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A85045 A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1658 (1658) Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619 279,090 362

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guilt_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o judgement_n viz._n eat_v and_o drink_v damnation_n to_o ourselves_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 26_o 27_o 28_o 29_o the_o receive_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o direct_a and_o proper_a mean_n obj._n of_o edification_n therefore_o the_o deny_v of_o it_o be_v at_o best_a but_o accident_o and_o indirect_o so_o true_o to_o such_o as_o be_v worthy_a i._n e._n such_o as_o god_n have_v command_v to_o communicate_v in_o it_o the_o sacrament_n be_v direct_o and_o proper_o a_o mean_n of_o their_o edification_n yea_o so_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o and_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n it_o be_v ordain_v of_o god_n for_o edification_n but_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o all_o not_o to_o heathen_n without_o or_o those_o within_o that_o have_v no_o right_n in_o it_o and_o who_o god_n forbid_v to_o meddle_v with_o it_o the_o sacrament_n
ordinance_n for_o if_o so_o then_o 1._o the_o passeover_n be_v forbid_v also_o 2._o then_o other_o ordinance_n be_v it_o seem_v but_o conditional_o oblige_v unto_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n upon_o church-member_n and_o what_o shall_v hinder_v the_o supper_n to_o be_v so_o now_o 2._o offer_v the_o gift_n at_o the_o altar_n be_v command_v by_o christ_n conditional_o or_o mediate_o first_o go_n and_o be_v reconcile_v then_o come_v and_o 24_o mat._n 5._o 23_o 24_o offer_v and_o till_o then_o lie_v down_o thy_o gift_n why_o then_o shall_v the_o command_n to_o receive_v the_o great_a gift_n at_o the_o christian_a gospel-altar_n be_v more_o absolute_a be_v there_o any_o ordinancy_n great_a circumstance_n great_a solemnity_n be_v there_o any_o part_n of_o the_o gospel-worship_n more_o guard_v with_o threaten_n more_o exact_v preparation_n and_o seriousness_n towards_o god_n and_o charity_n to_o our_o brethren_n in_o the_o comer_n thereunto_o than_o this_o of_o the_o supper_n 3._o if_o all_o church-member_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n than_o some_o church-member_n be_v bind_v to_o abstain_v from_o the_o sacrament_n for_o some_o church-member_n be_v forbid_v by_o the_o church_n and_o in_o obedience_n to_o god_n to_o abstain_v from_o the_o sacrament_n 1._o the_o catechumeni_fw-la be_v church-member_n before_o their_o baptism_n otherwise_o they_o shall_v never_o be_v baptize_v because_o none_o but_o church-member_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v none_o but_o foederati_fw-la ought_v to_o be_v signati_fw-la as_o before_o 2._o the_o chatecumeni_fw-la be_v forbid_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o missa_fw-la chatecumenorum_fw-la who_o have_v at_o most_o but_o a_o remote_a or_o mediate_a right_n thereunto_o until_o they_o be_v baptize_v 2._o child_n bear_v and_o baptize_v church-member_n be_v true_o church-member_n yet_o such_o child_n be_v prohibit_v by_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o church_n to_o receive_v this_o sacrament_n until_o they_o be_v arrive_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n which_o all_o our_o adversary_n even_o the_o high_a for_o the_o privilege_n of_o membership_n ready_o consent_v unto_o 3._o excommunicate_a person_n as_o before_o i_o have_v labour_v to_o prove_v be_v yet_o church-member_n yet_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v charge_v by_o the_o church_n not_o to_o receive_v this_o sacrament_n i_o know_v that_o such_o as_o i_o now_o oppose_v do_v usual_o acknowledge_v that_o such_o church-member_n ought_v not_o to_o receive_v but_o then_o let_v they_o bethink_v themselves_o how_o be_v the_o command_n oblige_v all_o church-member_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n a_o absolute_a command_n how_o then_o do_v single_a church-membership_a give_v immediate_a absolute_a and_o actual_a interest_n in_o every_o ordinance_n 4._o to_o person_n of_o more_o moderate_a principle_n i_o may_v instance_n in_o member_n legal_o convict_v of_o scandal_n or_o gross_o ignorant_a and_o therefore_o suspend_v be_v not_o these_o church-member_n again_o be_v not_o these_o command_v by_o the_o church_n to_o abstain_v from_o this_o sacrament_n then_o ought_v they_o not_o to_o abstain_v then_o do_v the_o command_n of_o god_n oblige_v they_o to_o come_v while_o the_o church_n forbid_v they_o then_o be_v not_o their_o suspension_n a_o bar_n to_o their_o actual_a right_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o last_o then_o be_v not_o the_o command_n to_o receive_v conditional_a upon_o church-member_n upon_o a_o supposition_n of_o age_n knowledge_n freedom_n from_o sandal_n suspension_n excommunication_n last_o let_v we_o hear_v the_o church_n do_v not_o both_o the_o practice_n and_o express_v judgement_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a father_n of_o the_o church_n in_o most_o age_n thereof_o testify_v as_o much_o namely_o that_o actual_a communion_n in_o the_o supper_n be_v not_o for_o all_o church-member_n and_o consequent_o the_o command_n oblige_v they_o be_v but_o conditional_a upon_o a_o supposition_n of_o their_o fitness_n 1._o that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n conclude_v it_o wherein_z she_o ethic._n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n let_v no_o unclean_a person_n no_o adulterer_n no_o usurer_n etc._n etc._n offer_v himself_o to_o the_o receive_n of_o this_o sacrament_n if_o any_o be_v such_o a_o one_o i_o require_v he_o by_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o by_o the_o judge_n of_o the_o quick_a and_o dead_a that_o he_o come_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n table_n that_o he_o betray_v not_o the_o son_n of_o god_n bp._n jewel_n of_o the_o sacram_fw-la p._n 279_o chrys_n in_o heb._n 10._o 9_o in_o ethic._n have_v general_o dehort_v and_o doctrinal_o suspend_v such_o from_o the_o supper_n who_o own_o private_a heart_n and_o conscience_n know_v their_o own_o unfitness_n or_o unworthiness_n of_o it_o such_o a_o practice_n as_o this_o can_v possible_o proceed_v from_o no_o other_o principle_n but_o this_o that_o christ_n do_v not_o require_v this_o part_n of_o his_o worship_n from_o such_o unworthy_a hand_n and_o that_o in_o such_o a_o condition_n person_n ought_v not_o to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o if_o christ_n do_v absolute_o loose_v such_o person_n to_o this_o duty_n of_o receive_v and_o that_o to_o the_o church_n knowledge_n how_o can_v the_o church_n without_o sin_n against_o knowledge_n bind_v they_o from_o it_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o contradict_v christ_n in_o his_o word_n and_o to_o rob_v he_o of_o his_o honour_n worship_n and_o sovereignty_n if_o our_o common_a master_n do_v indeed_o absolute_o command_v we_o all_o to_o come_v who_o dare_v forbid_v any_o upon_o the_o most_o glorious_a pretence_n in_o the_o world_n now_o that_o this_o have_v be_v the_o usual_a course_n of_o the_o church_n if_o not_o juridical_o to_o withhold_v from_o the_o sacrament_n such_o as_o be_v scandalous_a which_o anon_o also_o may_v be_v examine_v yet_o doctrinal_o thus_o to_o dissuade_v and_o terrify_v secret_a sinner_n from_o approach_v the_o sacrament_n easy_o appear_v chrysostome_n witness_v for_o the_o greek_a church_n long_o ago_o the_o priest_n say_v he_o admonish_v all_o that_o be_v come_v to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n drive_v away_o the_o unworthy_a but_o invite_v the_o prepare_v and_o that_o with_o a_o loud_a voice_n and_o hand_n lift_v up_o stand_v aloft_o where_o he_o may_v be_v see_v and_o hear_v of_o all_o this_o have_v be_v the_o constant_a practice_n of_o our_o own_o church_n according_a to_o both_o the_o rubric_n in_o the_o common_a prayer_n and_o the_o late_a directory_n the_o common_a prayer_n enjoin_v the_o minister_n to_o dissuade_v all_o such_o prayer_n common_a prayer_n as_o be_v blasphemer_n of_o god_n envious_a or_o guilty_a of_o any_o notorious_a crime_n in_o their_o heart_n to_o abstain_v from_o this_o ordinance_n where_o we_o may_v note_v 1._o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o church_n then_o some_o church-member_n that_o be_v not_o juridical_o censure_v even_o such_o as_o be_v know_v to_o be_v unworthy_a by_o themselves_o alone_o in_o their_o heart_n aught_o to_o abstain_v from_o the_o sacrament_n 2._o therefore_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o church_n then_o the_o command_n on_o the_o people_n to_o receive_v be_v bind_v only_o conditional_o viz._n upon_o a_o supposition_n of_o fitness_n and_o do_v the_o directory_n require_v otherwise_o vid._n page_n 34._o there_o we_o read_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n to_o warn_v directory_n directory_n all_o such_o as_o be_v ignorant_a scandalous_a profane_a or_o that_o live_v in_o any_o sin_n or_o offence_n against_o their_o knowledge_n or_o conscience_n that_o they_o presume_v not_o to_o come_v to_o that_o holy_a table_n where_o also_o we_o may_v note_v that_o the_o person_n to_o be_v thus_o dissuade_v be_v not_o only_o the_o open_o scandalous_a but_o such_o wicked_a person_n as_o be_v know_v to_o be_v such_o by_o their_o own_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n alone_o 2._o these_o be_v to_o be_v warn_v away_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n which_o who_o dare_v presume_v to_o do_v that_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o such_o person_n ought_v not_o to_o receive_v 3._o therefore_o our_o director_n judge_v that_o the_o will_n or_o command_v of_o christ_n our_o master_n be_v not_o that_o such_o church-member_n as_o be_v thus_o unworthy_a aught_o to_o receive_v but_o rather_o the_o contrary_n yea_o this_o be_v general_o grant_v to_o we_o even_o by_o those_o that_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o well_o as_o those_o that_o deny_v we_o the_o power_n of_o juridical_a suspension_n yea_o this_o be_v grant_v and_o forcible_o urge_v by_o some_o that_o as_o earnest_o plead_v that_o the_o command_n do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o be_v inconditional_a and_o absolute_a which_o i_o crave_v leave_n to_o say_v be_v a_o contradiction_n for_o if_o the_o command_n do_v this_o etc._n etc._n be_v absolute_a either_o upon_o the_o administrator_n or_o upon_o the_o people_n how_o then_o be_v the_o aministrator_n to_o warn_v any_o of_o
savin●_n qualification_n in_o themselves_o how_o few_o of_o god_n truth-humbled_n and_o save_o qualify_a people_n will_v dare_v to_o come_v do_v they_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v thorough_o convince_v of_o such_o a_o principle_n that_o they_o that_o can_v certain_o conclude_v that_o their_o grace_n be_v save_v may_v not_o encourage_v themselves_o to_o receive_v but_o aught_o to_o abstain_v and_o who_o will_v press_v with_o the_o great_a confidence_n and_o in_o the_o great_a number_n to_o this_o holy_a table_n but_o such_o as_o deceive_v themselves_o as_o well_o as_o other_o by_o presumption_n and_o self-conceitedness_n 3._o because_o if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o none_o but_o such_o as_o can_v evidence_n the_o truth_n of_o their_o grace_n to_o their_o own_o satisfaction_n may_v come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n the_o sacrament_n will_v seem_v to_o agree_v rather_o with_o the_o oeconomy_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o church-triumphant_a where_o there_o be_v grace_n without_o sin_n spirit_n without_o flesh_n assurance_n without_o doubt_v then_o with_o the_o frail_a sinful_a tempt_a doubt_v estate_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o trouble_a and_o militant_a church_n on_o earth_n 4._o yea_o methinks_v the_o text_n itself_o with_o it_o be_v context_n be_v too_o evident_a to_o the_o contrary_a to_o bear_v much_o gainsaying_n the_o text_n be_v give_v as_o a_o mean_n whereby_o we_o may_v prevent_v the_o sin_n v._n 27._o of_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o which_o it_o stand_v knit_v by_o the_o particle_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o in_o the_o text_n and_o the_o judgement_n ver_fw-la 29._o 30._o of_o sickness_n weakness_n death_n which_o many_o have_v suffer_v before_o for_o want_v of_o this_o due_a self-examination_n now_o in_o v._o 31._o the_o apostle_n give_v his_o reason_n why_o self-examination_n must_v needs_o prevent_v this_o sin_n and_o punishment_n because_o he_o that_o judge_v himself_o shall_v not_o be_v judge_v of_o the_o lord_n or_o in_o his_o own_o word_n for_o if_o we_o judge_v ourselves_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v judge_v i._n e._n of_o the_o lord_n as_o unworthy_a receiver_n be_v and_o consequent_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v judge_v of_o the_o lord_n to_o be_v unworthy_a receiver_n then_o 1._o here_o we_o may_v easy_o note_v that_o such_o examination_n as_o issue_n in_o self-judging_a have_v the_o promise_n of_o not_o be_v judge_v of_o the_o lord_n for_o unworthy_a receive_n 2._o then_o where_o man_n attain_v to_o this_o effect_n of_o self-examination_n as_o to_o judge_v themselves_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v deal_v with_o by_o god_n as_o unworthy_a receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 3._o then_o it_o follow_v that_o such_o as_o do_v in_o examine_v themselves_o judge_v themselves_o may_v come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n without_o fear_n of_o unworthy_a receive_n yea_o be_v here_o invite_v yea_o command_v to_o come_v so_o let_v he_o eat_v etc._n etc._n 4._o then_o it_o seem_v that_o our_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a cause_n of_o self-judging_a be_v the_o object_n of_o self-examining_a rather_o than_o our_o grace_n so_o that_o if_o we_o can_v but_o find_v out_o our_o sin_n and_o humble_v ourselves_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o they_o and_o judge_v ourselves_o for_o they_o we_o may_v warrantable_o come_v to_o partake_v of_o this_o sacrament_n though_o we_o can_v discover_v our_o grace_n 5._o then_o unless_o self-judging_a be_v self-acquitting_a or_o self-condemning_a be_v self-approving_a self-justifying_a a_o person_n may_v warrantable_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n without_o the_o discovery_n of_o save_a grace_n in_o his_o self-examining_a the_o sum_n be_v will_v a_o man_n escape_v the_o sin_n and_o judgement_n of_o unworthy_a receive_n let_v he_o so_o far_o examine_v himself_o as_o to_o see_v his_o sin_n and_o judge_n sentence_n and_o condemn_v himself_o for_o the_o same_o for_o if_o we_o judge_v ourselves_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v judge_v last_o this_o be_v excellent_o note_v and_o judicious_o state_v as_o well_o as_o confirm_v by_o the_o assembly_n large_a catechism_n with_o who_o word_n i_o shall_v here_o conclude_v one_o say_v they_o who_o doubt_v of_o his_o be_v in_o christ_n or_o of_o his_o due_a preparation_n to_o the_o sacrament_n may_v have_v interest_n in_o christ_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o assure_v thereof_o and_o in_o god_n account_n have_v it_o if_o he_o be_v due_o affect_v with_o the_o apprehension_n of_o the_o want_n of_o it_o and_o unfeigned_o desire_v to_o be_v find_v in_o christ_n and_o to_o depart_v from_o iniquity_n in_o which_o case_n because_o promise_n be_v make_v and_o this_o sacrament_n be_v appoint_v for_o the_o relief_n even_o of_o weak_a and_o doubt_a christian_n he_o be_v to_o bewail_v his_o unnbelife_n and_o labour_n to_o have_v his_o doubt_n resolve_v and_o so_o do_v he_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n that_o he_o may_v be_v further_o strengthen_v p._n 141._o chap._n xxxviii_o the_o term_n of_o 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