to_o s._n ambrose_n and_o s._n austin_n their_o adore_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n the_o humanity_n of_o jesus_n christ_n say_v he_o personal_o unite_v to_o the_o divinity_n be_v by_o consequence_n true_o and_o proper_o adorable_a and_o again_o they_o only_o adore_v jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n we_o agree_v to_o and_o ibid._n p._n 29._o we_o do_v willing_o adore_v jesus_n christ_n who_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n namely_o by_o faith_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o communicant_n etc._n etc._n and_o see_v dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o roman_a idol_n c._n 2._o p._n 114._o the_o question_n say_v he_o between_o we_o be_v not_o whether_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v with_o divine_a worship_n for_o that_o we_o free_o acknowledge_v and_o although_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n of_o itself_o can_v yield_v we_o no_o sufficient_a reason_n for_o adoration_n he_o must_v mean_v divine_v yet_o be_v consider_v as_o unite_v to_o the_o divine_a nature_n that_o can_v hinder_v the_o same_o divine_a worship_n be_v give_v to_o his_o person_n which_o belong_v to_o his_o divine_a nature_n any_o more_o than_o the_o robe_n of_o a_o prince_n can_v take_v off_o from_o the_o honour_n due_a unto_o he_o though_o how_o well_o that_o which_o he_o say_v before_o ibid._n ibid._n 2._o as_o it_o seem_v against_o worship_v christ_n suppose_v present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n without_o a_o special_a command_n to_o do_v it_o consist_v with_o what_o he_o say_v here_o and_o with_o what_o follow_v let_v he_o look_v to_o it_o 4._o it_o be_v affirm_v by_o many_o protestant_n 1._o protestant_n 5._o n._n 1._o especial_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v real_o present_a not_o only_o in_o virtue_n but_o in_o substance_n in_o the_o eucharist_n either_o with_o the_o symbol_n immediate_o upon_o the_o consecration_n or_o at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o be_v receive_v in_o the_o eucharist_n together_o with_o the_o symbol_n by_o every_o worthy_a communicant_a and_o that_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v not_o sever_v from_o his_o person_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n see_v 1._o for_o a_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n i_o mean_v at_o least_o to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n contradistinct_a to_o a_o presence_n by_o effect_n only_o influence_n virtue_n grace_n or_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unite_n we_o to_o christ_n body_n in_o heaven_n dr._n tailor_n of_o real_a presence_n p._n 12._o when_o the_o word_n real_a say_v he_o be_v deny_v i._n e._n by_o protestant_n as_o it_o be_v in_o king_n edward_n time_n the_o word_n real_a be_v take_v for_o natural_a i._n e._n as_o he_o explain_v it_o p._n 5._o including_z not_o only_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o body_n for_o that_o be_v the_o substance_n but_o the_o corporal_a and_o natural_a manner_n of_o its_o existence_n he_o go_v on_o but_o the_o word_n substantialiter_fw-la be_v also_o use_v by_o protestant_n in_o this_o question_n which_o i_o suppose_v may_v be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o article_n of_o trent_n sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la salvator_n substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la nobis_fw-la adest_fw-la in_o substance_n but_o after_o a_o sacramental_a manner_n see_v the_o confession_n of_o beza_n and_o the_o french_a protestant_n relate_v by_o hosp_n hist._n sacram._n part_n ult_n p._n 251._o fatemur_fw-la in_o coena_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la omne_fw-la christi_fw-la beneficia_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsam_fw-la etiam_fw-la filii_fw-la hominis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la ipsam_fw-la inquam_fw-la veram_fw-la âarnem_fw-la &_o verum_fw-la illum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la quem_fw-la fudit_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la non_fw-la significari_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la aut_fw-la symbolice_n typice_n vel_fw-la figurate_a proponi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la absentis_fw-la memoriam_fw-la sed_fw-la veer_fw-la ac_fw-la certo_fw-la repraesentari_fw-la exhiberi_fw-la &_o applicanda_fw-la osserri_fw-la adjunctis_fw-la symbolis_fw-la minime_fw-la nudis_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la promittentem_fw-la &_o offerentem_fw-la attinet_fw-la semper_fw-la rem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la veer_fw-la ac_fw-la certo_fw-la conjunctam_fw-la habeant_fw-la sive_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la sive_fw-la infidelibus_fw-la proponantur_fw-la again_o beza_n epist_n 68_o speak_v against_o alemannus_n and_o some_o other_o who_o oppose_v a_o substantial_a presence_n volunt_fw-la say_v he_o ex-gallica_n confession_n art._n 36._o &_o liturgia_fw-la catech._n din._n 53._o expungi_fw-la substantiae_fw-la vocem_fw-la idcirco_fw-la de_fw-la industria_fw-la passim_fw-la a_o calvino_n &_o a_o i_o usurpatam_fw-la ut_fw-la eorum_fw-la calumniae_fw-la occurreremus_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la clamitant_fw-la prore_n sacramenti_fw-la non_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christum_fw-la sed_fw-la ejus_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la dona_fw-la &_o energiam_fw-la ponere_fw-la and_o epist._n 5._o he_o argue_v thus_o against_o the_o same_o alemannus_n velim_fw-la igitur_fw-la te_fw-la imprimis_fw-la intueri_fw-la christi_fw-la verba_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la sanguis_fw-la meus_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la funditur_fw-la age_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la vocibus_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la dicamus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la efficacia_fw-la mortis_fw-la meae_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la spiritus_fw-la meus_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la effunditur_fw-la quid_fw-la ineptius_fw-la est_fw-la hac_fw-la oratione_fw-la nam_fw-la certe_fw-la verba_fw-la illa_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la funditur_fw-la necessario_fw-la huc_fw-la te_fw-la adigunt_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la ipsamet_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la substantia_fw-la hoc_fw-la intelligere_fw-la cogaris_fw-la see_v hooker_n eccles_n pol._n 5._o l._n 67._o 67._o p._n 357._o wherefore_o shall_v the_o world_n continue_v still_o distract_v and_o rend_v with_o so_o manifold_a contention_n when_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o controversy_n save_v only_o about_o the_o subject_n where_o christ_n be_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n rest_v doubtful_a in_o this_o but_o whither_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v christ_n be_v whole_a within_o man_n only_o or_o else_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v also_o external_o seat_v in_o the_o very_a consecrate_a element_n themselves_o but_o a_o great_a controversy_n sure_o there_o will_v be_v beside_o this_o if_o the_o one_o party_n hold_v christ_n body_n substantial_o and_o the_o other_o virtual_o present_a again_o p._n 360._o all_o three_o opinion_n do_v thus_o far_o accord_v in_o one_o etc._n etc._n that_o these_o holy_a mystery_n receive_v in_o due_a manner_n do_v instrumental_o both_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o that_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o be_v give_v for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n and_o beside_o also_o impart_v unto_o we_o even_o in_o true_a and_o real_a though_o mystical_a manner_n the_o very_a person_n of_o our_o lord_n himself_o whole_a perfect_a and_o entire_a thus_o also_o bishop_n andrews_n resp_n ad_fw-la apol._n bell._n 1._o cap._n p._n 11._o nobis_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la de_fw-la objecto_fw-la convenit_fw-la de_fw-la modo_fw-la lie_fw-la omnis_fw-la est_fw-la but_o there_o will_v be_v a_o lis_fw-fr concern_v the_o object_n if_o one_o affirm_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n there_o the_o other_o only_o the_o virtue_n or_o efficacy_n see_v bishop_n cousin_n his_o late_a historia_n transubstantiationis_fw-la do_fw-mi cap._n 2._o protestantium_fw-la omnium_fw-la consensus_fw-la de_fw-fr real_a 2._o real_a 5._o n._n 2._o id_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la carnali_fw-la praesentia_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n manifest_a constat_fw-la and_o in_o proof_n of_o this_o p._n 10._o he_o quote_v poinet_n bishop_n of_o winchester_n his_o dialacticon_n de_fw-fr veritate_fw-la natura_fw-la atque_fw-la substantia_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n quoth_v say_v he_o non_fw-la alio_fw-la consilio_fw-la edidit_fw-la quam_fw-la ut_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o doctrinam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n illustraret_fw-la et_fw-la primo_fw-la ostendit_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la figuram_fw-la esse_fw-la corporis_fw-la domini_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsam_fw-la veritatem_fw-la naturam_fw-la atque_fw-la substantiam_fw-la in_o se_fw-la comprehendere_fw-la idcirco_fw-la nec_fw-la have_v voces_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o substantiae_fw-la fugiendas_fw-la esse_fw-la veteres_n enimde_v hoc_fw-la sacramento_n disserentes_fw-la ita_fw-la locutos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la secundo_fw-la quaerit_fw-la a_o voces_fw-la illae_fw-la veritas_fw-la natura_fw-la &_o substantia_fw-la communi_fw-la more_fw-it in_fw-la hoc_fw-la mysterio_fw-la a_o veteribus_fw-la intelligebantur_fw-la a_o peculiari_fw-la &_o sacramentis_fw-la magis_fw-la accommodata_fw-la ratione_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la observandum_fw-la esse_fw-la solum_fw-la
opinionem_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la plus_fw-la imo_fw-la etiam_fw-la minus_fw-la coloris_fw-la quam_fw-la scholasticorum_fw-la &_o papae_fw-la and_o see_v the_o same_o judgement_n of_o the_o helvetian_a minister_n and_o calvin_n apud_fw-la hospinian_n f._n 212._o but_o next_o catholic_n sound_v their_o adoration_n not_o on_o transubstantiation_n but_o on_o corporal_a presence_n the_o same_o common_a ground_n of_o this_o they_o have_v with_o lutheran_n viz._n our_o lord_n word_n imply_v and_o so_o it_o must_v excuse_v both_o or_o neither_o neither_o 24_o 2._o lay_v aside_o this_o comparison_n let_v we_o view_v more_o particular_o what_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n exhibit_v of_o this_o their_o belief_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o so_o of_o adoration_n i._o this_o their_o ground_n then_o of_o such_o a_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n after_o a_o possibility_n thereof_o grant_v also_o by_o sober_a protestant_n 62._o protestant_n see_v 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part_n will_v burn_v all_o his_o argument_n against_o it_o and_o make_v public_a amends_o amends_o 25_o ii_o again_o catholic_n have_v for_o their_o rational_a ground_n of_o follow_v this_o sense_n in_o opposition_n to_o any_o other_o give_v by_o sectary_n the_o declaration_n of_o it_o by_o the_o most_o supreme_a and_o universal_a church-authority_n that_o have_v be_v assemble_v in_o former_a time_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o this_o controversy_n long_o before_o the_o birth_n of_o protestantism_n a_o brief_a account_n of_o which_o council_n to_o the_o number_n of_o seven_o or_o eight_o if_o the_o second_o nicene_n act._n 6._o tom_n 3._o be_v reckon_v with_o the_o rest_n before_o that_o of_o trent_n all_o agree_v in_o the_o same_o sentence_n see_v concern_v the_o guide_n in_o controversy_n disc_n 1._o 1._o 57_o etc._n etc._n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o which_o council_n say_v to_o establish_v such_o a_o doctrine_n as_o bishop_n cousin_n hist_o transub_fw-la c._n 7._o p._n 149._o 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9_o the_o author_n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la ascribe_v to_o the_o same_o father_n 4._o l._n 4_o and_o 5._o chapter_n cyril_n hierosol_n cateche_n mystagog_n 4_o &_o 5._o chrysost_o in_o matt._n hom._n 83._o in_o act._n hom._n 21._o in_o 1_o cor._n hom._n 24._o greg._n nissen_n orat._n catechet_n ch_n 36_o 37._o euseb_n emissen_n or_o caesarius_n arelatensis_fw-la de_fw-fr paschate_n serm._n 5._o hilarius_n pictav_n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o 8_o book_n cyril_n alexand._n in_o evangel_n joan._n l._n 10._o c._n 13._o concern_v the_o authenticalness_n of_o which_o piece_n enough_o also_o have_v be_v say_v elsewhere_o elsewhere_o 27_o iu._n in_o a_o consequence_n of_o and_o succession_n from_o this_o doctrine_n of_o those_o primitive_a time_n and_o of_o the_o late_a council_n of_o the_o church_n when_o this_o point_n be_v bring_v into_o some_o dispute_n and_o controversy_n a_o catholic_n have_v for_o a_o rational_a ground_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o practice_n the_o universal_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a
both_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n till_o luther_n time_n and_o at_o the_o present_a also_o except_v his_o follower_n for_o the_o eastern_a church_n dispute_v by_o some_o protestant_n both_o their_o belief_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n with_o the_o symbol_n and_o practice_n of_o adoration_n see_v what_o have_v be_v say_v at_o large_a in_o the_o guide_n in_o controversy_n disc_n 3._o c._n 8._o where_o also_o be_v exhibit_v the_o testimony_n of_o many_o learned_a protestant_n free_o concede_v it_o and_o again_o in_o consideration_n on_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n trent_n 321._o n._n 22._o p._n 313._o and_o n._n 9_o p._n 294._o see_v also_o the_o late_a eminent_a evidence_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o practice_n of_o these_o eastern_a church_n at_o this_o day_n collect_v by_o mounseur_fw-fr arnaud_n in_o his_o two_o reply_n to_o claude_n a_o brief_a account_n whereof_o also_o be_v give_v in_o the_o guide_n disc_n 3._o 3._o 81._o n._n 2_o etc._n etc._n in_o which_o matter_n whereas_o one_o of_o the_o chief_a and_o common_a plea_n of_o protestant_n be_v the_o greek_a and_o eastern_a church_n their_o according_a with_o they_o whereby_o they_o seem_v to_o outnumber_n the_o roman_a if_o any_o will_v but_o take_v the_o courage_n notwithstanding_o his_o secular_a interest_n candid_o to_o examine_v it_o i_o doubt_v not_o he_o will_v receive_v a_o full_a satisfaction_n last_o see_v d._n blondel_n one_o much_o esteem_v by_o protestant_n for_o his_o knowledge_n in_o ancient_a church-history_n grant_v a_o alteration_n in_o the_o doctrine_n concern_v our_o lord_n presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n a_o alteration_n he_o mean_v from_o that_o which_o be_v now_o maintain_v by_o protestant_n and_o be_v by_o the_o former_a antiquity_n begin_v in_o the_o greek_a church_n after_o a._n d._n 754._o 15._o 754._o esclaireissement_n sur_fw-fr l'_fw-mi eucharistie_n c._n 15._o i._n e._n begin_v so_o soon_o as_o any_o dispute_n happen_v in_o the_o eastern_a church_n concern_v this_o presence_n which_o dispute_n be_v first_o occasion_v there_o upon_o a_o argument_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o eucharist_n and_o urge_v against_o image_n by_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n under_o constantius_n copronymus_n and_o be_v contradict_v by_o damascen_n and_o short_o by_o the_o 2d_o nicene_n council_n in_o which_o opinion_n of_o the_o 2d_o nicene_n council_n and_o damascen_n blondel_n free_o acknowledge_v the_o greek_a church_n to_o have_v continue_v to_o this_o day_n see_v c._n 16._o p._n 399._o again_o grant_v a_o alteration_n in_o the_o same_o doctrine_n as_o be_v say_v before_o begin_v in_o the_o western_a church_n a._n d._n 818._o 18._o 818._o see._n ibid._n c._n 18._o i._n e._n as_o soon_o as_o the_o like_a dispute_n happen_v about_o this_o point_n in_o the_o western_a part_n which_o dispute_n there_o be_v occasion_v by_o the_o council_n hold_v at_o frankfort_n under_o charles_n the_o great_a oppose_v the_o expression_n of_o the_o foresay_a constantinopolitan_a council_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n have_v do_v before_o last_o if_o we_o ask_v he_o what_o this_o alteration_n in_o the_o east_n first_o and_o afterward_o in_o the_o west_n be_v 1._o he_o make_v it_o muchwhat_a the_o same_o in_o both_o and_o then_o he_o explain_v it_o to_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o impanation_n or_o consubstantiation_n or_o assumption_n of_o the_o bread_n by_o our_o lord_n christ_n his_o word_n c._n 19_o be_v these_o des_fw-mi l'_fw-fr an._n 818._o etc._n etc._n some_o among_o the_o latin_n do_v as_o it_o be_v in_o imitation_n of_o the_o greek_a conceive_v a_o kind_n of_o consubstantiation_n partly_o like_a partly_o unlike_a to_o what_o many_o german_n he_o mean_v lutheran_n now_o maintain_v which_o to_o speak_v proper_o aught_o to_o be_v call_v impanation_n or_o assumption_n of_o the_o bread_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god._n and_o c._n 20._o he_o go_v on_o the_o opinion_n of_o paschasius_fw-la who_o he_o make_v leader_n 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bellarmin_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 3._o c._n 13._o &_o 15._o or_o in_o suarez_n de_fw-fr sacrament_n disp_n 49._o but_o 3._o see_v in_o consideration_n on_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n trent_n 321._o n._n 13._o and_o n._n 16._o etc._n etc._n that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o damascen_n and_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o afterward_o of_o paschasius_fw-la and_o the_o latin_a before_o innocent_a the_o three_o time_n be_v plain_a transubstantiation_n and_o be_v misrepresent_v by_o blondel_n for_o impanation_n and_o therefore_o never_o have_v the_o greek_a church_n hitherto_o have_v any_o contest_v or_o clash_v with_o the_o roman_a concern_v this_o point_n and_o see_v the_o concession_n also_o of_o other_o protestant_n very_o frequent_a and_o more_o candid_a of_o transubstantiation_n hold_v by_o the_o greek_a church_n of_o late_a time_n as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o roman_a produce_v in_o the_o rational_a account_n concern_v the_o guide_n in_o controversy_n disc_n 3._o c._n 8._o 4_o lie_n last_o these_o church_n in_o which_o he_o say_v such_o a_o alteration_n be_v make_v from_o the_o former_a doctrine_n of_o antiquity_n deny_v it_o at_o all_o so_o to_o be_v and_o affirm_v that_o when_o some_o new_a opinion_n appear_v they_o maintain_v and_o vindicate_v it_o as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n their_o proof_n of_o it_o be_v also_o extract_v out_o of_o the_o father_n testimony_n now_o then_o to_o stand_v against_o such_o a_o strong_a stream_n of_o both_o east_n and_o west_n run_v constant_o in_o this_o course_n seem_v to_o catholic_n with_o s._n austin_n very_o unreasonable_a similiter_fw-la etiam_fw-la say_v he_o epist_n 118._o januario_n siquid_fw-la horum_fw-la tota_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequentat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o hinc_fw-la quin_fw-la ita_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la and_o graeci_fw-la omnes_fw-la say_v bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a church_n adorant_a christum_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n et_fw-la quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la sect_n 28_o v._n last_o beside_o this_o great_a body_n catholic_n have_v since_o luther_n time_n in_o the_o reformation_n no_o small_a number_n of_o protestant_n i_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v the_o genuine_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n proceed_v thus_o far_o as_o to_o confess_v both_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o adoration_n of_o it_o as_o present_v there_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o it_o to_o each_o worthy_a receiver_n though_o not_o to_o the_o element_n and_o hooker_n if_o he_o mistake_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o his_o time_n say_v eccles_n pol._n l._n 5._o 5._o 67._o wherefore_o shall_v the_o world_n continue_v still_o distract_v and_o rend_v with_o so_o many_o manifold_a contention_n when_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o controversy_n save_v only_o about_o the_o subject_n where_o christ_n be_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n rest_v doubtful_a in_o this_o but_o whither_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v christ_n be_v whole_a within_o man_n only_o or_o else_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v also_o external_o seat_v in_o the_o very_a consecrate_a element_n themselves_o so_o that_o if_o hooker_n and_o his_o party_n be_v in_o it_o he_o right_v catholic_n do_v not_o mistake_v christ_n body_n as_o present_v in_o a_o place_n where_o it_o be_v not_o but_o only_o in_o think_v it_o in_o that_o present_a to_o one_o thing_n the_o element_n when_o it_o be_v so_o only_o to_o another_o the_o receiver_n of_o they_o but_o then_o the_o same_o catholic_n have_v another_o half_n of_o the_o reformation_n viz._n all_o the_o lutheran_n protestant_n that_o affirm_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n christ_n body_n present_v also_o to_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n and_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n also_o epilog_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o much_o for_o this_o