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many thousands that are called christians pray at this day how desirous they are of all the worldly blessinges before heauenly and spirituall because they are vnregenerated and worldlyminded Vnto whome all thinges which they possesse are vncleane and cursed You haue hearde also who are those that feare God and not loue him euen suche I say that doth not knowe howe to honour God not how to serue him nor when they commit spirituall Idolatrie nor whē they do abuse gods holy name nor when they prophane or abuse the Lordes day neyther yet knowe the great difference betwéene the first table and the seconde that is they knowe not holynesse from righteousnesse I saye gods right from mans weakenesse that is a true fayth frō mans workes which are corrupt actiue from profound passiue righteousnesse which is as great difference as is betwéene gods almighty maiestie and mans weake imbessilitie such I say that neyther knowe the articles of their fayth nor vnderstande what true beléefe is neyther yet knowe what prayer is nor do knowe howe to pray neyther yet know what a Sacrament is yet dare presume to saye that they are saued onely because they are baptised yet do lyue worse th●n Infidells yea dare presume to receyue the holy communion yet violate pollute the seales therof these are those which are a sléep yea dead yet aliue these are papistes Atheistes Epicures Earnall Protestants and all those wise wordly wisards whose kitching is their church and belly their God and all their glory euerlasting shame and confusion Oh Lorde reclayme them if it be thy will with thy loud cal or lure the preaching of thy Gospel that they may be brought into the tentes of Sem being yet rammish haughtie haggerdes descended from the vncleāe cage of Iaphet as some learned affirme the elder brother of Sem. Graunt this O God for Christes sake our onely Lorde and sauiour An other question of the sonne ●7 Father I haue heard you say manye times when you haue reproued manye that sweare by their fayth you haue sayd that they were as good sweare by the Trinitie the father the sonne and the holy Ghost Howe can that be doo wée sweare by them when we sweare by our fayth The fathers aunswere Yea is not your faith a stedfast beléefe in God the father the sonne and the holy Ghost And is it not the whole somm of our beliefe which we daylie confesse when we say I beléeue in God the father almightie and in Iesus Christ his onely sonne our Lorde and the holye Ghost c. Do you not then sweare by the Trinitie when you sweare by your beléefe whiche is the verye Christians fayth and is not your fayth a sure hope hold and confidence on and in the father the sonne and the holy Ghost by and through the merits and passion of christ Iesus with a sirme beléefe true and pure vnderstanding of his holy worde and Sacramentes vnto life euerlasting The wife and sonnes aunswere with an other Question Yes verily and so we now confesse and are fully resolued but nowe we praye you let vs vnderstand the sence or meaning of a Sacrament and what it is The fathers aunswere or difinition A Sacrament is when the holy word of God is ioyned with an element as in Baptisme the word is ioyned with the element water and in the Lordes supper the word is ioyned with elementes bread and wine the whith elementes and word ioyned together doth make the definition of a Sacrament and the meaning of a Sacrament is a true and visible signe of an inuisible grace that is the .3 Elements to be séene as the very water bread and wine is veryly present in our sight euen so that inuisible grace working in our harts by the spirite and power of God by faith althings necessary for our saluatiō by through Iesus Christ and they are also sure seales of the certaintie of our fayth The sonnes .19 Question We pray you sir whether do the Sacraments of them selues giue grace to the faithful receyuers or no We praye you certifie vs or ought we to worship them as God The fathers aunswere They neyther of them selues nor in them selues doth include or giue anye grace for it is the onely gift and worke of the holy Ghost neyther are they to be worshipped as God but we ought to eleuate or lift vp our hartes vnto Iesus Christ who is in heauen our onelye mediator and aduocate vnto God our father for vs and that onely by fayth who is the onely author of these sacramentes commaunding so often as we vse them to do it in the remēbrance of his last comming when we shall receiue it in full ioy with him in his euerlasting kingdome yet they are holy signes seales of our fayth as it were by an instrument God doth worke and seale grace in our harts only by the hande of fayth neither yet are they bare naked signes but grace is truely presented to our fayth when and so often as we receiue the same with a firme fayth constant beléefe in the only merites of christe Iesus our onely Lord and Sauiour The .20 Question We pray you sir is there any more sacraments then two for I haue heard some say there are fiue some affirme there are seuen but we are taught in our church there are but only two The fathers aunswere Howe many soeuer the pestilent papistes haue in their sinfull sinagogue whether they haue fiue seuen or seuen hundred that is nothing to vs for euery seremoniall thing or seremony or any thyng els whiche they thinke is holye in theyr Holye Holie Church or sinnagogue must vpon payne of the Popes cursse be holy adorned and worshipped for it is with them a sacrament or as great yea the very dust and swéeping of their Sinagogue but in Christes holye Churche there is nor neuer was more then two th one is Baptisme the other is the Lords Supper for by the first we are receyued into Christes Church and by the other we are nourished by fayth in our soules into life euerlasting and also remember Christes death vntill hée come agayne to be our ioyfull iudge The sonnes 21. Question We pray you sir certifie vs more plainly what is the true sence substance and meaning of Baptisme The fathers Aunswere Baptisme is the holy sacrament of our regeneration or newe birth vniting and incorporating of vs vnto the body of Christ being therby made a member of his Church by which Sacrament we are purged and washed from al our sinnes for as the water washeth awaye all our filthinesse of the bodie euen so by fayth the blood of Christ sprinckled on our soules by the hand of faith washeth away all our sinnes yea and also all our paynes due vnto the same so being made members of Christes owne body we are partakers of all the benefites and blessinges of Christ our elder brother and head if we
daylie die vnto sinne lyue vnto righteousnesse which is called mortification of life for except we be regenerated into a spirituall body we shall neuer be partakers of christes naturall body and then voyde of all the benefites of Christes passion which is the som and effect of all our fayth sacramonts and religion For to be worldly minded is death euerlasting but to be spiritually minded is life euerlasting sayth S. Paul vnto the which god graunt vs for his mercy sake The sonnes .22 Question I pray you sir is there any such necessitie in Baptising young children that is if they die before they be baptised that they are damned as some affirme for the scripture savth except ye be Baptised ye cannot be saued The fathers aunswere Neyther is saluation tyed vnto these that are baptised nor yet damnation vnto such as are vnbaptised no more then they were all saued that were circumcised and all damned that were vncircomcised for then what had become of all the children that dyed in the wildernesse and all the women Iewes and all the Gentiles that neuer had circumcision But that is all Papistes religion popish womens opinion For. S. paul saith that neyther circumcision nor vncircumcision doth preuaile any thing but a new creature for euery faythfull christian doth beléeue that his childe is sanctified in the mothers wombe if eyther of them be faythfull and also saued frō euerlasting damnation by the fayth of their Parents if eyther of them be faythfull Christians or els our séede wers vncleane but if both Father and Mother are infidelles or Papistes then I doubt what their childrē are Because S. paul so affirmeth to the Corrinthians in his first Epistle the .7 Chapter and the .14 verse But because we are the children of wrath by Adams corruption vnto whom the promise of gods mercy and fauour reacheth vnto lyfe euerlasting we therefore bring our children to be Baptised in the same fayth that we protest because they are the seales of our fayth An other Question or obiection 23. Because you said before that the infidells and papists childrē are not christians borne as you proued by S. Paules words in the .7 Chap. to the Cor. and 14. ver 1. Epistle we pray you are Papistes no better then infidels are they not Christians The aunswere to the obiection Although they are borne in christendome yet are they not therefore true christians no more then they are al true English men that are borne in Englād there should not be so many Mongrills neyther yet so many vnnatural rebels as the trayterous vile Iesuites filthy papistes that are borne in Englande neyther loueth God Christ Prince nor yet their owne natiue cuntrie of which sorte I woulde there were not so many in this land But to our purpose and proofe is it possible for such to be Christians that are gods vtter enimies Is it possible for him to be a christian that denyeth Christes powes to be sufficiēt for our saluation but the pestilent Papistes and Traytors Iesuites denieth and teacheth that fayth onely in Christes merites is not sufficient for our saluation therefore it is not possible that any such Papistes can be christians And except their righteousnesse excéede the righteousnesse of the scribes and Pharisies they shall neuer come where Christes kingdome is the scribs and pharisies beléeued that because they were Abrahams children and circumcised therfore they were saued And the Papists belefe is because they haue left in them some féede of grace to doo good workes by it they deserue saluation because they are Baptised and so they shall with the vnbeléeuing Iewes that were circumcised therfore good children of all people beware the Papists The sonnes .24 Question I pray you good father certifie vs also of the holy communion and as you haue don of Baptisme the true sence effect thereof The fathers aunswere This Sacrament is the signe seale and pledge of our saluation redemption which Christs our sauiour hath left vs to remember his precious death and passion and to increase our fayth vntyll he come agayne to be our ioyfull iudge and so remember that by the mercifull eating and drinking of Christes very body and blood in the substance of bread and wine by a firme fayth we are surely partakers of all the benefites and blessinges of Christes death and passion for as the material bread doth comforte our hartes and the naturall wine doth reuiue our spirites and sences euen so the spirituall eating of Christes bodie the true bread of life doth comforte our spirituall bodies the spiritual drinkeing of his precious blood shed for vs on the crosse doth reuiue and reioyce all our spirituall sences and powers of the soule vnto life euerlasting if we lift vp our hartes and mindes vnto Christe which is in heauen and with al thanks féede on him by fayth This is the true and right receyuing of the Lordes supper and the true sence and meaning in which we must remember Christes death and passion vntil he come againe to be our ioyfull iudge The sonnes 25. Question I pray you sir how must we frame our selues for to receyue this holy sacrament faithfully and worthily The fathers Aunswere First we must remember the gréeuousnesse of our sinnes from the verie bottome of our hartes and vnfaynedly detest them and euer after frame and force our selues vnto a godly vertuous and sober life secondly we must trye and examine our selues whether we haue a true firme and a constant fayth on and in the promises of Christe Iesus or no And thirdly we must humbly louingly and brotherly yea faithfully reconcile our selues vnto suche as in any kind we haue offended euen vnto our enimies and so hauing left our gyft on the alter we may then come boldly offer our gyft in Christian loue charitie with out the which we must not dare presume to receyue the holy communion this is the best way that I know howe to frame our selues to receyue this holy sacrament The sonnes .26 Question I pray you sir doth all men that receyue this sacrament receiue the spirituall graces alike The fathers aunswere As in Baptisme none but the faithfull doth receyue the forgiuenesse of sinnes euen so none in the Lords supper are partakers of the benefites and graces of Christ but such as receyue him with a true and vnfayned fayth as for the faith les they receiue not the thing finished but a bare sacrament vnto their vtter destruction From the which the almightie of his mercy deliuer vs for euer The sonnes .27 Question I pray you good father let me aske you one question more which is this we reade in the .14 Psal of Dauid these words there is saith the prophet no good man no not one and in his .37 psal he playnely expresseth both a iust a wicked mā I pray you good father make those scriptures agree that I may be resolued The fathers aunswere My sonne marke this